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Rylet VanDorn Pastafarians	Posted - 2007.07.03 03:03:00 - [1] Edited by: Rylet VanDorn on 03/07/2007 03:05:17 Edited by: Rylet VanDorn on 03/07/2007 03:04:22 As of 03:00 Server time, the Novus Ordos Seclorum alliance has been disbanded, as arranged with all those involved. The past months have been fraught with apathy, and attempts at cobbling the alliance together into something formidable, but these attempts have failed. It has existed as a group of individuals simply co-habitating in space, rather than a single cohesive unit. As the only volunteer to act as executor during NOS' final days, I have performed my duties and disbanded the alliance. My thanks to CVA for the support they provided NOS during the 10 months my corp has been apart of NOS, and living in the providence region.
sai'l et SWING KINGS	Posted - 2007.07.03 03:19:00 - [2] Edited by: sai''l et on 03/07/2007 03:20:10 1st... wait a minute. this threat is not interesting. on a serious note... where will you be moving to so that everyone in eve know where to go when they want easy kills.?? The King.
INZi coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.03 03:21:00 - [3] gl in whatever you do nos
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.03 03:54:00 - [4] Honestly surprised that it even lasted this long, although from what I understand few - if any - of the original corps are left. Well, good luck to the remnants wherever they end up, I suppose. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Gegi Wau Minmatar Liberty Labs	Posted - 2007.07.03 07:31:00 - [5] So NOS has finally been nerfed? Sorry, couldn't help it. Good luck, and all that. AMARRES EUNT DOMUS
Amith Silvermoon The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 07:33:00 - [6] Bye Bye Pos monkeys ---------- Everyday Combat - A Littlest Hobos Movie
La Vittoria 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 08:42:00 - [7] Had some good fights. Gl
Syrin SouthStar Business Solutions Inc. The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.07.03 08:59:00 - [8] One less Blue to call on.. guess ill have to shoot Hobos without you GL in whatever you do. Image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected]) Not anymore it Isnt :P
Kebabski Minmatar Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.03 09:04:00 - [9] we've had some nice ganks GL in the future
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.03 09:47:00 - [10] Originally by: sai'l et Edited by: sai''l et on 03/07/2007 03:20:10 1st... wait a minute. this threat is not interesting. on a serious note... where will you be moving to so that everyone in eve know where to go when they want easy kills.?? The King. what a ******... GL nos in whatever you do. \m/ Metal Head \m/
Mactire Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.07.03 09:57:00 - [11] Fly safe and good luck wherever you end up. Mac
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 10:21:00 - [12] Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/07/2007 10:20:24 One down. Two to go. PS - anyone want to take bets on the next POS-loving alliance in Providence to disband ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 10:34:00 - [13] so long and thanks for the cod Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.03 10:44:00 - [14] I for one am very saddened about the passing of NOS as they did contribute to the character of Providence in their own way. NOS was at its peak shortly after it was created. For those who don't remember NOS was formed by those Huzzah corps who wished to remain in Providence when Hans Roaming was expanding Huzzah out into Catch. When Huzzah eventually collapsed some of Huzzah's more capable PvP corps joined NOS and the alliance was at its strongest during this period and relations with CVA were very good during this period. However, many of the NOS PvPers drifted off to other alliances leaving NOS severely weakened in the PvP stakes. Gradually CVA and NOS relations began to get strained, primarily because NOS recruited at least one known macro NPC corp. CVA issued NOS with an ultimatum to remove said macro corp and their response was very poor (from our perspective) although the corp was eventually evicted. This brought CVA / NOS relations to a low point and indeed behind the scenes NOS had opened negotiations with Ushra'khan, the Minmatar terrorists and long term enemies of CVA, to put a NAP in place. Obviously, we in CVA were not impressed about this, however as our philosophy has always been to let people operate in Providence provided they were not pirating or actively assisting the Minnies we did not take any steps against NOS. However, many NOS/HUZZAH old timers who had moved on from the alliance were dismayed to hear about what was happening in their old alliance and without any prompting from us launched an attack on NOS. Within a week the NOS 'appeasers' had capitulated and a more CVA friendly leadership was reinstated within the alliance. Relations from that time improved although CVA did not have many direct dealings with NOS who did their own thing in the QBL pocket without interfence from us and they generally stayed out of the CVA/UK war. However, unbeknownst to us the Minmatar terrorists had been scouting QBL and were under the (false)impression that CVA and NOS were collaborating on some huge 'project' in that area. As a result they decided to attack NOS and launched an assault on one of their strategic systems - attacking a NOS POS. With its weakened military NOS couldn't effectively fight off this attack on their own but fortunately a CVA (and allied Amarrian fleet) was in the area and we managed to break into the system (Afer a big fight at gate) and then killed on