Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Originally by: Kramer Verone

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Whaaaat? Outbreak fighting IAC in the south and old northerners in the north at the same time?

IAC killboard coding ftl...

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Originally by: Minigin

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Edited by: Minigin on 30/06/2007 03:32:29

well i find it highly conincidental that just as the north is making a good counter offencive a few of the best greifer corps decide to rock up. outbreak and burn eden... all at once... how on earth is that just bad luck...

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Originally by: Selpy

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Originally by: Kramer Verone

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Whaaaat? Outbreak fighting IAC in the south and old northerners in the north at the same time?

IAC killboard coding ftl...

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we go anywhere bob wants us to, at anytime...the south...the north, it's all pew pew :)

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Originally by: Hatuk

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Originally by: Selpy

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we go anywhere bob wants us to, at anytime...the south...the north, it's all pew pew :)

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fixed it for you guys...

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Originally by: Hatuk

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Originally by: Selpy

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Originally by: Kramer Verone

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Whaaaat? Outbreak fighting IAC in the south and old northerners in the north at the same time?

IAC killboard coding ftl...

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we go anywhere bob wants us to, at anytime...the south...the north, it's all pew pew :)

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fixed it for you guys...

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Originally by: fire 59

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The conspiracy theorists that get in a fluster whenever someone moves somewhere to shoot something are always good for a laugh

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Originally by: fire 59

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The conspiracy theorists that get in a fluster whenever someone moves somewhere to shoot something are always good for a laugh

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Originally by: Hatuk

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we go anywhere our mains want us to, at anytime...the south...the north, it's all pew pew :)

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Originally by: Minigin

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Originally by: fire 59

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The conspiracy theorists that get in a fluster whenever someone moves somewhere to shoot something are always good for a laugh

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oh please, its a little too big of a coincidance to believe that all of a sudden all the greifer corps just happen to want to kill the forces that are attacking the new north. furthermore... i dont think you would know anything about who molle is hiring or not hiring. just because you have a ticker with BoB in it... does not mean you know what your leaders are up to.

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Originally by: Sextus Licinius

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Originally by: fire 59

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The conspiracy theorists that get in a fluster whenever someone moves somewhere to shoot something are always good for a laugh

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shhh, i'm at work, if you spoil this i'll come in NOL and kill you and all your alts in the station. So stfu

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Originally by: fire 59

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I'm not in nol you nubcake, im down south where the war is lolz

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Originally by: slothe

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Originally by: Minigin

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Originally by: fire 59

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The conspiracy theorists that get in a fluster whenever someone moves somewhere to shoot something are always good for a laugh

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oh please, its a little too big of a coincidance to believe that all of a sudden all the greifer corps just happen to want to kill the forces that are attacking the new north. furthermore... i dont think you would know anything about who molle is hiring or not hiring. just because you have a ticker with BoB in it... does not mean you know what your leaders are up to.

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i really object to being called a griefer tbh.

in 0.0 anything goes..

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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(...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Yes, they loose tech 2 ships in south.

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Originally by: slothe

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i really object to being called a griefer tbh.

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Originally by: William DeMeo

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All my love goes out to outbreak for being super kewl and replacing MC as the new cool kids. Can I join u guyz???

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Originally by: Hatuk

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Originally by: Selpy

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Originally by: Kramer Verone

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Whaaaat? Outbreak fighting IAC in the south and old northerners in the north at the same time?

IAC killboard coding ftl...

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we go anywhere bob wants us to, at anytime...the south...the north, it's all pew pew :)

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fixed it for you guys...

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I dont think ive ever seen the north in a more destructive mood. The sheer volume of towers getting blown up is beautiful.

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Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I dont think ive ever seen the north in a more destructive mood. The sheer volume of towers getting blown up is beautiful.

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Fixed :/

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Originally by: Minigin

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all of a sudden all the greifer corps just happen to want to kill the forces that are attacking the new north.

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I dont think ive ever seen the north in a more destructive mood. The sheer volume of people getting blown up is beautiful.

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Originally by: Mynas Atoch

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I dont think ive ever seen the north in a more destructive mood. The sheer volume of people getting blown up is beautiful.

