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Gerome Doutrande
Rue Morgue
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:42:00 -
[61]
someone recruit zola already before he starts to cry.  
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:53:00 -
[62]
Id say the answer is simple to find and easy to know because if your looking at non lag ops that show pure skill your lookin at small gangs.
So id say its whoever wins the torneys they are 0 lag 0 blob its down to the know how of the pilots.
Any thing else is about either numbers or style of play.
ie;
Outbreak are superb at there type of hit and run.
MC ftw in pos warfare
and on and on depending on the circumstances of the engagment who is flyin and who there attacking.
But with the tourneys the players get to choose the ship type, mods all within certain limits. and all know the type and size of the playing field.
So it comes down to good choices of ships/fittings, good fc'ing, fast thinking and reactions to a scenario, adaptability and as with all situations combat, real, or otherwise a bit of luck.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:59:00 -
[63]
Outbreak.
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History is made by whinners
 Originally by: DB Preacher
(...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:06:00 -
[64]
OMG, the first 2 alliance tournaments were so far removed from pvp that it was stupid. The thrid initially resembled pvp but then the rules were modified and it became an abortion that barely represented true pvp. I am excited about the new rules as it more closely resembles true pvp.
But again LOL at you for thinking the winner of the PVP tournaments is automatically the best pvp force in the game
P.S. LOL at you again, I mean really.... LOL 
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Sutter Kane
Caldari
Zombie Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:10:00 -
[65]
Zombie inc.
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Capt Rob
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:11:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
P.S. LOL at you again, I mean really.... LOL
in my opinion, two lols in the such close proxminity is just rong
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Traffic
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:13:00 -
[67]
ATUK
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:16:00 -
[68]
From all corps i have seen till now? CELES hands down.
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ignisgunner
Minmatar
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:18:00 -
[69]
Edited by: ignisgunner on 02/07/2007 21:20:04
Originally by: Vital Efters
1v1 goonfleet could beat any corp in eve, that should be the deciding factor
wow lol....okay okay back to topic
Rage and terror...like these dudes are super sneaky evil russians
Mass...need i say more
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Forty Three
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:20:00 -
[70]
The Establishment
Outbreak
Cruel Intentions <-- I know it's an alliance but I can't differentiate between the corps so meh
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UNITY!!!
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slothe
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:40:00 -
[71]
the only people i worry about when i see in local are RAT
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:46:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
OMG, the first 2 alliance tournaments were so far removed from pvp that it was stupid. The thrid initially resembled pvp but then the rules were modified and it became an abortion that barely represented true pvp. I am excited about the new rules as it more closely resembles true pvp.
But again LOL at you for thinking the winner of the PVP tournaments is automatically the best pvp force in the game
P.S. LOL at you again, I mean really.... LOL
Seems to me that running a gank squad against a certain type of foe and getting kills is yes pvp but only a certain type of skill.
If you judge by getting space cleared and gaining outposts MC ftw. But they do not keep them so what else shall you judge by?.
I suppose burnt edens tactics?. are you the best at your style?. Are outbreak?.
Its easy to get kills if your specialised and do not wanna build a 0.0 alliance with outposts and just fly around popping ships chosen by the criteria and situation that suits your style and fleet.
Its also easy to out blob does that make goons and there pets the best?.
So before you scoff and LOL or flash your killboard or your knowledge of your style of pvp why do you not try a level playing field like the tourney to be judged on or have you already and been found wanting?.
Asking who is the best PVP corp is a to broad a question because theres to many forms of pvp.
The question should be who is best at what type ie; pos, small gang, sniper gank and the rest. then make a list of types and ranks.
But like it or not the tourneys still give a better view of who make the best all round teams out of a corp. And if thats not you or yours then i suppose you would mock them and anybody else for suggesting that they be the instrument we measure skill, team work and all the other things that make good pvpers.
I say you stick to your own style if your so afraid of getting out of your comfort zone and avoid the tourney. It sounds like you prefer the admiration others give you for your style and type of pvp than to risk losing that admiration by failing the challenge of a level or unfamiliar playing field.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:55:00 -
[73]
Small part of outbreak like 10% of people, during time, when they havent start to recruit everybody who : "you was + at the time while we were fix, so we will recruit you". Old hardcore triade + battle angels crew.
S.A.S. : Creative, hardcore, adapted to "bring moar supercapitals" stuff.
TAOSP : 80% of "you are my old friend, so wellcome to my corp", but they have few ppl like TWD, who is selfish moron, but very good @ pvp. And they have Farjung, who is loved by everybody, his mom, his dog and cat (also good covert ops)
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Stribog
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:57:00 -
[74]
RAT are really really good at what they do, god damn those maxed skilled probers. 
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Kaleeb
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:58:00 -
[75]
Not many corps I like atm really, the ones that still stand out are:
1. RAT
2. Some of Outbreak
3. DNA
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RacerX1
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:58:00 -
[76]
Edited by: RacerX1 on 02/07/2007 21:59:41
Originally by: slothe
the only people i worry about when i see in local are RAT
amen to that...RAT is the one corp I get nervous about in local anymore. They are truly evil people. We constantly fought them while in the Triad, and it was always 50/50 I was gonna die.
