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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.07.11 13:29:00 -
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Don't blame BE if you haven't figured out a way to counter them yet. They've only been using the same tactics forever.  But yeah..."BURN EDEN you don't deserve to be mentioned for PVP because you kill too much and don't die enough!". 
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KardonHarman
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.11 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: KardonHarman on 11/07/2007 13:56:43
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In my personal experience, they are the only guys that rutinely engage outnumbered 20:1 and manage to make the other guys retreat
I can name quite a few corps that do that regularly,
mainly the smaller totally PVP focused corps/alliances.
Just a few out of lots - these I mention from personal experience of flying in/alongside or against- I am sure there are many more
all have my respect for being damn good PvPers
Veto
TBSV (now defunct)
Triumvurate
Mutually Assured Destruction
Pilots of Honour
The Movement
Turbulent
and of course Pandemic Legion
Those that have my respect for maybe not being the best PVPers in the world but refusing to lay down and die/surrender
FLA
Bruce
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cardassius
Well, there is never gonna be a top 5 pvp corps list because no one had the experience of fighting the same corps.
Good to see our corpname mentioned!
Too many good pvp corps out there for me to make a top 5 list.
For the people mentioning Burn Eden as a top PVP corp, well you can.. but my experience is that they mostly lack balls.
And that makes them very predictable (remember that when fighting them).
Well lets see here...
We "lack balls", is that why your alliance feels its necessary to jump in multiple cap ships/mother ships to fight just a few of us? Or bring a blob to fight us with no caps involved?
Predictable, is that saying if you are there we will attack you no matter what the odds or the ships you have? Does that sound about right?
Bottom line is we dont care what others think of us, our success speaks for its self.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cardassius
Well, there is never gonna be a top 5 pvp corps list because no one had the experience of fighting the same corps.
Good to see our corpname mentioned!
Too many good pvp corps out there for me to make a top 5 list.
For the people mentioning Burn Eden as a top PVP corp, well you can.. but my experience is that they mostly lack balls.
And that makes them very predictable (remember that when fighting them).
I tried to refrain from posting on this but you sir are not telling the whole truth.
In the only 2 engagements that BURN EDEN has had with Suckapin Technologies I lost a raven in n-rael doing solo heroics ie 1 vs 6 of you. Yeah all we do is gank and run ohh wai....
The second engagement, you ganked DHB Wilcat, by jumping in 5 carriers and a crap load of support on our gatecamp consisting of 3 ravens and a few dictors. Once again all we do is gank and run. But guess what, even when outnumbering us in both engagements in the order of 6-1, we still managed to kill more of you than you killed of us.
You obviously do not speak for MC or even represent the majority of MC pilots in smacking our abilities. Maybe you should pull your farking head in a little and ask some of the older MC members who have been around the block a few times just how ordinary we are. I mean seriously smacking our abilities is like sitting at home watching a football game and yelling at the screen and saying I'm a better coach than you or even I could have kicked that goal!
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.12 01:41:00 -
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lmao I remember that one well. (When SERA, or I should say MC killed me) They tackled SATAN, he made thier interceptor warp off, while we both slamed the command ship next to him. It lost lock and he warped off. An inty was racing for me (I was 140km away from SATAN) I clicked warp, but a Falcon had uncloaked next to me a scrambled me. So Evil, and I killed the buzzard that was making the cyno. Then 5 carriers jumped in about 180km away. Evil warped out by now. The inty had caught me and a domi warped to me. So knowing I was done for, I ask who wants to bet I kill more of them before they take me down!? I two volleyed the Falcon, and since I couldnt hold anything down, I decided to kill the only thing I knew I could kill that would warp out.... fighters 8). Took three down before they got to me. By then the 20 man support gang and 5 carrier loads of fighters had me in structure and popped. MC 1 / BE 2 (ships) 3 (fighters).
The Falcon cost more than my Raven did 8).
The End.
WildCat
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Plim
Gallente
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.07.12 14:34:00 -
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BE aren't allowed to have a good rep because Fragm was in your corp lol
Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus." |
Frozen Light
Art of War
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:09:00 -
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I will give my vote to
.EE
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Proxay
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.15 18:06:00 -
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Best PvP corp...uhh...Lord Chaos and his alt AmunRaa?
I still don't understand how people manage two accounts in pvp so effectively, macro-managing one is hard enough, let alone two.
Fallen Angel's Recruitment |
Gypsy Djinn
V I R I I
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Posted - 2007.07.16 00:24:00 -
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This was a pretty humorous thread, but then again the 8000 similar threads on the same subject over the years have always been pretty humorous...