Ushra'khan dreadnought at the POS (which was saved). Over the next few days Ushra'khan erected 3 more POS in the system but these were destroyed by CVA/NOS forces. After the attack on QBL CVA/NOS relations were once again very strong and NOS began to once again play a more active role against Ushra'khan and indeed sent some forces to assist CVA in our attacks on the Minmatar Outpost systems of QR and 9UY. I am not aware of the internal politics of NOS so I do not know what has lead to their eventual decision to fold but what I do know is that many of their corps will be remaining in the area and continuing to work with CVA to bring law and order to holy Amarrian Providence. I salute NOS for their contribution to the region. While they may not have been the most capable PvP alliance they were generally decent folk and like Huzzah before them certainly have their place in Providence history! o7 ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.03 10:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/07/2007 10:20:24 One down. Two to go. PS - anyone want to take bets on the next POS-loving alliance in Providence to disband And once again Butter takes credit for something that had nothing to do with him... Seriously mate, your piratical band is reasonably good at what it does but in the grand scheme of things has about as much effect as a gnat biting a rhino. Yes you have some good PvPers, yes you can be quite effective in small gang and yes even a threat to lone travellers wandering around Providence, but to imply that you deserve some kind of credit for NOS disbanding is stretching it a little. The alliance has just stated that they are dead. Why spit on their grave? Even if you thought they were POS huggers there really is no need to continue smacking them... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Torm Ilmater No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.03 10:53:00 - [16] I still think back fondly on the old Huzzah occasionally and I wish any of those I flew with back then nothing but the best of luck in future endeavors.
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/07/2007 10:20:24 One down. Two to go. PS - anyone want to take bets on the next POS-loving alliance in Providence to disband And once again Butter takes credit for something that had nothing to do with him... Seriously mate, your piratical band is reasonably good at what it does but in the grand scheme of things has about as much effect as a gnat biting a rhino. Yes you have some good PvPers, yes you can be quite effective in small gang and yes even a threat to lone travellers wandering around Providence, but to imply that you deserve some kind of credit for NOS disbanding is stretching it a little. The alliance has just stated that they are dead. Why spit on their grave? Even if you thought they were POS huggers there really is no need to continue smacking them... And where exactly did I claim credit for anything? I was simply stating a fact. There are three alliances in Providence we want to see disband because we think they contribute nothing to the area other than macro-rat and hide in POS. One just did. So I repeat: One down. Two to go. Its a statement of fact, not me claiming credit for anything. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:06:00 - [18] Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Fwaatcha Caldari Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:22:00 - [19] whos next?
Amith Silvermoon The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Hardin Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... Like we will give infomation like that away. TBH butter said more than he should have. /me get ping pong paddle out to give butter his punishment ---------- Everyday Combat - A Littlest Hobos Movie
Ace101 Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:26:00 - [21] lol butterface, back to zxic with you! Brute Force Film
Major Stallion Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:33:00 - [22] o7 NOS...Although my stay in NOS a few months back was brief, it was somewhat fun. Sorry to see another alliance fold. Good luck in whatever you all get up to!
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Hardin Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... il tell you if you promish to come to the next gankaton Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
nickycakes Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:48:00 - [24] As far as I can remember NOS was formed by a bunch of carebears from huzzah who had a failure of a dream to build an outpost to mine ice in providence while huzzah was getting steamrolled. NOS got steamrolled, so people decided to leave for D2, which got steamrolled, and I'm sure the trend continues. The alliance at one point was chock full of ebay macro isk farmers who practically patented the cloaking/logging raven. I'm surprised the alliance lasted more than a month, but it is providence, after all. ---
