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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:18:00 -
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CB Games magazine reporter makes the following statement:
"...according to mmogchart.com, EVE Online is actually one of the least popular MMORPGs around with CCP, EVE's developer/publisher, estimating over 170,000 active members. While that number appears to be growing steadily, compare it to the massively multiplayer monolith that is World of Warcraft."
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:20:00 -
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Least popular?
They need a hit on the head with a clue-by-four so that they learn what "least popular" MMORPG means.
EVE Online is one of the top 10-15 out of thousands.
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EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! |
Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:21:00 -
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Quick! To the Flamemobile! We cannot let such heresy stand! 
 Originally by: David Hackworth
ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:22:00 -
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Quantity != Quality
I'll take an indepth game like EVE above your "ME have club! ME smash skulls!" type of game any day.
The only thing WoW has going for it is publicity and hype. The game offer nothing but a grind (I've tried it).
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Caios
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Caios on 27/06/2007 19:21:06
in before the frenzied WoW-bashing EDIT: damnit!
at any rate, population is a terrible judge of MMO quality. look at runescape.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Caios
at any rate, population is a terrible judge of MMO quality. look at runescape.
Oh god 
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
Quantity != Quality
I'll take an indepth game like EVE above your "ME have club! ME smash skulls!" type of game any day.
The only thing WoW has going for it is publicity and hype. The game offer nothing but a grind (I've tried it).
Add that as a comment, it would be a GREAT one.
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Lady Natacha
Minmatar
Water and Power
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:24:00 -
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It didn't seem that unfavorable. "least popular" is quite a stretch though.. Maybe the author meant to say that EVE's subscription numbers simply pale in comparison to WoW.
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Caios
at any rate, population is a terrible judge of MMO quality. look at runescape.
My 8 year old would sooooo PK you for saying that. 
Bastage, Inc.
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente
Gunfleet Logistics
Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:27:00 -
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Its not CCP's fault every 12-15 year old with grandmas's creditcard likes magic and horseriding over the emotional torment that is EvE online. If those kids played EvE Online, there would be a huge jump in suicides and emotional trauma in children. Let the children play WoW......the men (and internet chicks who are really guys) can play EvE.
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Lady Natacha
Minmatar
Water and Power
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
Its not CCP's fault every 12-15 year old with grandmas's creditcard likes magic and horseriding over the emotional torment that is EvE online. If those kids played EvE Online, there would be a huge jump in suicides and emotional trauma in children. Let the children play WoW......the men (and internet chicks who are really guys) can play EvE.
yeah, letting the kids play Wow is helping...
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:31:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 27/06/2007 19:30:06
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Caios
at any rate, population is a terrible judge of MMO quality. look at runescape.
Oh god
But runescape rocks \o/
EDIT: SELLING RUNE FULL PRESS 666 TO BUY
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Natacha
It didn't seem that unfavorable. "least popular" is quite a stretch though.. Maybe the author meant to say that EVE's subscription numbers simply pale in comparison to WoW.
Nope he plays wow and hates eve.. You can tell by this line..
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Known as the "EVE Interstellar Bank Scam," a single player scammed others into investing in ISK until he had over 700 billion ISK. Sounds kinda ******** to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
Everyone out of the game I know that I told that story too was like: "Whoaa.. You can do *that* in Eve? Cool! My game has artificial limits to what I can do..  " 
Originally by: David Hackworth
ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Sorum Daemoth
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sorum Daemoth on 27/06/2007 19:34:43
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Sorum Daemoth
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
Its not CCP's fault every 12-15 year old with grandmas's creditcard likes magic and horseriding over the emotional torment that is EvE online. If those kids played EvE Online, there would be a huge jump in suicides and emotional trauma in children. Let the children play WoW......the men (and internet chicks who are really guys) can play EvE.
ROFL!!
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Sli'co Scoser
Gallente
World Order
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:38:00 -
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American Idol has millions more viewers than Battlestar Galactica too, but having more viewers doesn't make me any more interested in watching ugly skanks yodel to a national audience.
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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Edited by: Nyphur on 27/06/2007 19:30:06
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Caios
at any rate, population is a terrible judge of MMO quality. look at runescape.
Oh god
But runescape rocks \o/
EDIT: SELLING RUNE FULL PRESS 666 TO BUY
Its more like, "Flash1:Blue:SELLING FULL RUNE PRESS 666LOL IM COOL@@@@@@@@@@@"
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Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 27/06/2007 19:51:28
1. World of Warcraft, released 2004 - 8.5 million subscribers.
2. Habbo Hotel, released 2000 - 7.5 million active users.
3. RuneScape, released 2001 - 5 million active users.
4. Club Penguin, released 2006 - 4 million active users.
5. Webkinz, released 2005 - 3.8 million active users.
6. Gaia Online, released 2003 - 2 million active users.
7. Guild Wars, released 2005 - 2 million active users.
8. Puzzle Pirates, released 2003 - 1.5 million active users.
9. Lineage I/II, released 1998 - 1 million subscribers.
10. Second Life, released 2003 - 500,000 active users.
Notice this list includes Habo Hotel...
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!! 