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Thank you. We had hoped the New North we left in our wake would be fun. But you guys, on all sides, have exceded our expectations.

Myn

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: Mynas Atoch

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I dont think ive ever seen the north in a more destructive mood. The sheer volume of people getting blown up is beautiful.

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Thank you. We had hoped the New North we left in our wake would be fun. But you guys, on all sides, have exceded our expectations.

Myn

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I disagree with these two posters and am horrified by the carnage in the north.







Honest.

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Originally by: Major Stormer

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What should the MC do?

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Make things explode.

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Originally by: Minigin

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Originally by: fire 59

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The conspiracy theorists that get in a fluster whenever someone moves somewhere to shoot something are always good for a laugh

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oh please, its a little too big of a coincidance to believe that all of a sudden all the greifer corps just happen to want to kill the forces that are attacking the new north. furthermore... i dont think you would know anything about who molle is hiring or not hiring. just because you have a ticker with BoB in it... does not mean you know what your leaders are up to.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: Mynas Atoch

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I dont think ive ever seen the north in a more destructive mood. The sheer volume of people getting blown up is beautiful.

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Thank you. We had hoped the New North we left in our wake would be fun. But you guys, on all sides, have exceded our expectations.

Myn

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I disagree with these two posters and am horrified by the carnage in the north.







Honest.

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Originally by: Mynas Atoch

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I dont think ive ever seen the north in a more destructive mood. The sheer volume of people getting blown up is beautiful.

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Thank you. We had hoped the New North we left in our wake would be fun. But you guys, on all sides, have exceded our expectations.

Myn

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Originally by: Darpz

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Then you got tri/Presidian/PA shooting everyone

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Originally by: Caldess

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Edited by: Caldess on 30/06/2007 14:46:19
Well, we were gonna attack EXE, but then we were offered 2 motherships for our services.


Seriously, would any of you turn that down?

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Originally by: Minigin

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Originally by: fire 59

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The conspiracy theorists that get in a fluster whenever someone moves somewhere to shoot something are always good for a laugh

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oh please, its a little too big of a coincidance to believe that all of a sudden all the greifer corps just happen to want to kill the forces that are attacking the new north. furthermore... i dont think you would know anything about who molle is hiring or not hiring. just because you have a ticker with BoB in it... does not mean you know what your leaders are up to.

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Originally by: Jitagirl

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First they hide behind MC, now 0utbreak. Can they do anything of their own ?

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Originally by: Princess Jodi

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Any claim from Outbreak or Burn Eden that they are there for fun is pure bull...They're just 3rd-in-line proxys for Bob.

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So people can't have fun in eve, that's rather sad actually O and you maybe didn't hear it but we are an alt corp of ASCN, BOB, RAZOR, D2, MM, RISE, FIX, GOONS, RA and euhh, the rest I forgot

"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you."

Originally by: Princess Jodi

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The OP's question 'Is the new North competetive': The answer is No.

MC brought a fleet that could not be challenged, and swept through D2 space. MM and Razor withdrew rather than be crushed. The space was given to TInTSystem. Triumverate broke off helping TInTSystem, probably cuz they realizied how lame they were and cuz they think they can stand alone.

MC left. MM and Razor came back, and I was proud to be helping them. Other Northern Coalition alliances also helped. Less than 2 weeks later, TInTSystem has lost all the stations back to the original owners. Outbreak and Burn Eden are paid replacements for MC, but they won't do much more than stall the reconquest. Any claim from Outbreak or Burn Eden that they are there for fun is pure bull...They're just 3rd-in-line proxys for Bob.

The others in the 'new North' are simply next in line for reconquest. What Bob and MC are finding out is that the quality of their Pets is going down. They will have to be constantly on a pest control mission, attempting to stop the Coalition from regaining the systems they just cleared. This is the new role that Bob and MC will have to play - being the Tuesday and Friday garbage man. If they fail to make their rounds, they will find that their Pets have soiled their beds. I'm quite sure that they won't like that job and that pleases me.