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:48:00 - [25] Originally by: Amith Silvermoon Originally by: Hardin Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... Like we will give infomation like that away. TBH butter said more than he should have. /me get ping pong paddle out to give butter his punishment Why is it giving information away? I am just interested to see who it is that you think doesn't 'contribute' anything to the area. My guesses would by Sylph and CVA who coincidentally happen to be the people who shoot you on sight. I am also interested in what exactly it is that BUM contributes to the area other than ganking unwary NPCers and the occasional hauler? ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 12:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Amith Silvermoon Originally by: Hardin Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... Like we will give infomation like that away. TBH butter said more than he should have. /me get ping pong paddle out to give butter his punishment Why is it giving information away? I am just interested to see who it is that you think doesn't 'contribute' anything to the area. My guesses would by Sylph and CVA who coincidentally happen to be the people who shoot you on sight. I am also interested in what exactly it is that BUM contributes to the area other than ganking unwary NPCers and the occasional hauler? We're NBSI, anyone not blue to us with any sense shoots us on sight. :P While we may not like CVA, we do have respect for them and they do contribute to the area. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Amith Silvermoon The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 12:21:00 - [27] Edited by: Amith Silvermoon on 03/07/2007 12:20:52 Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Amith Silvermoon Originally by: Hardin Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... Like we will give infomation like that away. TBH butter said more than he should have. /me get ping pong paddle out to give butter his punishment Why is it giving information away? I am just interested to see who it is that you think doesn't 'contribute' anything to the area. My guesses would by Sylph and CVA who coincidentally happen to be the people who shoot you on sight. I am also interested in what exactly it is that BUM contributes to the area other than ganking unwary NPCers and the occasional hauler? Giving to much infomation to CVA is just plan bad. I respected you as a pvp force and you guys have the will and the people to throw a very large spanner in the works. And no i dont see CVA as alliance that doesn't 'contribute' to the area infact its that other way around. As for BUM 'contribute' to the area, both BUM and CVA have diffrent objectives. Your is a RP objective the goal is to turn the area into a Amarr control space. While ours is still fuzzy around the edges but its getting there. ---------- Everyday Combat - A Littlest Hobos Movie
Torm Ilmater No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.03 12:22:00 - [28] Originally by: nickycakes As far as I can remember NOS was formed by a bunch of carebears from huzzah who had a failure of a dream to build an outpost to mine ice in providence while huzzah was getting steamrolled. NOS got steamrolled, so people decided to leave for D2, which got steamrolled, and I'm sure the trend continues. The alliance at one point was chock full of ebay macro isk farmers who practically patented the cloaking/logging raven. I'm surprised the alliance lasted more than a month, but it is providence, after all. If I remember correctly it was a while prior to Huzzah getting "steamrolled." Maybe not though it has been a while since then and my memory does get fuzzy with age.
Dionisius Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.07.03 12:48:00 - [29] Best of luck in your next endeavours guys. _______________________ Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.
Oli4Oli4 Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.03 12:55:00 - [30] I can still remember the dedication some NOS members had. We went into there space a branch of with only one way out with one inty and two af's. After we killed a Maelstrom they camped us in for 2 days in a row (fulltime). Was realy the best dedicatoin i ever saw to get some gankers. Cheers to all who lived in that place in providence and good luck to you all
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.03 12:58:00 - [31] Originally by: Amith Silvermoon Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Amith Silvermoon Originally by: Hardin Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... Like we will give infomation like that away. TBH butter said more than he should have. /me get ping pong paddle out to give butter his punishment Why is it giving information away? I am just interested to see who it is that you think doesn't 'contribute' anything to the area. My guesses would by Sylph and CVA who coincidentally happen to be the people who shoot you on sight. I am also interested in what exactly it is that BUM contributes to the area other than ganking unwary NPCers and the occasional hauler? Giving to much infomation to CVA is just plan bad. I respected you as a pvp force and you guys have the will and the people to throw a very large spanner in the works. And no i dont see CVA as alliance that doesn't 'contribute' to the area infact its that other way around. As for BUM 'contribute' to the area, both BUM and CVA have diffrent objectives. Your is a RP objective the goal is to turn the area into a Amarr control space. While ours is still fuzzy around the edges but its getting there. Hehe okay. I see BUM has at least one natural diplomat onboard. See you in space ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:00:00 - [32] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Amith Silvermoon Originally by: Hardin Out of interest who are your other 'targets' then... Like we will give infomation like that away. TBH butter said more than he should have. /me get ping pong paddle out to give butter his punishment Why is it giving information away? I am just interested to see who it is that you think doesn't 'contribute' anything to the area. My guesses would by Sylph and CVA who coincidentally happen to be the people who shoot you on sight. I am also interested in what exactly it is that BUM contributes to the area other than ganking unwary NPCers and the occasional hauler? Funny. And you're wrong in your assumptions about our targets, we like having CVA around and it would be stupid to say you don't contribute to the area. You're an integral part of Providence and a valued one (as a friend or a foe). Talking of NPCer ganking, why don't you ask UCE and Sylph what happened when they actually fitted for PVP and engaged us two days ago 60 v 10? ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:28:00 - [33] Quote: I see BUM has at least one natural diplomat onboard. i feel hurt now i am a born diplomat Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:33:00 - [34] Better idea, why don't people remain on topic. This is not about various egos and posturing. Good fortune to you NOS people, have fun.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:36:00 - [35] Originally by: nickycakes As far as I can remember NOS was formed by a bunch of carebears from huzzah who had a failure of a dream to build an outpost to mine ice in providence while huzzah was getting steamrolled. NOS got steamrolled, so people decided to leave for D2, which got steamrolled, and I'm sure the trend continues. The alliance at one point was chock full of ebay macro isk farmers who practically patented the cloaking/logging raven. I'm surprised the alliance lasted more than a month, but it is providence, after all. wow What a horrible little person... your corp must be proud of you representing them in this way o/ NOS I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Vantras Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:39:00 - [36] Well this in fact marks the final end of the remnants of Huzzah. Thats probably the biggest news. The NOS Alliance as its been for the past several months has been pretty quiet. But at one point there was a solid attempt at building a decent mixed pvp/industrial alliance for those Huzzah's that had no interest in the blob politics of Catch. It was a good goal-it just suffered from a lack of dedicated leadership. NOS for what you tried to do early on you have my respect but it certainly was time to close up shop. I wish you luck and for all us Huzzah almun-HUZZAH! HUZZAH! Vantras Amarr Victor
Mortecai Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:12:00 - [37] Originally by: Vantras Well this in fact marks the final end of the remnants of Huzzah. Thats probably the biggest news. The NOS Alliance as its been for the past several months has been pretty quiet. But at one point there was a solid attempt at building a decent mixed pvp/industrial alliance for those Huzzah's that had no interest in the blob politics of Catch. <snipped> I wish you luck and for all us Huzzah almun-HUZZAH! HUZZAH! Final end of remnants of Huzzah? Not so fast sonny. Lot of remnants around U know + the old ghost itself. No Quarter still alive and pretty kicking by the looks of their kb and and Huzzah is doing just fine and dandy away from blob politics and enjoying the game without any political aspirations or claims. Makes this gaming experience feel fun again and not work, something that has made many quit or give up, just like NOS here. Can't say I know many of you, but hope you drop by and we have some fun pew pew. Good luck wherever you will land.
Torm Ilmater No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:40:00 - [38] Originally by: Mortecai Originally by: Vantras Well this in fact marks the final end of the remnants of Huzzah. Thats probably the biggest news. The NOS Alliance as its been for the past several months has been pretty quiet. But at one point there was a solid attempt at building a decent mixed pvp/industrial alliance for those Huzzah's that had no interest in the blob politics of Catch. <snipped> I wish you luck and for all us Huzzah almun-HUZZAH! HUZZAH! Final end of remnants of Huzzah? Not so fast sonny. Lot of remnants around U know + the old ghost itself. No Quarter still alive and pretty kicking by the looks of their kb and and Huzzah is doing just fine and dandy away from blob politics and enjoying the game without any political aspirations or claims. Makes this gaming experience feel fun again and not work, something that has made many quit or give up, just like NOS here. Can't say I know many of you, but hope you drop by and we have some fun pew pew. Good luck wherever you will land. Exactly. No Quarter. (a corp originally formed from several ex-Huzzah corps) is still going strong (and growing at a decent rate) so I know that at least this remnant of Huzzah is going strong. :) Haven't run into the ol' alliance wherever she may be nowadays but we'll always carry that Huzzah spirit. :)
Ugleb Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Hardin This brought CVA / NOS relations to a low point and indeed behind the scenes NOS had opened negotiations with Ushra'khan, the Minmatar terrorists and long term enemies of CVA, to put a NAP in place. Obviously, we in CVA were not impressed about this, however as our philosophy has always been to let people operate in Providence provided they were not pirating or actively assisting the Minnies we did not take any steps against NOS. However, many NOS/HUZZAH old timers who had moved on from the alliance were dismayed to hear about what was happening in their old alliance and without any prompting from us launched an attack on NOS. Within a week the NOS 'appeasers' had capitulated and a more CVA friendly leadership was reinstated within the alliance. The extent of 'behind the scenes negotaitions' was that NOS, whom had inherited a poor relationship with the Ushra'Khan by carrying over their Huzzah diplomatic standings to their new alliance, decided that they wanted us to stop shooting at them. So they renounced slavery and we removed their red standings. the dicussion would have looked something like this: NOS - We want neutral. Ushra - Ok, renounce slavery and we'll call