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Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 27/06/2007 19:51:28
1. World of Warcraft, released 2004 - 8.5 million subscribers.
2. Habbo Hotel, released 2000 - 7.5 million active users.
3. RuneScape, released 2001 - 5 million active users.
4. Club Penguin, released 2006 - 4 million active users.
5. Webkinz, released 2005 - 3.8 million active users.
6. Gaia Online, released 2003 - 2 million active users.
7. Guild Wars, released 2005 - 2 million active users.
8. Puzzle Pirates, released 2003 - 1.5 million active users.
9. Lineage I/II, released 1998 - 1 million subscribers.
10. Second Life, released 2003 - 500,000 active users.
Notice this list includes Habo Hotel...
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
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Caios
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
Hey, at least our pool's open.
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Caios
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
Hey, at least our pool's open.
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Veng3ance
Illicit Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:57:00 -
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I think the best part is he thinks WOW could have a news network.
What would you report on? Nothing is player driven.
"XXX Guild completes instance 10,000 times!"
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Veng3ance
Illicit Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.27 19:57:00 -
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I think the best part is he thinks WOW could have a news network.
What would you report on? Nothing is player driven.
"XXX Guild completes instance 10,000 times!"
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Richard Aiel
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:04:00 -
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about eve tv:
With what appears to be a production budget less than "Saul of the Mole Men,"
and they want us to PAY for this?!
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And just to give you an idea of how deep the game can go, one of the biggest scandals in the world of EVE involved a player walking away with billions of Interstellar Kredits (EVE's in-game currency). Known as the "EVE Interstellar Bank Scam," a single player scammed others into investing in ISK until he had over 700 billion ISK. Sounds kinda ******** to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
lol I thought journalists were supposed to be impartial...
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it makes one wonder, just how far off is a 24-hour World of Warcraft news channel?
oh god no...
Irony:
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Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
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Judas Lonestar
Ganja Labs
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
Quantity != Quality
I'll take an indepth game like EVE above your "ME have club! ME smash skulls!" type of game any day.
The only thing WoW has going for it is publicity and hype. The game offer nothing but a grind (I've tried it).
Every game is a grind at its basic level. The difference is whether you enjoy it or not. Thats one nice thing with Eve. If you get tired of the grind, find a new way to do it. You can PVP (if your good), you can run missions, you can be a trader, a miner, a looter, an inventer etc etc etc.
While Eve certainly has its share of the grind, I dont know of any other MMO that has as many different types of grind as Eve does.
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Richard Aiel
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:04:00 -
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Quote:
about eve tv:
With what appears to be a production budget less than "Saul of the Mole Men,"
and they want us to PAY for this?!
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And just to give you an idea of how deep the game can go, one of the biggest scandals in the world of EVE involved a player walking away with billions of Interstellar Kredits (EVE's in-game currency). Known as the "EVE Interstellar Bank Scam," a single player scammed others into investing in ISK until he had over 700 billion ISK. Sounds kinda ******** to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
lol I thought journalists were supposed to be impartial...
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it makes one wonder, just how far off is a 24-hour World of Warcraft news channel?
oh god no...
Irony:
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true |
Judas Lonestar
Ganja Labs
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
Quantity != Quality
I'll take an indepth game like EVE above your "ME have club! ME smash skulls!" type of game any day.
The only thing WoW has going for it is publicity and hype. The game offer nothing but a grind (I've tried it).
Every game is a grind at its basic level. The difference is whether you enjoy it or not. Thats one nice thing with Eve. If you get tired of the grind, find a new way to do it. You can PVP (if your good), you can run missions, you can be a trader, a miner, a looter, an inventer etc etc etc.
While Eve certainly has its share of the grind, I dont know of any other MMO that has as many different types of grind as Eve does.
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:05:00 -
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People who think "least popular" is an insult need to look up the word popular.
Add the fact that the article is baised from the outset (specifically linking Jalipo to beheadings) and that the author has all the journalistic talent of my hamster, and I think we can sleep soundly.
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:05:00 -
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People who think "least popular" is an insult need to look up the word popular.
Add the fact that the article is baised from the outset (specifically linking Jalipo to beheadings) and that the author has all the journalistic talent of my hamster, and I think we can sleep soundly.
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Malcanis
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Target
CB Games magazine reporter makes the following statement:
"...according to mmogchart.com, EVE Online is actually one of the least popular MMORPGs around with CCP, EVE's developer/publisher, estimating over 170,000 active members. While that number appears to be growing steadily, compare it to the massively multiplayer monolith that is World of Warcraft."
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That article was awful. I'd expect - and get - better writing in the Sunday Sport.
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Samuel Freedom
Minmatar
Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:35:00 -
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Habbo Hotel never heard of it 
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:40:00 -
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I think the fact that EVETV exists and WoWTV doesn't pretty much tells you everything you need to know.
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Plasmatique
Caldari
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:48:00 -
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The articles author compared eve to all mmorpgs with 120,000+ subscribers or more, not all mmorpgs. Journalism at its best
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:56:00 -
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I left them a comment:
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Juxtaposing "World Of Warcraft" against "EVE Online" is like comparing the mental abilities of Homer Simpson against those of Ezra Pound.
Average WOW player is used to instant gratification game, where his or her actions have absolutely zero consequence in the grand scheme of things. As opposed to EVE, where the actions of a player can, and do have profound effects on the community.