July is here, and we'll see much more fighting in the North. When July is over, the paid lackeys will leave, the installed Pets will be removed and the Northern Coalition will be back in firm control. Pets like TerrorInTSystem will find that they cannot buy space and expect to keep it. This is a lesson we hope to teach all of the Bob Pets - you are nothing without your Master.

Too bad You Can't Teach An Old Dog New Tricks. We're gonna have to put 'em all down.

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Originally by: Yuki Li

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"WE'RE BEING SHOT AT!"

"Is it bob?"

"No!"

"Must be! THERE IS ONLY BOB"

"IT'S OUTBREAK"

"THEN BOB HIRED THEM!"

"IT'S ALREADY ON THE FORUM!"

"MUST BE A BOB ALT!11ONE"

It's all bob, bob, bob with you guys, isn't it?

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Originally by: Mindlles

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Just a question out off intrest, why does rule always smack?.. is it becouse u realise that u are really bad, and feel left out all the time or??

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Originally by: Patch86

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Whichever way you look at it, the dots CAN be joined up that way. MC conquer north for BoB. MC stop. Old north begins to reconquer BoB's new north. Outbreak and BE (both hired guns, or so the CAOD talk goes) both leap in against the old north.

True that doesn't mean that thats the case. Theres a hundred possible explanations ("just for fun" being one of which). That one is still possible though.

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Originally by: Krugerrand

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So, just because we are helping some of the northern corps (which, while blue to MC, were never blue to BoB), that means we must be working for BoB? we can't just be helping those corps?

Please continue with the tinfoilery, I recently bought all local stocks in preperation and am making a fortune.

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Originally by: James Damar

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And as said before in this thread Zak, we have had instances where we have temp naps to get things done, but those standings get reset after they serve their purpose.

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Originally by: Freaky Bare

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Most of the posters are not attacking Outbreak or Burn Eden. They are attacking the New North. Face it - they have their space due to MC and they hope to keep it through you guys. They will gain no more respect from that than my own alliance will gain losing ships to BE/Outbreak ganks. It's all relative. I am not calling you gankers, simply stating we lose to many ships to ganks which happen to come from you. (not the same thing.)

I think what is different for many of us is we could not stand the thought of owing our independence to a paid group instead of valued allies.

BTW the New North is much more fun than the old North. That may be something everyone agrees on???

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Originally by: Seleene

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Yes, I think it's time:

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Originally by: Krugerrand

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So, just because we are helping some of the northern corps (which, while blue to MC, were never blue to BoB), that means we must be working for BoB? we can't just be helping those corps?

Please continue with the tinfoilery, I recently bought all local stocks in preperation and am making a fortune.

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Originally by: Angor

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Who's side is Burn Eden actually on, because last time I checked they werent blue to us. If they have been hired, i dont think its our side thats hired them and as for outbreak, from what i've known of them they just go where the action is, i dont think they've been hired either.

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Originally by: Angor

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Originally by: Freaky Bare

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Most of the posters are not attacking Outbreak or Burn Eden. They are attacking the New North. Face it - they have their space due to MC and they hope to keep it through you guys. They will gain no more respect from that than my own alliance will gain losing ships to BE/Outbreak ganks. It's all relative. I am not calling you gankers, simply stating we lose to many ships to ganks which happen to come from you. (not the same thing.)

I think what is different for many of us is we could not stand the thought of owing our independence to a paid group instead of valued allies.

BTW the New North is much more fun than the old North. That may be something everyone agrees on???

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Who's side is Burn Eden actually on, because last time I checked they werent blue to us. If they have been hired, i dont think its our side thats hired them and as for outbreak, from what i've known of them they just go where the action is, i dont think they've been hired either.

And I love the way you make out as if the whole of the north's future is dependant on 2 corps, as good as they are, thats not the case.

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Originally by: Krugerrand

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we can't just be helping those corps?

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Originally by: Geli Tetro

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Ps Remind me who Rule of Three conquered to take your space as it seems to have slipped my mind.

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Originally by: Caldess

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We could have just as easily been in the North basing out of IMK, had the those guys thought to give us a shout first.