it quits. NOS - Ok. And that's the lot. No mutual promises, alliances, drawing closer or anything at all substantial. Their IGS announcement was retracted very shortly afterwards which pretty much killed any likely trust we might have placed in them going forwards and from that day on firmly put them in the slaver camp. Originally by: Hardin Relations from that time improved although CVA did not have many direct dealings with NOS who did their own thing in the QBL pocket without interfence from us and they generally stayed out of the CVA/UK war. However, unbeknownst to us the Minmatar terrorists had been scouting QBL and were under the (false)impression that CVA and NOS were collaborating on some huge 'project' in that area. As a result they decided to attack NOS and launched an assault on one of their strategic systems - attacking a NOS POS. With its weakened military NOS couldn't effectively fight off this attack on their own but fortunately a CVA (and allied Amarrian fleet) was in the area and we managed to break into the system (Afer a big fight at gate) and then killed on Ushra'khan dreadnought at the POS (which was saved). Over the next few days Ushra'khan erected 3 more POS in the system but these were destroyed by CVA/NOS forces. After the attack on QBL CVA/NOS relations were once again very strong and NOS began to once again play a more active role against Ushra'khan and indeed sent some forces to assist CVA in our attacks on the Minmatar Outpost systems of QR and 9UY. We have had a very long history of shotting at each other, QBL was no new thing. NOS setting up a pos 2 jumps away from Unity station in the Assah corridor months earlier is a prime example. The QBL offensive was targetting an industrial build up that we had spotted, at the time we thought that it could be preparations for an outpost. We did not think it was a joint project with CVA, but we did think it highly likely that CVA would come to the defence of NOS. The surprise was all the other people and the size of the response. I don't know why there was such a large Amarr coalition fleet on the move that night but it was a very swift and strong response. Still, it was well worth a shot. I'm just glad to see an old supporter of slavery and long time enemy alliance meet its end. Good bye NOS, the war goes on.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.03 16:10:00 - [40] Originally by: Ugleb The QBL offensive was targetting an industrial build up that we had spotted, at the time we thought that it could be preparations for an outpost. We did not think it was a joint project with CVA, but we did think it highly likely that CVA would come to the defence of NOS. The surprise was all the other people and the size of the response. I don't know why there was such a large Amarr coalition fleet on the move that night but it was a very swift and strong response. Thank you for the correction. My impression (gathered to talking to various people in UK at that time) was that they thought that there was some kind of CVA involvement - but it was a while a go so I could be wrong. In terms of the swift reaction I believe it was because we had a fleet harassing Imperial Order in the Dital area which we had started to move home because we had reports of a largish 15/20ish pirate gang in the R3 area - can't remember if it was AAA or some other group. Anyway we moved the fleet home and then discovered another incoming Imperial Order fleet (which I was informed was meant to have been a distraction to CVA while you attacked NOS). However because we had by now a largish fleet already assembled the Imperial Order gang had to safespot and then we had a very fast reaction from other people who came down to help... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Black Necris Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.03 16:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Ugleb The QBL offensive was targetting an industrial build up that we had spotted, at the time we thought that it could be preparations for an outpost. We did not think it was a joint project with CVA, but we did think it highly likely that CVA would come to the defence of NOS. The surprise was all the other people and the size of the response. I don't know why there was such a large Amarr coalition fleet on the move that night but it was a very swift and strong response. Thank you for the correction. My impression (gathered to talking to various people in UK at that time) was that they thought that there was some kind of CVA involvement - but it was a while a go so I could be wrong. In terms of the swift reaction I believe it was because we had a fleet harassing Imperial Order in the Dital area which we had started to move home because we had reports of a largish 15/20ish pirate gang in the R3 area - can't remember if it was AAA or some other group. Anyway we moved the fleet home and then discovered another incoming Imperial Order fleet (which I was informed was meant to have been a distraction to CVA while you attacked NOS). However because we had by now a largish fleet already assembled the Imperial Order gang had to safespot and then we had a very fast reaction from other people who came down to help... Ppl shoulnt care much on what Hardin has to say... he will always make a huge speech with dates and numbers that only seem right on CVA eyes, and since thats the truth to them whatever other statement its false, i suggest we just ignore him. "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