Also, imagine the grand WOW servers, with what, 5-6, fine, lets be generous, 9 thousand players? And one, single, unbroken, seamless, universe of EVE, where you can find about 15 to 25 thousand players - AT ANY GIVEN TIME 23/7. And, to top it all off, players in EVE can interact with other 100,000 users by means of single market and compete for resources against them as well.
If you really want to know things about EVE, try playing for more than 7 days. As a mater of fact, no one will grasp the true vastness and amazing depth of this game unless they spent a good few months playing.
Nothing is safe in EVE, nothing is sacred, it is a brutal environment where you have to be constantly on alert. Technically you do not even have to PVP, you can fight other players by becoming a super industrialist or trader - then PVP "market" style.
Lets see, open ended universe, compete against and with other players, complex political system, complex - player driven - market system, no 'end-game', a team of developers (who despite what some people say) truly care about the game and it's community, yep, I agree, EVE is definitely not WOW - I must say, thank GOD for small favors.
Q: Is EVE Online an enjoyable experience for someone with an attention span of a Marmoset Monkey?
A: Nope, it is not.
Q: Is EVE Online an enjoyable experience for someone who is patient, pays attention to detail, is mature, and is capable to suffer significant losses and persevere against them?
A: Yes, definitely, EVE requires time. It is extremely immersive, and will most likely become a good hobby, if you can handle it.
I quit EVE three times, always had to take a break for one reason or another, and I always came back. It is still the best bloody MMORPG out there - at least until someone comes up with a better and more immersive and comprehensive world. When that happens, I will go there, but I would not hold my breath on this happening anytime soon.
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Naran Darkmood
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:57:00 -
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be thankful that guy writes on compuer games.
If he wrote about politics, he might cause wars!
(Yes, I know, any editor with have a brain would not publish anything like that...)
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
I thought there would be american isk farmers over on eve china to be honest
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Naran Darkmood
be thankful that guy writes on compuer games.
If he wrote about politics, he might cause wars!
(Yes, I know, any editor with have a brain would not publish anything like that...)
well yeah, but at least then he'd probebly get assassinated and we'd never have to listen to him again.
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:05:00 -
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Sounds kinda reta_rded to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
Any article that uses the word reta_rded kinda losses credibility 
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:08:00 -
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eVe is not that unpopular. There are 200k active accounts. An unpopular MMO is a dead MMO.
eVe is still active.
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Runix Nightwalker
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Veng3ance
I think the best part is he thinks WOW could have a news network.
What would you report on? Nothing is player driven.
"XXX Guild completes instance 10,000 times!"
" . . . and in our headline story, Chucknorrislol and four Guild-mates from 'Phear' completed Kharazan for the forty-seventh time; the instance run took over an hour longer than expected, and an argument broke out when the Warrior rolled 'Need' on a set of Leather Bracers. When asked for comment, a member of rival Guild 'SHARKSWIHTLAZERSPEWPEWPEW' said 'lol we wer done with kara monhts ago newbs'; Guild 'Phear' had no comment."
" . . . and now to war between the Alliance and the Horde. The Alliance is still in control of Astranaar, while the Horde has retained control of Splintertree Post; the Alliance still has control of Southshore, and the Horde . . . still has control of Tarren Mill."
But given the World of Warcraft crowd, I actually think that there would be people who would watch such a thing.
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Lux Simian
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:01:00 -
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If the journalist in question can't handle Eve he should go back to WoW... Wait what!!
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Dragonrazor
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:38:00 -
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To be brutally honest, EVE is just not a game we can expect a lot of people to like and play.
CCP has said it oodles of times in the past, and I hope they still chant it as their mantra when the devs work on it and the producers produce it and the big wigs wig out over it.
This ideal was/is:
EVE is a niche game, it's longevity and success relies on exploiting a smaller but altogether untapped niche.
We the average EVE lover, love EVE because it's the best thing going that does what it does.
In my opinion, I think it's like comparing apples to oranges when you compare the success of WOW to EVE.
Of COURSE one game will have more or less subscribers because plainly, the games deal with not only two completely different game styles, but universe concepts.
Now comparing games like DDO, LOTRO and WOW makes sense... Compairing EVE and Earth and Beyawnd made sense in the past... Even compairing EVE to SWG, and SWG to WOW makes sense in some ways.
But WOW and EVE have nothing in common except both are called MMO's.
I think CCP IS a success, on a par with blizzard because of it's success at monopolizing and catering to a niche in the market that has no competition and despite this still puts out a game that IMHO outshines those that DO have competition.
EVE is a game the gaming world NEEDS.
WOW isn't a game the world needs, as there will always be an EQ, or LOTRO, or DDO.
TBH my only hope for the fantasy setting MMO is in the Conan MMO due out sooner or later.
I may take time off to play that one if it delivers.
But I'm not expecting much.
Lastly, EVE DOES appeal mostly to people in their late 20's and over. People with more refined and more mature tastes and interests.
People in my age group (30 somethings) have more interest in MMO's that can be real escapes, places we can lead alternate lives.
TBh, I also consider EVE to be the CLOSEST thing to true virtual reality that we have...
All it's missing is a pair of VR gloves and VR goggles and a pod filled with goo that makes us feel weightless.
And that could be made if you had the bucks to burn on such a custom crafted peripheral.
What other game actually has real consequences? Real world effecting goals and events?
What other game allows a person to metagame their way to power and wealth as well as someone who grinds missions?