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Originally by: Angor

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Originally by: Freaky Bare

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Most of the posters are not attacking Outbreak or Burn Eden. They are attacking the New North. Face it - they have their space due to MC and they hope to keep it through you guys. They will gain no more respect from that than my own alliance will gain losing ships to BE/Outbreak ganks. It's all relative. I am not calling you gankers, simply stating we lose to many ships to ganks which happen to come from you. (not the same thing.)

I think what is different for many of us is we could not stand the thought of owing our independence to a paid group instead of valued allies.

BTW the New North is much more fun than the old North. That may be something everyone agrees on???

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Who's side is Burn Eden actually on, because last time I checked they werent blue to us. If they have been hired, i dont think its our side thats hired them and as for outbreak, from what i've known of them they just go where the action is, i dont think they've been hired either.

And I love the way you make out as if the whole of the north's future is dependant on 2 corps, as good as they are, thats not the case.

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Originally by: Wylker

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Edited by: Wylker on 02/07/2007 21:07:33
Lets say for a second that T.i.t.s. DID in fact hire outbreak. We'll say they hired them for 100 billion isk.

Now, why do you say they can't stand on their own? Being able to afford mercs to protect your space IS standing on your own. Just because you use hired guns to do it doesn't mean you're not still holding it. You may have some egotistical hardon for doing it yourself, but that doesn't make anyone else's methods wrong.

Hell, every professional army in the world gets paid. Many governments use mercenaries. Not using available resources to win a fight because your e-peen gets in the way is stupid.

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Originally by: Patch86

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Originally by: Wylker

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Edited by: Wylker on 02/07/2007 21:07:33
Lets say for a second that T.i.t.s. DID in fact hire outbreak. We'll say they hired them for 100 billion isk.

Now, why do you say they can't stand on their own? Being able to afford mercs to protect your space IS standing on your own. Just because you use hired guns to do it doesn't mean you're not still holding it. You may have some egotistical hardon for doing it yourself, but that doesn't make anyone else's methods wrong.

Hell, every professional army in the world gets paid. Many governments use mercenaries. Not using available resources to win a fight because your e-peen gets in the way is stupid.

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If T.I.T.S. did hire 0utbreak or BE, I'd be demanding my money back. Didn't they just lose their last station?

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Originally by: Patch86

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Originally by: Wylker

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Edited by: Wylker on 02/07/2007 21:07:33
Lets say for a second that T.i.t.s. DID in fact hire outbreak. We'll say they hired them for 100 billion isk.

Now, why do you say they can't stand on their own? Being able to afford mercs to protect your space IS standing on your own. Just because you use hired guns to do it doesn't mean you're not still holding it. You may have some egotistical hardon for doing it yourself, but that doesn't make anyone else's methods wrong.

Hell, every professional army in the world gets paid. Many governments use mercenaries. Not using available resources to win a fight because your e-peen gets in the way is stupid.

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If T.I.T.S. did hire 0utbreak or BE, I'd be demanding my money back. Didn't they just lose their last station?

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Originally by: Murina

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Seems to me that a gang of alliances that can easily field a 200 strong gang BUT who tacticaly run away from MC (wow you guys lost a lot of cap ships on that little tab) just to return and try to blob out the new residence realy have no real right or should feel any pride in there conquests. Or at least no more than the ppl who now sit in the stations they say they tacticaly ran away from.

Pure offensive corps will always and especialy over the last few weeks after the patch will always have the edge over the defenders because of the simple fact that the offensive guys dictate the times of most of the engagments.

But to bang on and on about taking out t1ts and how we new north wont last is short sighted. If it comes down to a blob vs blob war over and over with you making a stratigical withdrawal every time MC is seen in the area eventualy us new north will just bring enough peeps to either match you or out blob you either way its new north FTW.

Blob tactics aint nice and we can both use em, but when it comes down to takin outposts there are none better than MC.

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Originally by: Murina

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But to bang on and on about taking out t1ts and how we new north wont last is short sighted. If it comes down to a blob vs blob war over and over with you making a stratigical withdrawal every time MC is seen in the area eventualy us new north will just bring enough peeps to either match you or out blob you either way its new north FTW.