Rylet VanDorn Pastafarians	Posted - 2007.07.03 16:17:00 - [42] Edited by: Rylet VanDorn on 03/07/2007 16:17:24 Honestly the most accurate statement about the situation that can be made is "We saw this coming". Anyone who knew the area knew that the alliance was essentially a joke for at least the last 6 months. Macro ratters, industrialists, people spending all their time up in empire... there really was no reason for the alliance to exist except for the fact that the name entitled us to the space we lived in. From my perspective, the whole situation with NAPing UK was spurred by sympathizers... people who wanted to rebel against CVA. I don't know if these people ultimately joined the alliance with this in mind, but whatever the case, it happened. Once the rest of NOS woke up and spoke out against being CVA's enemy, those people chose to leave the alliance, and ended up showing their true colors. Whatever the case, the only way NOS would have been resurrected was if a strong leader emerged, willing to put the time and effort into cutting the fat off, recruiting promising corps, and rebuilding the alliance's reputation. None of those who volunteered for leadership were willing or able (due to RL commitments, etc) to put that time and effort in, and as such, the alliance has drifted away. Being one who believes in closure and putting dying things out of their misery (I've had to do this before with a WoW Raiding guild)... I have essentially euthanized NOS. = )
Torm Ilmater No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:18:00 - [43] Originally by: Rylet VanDorn Whatever the case, the only way NOS would have been resurrected was if a strong leader emerged, willing to put the time and effort into cutting the fat off, recruiting promising corps, and rebuilding the alliance's reputation. That's essentially the same situation that Huzzah was in prior to Hans Roaming taking over. Thankfully Hans gave it his all for quite a while and brought Huzzah to a level we didn't think was possible. Lub ya Hans.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:59:00 - [44] Originally by: Torm Ilmater Originally by: Rylet VanDorn Whatever the case, the only way NOS would have been resurrected was if a strong leader emerged, willing to put the time and effort into cutting the fat off, recruiting promising corps, and rebuilding the alliance's reputation. That's essentially the same situation that Huzzah was in prior to Hans Roaming taking over. Thankfully Hans gave it his all for quite a while and brought Huzzah to a level we didn't think was possible. Lub ya Hans. Thanks for the kind words but I was really just the public face, it was really the members who did everything and the best legacy of Huzzah is that people got out of the sandbox that is Providence and have had adventures new. Even Huzzah has come back to life and is currently enjoying itself in syndicate.
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.03 19:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Black Necris Ppl shoulnt care much on what Hardin has to say... he will always make a huge speech with dates and numbers that only seem right on CVA eyes, and since thats the truth to them whatever other statement its false, i suggest we just ignore him. Yeah, it's called 'spin' and Hardin is very good at it. If he claims something (which is either an assumption or plain untrue) and you factually correct him, he just ignores you. Which is fine, I ignore people who correct me too ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.03 19:43:00 - [46] Farewell Nos, and good luck with where you go next. It has been quite interesting to watch your alliance over the last year. And I must echo Pezzle: Quote: Better idea, why don't people remain on topic. This is not about various egos and posturing. Good fortune to you NOS people, have fun. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Jobie Thickburger Gallente Condottieri Industries	Posted - 2007.07.03 20:42:00 - [47] We had our rough spats, but the pilots in NOS were some of the best Guy's I've flown with. Best of luck to you in the future! CEO, Condottieri Industries
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.03 21:09:00 - [48] Edited by: Hardin on 03/07/2007 21:10:24 Originally by: Butter Dog Yeah, it's called 'spin' and Hardin is very good at it. Despite my reputation as 'the chin with the spin' I do not actually spin. I merely give our side of the story and correct misunderstandings and misperceptions that have either been spread deliberately or accidentally. Originally by: Butter Dog If he claims something (which is either an assumption or plain untrue) and you factually correct him, he just ignores you. Which is fine, I ignore people who correct me too If you had actually read what I had posted above (because clearly Black Necris was merely having a pop and handn't read my response to Ugleb either) then you would see that I actually thanked him for the correction - which is hardly ignoring it. Unlike some I do strive for accuracy but will admit when I have clearly got my facts wrong which does happen sometimes. I am only Amarr after all But thanks once again for your input on the issue Butter! Anyway getting this thread back on topic - best wishes to all former NOS pilots. ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2007.07.03 21:13:00 - [49] o/ NOS POS Huggers extraordinaire, Logoffski/cloaking Macro Ratters FTL. Love the loot tho :) Where are you moving too?
Nukeseus Caldari Condottieri Industries	Posted - 2007.07.03 21:19:00 - [50] Always was fun down in NOS and CVA. Lost alot of ships, paid out the same to the enemy. Best of luck to all those corps and pilots!
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.03 22:02:00 - [51] Originally by: sai'l et on a serious note... where will you be moving to so that everyone in eve know where to go when they want easy kills.?? The King.[/quote They are still there. Libertas Fidelitas is the new alliance as far as I can tell.