Not many...
EVE is a success... End of story.
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 27/06/2007 19:51:28
1. World of Warcraft, released 2004 - 8.5 million subscribers.
2. Habbo Hotel, released 2000 - 7.5 million active users.
3. RuneScape, released 2001 - 5 million active users.
4. Club Penguin, released 2006 - 4 million active users.
5. Webkinz, released 2005 - 3.8 million active users.
6. Gaia Online, released 2003 - 2 million active users.
7. Guild Wars, released 2005 - 2 million active users.
8. Puzzle Pirates, released 2003 - 1.5 million active users.
9. Lineage I/II, released 1998 - 1 million subscribers.
10. Second Life, released 2003 - 500,000 active users.
Notice this list includes Habo Hotel...
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
This list is also most likely NA based numbers also...
If you were to include world numbers.. I guarentee you.. Lineage 1 and 2 would bypass everythign else on this chart. The koreans are even more fanatical about their MMO's then we are.. Lineage in Korea alone has more subscribers then the top 3 on this list combined
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Easy Tiger
Caldari
Virtual Machines
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:09:00 -
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Sounds kinda ret-arded to anyone not involved in EVE
If this is where you get your gaming news from OP, then just...
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Santa Anna
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Saint Lazarus
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Sounds kinda reta_rded to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
Any article that uses the word reta_rded kinda losses credibility
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emepror
Gallente
Flying Spaghetti Monsterz
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:55:00 -
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MORE RANTS, RANT RANT RANT ON THAT WEBPAGE RANT!!!!!
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Dark Kavar
Caldari
Aionios Diadochi
The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:55:00 -
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Sounds like whoever wrote the article had a bad experience in eve
Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Kavar
Sounds like whoever wrote the article had a bad experience in eve
Well if i found a guy like him i would pass on I would try to give him a "bad experience"
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Cardice Makar
Caldari
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Caios
Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
Hey, at least our pool's open.
Why does it not surprise me at all that someone would say that...
And in other news:
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according to mmogchart.com
Wait... what? Why have I never heard of mmogchart.com? Oh... yeah, the site looks like it's right out of the Ultima-Online Era... [the original]
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:10:00 -
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Talk about clueless. No one would make WoW TV because it is all the same stuff over and over again. WoW is just a traditional video game which happens to be online.
Here's a vastly superior article about why WoW's numbers don't mean squat in the world of MMO's:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/103/13
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:15:00 -
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To be honest, anyone that refers to something in a professional review as being '********' loses all credibility and all of my respect when writing.
I stopped reading in detail after he said 'what the fudge' and stopped reading completely after using the term '********'.
If WoW was on one server with thousands or people in one place at one time, it would be as good as EVE. Until then, EVE has one up on all of it's competitors!
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:23:00 -
[51]
Eve is the Mensa of online gaming.
Not all will qualify for membership
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Erik Amirault
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Erik Amirault on 28/06/2007 01:50:20
I think you guys are confusing your classifications of gamers. You say that Eve appeals to "an older and mature crowd" but from this thread it seems like it attracts "pompous, elitist nerds." Sorry to burst your nerd bubble but Eve is pretty much identical to every other MMORPG at its core: Massive grinds - check; fanboys and haters - check; redundant quests/missions - check; logistics nightmares; and very very few actual roleplayers - check. Play the game you like but this pathetic circle jerk of "your game sucks and my game is better" makes you look pretty sad. If you are going to get butthurt everytime someone calls 'Shadowbane in Space' less popular than traditional Middle Earth fantasy games then you should probably revoke your own posting privileges.
I enjoy playing Eve and I hope it grows but let's not pretend we're better than everyone else because we play spaceship games instead of trolls and night elves.
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Lasakywa
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.28 02:03:00 -
[53]
Just another wow fan boy 
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Girin
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Posted - 2007.06.28 02:42:00 -
[54]
I prefer this article, personally:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=77768
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.28 02:47:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Cardice Makar
Quote:
according to mmogchart.com
Wait... what? Why have I never heard of mmogchart.com? Oh... yeah, the site looks like it's right out of the Ultima-Online Era... [the original]
You've never heard of it? Its become basically the standard site for MMO player population comparisons, though it doesn't seem to have been updated that often lately.
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Reithan
Caldari
LEGI0N
SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 02:58:00 -
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I prefer MMORPG.com, which actually rates MMO's by several statistics, not just subscription base.
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 27/06/2007 19:51:28
1. World of Warcraft, released 2004 - 8.5 million subscribers.
2. Habbo Hotel, released 2000 - 7.5 million active users.
3. RuneScape, released 2001 - 5 million active users.
4. Club Penguin, released 2006 - 4 million active users.
5. Webkinz, released 2005 - 3.8 million active users.
6. Gaia Online, released 2003 - 2 million active users.
7. Guild Wars, released 2005 - 2 million active users.
8. Puzzle Pirates, released 2003 - 1.5 million active users.
9. Lineage I/II, released 1998 - 1 million subscribers.
10. Second Life, released 2003 - 500,000 active users.
Notice this list includes Habo Hotel...
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
This list is also most likely NA based numbers also...