Blob tactics aint nice and we can both use em, but when it comes down to takin outposts there are none better than MC.

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Originally by: Barra Cheveyo

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Originally by: Krugerrand

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we can't just be helping those corps?

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If you're choosing targets randomly then you're like a bad slot machine for 'Alliance' enemies. Just before your trip to the north you were shooting at TCF in the south.

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Originally by: Freaky Bare

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BE did exactly what they seem to have signed on to do. They prevented assistance from Vale of the Silent and possibly slowed down assistance from Tribute.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Originally by: Freaky Bare

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BE did exactly what they seem to have signed on to do. They prevented assistance from Vale of the Silent and possibly slowed down assistance from Tribute.

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So you trying to say 20-30 BE pilots have stopped the 4000-5000 of Vale / Tribute inhabitants?.. I think it's about a time to change the thread title...

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Originally by: Krugerrand

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Originally by: Barra Cheveyo

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Originally by: Krugerrand

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we can't just be helping those corps?

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If you're choosing targets randomly then you're like a bad slot machine for 'Alliance' enemies. Just before your trip to the north you were shooting at TCF in the south.

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While you might be limited to a eve with two sides, doesn't mean we are.

We go where the fights will be good and fun and where our members will enjoy ourselves. Often our targets help to pick themselves (some smacktalk thrown our way etc). At the end of the day, we have many veteran players who have joined Outbreak as the last corp they will likely join before they leave the game, if it stops being fun, they will leave.

We have members from all sides of Eve, even ex-CELES, and all our members have different views and opinions on corps and alliances in this game.

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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar

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Originally by: Murina

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But to bang on and on about taking out t1ts and how we new north wont last is short sighted. If it comes down to a blob vs blob war over and over with you making a stratigical withdrawal every time MC is seen in the area eventualy us new north will just bring enough peeps to either match you or out blob you either way its new north FTW.

Blob tactics aint nice and we can both use em, but when it comes down to takin outposts there are none better than MC.

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What...I am not part of that war anymore, but it was NOT T1TS that defeated the north. The hostility, towards them is born of many other threads where they try to take credit for others actions.

I may be -10 to RZR, and they killed me quite recently, but I am very happy for their success in the north with their allies. Koth and Fred0 are doing a great job up there, it seems without MC support, the northern Pets are very poorly organized

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Originally by: SwindonBadger

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please fill in the form for hiring 0utbreak .

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Originally by: darth solo

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Originally by: SwindonBadger

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please fill in the form for hiring 0utbreak .

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how much will outbreak take for sheering my sheeps?.

d solo.

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Originally by: Khan Singh

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I prefer the north in the ôWild Westö mode. It was boring to live in ôNAPvilleö. I suspect that BOB will keep the north in perpetual state of disorganization That wonÆt be difficult since some of former powerhouses canÆt organize a decent gate camp. Bob Pets tend to just run around hunting former landlords that hide in NPC stations. Bitterness and denial are more abundant than roids since the home team lost so badly.

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Originally by: Patch86

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Originally by: Khan Singh

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I prefer the north in the ôWild Westö mode. It was boring to live in ôNAPvilleö. I suspect that BOB will keep the north in perpetual state of disorganization That wonÆt be difficult since some of former powerhouses canÆt organize a decent gate camp. Bob Pets tend to just run around hunting former landlords that hide in NPC stations. Bitterness and denial are more abundant than roids since the home team lost so badly.

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Which world do you live in? As far as I can tell, T.I.T.S. (a BoB newbie to the north) has just been flattened by RAZOR and allies (the old north), while Triumvirate (who have been a power in the north as long as anyone) seems to be coming off pretty well against Vigilante Infinitas (another BoB new northerner).

I don't really see many of the Pets "hunting former landlords who hide in stations" to be honest. Looks like a good old fashioned rumble to me, now that MC's overpowering presence has eased off.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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2 days ago I rescued my spare covops cloak from the ya0 station.

