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Ifni
Applied Eugenics
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Posted - 2007.07.03 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Ifni on 03/07/2007 00:04:48 Of the corporations I've met I would have to list the following (that are around at present, to include older corps would triple the length of this):
Omniscient Order - Hardcore and pure. Don't make a mistake around them. The Establishment - Pushing the envelope for a long time with their Mothership. BURN EDEN - Half the time there are twice as many as it appears (NPC corp chars lawl).
Notable others, that I see in local, and revise my status accordingly;
TAOSP - usually a fleet behind them, quick check the killboard. EVOL 2.0. 0utbreak - Taken on too many 'bulk buy' deals from FIX, but the core and directorate know their stuff. Any Empire gatecamper - means I've messed up and have to rectify it quickly, before I get smartbombed.
There are, of course, supplementary to this list, the corporations I fly with, and have been a part of; DNA/AGEN, FZN, GH-SC, BNC, END. ad infinitum.
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.03 00:36:00 -
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There's a small but growing EVE-O trend here I thought I'd address.
Originally by: Evil Thug Small part of outbreak like 10% of people, during time, when they havent start to recruit everybody who : "you was + at the time while we were fix, so we will recruit you". Old hardcore triade + battle angels crew.
Originally by: Ifni 0utbreak - Taken on too many 'bulk buy' deals from FIX, but the core and directorate know their stuff.
Originally by: Kaleeb 2. Some of Outbreak
The trend is that we accepted some folks who perhaps weren't on the same level as our standard.
Let me tell you a bit about Outbreak. We get a lot of potential recruits from folks who we've fought, friends of members who like what they hear, and folks who believe the hype on EVE-O. We can pick and choose amongst them, and we do so, striving to keep a balance between growth and teamwork.
We certainly did accept a lot of folks from FIX recently. The perception that because they came from FIX, who is famous as an honorable alliance but not a pvp super-heavyweight, makes the EVE-O crowd think that those FIXies who are now in Outbreak are not at the same level, since Outbreak has the EVE-O hype as being a pvp heavyweight.
You folks know me, a bit. You can see that Outbreak is what I've built, with help from my directors and members. Knowing what you know about who I am and what Outbreaks recruitment options are, do you think I'd recruit a bunch of second rate pilots into my corporation, that I would then have to fly with? Every single person we have added to Outbreak from FIX was interviewed and vouched for, analyzed for over a month, and then added to the roster. They earned the right to be here by convincing myself and my staff that they could kill.
I'm not sleeping on the job. The future will look like the past, but there will be more killmails.
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Hamatitio
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.03 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Debreault stuff
Game. Set. Match.
Hijack this |

WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.03 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shiva Shakti
Originally by: Kaleeb Not many corps I like atm really, the ones that still stand out are: 8. ASS in the Lord Mix days
Yarr  too bad lordi ist around anymore....damn 8 heatsink nerf...>.<
I dunno whos the best or not....guess its kinda impossible to say...
---Living In Norway--- ---Made In Thailand---
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.03 01:00:00 -
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Had a nice thought out response written out and then realized it would just get misunderstood and flamed. So I decided to leave everyone with the following
UDIE.. Pretty much sums it up.
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.07.03 01:55:00 -
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Looking at some of the responses here, it saddens me to see a few of the corps that blatently lack skill, but have massive epeens that everyone knows about them.
Not mentioning any specifics, some of the corps listed may have a few good players (individuals that perhaps make movies or do a lot of solo work, and therefore have a commonly known name), but no real knowledge of tactics or strategy.
Like I said, I won't mention specifics, but to name a few examples of events that have happened regarding some of the named corps in this thread (that supposedly have skill) that prove they really don't:
One corp listed recently attacked a System-Lords 5-man gate camp with 7 BS, and two carriers. That same corp also dropped a carrier on me and one other person while we were in command ships. Another corp (after losing a 10vs12 fight in their favour) then got jumped back in to system and dropped two MOTHERSHIPS on our fleet while we were collecting loot (note that our fleet consisted of less than 5 BS and support, no capitals). That same corp spent 2 hours baiting me and another member with 4 BS (ie Command+BS vs 4 BS) but always docked, finally warping in 15... FIFTEEN ships, BS heavy, to take us out.
I have also had various run-ins with other corps listed where the lack of skill suprised me.
Just a shame really thinking about what people are basing this on. Personally, to me, taking a fleet of 21 and engaging a fleet of 44 and winning (with 8 losses and 35 kills) for example shows skill. Seeing a few people in a few videos, and judging the corp is an entirely different thing.
Latest Video, Click Here!
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Tbone
Caldari Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.03 01:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tbone on 03/07/2007 01:54:16 I have alot of respect for alot of corps. The ones i list are just my top choices.
Veto EST any corp don ZOLA is in and any corp Marko is in. Forgot to add my lovebirds from DNA also. IFNI, ONE PERCENT. -----------------------------------------------
Finite Horizon |