If you were to include world numbers.. I guarentee you.. Lineage 1 and 2 would bypass everythign else on this chart. The koreans are even more fanatical about their MMO's then we are.. Lineage in Korea alone has more subscribers then the top 3 on this list combined
Indeed. 1 in 5 Koreans play Lineage. That's about 10-15 million. Also, Runescape is Korean, GW has its own Korean server and player base. In fact the Koreans routinely win GW tourneys. The list is also missing MapleStory, a MMO with a big player base as well (but nauseatingly kiddie).
All in all western-led media tend to be narrow-visioned, believing alot of stupid things, like WoW being the biggest MMO on Earth, Americans the most pro (I count the Nordics and Koreans as the world's best) and rabid (only Koreans would fill an Olympic-sized stadium to witness a game launch), Iraq had WMDs, etc.
I trialed WoW and EVE. I stopped playing WoW after 10 days. I trialed EVE for 2 days and switched to paid. I'm now 3 weeks into EVE and loving it.
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Judas Lonestar
Ganja Labs
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:14:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Naran Darkmood
be thankful that guy writes on compuer games.
If he wrote about politics, he might cause wars!
(Yes, I know, any editor with have a brain would not publish anything like that...)
Oh he did start a war!
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Lynal
Gallente
Peregrin Avionics
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:29:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Known as the "EVE Interstellar Bank Scam," a single player scammed others into investing in ISK until he had over 700 billion ISK. Sounds kinda ******** to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
ya know... i read that particular part of his little tirade and the hypocrisy really reinforced to me why eve is better than wow. wow fanboys are almost entirely like the person who wrote this.
i just wonder how many times the author got involved in forum flame wars because someone ninja'd a raid drop?
at least the bank scam was a major event that affected thousands of players in a meaningful way... the sort of thing that wow players consider a big deal affects no more than 40 players, and thats only until they run the raid again and the item drops again... which is highly unlikely to take days, weeks or even months, like the losses that some players suffered in the bank scams.
again... biased hypocrisy ftl.
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:36:00 -
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I think why this is such a big discussion across all PC gaming is because we're always looking for the next unique game. I'm sure that havening that many subscribers does mean something...Like the reflection of the next game that company will develop. I mean think about it, WoW grosses in around 1 Billion a year. So that gives them a great advantage over CCP. The next gen of games will be Multi threading and if a majority of your gross income is going to maintaing your game then you have very little doe for future concepts. Such as EvE 2. Wich really should be geared towards a ace combat style of combat. Here is a great link on MMO/RPG
http://www.twitchguru.com/2007/06/19/how_to_revolutionize_the_mmorpg/
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FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:02:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 27/06/2007 19:51:28
1. World of Warcraft, released 2004 - 8.5 million subscribers.
2. Habbo Hotel, released 2000 - 7.5 million active users.
3. RuneScape, released 2001 - 5 million active users.
4. Club Penguin, released 2006 - 4 million active users.
5. Webkinz, released 2005 - 3.8 million active users.
6. Gaia Online, released 2003 - 2 million active users.
7. Guild Wars, released 2005 - 2 million active users.
8. Puzzle Pirates, released 2003 - 1.5 million active users.
9. Lineage I/II, released 1998 - 1 million subscribers.
10. Second Life, released 2003 - 500,000 active users.
Notice this list includes Habo Hotel...
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
Habbo 4tw 
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Natassja Johannessen
Gallente
The Nationalist Fringe
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Posted - 2007.06.28 05:27:00 -
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Keep in mind Blizzard Entertainment have been around since the Amiga days back around the early 90's with many top selling titles throughout the years. Blizzard products have always been top quality, nicely done and presented very well. You cannot compare CCP, a very young company(Founded 1997 with only EVE under their belt) to Blizzard Entertainment.
Seriously, this whole bashing WOW thing grows tiresome and i am sure half of the "mature" EVE players have played Blizzard games back in the day anyway even if they don't like WOW. All the WOW bashing is just human nature i know, similar to how everyone feels the need to constantly bash BOB in EVE because they have become a very large and successful Alliance...yet, like Blizzard ppl forget how long BOB have actually been at this to get where they are.
Now, you are going to flame me for being a WOW fan but know this...I have loads of respect for CCP and what they have achieved with EVE and I am sure it's alot more than they had originally planned themselves. The community has built this game into what it is with the developers...that's the unique thing with EVE and what seperates it from most other MMO's...players have actually help mold this game. EVE still has alot of potential for growth where WOW is what it is and it will eventally fade out...EVE is where i will continue to play for a long time yet and i look forward to the growth of this game.
PS - That review is trash and you can never go on some game reviewers opinion lol, impossible for them to be completely unbiased. Only way to truely form your "own" opinion on a game is to play it yourself.
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Gladia Horusthu
Gallente
Ordo Pondera
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:14:00 -
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Sure, many of us played Blizzard games- I still do.
However, there is a difference between RTS and a dynamic world and open gaming.
Fact is, many of the hard core Eve players don't want to have anything to do with the mainstream, at least in the context of Eve. This is our little salon, where we can sniff disdainfully at the masses outside, secure in the knowledge that not only do we know that Eve is better, but that the ordinary person probably can't even see why we would say that. Our interests lie in other directions than the mainstream.
And of course the mainstream wants in, and we can't keep 'em out, and the mainstream decides to try to repaint the crushed velvet wall coverings with a neutral beige and replace the antique Baroque chairs with loungers from the second hand store to give it that comfy "lived in" feel.