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Seems to me that a gang of alliances that can easily field a 200 strong gang BUT who tacticaly run away from MC (wow you guys lost a lot of cap ships on that little tab) just to return and try to blob out the new residence realy have no real right or should feel any pride in there conquests. Or at least no more than the ppl who now sit in the stations they say they tacticaly ran away from.

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"We left our poses because we had some other intel "

Originally by: XxAngelxX

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TRI will make a statement when we feel what we set out to do is accomplished. Which...if in all honesty has been, as 2 days ago I rescued my spare covops cloak from the ya0 station. But we'll see. We've had a couple of good fights but timezone differences are making our skirmish particularly boring and worse, POS orientated.

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Originally by: Syath

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seriously can we have the fight for the new world already i mean come on... when are we gonna see war engulf the drone regions.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Well we were bored, and wanted to hit some space, and no one had any better ideas and it is 20mill and all..

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Originally by: 6Bagheera9

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Personally I think this collapse of civilized relations between alliances is a great improvement and suspect that we can all look forward to more mindless mayhem, unspeakable barbarism, and above all else - senseless boat violence for quite some time to come.

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Originally by: Benglada

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And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?

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Originally by: Angor

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Edited by: Angor on 04/07/2007 17:38:51
.Razor attack right on Rev II release so t1ts have no constellation sov or the ability to hull rep destroyed pos guns etc. learning from the new changes was a dissadvantage for them from the start (including the new lag issues from Rev II).

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Originally by: MassonA

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Originally by: Angor

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Edited by: Angor on 04/07/2007 17:38:51
.Razor attack right on Rev II release so t1ts have no constellation sov or the ability to hull rep destroyed pos guns etc. learning from the new changes was a dissadvantage for them from the start (including the new lag issues from Rev II).

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i thought razor had been attacking terror in the sys before rev 2

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Originally by: Murina

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I cannot say i shed many tears or even fought with my normal vigor for t1ts space.
With them only bringing limited numbers to the fight and owning 4 outposts with realy no chance to defend them against a single alliance let alone several i just sorta did'nt care.

I mean getting a shout by a t1ts player over the northern intel channel that 20BS were in there system and they needed help???. Perhaps the guy who wrote in intel that an alliance that cannot deal with 20bs did'nt realy deserve to hold 4 outposts could of been more diplomatic about it but hey its not like many actualy disagreed with him.

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Originally by: Catov

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Originally by: Murina

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I cannot say i shed many tears or even fought with my normal vigor for t1ts space.
With them only bringing limited numbers to the fight and owning 4 outposts with realy no chance to defend them against a single alliance let alone several i just sorta did'nt care.

I mean getting a shout by a t1ts player over the northern intel channel that 20BS were in there system and they needed help???. Perhaps the guy who wrote in intel that an alliance that cannot deal with 20bs did'nt realy deserve to hold 4 outposts could of been more diplomatic about it but hey its not like many actualy disagreed with him.

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Now I don't know too much about the conflict but i must say that.

a) This seems to be a bit short sighted, after all do you think rzr will take back tenal and then happily nap you and M.pire, no what they'll do is help their other friends to take your space and get the north going again polulated by their old friends. If every north ally acts like you then i very much doubt the new north and you will survive very long. You could clearly win all together but you seem to think that you should fight alone which would seem to be very stupid.

b) I don't think i'd want you as an ally, this lack of action seems to be saying to all your other allies that hey we'll have you blue and let you pass through our space, but when your attacked don't expect any help becuase we only care about our space. Come on, i'd rather stick by my friends and help them get strong than let them die and have an enemy for a neighbour, It really is a no brainer.

Just my 2 cents

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Originally by: Catov

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Now I don't know too much about the conflict but i must say that.

a) This seems to be a bit short sighted, after all do you think rzr will take back tenal and then happily nap you and M.pire, no what they'll do is help their other friends to take your space and get the north going again polulated by their old friends. If every north ally acts like you then i very much doubt the new north and you will survive very long. You could clearly win all together but you seem to think that you should fight alone which would seem to be very stupid.

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Originally by: Angor

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.ex LV corps have learnt from mistakes in LV and have decided not to fight wars for alliances that hold no chance of successfuly defending themselves.

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