Ravelin Eb
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.03 01:56:00 -
[98]
aww come on SATAN, grace us with your well thought out list :(
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Cuebick
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.03 02:13:00 -
[99]
RAT. - The Red Army. They are dead serious about everything and they are the boogeymen of eve. Xenobytes - Same stop fudging with my sig :( *waves* -HornFrog |

EinaruS
Rage Academy oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.03 03:22:00 -
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criteria is a corp that has no deadweights, all players in corp would constitute really good pvpers so i guess all i can think of are Burn Eden and SAS.
there are probably more corps that have all top notch pvpers but maybe think more about just fighting than maintaining ratio, burn eden for example play really smart and therefore dont engage when there is much doubt (i'm sorry im not flaming you guys, you often engage incredible odds)
as for corps that you've named like outbreak and taosp i think they're too big for you to be able to state they have highest average skill(although i can't be sure they aren't either), obviously very effective but still probably some low skilled ones. if there's someone good at the helm that person or those people can almost nullify a couple of "deadweights".
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A finger...especially the middle one, is worth more than any amount of isk |

Cartiff
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.03 03:34:00 -
[101]
thx for the E-R mention welsh, we had great fights. CELES are kool.
E-R is dead, but most of the original members live on in shiny alliance, so we're still about, still flying with the same people, just with a shinier banner :)
As for my list..
Omninicient order (spelling) Outbreak - cos theres ex E-R in it :) Cartel Alliance - good lads
oooh Shiny!!!
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" |

Wesley Baird
Ever Flow FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.03 04:40:00 -
[102]
Of the ones I have faced, MDK and Burn Eden are both awesome, and garner my complete respect.
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Dave Tehsulei
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.03 05:12:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Dave Tehsulei on 03/07/2007 05:11:17 I think its hard (if not impossible) for any mega corp to keep the standard up. I can't think of any sizeable corp around atm that hasnĘt made sacrifices on individual quality to pad the numbers a little. Outbreak included.
My short list of best corps "evah!" has gotten even shorter lately a lot my old favourites have died and reformed and died again each time loosing a bit of their former glory - then again I could be wrong .
DNA - go back to using the old name its much better! The Establishment - its always fun running away from that nyx  Omniscient order - always deserve a mention, time has been rough on the corp but they are still top notch (not sure I like all the new faces).
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Darpz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.03 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Debreault There's a small but growing EVE-O trend here I thought I'd address.
Originally by: Evil Thug Small part of outbreak like 10% of people, during time, when they havent start to recruit everybody who : "you was + at the time while we were fix, so we will recruit you". Old hardcore triade + battle angels crew.
Originally by: Ifni 0utbreak - Taken on too many 'bulk buy' deals from FIX, but the core and directorate know their stuff.
Originally by: Kaleeb 2. Some of Outbreak
The trend is that we accepted some folks who perhaps weren't on the same level as our standard.
Let me tell you a bit about Outbreak. We get a lot of potential recruits from folks who we've fought, friends of members who like what they hear, and folks who believe the hype on EVE-O. We can pick and choose amongst them, and we do so, striving to keep a balance between growth and teamwork.
We certainly did accept a lot of folks from FIX recently. The perception that because they came from FIX, who is famous as an honorable alliance but not a pvp super-heavyweight, makes the EVE-O crowd think that those FIXies who are now in Outbreak are not at the same level, since Outbreak has the EVE-O hype as being a pvp heavyweight.
You folks know me, a bit. You can see that Outbreak is what I've built, with help from my directors and members. Knowing what you know about who I am and what Outbreaks recruitment options are, do you think I'd recruit a bunch of second rate pilots into my corporation, that I would then have to fly with? Every single person we have added to Outbreak from FIX was interviewed and vouched for, analyzed for over a month, and then added to the roster. They earned the right to be here by convincing myself and my staff that they could kill.
I'm not sleeping on the job. The future will look like the past, but there will be more killmails.
outbreak to me will always represent the fix that I fought before fix lost its way. (they lost there way somewhere between the Coalition vs Fix War and the CODA Wars)
Now I just wish you would jump into us and give us a fight next time were on opposit sides of a gate :P
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Raham
Teeth Of The Hydra R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.03 05:41:00 -
[105]
The most fear inspiring corps for me:
Rage and terror, some of the best pvpers I've ever fought against
The Establishment, didn't even know who they were until my nighthawk got nyx-ganked. I watch more carefully now 
Outbreak, they're just very good at killing people
Burn eden, great stats tho controversial methods
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Logi3
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.03 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Logi3 on 03/07/2007 08:26:54 Other then VETO i would say Snigg. One time sticks to mind was a small - mid size gang of Inty's, HACs, Cruisers and 2 BS's flying under Shamis on our usual killing patrol looking for KOS etc
Well, i was scouting. I reported what i seen and the decision was made to go in after them, but they jumped. so, we all jumped in and jumped to the nexto gate and jumped on contact, a bit hasty. But, we sat under cloak and out numbered, not by a massive amount. Say we had 10 they had 15, more HACs and 2 more BS's.
Order was given to stay cloaked while Shamis quickly organised who was doing what and who was primary, secondery etc.
Within 45 seconds everyone knew what to do and we uncloaked and proceeded to rape, to make things more interesting. Some others warped in after most of there fleet, Domi, Zealot and Sac i think. But, 0 losess on our side.
Great Leadership Great Communication Goreat Organisation
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.03 09:07:00 -
[107]
-ASCN -KOS -xelas -fatal -sparta -soul of fountain
truly fearsome alliances
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Eamz
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 09:09:00 -
[108]
CELES ATUK DNA Tundragons BE
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.07.03 09:23:00 -
[109]
Quote: Infinitus Odium for low security warfare.
That's what you guys are calling gate-camps nowadays? Low-sec warfare? LOL! _________________________________________________________
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.03 09:24:00 -
[110]
Spartan Industries RAT TAOSP
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Vando
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.03 09:47:00 -
[111]
Originally by: mazzilliu -ASCN -KOS -xelas -fatal -sparta -soul of fountain
truly fearsome alliances
But mazz! This is about corps! 
My own (serious) picks would be:
RAT - hell I'd be scared to fight WITH these guys with ET in charge  Chaos Reborn - because CERTAIN PEOPLE would complain if I didn't name them  DKOD - hey BH 
I would have named Outbreak up til this weekend, when they refused to jump into us even with superior numbers and firepower. Come on guys, win me back over! 
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Ace101
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.03 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: tEvEy FIRMA FTW
firma is dkod 
Brute Force Film |