It isn't that Eve players don't appreciate WoW for what it is-- but many of us deny that it can even be compared to Eve. If one "prefers" WoW then they are not the target audience for Eve-- and hence should not be judging it. Unfortunately, that is exactly what happens.
So yeah, our mature crowd tends to be quite elitist. I'm not sure there is any reason that this is a bad thing. It keeps those who don't like the game moving on, as should happen.
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:24:00 -
[64]
off topic but mmogcharts haven't been updated for a year now
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pwnedgato
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.28 07:15:00 -
[65]
Edited by: pwnedgato on 28/06/2007 07:17:45
Whenever I hear how much wow players whine about ninja looting I always get this urge to go play wow get to lvl 70 and then proceed to ninja loot everything in some uber instance and then trash all the items, but I'd commit suicide from all that grinding to reach that lvl not to mention reading local
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Posted - 2007.06.28 07:19:00 -
[66]
Well since a 5 year old kid can play wow of course they are going to have more people play. :P
Nevermind they had a massive base in place to jump to that game since they had the whole world of games out that were popular.
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Gojyu
Gallente
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.06.28 07:30:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Gojyu on 28/06/2007 07:29:30
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
Talk about clueless. No one would make WoW TV because it is all the same stuff over and over again. WoW is just a traditional video game which happens to be online.
Here's a vastly superior article about why WoW's numbers don't mean squat in the world of MMO's:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/103/13
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I find it telling that whilst everyone is up in arms about the bias presented in the original article, this one gets not a comment. The eve community doesn't want media coverage to be presented in a level, objective manner, it simply want it presented in any way that makes eve seem more important
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.06.28 07:44:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Ricdic on 28/06/2007 07:43:25
Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
2. Habbo Hotel, released 2000 - 7.5 million active users.
Thanks a lot. I was intrigued as I had never heard of this before, so I went to the site. I swear I now want to gouge my own eyeballs with a spoon, if not for the pain it would cause knowing there is not yet a braille version of Eve Online.
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Khorian
Gallente
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.28 07:53:00 -
[69]
Divide 8 mill by the number of WoW servers.
And WTF would a WoW show be about? Guild X beat Mob Y as a Serverfirst! when the Mob died, nothing changed in the World of Warcraft, except that it will now die a million more times. And there was a Battle in on of those Battlegrounds. It took 2 hours and everyone in it died about 20 times. When it was done, nothing had changed in the World of Warcraft!
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Barbaro55a
Caldari
Os Lobos
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Posted - 2007.06.28 08:37:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Lady Natacha
Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
Its not CCP's fault every 12-15 year old with grandmas's creditcard likes magic and horseriding over the emotional torment that is EvE online. If those kids played EvE Online, there would be a huge jump in suicides and emotional trauma in children. Let the children play WoW......the men (and internet chicks who are really guys) can play EvE.
yeah, letting the kids play Wow is helping...
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Amarr
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.06.28 08:41:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Caios
Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
God I wish Eve could be as good as Habo Hotel!!!!!
Hey, at least our pool's open.
Pool's closed due to lag, unfortunately.
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Posted - 2007.06.28 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: Morghana Seputila on 28/06/2007 08:59:12
Edited by: Morghana Seputila on 28/06/2007 08:58:33
least popular = if A have 2 friends in school, and B have 20003233 friends in school, then B is most popular. ;) Though that doesnt say anything bout what fun either of the 2 have, what skills, passions, etc etc. Dont go in defense course some journalist states tha fact that more people play another game than EVE - if you like EVE dont bother what he says, and spend time playing instead :)
Its a shame with all these post that looks like youre defending, and bashing other games. Instead of enjoy this one. Tbh it looks like theres envy, to a new guy coming to this forum, a post like this makes you think twice bout starting the game.
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.06.28 23:07:00 -
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the argument I always bring up against WoW is that it doesn't matter if that game has 1 billion or 5000 subscribers since you'll only be able to play with 5000 of them on a server. If you want 5000 others you'll just need to create a new character.
Even worse: Of those 5000 you can only talk to half of them because of the childish "no communication between horde and alliance" thing.
2500 players of which probebly only 1 out of 4 is online at one time: 500 players? Heck you call that massive multiplayer online? Thats more of a glorified 64 player battlefield 2 server.
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.28 23:43:00 -
[74]
I shudder to think what would happen if eve became popular. Can you imagine Jita with 3000 people in local? How about a fleet battle with 10k people? The lag/nodedeath would make baby jesus cry.
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UPA Terf
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.06.28 23:58:00 -
[75]
Hmm but then in another article (the link just below the bottom of the paragraph)
he calls left behind a great game..this person seems very mainstream and fundamentalist...i doubt he would go against whoever the "bigger boy" is at the time...
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Posted - 2007.06.29 01:46:00 -
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He's not slamming EVE, he's just saying it hasn't pulled in the audience yet. In another article about gaming addiction, he says this:
Quote:
Taking for example one of the best games over the last 90 years, Left Behind: Eternal Forces (it was either that or EVE Online) we will establish that an addictive video game is not only not possible, but impossible as well.
Point #1: You often hear the question asked, "What Would Jesus Do?" And the answer always comes back: "Kill ***** Bin Laden then make the best video game ever." Fortunately, Left Behind gives us a pretty good idea as to what kind of game the Lord will eventually make. Furthermore, because Jesus would have made it, that makes Left Behind the greatest game ever (again, not counting EVE Online, because no one can really grasp the true vastness and amazing depth of EVE).