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MINERALMAN
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:10:00 -
[77]
1. RAT ( with ET:) i love that dude... )
2. Evolution
3. UAI ( one of the oldest players)
4. DICE( cause it's ex atuk)
5. Xenobytes
6. Solar Dragons( cause i like MACTEP)
and dont give a ....... about the rest... the rest are to young for me.
ps... East Side is da Best
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Random Womble
Minmatar
Master Miners
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:20:00 -
[78]
1. Snigg
2. NESW
Yes both are in pandemic however NESW i have fought both with and against.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:21:00 -
[79]
Rage and Terror - Nasty to fight, but man they drop great loot.
Wreckless Abandon - Gets associated rep from a few superstars, but those stars are very good.
Mercenary Forces - Haven't fought them recently, but they were skillful and smack-free when we did.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:29:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 02/07/2007 22:29:36
Originally by: Forty Three
The Establishment
Outbreak
Cruel Intentions <-- I know it's an alliance but I can't differentiate between the corps so meh
yay..bout time someone mentioned us 
We had a sweet fight against you guys, out numbered in G-5 recently, then we went on to fight CVA with the remainder of our gang, and killed a lot of them too..tbh we were after them nasty slavers, you guys just got in the way I think you were in tempest mate, but you got to love the Vaga in close range stuff like that.
I vote UK, because they fight outnumbered and are "underdogs"...and minie rules
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Pigvar Molestor
Caldari
EarthPig ArmPit Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:44:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
OMG, the first 2 alliance tournaments were so far removed from pvp that it was stupid. The thrid initially resembled pvp but then the rules were modified and it became an abortion that barely represented true pvp. I am excited about the new rules as it more closely resembles true pvp.
But again LOL at you for thinking the winner of the PVP tournaments is automatically the best pvp force in the game
P.S. LOL at you again, I mean really.... LOL
Is there any corp that BE have met several times that actually try fighting back by attacking?
That jump into your gate camp now and then full gung ho and can get a little handful of respect from BE for trying?
I believe that none of the mentioned corp`s in this thread have done that and if Pookie can mention one that have balls it would end on my list..
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:48:00 -
[82]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 02/07/2007 22:48:05
In no particular order:
I would say Outbreak/ba & E.R. but I'm part of one and the other doesn't exist anymore. Why these two? Because in my old corp we fought both and got battered by both. The only two corps I believe we came off with a negative ratio against over more than a week.
celes - Still has a few of the veterans that made it so great back in the day. For a while my old corp could do no wrong, I miss the old days.
bnc - not a fan of the alliance but they sure know how to play eve. bnc stood out the most for me on the battlefield.
My last choice was a difficult one, I believe burn eden are a force to be reckoned with but I just don't think they'd cut it in a slugging match with a grass roots battleship corp, not in ravens anyway :P. They get an honourable mention for their ability to kill stuff without losing stuff though.
rat - As some of my corp mates have said rat can play with the nerves a bit. I think part of it is the cold russian thing. Their corp is unknown to most of us just like the russian community. Fear of the unknown I guess. :E
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.02 23:01:00 -
[83]
Originally by: welsh wizard
The only two corps I believe we came off with a negative ratio against over more than a week.
aww welshy, I am fairly certain that you had to remove us from active campaigns as you dropped below 50%
But I have fought you whilst in MOM, and D2, and have to admit, Outbreak taught me a lesson or three  You guys kind of rock a little...ok maybe quite a lot
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 23:03:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: welsh wizard
The only two corps I believe we came off with a negative ratio against over more than a week.
aww welshy, I am fairly certain that you had to remove us from active campaigns as you dropped below 50%
But I have fought you whilst in MOM, and D2, and have to admit, Outbreak taught me a lesson or three You guys kind of rock a little...ok maybe quite a lot
I'm talking about Celes dude :P
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Z33ro
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.02 23:05:00 -
[85]
0utbreak
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.02 23:16:00 -
[86]
Originally by: welsh wizard
I'm talking about Celes dude :P
ooops..so you are
Oh well...you are still damm good, and we are not so shabby either
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Mythrell
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.07.02 23:34:00 -
[87]
I have to go with couple alliances / corps (can't really separate one corp from alliances in my books)
Outbreak: They bring best BS to support ratio I've seen every time, also their sabre pilots are damn good
Burn Eden: They have mastered their style, maybe not most honorable way of doing things but sure is effective.
Mercenary Coalition: They're best I've fought against in overall EVE warfare.
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Stockarian
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.02 23:45:00 -
[88]
Contraband
Mercenary Forces
Outbreak
To save time, why don't you avoid the facts and get right to the spin.
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.02 23:58:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
aww welshy, I am fairly certain that you had to remove us from active campaigns as you dropped below 50%
I created a campaign for you because I expected to have fights. When it turned into a non-event I dropped it. Our killboard campaigns section is cluttered enough as it is.
I reinstated the campaign for you, I'll remove it in a day or two. *****.
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Shiva Shakti
Gallente
Hi-Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.03 00:02:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Not many corps I like atm really, the ones that still stand out are:
1. RAT
2. Some of Outbreak
3. DNA
Very close to my thoughts, not the massive fleet killing mass gankage, but more the lag free hunter killer head of the food-chain type thing...based on pure firepower and tactical prowess related to numbers in gang etc (involving historical license here as several are inactive, also leaving out any my mains have flown with)
1. SAS
2. DNA
3. RAT
4. MC
5. Outbreak
6. Killer Clowns from outer space (where did they go :(
7. Tundragon and other gate camping nasties that made low sec entertaining
8. ASS in the Lord Mix days
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