I'm not sure what killing capitols has to do with your talent level at PVP especially in the context that the OP poised the question. As I understand it he was looking for a best average skill level of the corp at PvP and anyone who would deny that Burn Eden doesn't rank in that list somewhere has either never fought them and believe the incredible amount of BS that spews from people who have and gotten their ass handed to them... or have fought them first hand, gotten their asses handed to them and just want to try and discredit them somehow to try and make their own short comings less glaringly obvious.
To me the sign of a skilled PvP'er is someone who doesn't just look at numbers but calculates odds of outcome in a fight and in turn make adjustments to their game plan to sway those odds in their favor. Like everything else though in life sometimes things don't go as planned and its refreshing to see a group that takes so much smack from people be gracious in defeat and acknowledge others skills when they do overcome.
That is something that is probably lost on most of the people in this thread, so to those you can just continue on with your "blah, blah, capitols, blah, blah, we have fleets of 300, we kill nodes, blah, blah, we t0tally pnwed u. u r so n00b and we are so 1337" |
Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.16 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsy Djinn
This was a pretty humorous thread, but then again the 8000 similar threads on the same subject over the years have always been pretty humorous...
I'm not sure what killing capitols has to do with your talent level at PVP especially in the context that the OP poised the question. As I understand it he was looking for a best average skill level of the corp at PvP and anyone who would deny that Burn Eden doesn't rank in that list somewhere has either never fought them and believe the incredible amount of BS that spews from people who have and gotten their ass handed to them... or have fought them first hand, gotten their asses handed to them and just want to try and discredit them somehow to try and make their own short comings less glaringly obvious.
To me the sign of a skilled PvP'er is someone who doesn't just look at numbers but calculates odds of outcome in a fight and in turn make adjustments to their game plan to sway those odds in their favor. Like everything else though in life sometimes things don't go as planned and its refreshing to see a group that takes so much smack from people be gracious in defeat and acknowledge others skills when they do overcome.
That is something that is probably lost on most of the people in this thread, so to those you can just continue on with your "blah, blah, capitols, blah, blah, we have fleets of 300, we kill nodes, blah, blah, we t0tally pnwed u. u r so n00b and we are so 1337"
Its rational, well thought out responses like this that are destroying CAOD. 
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Gypsy Djinn
V I R I I
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Posted - 2007.07.16 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Pookie
Its rational, well thought out responses like this that are destroying CAOD.
You are correct, my bad... I mean lets be honest rational has no place in the current EVE anyway, let alone CAOD, especially in the PvP context... Thats almost as preposterous as making sure you have hardware and software capable of handling a useless added feature that anyone who can do a google search could come up with 2 better FREE options.
PvP, what a novel idea, where it use to be the main selling point of this game, now it seems to be the thorn in the game creators sides. EvE was always ranked highly by gamers for its PvP aspects, but CCP would rather us all just run missions in +.5 and talk about it on eve-voice while it takes 2 minutes for your screen to load when you undock from station or jump through a gate...
Im glad this thread has run it's course as I am sure it will be locked now as we know you can't question the Gods without the almighty lock... maybe eve-tv can have Hilmar explain to the 12 subscribers about the absolute ridiculous notion that there is unplayable lag and a desynch and about how everyone so wanted this feature and how everyone is so happy with it's implementation, to be followed by a group drinking of the purple kool-aide...  |
Allister Feind
V I R I I
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2007.07.16 19:09:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Gypsy Djinn
Originally by: Evil Pookie
Its rational, well thought out responses like this that are destroying CAOD.
You are correct, my bad... I mean lets be honest rational has no place in the current EVE anyway, let alone CAOD, especially in the PvP context... Thats almost as preposterous as making sure you have hardware and software capable of handling a useless added feature that anyone who can do a google search could come up with 2 better FREE options.
PvP, what a novel idea, where it use to be the main selling point of this game, now it seems to be the thorn in the game creators sides. EvE was always ranked highly by gamers for its PvP aspects, but CCP would rather us all just run missions in +.5 and talk about it on eve-voice while it takes 2 minutes for your screen to load when you undock from station or jump through a gate...
Im glad this thread has run it's course as I am sure it will be locked now as we know you can't question the Gods without the almighty lock... maybe eve-tv can have Hilmar explain to the 12 subscribers about the absolute ridiculous notion that there is unplayable lag and a desynch and about how everyone so wanted this feature and how everyone is so happy with it's implementation, to be followed by a group drinking of the purple kool-aide...
OMG!!! post with your main Jake Sisko! ooops... /me puts the cat back in the bag. 
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Cardassius
Seraphin Technologies
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.16 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Cardassius on 16/07/2007 20:33:51
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Jadajada...
I thought we were talking about corporations here?
And as I said, personal experiences! By the way I personally fought Burn Eden guys way before you even joined BE :)
BE may have great pvp pilots in their ranks, but the problem it had many ego pilots in their ranks that made BE smell like it does today :)
Oh and this is MY view on things, not my corp nor my alliance.
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