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Basilii Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:18:00 - [121] RAT.- ofc Outbreak UAI COL TAOSP Dice celes Dkod sdg MC corps Cruel Intensions corps
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:28:00 - [122] I realy do not think a gank squad can be chosen, somone with space that needs to be held and defended should be the winner. Ive ran gank squads and our kill-loss ratio was uber about 20 billion in kills to about 200 mil in losses over about 1 week. So if voting for gankers even pro's we should vote for pirates they get more kills than anybody but i do not see any on here.
Don ZOLA Caldari Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:36:00 - [123] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean I realy do not think a gank squad can be chosen, somone with space that needs to be held and defended should be the winner. Ive ran gank squads and our kill-loss ratio was uber about 20 billion in kills to about 200 mil in losses over about 1 week. So if voting for gankers even pro's we should vote for pirates they get more kills than anybody but i do not see any on here. well i said that skill only should be taken into, but people obviously dont read...
Borg017 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:39:00 - [124] Originally by: Vando I would have named Outbreak up til this weekend, when they refused to jump into us even with superior numbers and firepower. Come on guys, win me back over! Wouldn't you have just loved that? -----------------------------------------------
Kadean Gallente GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:04:00 - [125] I'd have to say: Outbreak BE Visual ID MC
Vando Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:07:00 - [126] Originally by: Borg017 Originally by: Vando I would have named Outbreak up til this weekend, when they refused to jump into us even with superior numbers and firepower. Come on guys, win me back over! Wouldn't you have just loved that? Probably not, you know you had way more people + firepower than us, right? I was cacking it, personally --
Francis Reighn Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:07:00 - [127] 1. A-War (pepperami fanboi ) 2. Outbreak 3. Celes 4. MDK 5. Burn Eden
Borg017 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:35:00 - [128] Originally by: Dave Tehsulei Edited by: Dave Tehsulei on 03/07/2007 05:11:17 I think its hard (if not impossible) for any mega corp to keep the standard up. I can't think of any sizeable corp around atm that hasnÆt made sacrifices on individual quality to pad the numbers a little. Outbreak included. Ya, individual quality is one point. But not everyone is born to pwn solo like some I know . And to those of you who question our growth, I guess it's only natural to do so. Lot's of corps have risen and broke due to saturation. But I have complete faith in leadership that they adjust and adapt as needed. This questioning also tells me that some are afraid of what we've 0utbreak has become. We're a roaming corp with the potential of becoming a bohemoth of an alliance-like entity that can dispute territory at will. And franky, I know some of you just don't want us to grow because of it. But don't worry, I don't see it happening any time soon . Like I said, sure not everyone is a solo pwnmobile but everyone is willing to go down in blaze of glory in the name of teamwork and fun. It's just that we pick up folks who do all this efficiently and with style . Mainly I'd like to point out that as a whole, 0utbreak steps up to whatever comes our way. If an enemy is willing to fight without super blobbing us and its not a trap (i.e. we're not stupid), rest assured that we'll bring it. Originally by: Marko Debreault The future will look like the past, but there will be more killmails. My sentiments exactly . -----------------------------------------------
Vando Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:40:00 - [129] Originally by: Borg017 If an enemy is willing to fight without super blobbing us and its not a trap (i.e. we're not stupid), rest assured that we'll bring it. I promise there was no trap! --
Silverized 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:44:00 - [130] MD-K (because they bring it up close and so few people are casusing so much devestation) ------------------------------
Borg017 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:46:00 - [131] Originally by: Vando Originally by: Borg017 Originally by: Vando I would have named Outbreak up til this weekend, when they refused to jump into us even with superior numbers and firepower. Come on guys, win me back over! Wouldn't you have just loved that? Probably not, you know you had way more people + firepower than us, right? I was cacking it, personally No, we didn't have way more people than you. And just because one has more fire power, doesn't really mean too much imho. Much more to it than just sheer force (although it has a lot to do with it ). Also, not making excuses, but lag was also taken into consideration with us being the ones jumping in. p.s. - WTF IS UP WITH THE LAG IN THE NORTH?!? How the **** do you guys manage to play up there? Jeebus, never seen anything like that before . -----------------------------------------------
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:59:00 - [132] Originally by: Dave Tehsulei Edited by: Dave Tehsulei on 03/07/2007 05:11:17 I think its hard (if not impossible) for any mega corp to keep the standard up. I can't think of any sizeable corp around atm that hasnÆt made sacrifices on individual quality to pad the numbers a little. Outbreak included. This is one thing I've always been mindful of in The Establishment. We have remained a very small corp (20 current members) in order to keep a tight team together and we try to be quite strict on who we let in. Thats not to say we are all solo pwnmobiles either (not counting Hera), we are actually quite a diverse bunch in terms of how we play the game which has given us a broader range of options in how we attain our goals. We might not be able to challenge Alliances on the scale of 0utbreak given our numbers, but we certainly remain a very real menace to contend with. On topic: I would have to say 0utbreak. The Establishment is at your service...
