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DrunkenNinja
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.07 09:41:00 -
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Think about it. RNG: Check
Emphasis on RP: Check
Gear/stats > player skill: Check
Content is player generated: Check
I know this may come as a shock, but it's a conspiracy. CCP are actually the biggest dungeon masters ever. Many people who play EVE came straight from D&D. EVE is not an action gameGÇöit is not a strategy game... it is primarily a role playing game. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
940
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Posted - 2012.01.07 09:46:00 -
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Well, CCP does have a tendency to call NPC sites 'Dungeons'. |

Tore Vest
Vikinghall
132
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Posted - 2012.01.07 09:46:00 -
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CCP is working hard now... To be more like WoW  |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1249
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Posted - 2012.01.07 10:00:00 -
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activate group of 1400mm guns *rolls D6 1 missed *rolls D6 6 hit rolls D12 12 perfect strike *rolls D6 4 hits *rolls D12 2 hardly scratch it
***** and so on. |

Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor
95
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Posted - 2012.01.07 10:14:00 -
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I don't want to live in this galaxy any more?
Nah I'll stay and feed your markets a bit longer. "Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363976#post363976 |

Winters Chill
Valhalla Legion
42
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Posted - 2012.01.07 10:41:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:
Think about it....
I have and you offer absolutely no evidence to support your arguments other than some poorly thought out bullet points.
DrunkenNinja wrote:
Gear/stats > player skill: Check
I don't believe this is entirely true, yes some items give you a clear edge. But there is a reason some players call other players "flying pinyatas".
Eve is an MMORPG. Like all MMORPG's it is partially modelled on it is pen and paper cousins. If this bothers you feel free to send me your stuff as it will go towards my super leet gear (+5 lasers) and my Tower Of Aknobash spell(tm). |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
203
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Posted - 2012.01.07 11:12:00 -
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The RNG for your thread has rolled a fail for you. Go ahead and blame your ****** post on RNG. Threads like this generally result in anything positive.
Locked. |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1148
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Posted - 2012.01.07 11:38:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:
Emphasis on RP: Check.
Where does D&D have Research Points? |

Nex apparatu5
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
141
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Posted - 2012.01.07 11:50:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote: ... it is primarily a role playing game.
So you're saying that Eve is... a multiplayer online role playing game? Maybe even a massive one?
Wait a second.
Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game
MMORPG
OH ****, WE'RE PLAYING AN MMO, STOP THE ******* PRESSES.
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Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2012.01.07 12:19:00 -
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EVE is a harsh mistress? Compared to the way my friends and I played AD&D back when we were sadistic little pre-teen pukes in the late 70s and early 80s, EVE is a coddling, affectionate wet-nurse. :) |

Ghoest
239
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Posted - 2012.01.07 12:21:00 -
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I like D@D I play DDO I play EVE
The OP is a clueless noob. Wherever You Went - Here You Are |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1150
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Posted - 2012.01.07 12:22:00 -
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Hainnz wrote:EVE is a harsh mistress? Compared to the way my friends and I played AD&D back when we were sadistic little pre-teen pukes in the late 70s and early 80s, EVE is a coddling, affectionate wet-nurse. :)
Tomb of Horrors. |

Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
34
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Posted - 2012.01.07 12:27:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:DrunkenNinja wrote:
Emphasis on RP: Check.
Where does D&D have Research Points?
2nd Edition Skills and Options. Not exactly the same thing; but close enough.
I really don't see the relation to D&D however. I haven't played in ~12 years, since they scrapped the above in favor of 3rd edition; but I don't recall it being anything like this. Oh.. wait.. there was that backstabbing **** I had to play with.
Guy had a character that was Tiefling, (half-demon for all intents and purposes), and an Assassin/Thief; while I played a more respectable Solamnic Knight of sorts, turned Fighter/many multi-classes. We were all stuck in the Abyss, somewhere around the 66th layer, and trying to find our way back out of a rather twisted version of the Demonweb pits, after somehow getting transported there from Krynn.
Don't know if any of you have any familiarity, but every layer and domain of the Abyss is different; with warped and twisted deviations of what you might find in the real world. Nothing is really what it seems at face value, and with the GM we had; well, it was a lot worse than usual.
Long story short, we couldn't really die, as we just respawned back in a salt mine somewhere as slaves with nothing but rags and a will to get out of there. Assassin guy was a pain in the neck as he usually was about as trustworthy as the plane itself, and in at least one game I missed; the GM allowed him to assassinate my character.
Without surprise, that was the game in which they all escaped, and I never did end up getting out until much later. I solo palyed after that for awhile and eventually got out; but not without some serious issues with my characters actual condition. Never was sure after that, whether he was actually dead or alive.
He ended up rebuilding Krynn as a quasi-diety after my GM let loose the forces of the Abyss on it and wiped out all semblance of life; leaving it a lava strewn wasteland, with no more than mineral value and base elements to work with. That was some time, (Multiple Plane hops, more than a few worlds-some unknown), and many travels later of course.
I actually came to like the Salt mines and the idea of my character peacably slaving away there. Better than playing with those guys again. It was about 2 years before I picked up where I'd left off that day, and took that character through the rest of his journeys.
Funny I remember that so well.
EVE is a little more static I think, and not nearly as deep as all that. Plus, there's SP, and thankfully no 3rd edition |

DrunkenNinja
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.01.07 12:50:00 -
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You guys are missing the point. Games like Starcraft are the antithesis of games like EVE and WoW (I used D&D as a hilarious example). This is why EVE isn't that fun imo. |

Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
63
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:07:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:You guys are missing the point. Games like Starcraft are the antithesis of games like EVE and WoW (I used D&D as a hilarious example). This is why EVE isn't that fun imo.
what are you some kind of a savior? let us have our badwrongfun. |

Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1225
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:15:00 -
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Well EVE was initially based on Ultima Online (Which in turn is based on D&D) and Elite... so yeah, just like pretty much every RPG (Including EVE) out there, the routes go all the way back to D&D in some instances. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4295
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:23:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:activate group of 1400mm guns *rolls D6 1 missed *rolls D6 6 hit rolls D12 12 perfect strike *rolls D6 4 hits *rolls D12 2 hardly scratch it That's now how it works, silly. It's much simpler than that. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
71
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:36:00 -
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"Are the drones Ogres? I have a +9 dagger against Ogres! Where's the Mountain Dew? Am I getting drunk yet?"
Yes, I only have a Vigil, I've had a bad bit of luck Ok? |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
251
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:42:00 -
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I always fit an Elven Cloak to my stealth bomber, what do you use? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Famble
Three's a Crowd
250
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:52:00 -
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Your arguments are poorly made and you are clearly projecting your personal feelings on to all of us.
I'm fairly certain d&d's subscriber base barely exceeded thirteen people. Apparently you were one of them. Gear is important in all games of this nature to be sure but never have I played an mmo that actual player skill factors in such noticeable way.
Long story short, no.
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |

Xuko Nuki
Submerged Living
12
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Posted - 2012.01.07 16:02:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:I always fit an Elven Cloak to my stealth bomber, what do you use?
As if an elven cloak could fit on a SB   , consult your fitting manual and try again, nerd.
|

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.01.07 17:28:00 -
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All my rifters, are outfitted with girdles of giant strength.  You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Tiberius Amzadee
The Omega Sovereign Flux Initiative
5
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Posted - 2012.01.07 17:37:00 -
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What a horrible comparison. This is just like comparing a campfire to a nuclear reactor. |

Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
27
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Posted - 2012.01.07 17:44:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote: Gear/stats > player skill: Check
This is the seed of a shiny KM. We should provide lots of ISK and encouragement until it's ready for harvest.
EDIT:
Also, I always felt EvE had a lot more in common with Traveler than D&D. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |

Cyprus Black
Tears of Redemption NEM3SIS.
120
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Posted - 2012.01.07 17:58:00 -
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OP
Do you ever get that nagging voice in the back of your head? The one that says to keep your mouth shut because you're about to say something incredibly stupid and embarrass yourself?
Why didn't you listen to that voice when you made this post? Now you look ********. Like my post? Made you laugh or think? Maybe even offended or nausiated you? Then give a Like. They're free and oh so easy to give. |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
468
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Posted - 2012.01.07 21:51:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:
Gear/stats > player skill: Check
You clearly never play eve. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Elessa Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.01.07 23:22:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:RubyPorto wrote:DrunkenNinja wrote:
Emphasis on RP: Check.
Where does D&D have Research Points? 2nd Edition Skills and Options. Not exactly the same thing; but close enough. I really don't see the relation to D&D however. I haven't played in ~12 years, since they scrapped the above in favor of 3rd edition; but I don't recall it being anything like this. Oh.. wait.. there was that backstabbing **** I had to play with. Guy had a character that was Tiefling, (half-demon for all intents and purposes), and an Assassin/Thief; while I played a more respectable Solamnic Knight of sorts, turned Fighter/many multi-classes. We were all stuck in the Abyss, somewhere around the 66th layer, and trying to find our way back out of a rather twisted version of the Demonweb pits, after somehow getting transported there from Krynn. Don't know if any of you have any familiarity, but every layer and domain of the Abyss is different; with warped and twisted deviations of what you might find in the real world. Nothing is really what it seems at face value, and with the GM we had; well, it was a lot worse than usual. Long story short, we couldn't really die, as we just respawned back in a salt mine somewhere as slaves with nothing but rags and a will to get out of there. Assassin guy was a pain in the neck as he usually was about as trustworthy as the plane itself, and in at least one game I missed; the GM allowed him to assassinate my character. Without surprise, that was the game in which they all escaped, and I never did end up getting out until much later. I solo palyed after that for awhile and eventually got out; but not without some serious issues with my characters actual condition. Never was sure after that, whether he was actually dead or alive. He ended up rebuilding Krynn as a quasi-diety after my GM let loose the forces of the Abyss on it and wiped out all semblance of life; leaving it a lava strewn wasteland, with no more than mineral value and base elements to work with. That was some time, (Multiple Plane hops, more than a few worlds-some unknown), and many travels later of course. I actually came to like the Salt mines and the idea of my character peaceably slaving away there. Better than playing with those guys again. It was about 2 years before I picked up where I'd left off that day, and took that character through the rest of his journeys. Funny I remember that so well. EVE is a little more static I think, and not nearly as deep as all that. Plus, there's SP, and thankfully no 3rd edition lol, Tieflings == win
Also, I have played with people like that as well, sadly it is the reason I don't play anymore
Also, 3.5 is IMHO the best version of D&D released to date, the people who came up with 4th, should however be executed and everything pertaining to 4th should be burned Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
71
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:33:00 -
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Wait, wuyt? There was a 2nd edition? I like my random dragon tables having % liar on them. Yes, I only have a Vigil, I've had a bad bit of luck Ok? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4298
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:46:00 -
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Pff. Earthdawn > D&D.
Sure, it's a silly class/level based system, but at least they've tried to build a world that incorporates and explains that silliness.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Lorimer
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
1
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:48:00 -
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Tomb of Horrors.[/quote]
And you think eve is a cold hard mistress :) |
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