SephiriotH
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.03 11:48:00 -
[113]
For the ones I fought against , most "adrenaline" memories goes to :
1. Finfleet . 2. Burn Eden . 3. BDCI .
Remember : With a bad word and good torpedo you are always hurting more then with a bad word alone. |

heavyg
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.03 11:48:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Darpz Now I just wish you would jump into us and give us a fight next time were on opposit sides of a gate :P [/quote
After you good sir :)
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Chantary
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.03 11:50:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Jack Archer Lotka Voltera, Rens911, Goonfleet boyaa~
Rens 911 are just some random exploiters as my corp saw yesterday
Section XIII, RKK, BE...and one corp of RA i can't remember the name of
----------------------------------------------- When the opposing team has the ball on your five yard line, arguing about what kind of beer is being drunk in the parking lot is stupid |

Endeva
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:36:00 -
[116]
atuk
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Bionicle
Minmatar ShadowTec Inc. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:38:00 -
[117]
I know, just active corps...but i couldnt resist and just list RONA-Kia from back in the days. Some of the old-timers might remember them. Again I know, im biased because i was with them but damn, was lots of fun up in the north.
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Rutoo
Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:42:00 -
[118]
A Top PvP Corp is one is not afraid to lose their ships.
To Many "PvP" Corps Run away when against the odds.
That being said if you see a IEEX Only Gang we are prepared to die. _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
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Chib
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:49:00 -
[119]
Xenobytes -(creamster,dewie good pvp'rs) MASS -(some of the oldest eve players i know) BE -(love em or hate em they are the kings of gank.....would like to see em try hold space tho) COL - (good guys amazing pvp'rs, at least the COL i knw anyways)
and can i get some clarification that SERA who joined MC are the same ex-SA SERA ran by LD who left to create -V- alliance? ---------------------------------------------
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gaaksel
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:52:00 -
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1.) Outbreak 2.) RAT 3.) Omniscient Order
All of the above are corps that bring a fight without waiting for a 200man blob and are fun to fight. These are the ones i get excited when i see them in local.
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