Brox alDragoran Caldari The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:01:00 - [133] MC are very good at what they do. Outbreak are also dangerous they fight hard and smart.
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:08:00 - [134] well, Ex ATUK (today DICE)
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Vaapad Shinobis Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:13:00 - [135] Best single corp I have been in combat against and feel are a cut above others...the OP's....Omniscient Order...
Vando Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:27:00 - [136] Originally by: Borg017 p.s. - WTF IS UP WITH THE LAG IN THE NORTH?!? How the **** do you guys manage to play up there? Jeebus, never seen anything like that before . That's new, its also available in the south --
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 16:50:00 - [137] Omniscient Order is hands-down the most flexible, talented group of pvp-ers I've ever had to fly against. Outside of large-fleet conflicts with interest to claim sovereignty, they are capable of executing any scale/style of combat at will. Hate 'em or not, Burn Eden have to be mentioned as well. Efficiency, efficiency, efficiency.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:07:00 - [138] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Edited by: With JudgeReinhold on 02/07/2007 08:19:49 Edited by: With JudgeReinhold on 02/07/2007 08:18:44 Originally by: Vital Efters 1v1 goonfleet could beat any corp in eve, that should be the deciding factor I take it you have never flown against Lotka Volterra. Edit: This means I am casting my vote for Lotka Volterra hEll yea LV were an alliance, not a corp. And GS and allies DID fly against them and DID destroy them....so....yea. ------------
Loocoh DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:21:00 - [139] Edited by: Loocoh on 03/07/2007 17:20:31 Originally by: Borg017 p.s. - WTF IS UP WITH THE LAG IN THE NORTH?!? How the **** do you guys manage to play up there? Jeebus, never seen anything like that before . We don¦t. Lag kills most major battles (major, as in more than 20 people involved )
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:40:00 - [140] Cult of Cthulhu, hands down. Sadly they are not around anymore :/.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:44:00 - [141] Originally by: Vando Originally by: Borg017 p.s. - WTF IS UP WITH THE LAG IN THE NORTH?!? How the **** do you guys manage to play up there? Jeebus, never seen anything like that before . That's new, its also available in the south Short and to the point and made me lmfao
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:47:00 - [142] SERA is a top pvp corp. Not often do you ask "so how many caps you guys got?" and get given the response "about 2.5 per member" There's a lot I could mention, but I don't get exceptionally impressed by corps who just wait on their engagements.. As far as I'm concerned we all can do that, good corps have to do that but to be exceptional corps need something extra to impress.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:14:00 - [143] Capital ships make a good corp do they? Interesting theory.
Deva Blackfire Citadel of dark arts	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:20:00 - [144] Originally by: welsh wizard Capital ships make a good corp do they? Interesting theory. Yeh - lets start empire war and they will PWN.. oh wait...
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:22:00 - [145] Edited by: Pepperami on 03/07/2007 18:22:26 Originally by: welsh wizard Capital ships make a good corp do they? Interesting theory. In many ways, yes, if mixed with the right type of players. But the point is, something extra takes a corp from "good" to "top", bob has it with their empire, but that's an easy pick.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:24:00 - [146] Aye you're right of course, I just don't like the bloody things. :P
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:24:00 - [147] [YACAODI1MAC] ? ------
Adam Weishaupt Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:34:00 - [148] It should be obvious that there is 'effective' PVP (gets results, captures systems) and then there is 'elite' PVP (adaptable, good and dominating even in small groups, highly skilled). Sometimes they coincide, and then you should be very afraid. This thread, I think, is more about 'elite' PVP. The inclusion of Burn Eden might seem sketchy to some, but they are very very good at what they do, and the fact they survive nearly every attempt to ambush them puts to the lie the notion that they're nothing but unskilled gatecampers. They are HIGHLY skilled gatecampers and probably very good besides. So musings aside... Eternity Inc. TAOSP The Establishment Xenobytes
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:57:00 - [149] The Establishment Great fighters and nice peeps too.
Murina Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 19:13:00 - [150] Anybody who runs a successful gank squad can look good so if you use this as a measure most 0.0 corps could win if you check there kill boards after an op. Not that outbreak or burn eden are not good at what they do. I just know that if i choose 20-40 ppl from most large alliances i could easily match there kill-loss rate. The hac, ac, cs and e-war squad in fatal has a superb kill-loss rate. But like most alliance corps mine holds space so we spend a lot of time defending our space in huge fleet ops. And not ganking solo or small gangs with t2 fitted hac's and other high end ships.

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