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Posted - 2007.06.29 02:10:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Santa Anna
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Quote:
Sounds kinda reta_rded to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
Any article that uses the word reta_rded kinda losses credibility
At least "reta_rded" is a word. "Kinda" on the other hand, is not.
yea but your point is irrelevant to his post anyway.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.29 02:21:00 -
[78]
Point-by-point rebuttal posting spree !
" Jalipo, an Internet TV network offering stations such as the BBC and the beheading-friendly Al Jazeera, has begun offering the first news broadcast covering only the single MMORPG world of EVE Online. With what appears to be a production budget less than "Saul of the Mole Men," the show promises to "focus on player-led news and events, as well as providing access to behind-the-scenes information on the game." The network gets its money directly from viewers as opposed to advertisers, so there's no commercials but you will need a credit card. "
Basically, just a bash on the distributors of EVE-TV.
While we do have reasons enough to critique EVE-TV's new distribution model, that paragraph there shows beforehand what the writer's position towards the distributer is, and hence, his bias.
" And just to give you an idea of how deep the game can go, one of the biggest scandals in the world of EVE involved a player walking away with billions of Interstellar Kredits (EVE's in-game currency). Known as the "EVE Interstellar Bank Scam," a single player scammed others into investing in ISK until he had over 700 billion ISK. Sounds kinda ******** to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game. "
Basically, it's some guy who didn't even BOTHER playing EVE-Online, or if he played it, sounds like he didn't get past his free trial.
Also, he appears to get his "sources" from other major gaming sites, not from first-hand experience.
" But the most interesting thing about the show has to be that, according to mmogchart.com, EVE Online is actually one of the least popular MMORPGs around with CCP, EVE's developer/publisher, estimating over 170,000 active members. While that number appears to be growing steadily, compare it to the massively multiplayer monolith that is World of Warcraft. With a community of about 8 million players, it makes one wonder, just how far off is a 24-hour World of Warcraft news channel? ("Next up: Orcs destroy a village of warlocks; we speak with one elf who managed to escape.") "
The next point showing complete ignorance of what makes EVE, well... EVE.
He seems to fail to grasp the huge impact a "no shards" world has, like his final statement is obviously showing.
No, really, this article is so... not even in the same region as "newsworthy", and should be just thrown in the recycle bin.
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FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.29 02:49:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Santa Anna
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Quote:
Sounds kinda reta_rded to anyone not involved in EVE, but it was actually a major event in the course of the game.
Any article that uses the word reta_rded kinda losses credibility
At least "reta_rded" is a word. "Kinda" on the other hand, is not.
Yes it is, and that was kinda a worthless remark anyway =/
If you didnt wanna contribute why post?
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Posted - 2007.06.29 02:53:00 -
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I would take the community surrounding EVE Online over any other mmog's. The game is too complicated (ergo, not made to be anything like WoW) to attract as many fools as WoW has, and it receives its amount and types of players accordingly.
In any case, comparing any mmog to WoW will yield similar results, no other game has 8 million players.
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Southern Cross Incorporated
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.29 03:21:00 -
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My guide is intended to help the poor souls leaving WoW, looking for a brighter day, in their first days in Eve. I'm so over WoW.
EVE FTW!
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Posted - 2007.06.29 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Durn Loze on 29/06/2007 04:20:03
Based upon that article, the author would probably also state that Spam is better than Kobi beef because more people eat Spam.
All the writer showed was a lack of knowledge of either MMO and what makes them different experiences.
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Drofier Ilmatti
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.29 04:37:00 -
[83]
Well, I am not too much of a forum warrior but I am going to leave a nasty rant on this article of theirs...
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Hopestealer
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Posted - 2007.06.29 04:59:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Quick! To the Flamemobile! We cannot let such heresy stand!
Hahahahaha thats he funniest thing I've heard all day. Having just arrived today from the terrible forums and game that is Vanguard and how it got mashed by the forum love/hate wars, this article is not even worth commenting on. My consipracy theory of the day is that Wow sends out its minions to plant the seeds of discontent in a game's forums and then watches it erode (im kidding ... I think).
First day review of this game: Im exhausted and happy. Keep up the good work people.
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Byronius
Caldari
OtakuDyne Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.29 05:00:00 -
[85]
Thread's like these are always amusing to say the least.
The original report is like comparing Apples and Oranges. WoW and EVE are two completely different games, playstyles and mindsets. Regardless or not about subscriber base, as one previous poster mentioned, Blizzard has 8+ million active accounts. That is also split between a multitude of servers. EVE has 'X' many accounts, all simutaneous on one specific server.
Pro's and Con's about EVE.
Con's: If we are going to compare WoW to EVE, WoW offers a very simple style of gameplay. The game was built from the ground up to attract and hold as many subscribers as possible with a easy introduction to the MMO market. For 90% of the WoW playerbase, this is thier first MMO. It runs on most systems, brand new and older models as well. Hence the market accessibility to get to the greatest coverage.
EVE has a very in-depth learning curve in comparison to WoW. EVE requires that you actually take the time to think, even if it's just running missions to tweaking your ship, running group missions or fleet combat. WoW doesn't really require that from the starting point.