CHAOS100 Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.03 22:30:00 - [52] I have to thank Hardin for the summary. After the long downfall of the alliance I am glad it has finally been laid to rest. I would say though that the alliance had no remnants of huzzah left in it, the old "huzzah" has since moved on, and is being carried by No Quarter and the recently re founded alliance itself. --------------
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.04 00:33:00 - [53] Originally by: CHAOS100 I have to thank Hardin for the summary. After the long downfall of the alliance I am glad it has finally been laid to rest. I would say though that the alliance had no remnants of huzzah left in it, the old "huzzah" has since moved on, and is being carried by No Quarter and the recently re founded alliance itself. 0/ Chaos, you played a pretty big part in the downfall of NOS yourself mate We were looking for targets, and when we realised that CVA and NOS were having diplomatic problems, we took the opportunity to send in gank squads. CVA did not pay us for our actions, the only thing they did, was to give us free passage through R3 to reach our targets Was fun...and to Chaos, you did a good job as FC in S9X Prov Ganks Fight that caused NOS to capitulate This is from a while ago, but it was the start of the slide Just for fun --> First few ganks I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Dev Corland BloodStorm Elite Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.07.04 01:44:00 - [54] Edited by: Dev Corland on 04/07/2007 01:44:44 Despite my leaving, there was much fun to be had in Providence during my stay with NOS. Met a lot of good people. Best of luck to you all! EDIT: Was wondering when those links were going to be posted, Flinx. Those fights were pretty fun. __ BSEL is Recruiting! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=524646
Neesa Corrinne Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2007.07.04 02:37:00 - [55] Good riddance. I heard about Transendence undocking all of his ships and self destructing them one after another. That put a huge smile on my face. I've never met a more backstabbing, suck up in my life.
Dev Corland BloodStorm Elite Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.07.04 03:00:00 - [56] Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Good riddance. I heard about Transendence undocking all of his ships and self destructing them one after another. That put a huge smile on my face. I've never met a more backstabbing, suck up in my life. ...I can't say I didn't find that a bit funny, either. Thank you for bringing that to my attention! __ BSEL is Recruiting! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=524646
Rorin Cutter Caldari KNIGHTS OF RYCHE Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.07.04 12:33:00 - [57] humm, NOS was my first alliance, but I learned a lot, but the one thing I learned most and will stay with me my entire eve life. Leadership sets the tempo, and there is no excuse for a poor alliance leadership, ever! To all my friends in the new nos (libertas Fidelitas) please remember what I said above. There is no excuse for poor leadership. Don't let them fool you again. To all my friends who moved on to better things, good luck! fly safe, -Rorin
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.04 13:51:00 - [58] Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 03/07/2007 21:10:24 Originally by: Butter Dog Yeah, it's called 'spin' and Hardin is very good at it. Despite my reputation as 'the chin with the spin' I do not actually spin. I merely give our side of the story and correct misunderstandings and misperceptions that have either been spread deliberately or accidentally. The irony dripping from this response is beyond any measurement. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.04 15:40:00 - [59] bye nos as for the comments on turning point in huzzah, well that was when huzzah war dec'd tsbs and md was leader together with jb and zarnie, but thats another story.
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.07.04 16:59:00 - [60] Wasn't that bad .. 250 members and 15 Sov systems at NOS's peak peak. You would have ranked 54th place out of 430 alliances before folding. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.04 17:09:00 - [61] Kudos to NOS, you were fun to shoot at, but you kept going and that was when you worked well with CVA. Hope you guys do as well elsewhere. Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in ~~Delve~~ Fountain...
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.04 18:17:00 - [62] Originally by: Serenity Steele Wasn't that bad .. 250 members and 15 Sov systems at NOS's peak peak. You would have ranked 54th place out of 430 alliances before folding. There's more to judging an alliance than the number of crappy low-value systems in Providence they have sov over. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Kadriel The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.04 18:36:00 - [63] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Ugleb We had reports of a largish 15/20ish pirate gang in the R3 area - can't remember if it was AAA or some other group. WTF!! We're not pirates I never remember yelling yarr when I'm in providence, nor do I recall asking for ransom. Although, I remember being offered a ransom to let someone live, but we generally just keep shooting. The first time I ran into NOS, me and a buddy were in cepters and they blobbed us quick w/ several bs's and a tackler. We killed the tackler and moved on. GL w/ whatever carebearing thing you attempt to do NOS.
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.04 18:39:00 - [64] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Serenity Steele Wasn't that bad .. 250 members and 15 Sov systems at NOS's peak peak. You would have ranked 54th place out of 430 alliances before folding. There's more to judging an alliance than the number of crappy low-value systems in Providence they have sov over. ding ding! nos had the best spot in providence, and it is still ****ty. spodumain ore, dual 1.1m spawns max.. and people wonder why the good players leave and the new players stay. providence needs a boost.
Vantras Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.04 19:00:00 - [65] Ahh...good news on a reformed Huzzah! Glad to hear you guys are doing well again! The No Quarter thing...well... Hi there Hans :) and the rest of my old Huzzah friends.
Josiah Bleak Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.07.04 20:39:00 - [66] Bye Nos - can't say I followed your progress well after the split but sorry to see things end like this. A big HUZZAH! to all the federation's old friends and enemies out there. JB
Krystian Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.05 04:50:00 - [67] Yes Huzzah and another force of it No Quarter are alive and quite well (In fact we have our own little alliance now Vae Victis). Sad to see NOS go the way they did. Good luck to the true members who faught for it and keep the Huzzah spirit alive wherver you guys are!