Pro's: Once again (I may sound fairly repeating) but the simplicity of WoW is a very good Pro. However, the world is very linear/non-dynamic and once you reach a certain level, its either 1.) Raid for continual gear upgrades, or 2.) Farm for faction/gold. That's it.
EVE: Dynamic world. Interacting politics/combat from different alliances actually make for a non-linear line of action. There is no 'magic planet' in EVE that one fleet of people can kill, then everyone else can farm the same event over and over for a % drop. I know I am probably not applying this as the besst example, but between the actual player interaction, market dynamics, technology and warfare make EVE a totally different beast from WoW.
And this comes from someone with 3 lvl 70's in WoW and a character here that was created in March 04.
I've simply bounced between the two games for what fits my schedule and playstyle. I find both fun in thier own paradigm. Currently, EVE fits my schedule and playstyle much better then the WoW raiding game.
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Byronius
Caldari
OtakuDyne Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.29 05:04:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Kharadran Sullath
Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 29/06/2007 02:54:03
I would take the community surrounding EVE Online over any other mmog's. The game is too complicated (ergo, not made to be anything like WoW) to attract as many fools as WoW has, and it receives its amount and types of players accordingly.
In any case, comparing any mmog to WoW will yield similar results, no other game has 8 million players.
Edit: The article is worse than you thought, look at the word before re_tarded...
No, that is actually a very good point. Because of that factor, and EVE being the unforgiving game it can be, it eliminates many of the 'tweakers' before they even start. The community in EVE (although some may beg to differ) is actually a thousand times better. Don't believe me? Try the WoW general forums some time. Let me know if you return with your sanity.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.06.29 05:17:00 -
[87]
Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Naran Darkmood
be thankful that guy writes on compuer games.
If he wrote about politics, he might cause wars!
(Yes, I know, any editor with have a brain would not publish anything like that...)
well yeah, but at least then he'd probebly get assassinated and we'd never have to listen to him again.
I...um....well...I do still have infil certed....
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cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.06.29 07:59:00 -
[88]
mmorpg.com rates eve over wow
quality >> quantity
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.29 08:15:00 -
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Edited by: Rells on 29/06/2007 08:14:10
The patience, dilligence, hard work and rewards in this game arent suitable for the instant gratification generation. Hence so few young ones playing.
And thank god for that.
Eve is the best MMOG out there even if CCP has HUA over the corp UI.
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zibelthurdos
Archron Dusyfe Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.29 08:32:00 -
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hmm, notice how there are no Pro-WOW comments at the end of that story.
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2007.06.29 09:21:00 -
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Article didnt seem biased.... I mean if it really wanted to bash EVE it could have made even a SLIGHT refernce to the server issues.
Oh, and that comment...
Originally by: Jack Target
"...according to mmogchart.com, EVE Online is actually one of the least popular MMORPGs around with CCP, EVE's developer/publisher, estimating over 170,000 active members. While that number appears to be growing steadily, compare it to the massively multiplayer monolith that is World of Warcraft."
Was complied by looking at a chart from another website... "OMG he's looked at a chart and drawn up a conclusion from the data it shows!!" I dont see him claiming it be be true anywhere, or even saying that it has a bearing on how EVE is... It simply says WoW has more suscribers. If you needed someone to break this news to you in a tiny article about EVE you need to actually log-out once in a while.
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ThaMa Gebir
Gallente
Raddick Explorations
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.29 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: ThaMa Gebir on 29/06/2007 10:13:20
Originally by: Judas Lonestar
Originally by: Naran Darkmood
be thankful that guy writes on compuer games.
If he wrote about politics, he might cause wars!
(Yes, I know, any editor with have a brain would not publish anything like that...)
Oh he did start a war!
My Raven is inbound to Ironforge as we speak. Lets see how long before I turn the fortress in the mountain into a hole in the ground!
I am right beside you in a Moros. Lets get the little F**kers.
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Stitcher
Caldari
legion of qui
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 29/06/2007 11:01:31
Lol. Just lol.
Originally by: ThaMa Gebir
Edited by: ThaMa Gebir on 29/06/2007 10:13:20
Originally by: Judas Lonestar
Originally by: Naran Darkmood
be thankful that guy writes on compuer games.
If he wrote about politics, he might cause wars!
(Yes, I know, any editor with have a brain would not publish anything like that...)
Oh he did start a war!
My Raven is inbound to Ironforge as we speak. Lets see how long before I turn the fortress in the mountain into a hole in the ground!
I am right beside you in a Moros. Lets get the little F**kers.
Dude. the GUNS on that Moros are bigger than Ironforge. The bolts of antimatter they fire are bigger than Ironforge!
Also, I think Ironforge already IS a hole in the ground. Apparently a volcano erupted under it or something.
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Sassiee
Minmatar
Empire Logistics and Holding Co.
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
Quantity != Quality
I'll take an indepth game like EVE above your "ME have club! ME smash skulls!" type of game any day.
The only thing WoW has going for it is publicity and hype. The game offer nothing but a grind (I've tried it).
The thing that makes EVE rise far above the rest is that it is an "Extreme Game for Extreme Players" one has to actually think and that fact alone turns off alot of people.
To the "Lazy Gamer" EVE can be very frustrating and IMHO that suites me just fine!
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