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.07.05 12:39:00 - [68] Just because NOS is disbanding doesn't mean we all have to be all *** and happy about it. NOS was, for as long as I had played in providence one of the worst alliances I have ever seen. They are right their in the crapper with Brotherhood of Steel and Hammer's Slammers. They have no ability to pvp, they constantly carebear, and many many of their members die every day to stupidity which NOS never really cared about. There responses to any sort of hostile action was to blob up with a few bs and then blow up; and that in itself was a rare action indeed.
Oosel Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.05 16:05:00 - [69] Edited by: Oosel on 05/07/2007 16:05:35 say what you will about providence be it rubbish for mins and spawns etc it always provides for quality entertainment and has always kept myself from becoming complacent about pirates as there is always a large contingent of them around........ having only ever been caught out by trevidian and his crew and losing a nightmare in the process it made me want to stay in providence even more just to hone my abilities at conducting daily business there..... having said all that i will be sad to see Nos disband because it now means less eyes and intel for the area
Black Necris Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.07.07 09:20:00 - [70] I really dont understand why you go and say Piwat! at every single guy who shoots at you... its dumb and its shows the lack of brains of many of this puppet corps that currently exits has. A real EVE piwat will shoot your ass till structure and then ransom your ass, or focus on killing your haulers to steal the **** our of them, on the other hand an hostile fleet will go to your doors and kill you on with an ON YOUR FACE! kinda attitude, those are only ppl flying to have fun killing nubs like Sylph NOS Hammer Slammers etc etc. Now about NOS, i feel sorry for your departure cose you where like the easiest targets around, killing you was as easy as killing a baby puppy tied up to a tree. Less killmail whoring for me. "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
mamolian M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.07.07 09:25:00 - [71] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/07/2007 10:20:24 One down. Two to go. PS - anyone want to take bets on the next POS-loving alliance in Providence to disband Sylph? All slavers must die! -------------------------------
Korizan Oort Cloud Industries	Posted - 2007.07.07 14:58:00 - [72] Fair well to NOS First off from the very beginning there was a plan to put a Station in the QBL pocket. FACT And yes for the most part the original members were highsec / lowsec corporations with one or 2 exceptions. FACT but What NOS did was to give some corps a chance to move out of high-sec / low-sec into 0.0 and stake a claim for themselves. For that they should be commended. In a time when most of 0.0 is taken and any attempt by a new alliance to take any space is squashed under the veteran alliances of 0.0. CVA allowed that to happen and they should be commended for giving NOS that chance. Now NOS did fail and was going to fail from the very beginning do to some poor internal decisions and it was only a matter of time if they where not corrected. But this is not new news as most alliances fail and in fact only a few survive the times and the challenge of 0.0 . But I am rambling. So a personnel thanks to NOS, CVA, Widowmakers for giving the corp I was in at the time a chance to see what 0.0 is like. Despite how it all turned out.
IntegralHellsing Gallente Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.07.08 14:26:00 - [73] Edited by: IntegralHellsing on 08/07/2007 14:26:47 Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/07/2007 10:20:24 One down. Two to go. PS - anyone want to take bets on the next POS-loving alliance in Providence to disband And once again Butter takes credit for something that had nothing to do with him... he thinks his epeen is fracking huge, just ignore him. --------------------------------------
SevernBannow TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:01:00 - [74] Edited by: SevernBannow on 08/07/2007 20:02:25 Originally by: CHAOS100 I have to thank Hardin for the summary. After the long downfall of the alliance I am glad it has finally been laid to rest. I would say though that the alliance had no remnants of huzzah left in it, the old "huzzah" has since moved on, and is being carried by No Quarter and the recently re founded alliance itself. I'm not even sure why I'm posting this as it is ancient history. Me and my corp don't give a crap about NOS despite being former members. In fact, they managed to annoy us so much that when we left NOS we sided with UK against CVA in order to shoot them. But what annoys me now is seeing all these people like Chaos crying, moaning, and saluting this dead horse, even after they stabbed it in the back while leading it. The founding corps of NOS, who would later make up Momentum, used alliance station funds in the billions of isk in order to buy carriers and other toys for themselves, then abandoned NOS and took the funds and the carriers with them. Of course, just like us, you also began to attack NOS and have fun with the dreads that you probably bought with their our isk. I'm not crying about that I thought it was hilarious that someone would actually bother to attack poses in providence. But anyway, the alliance that you founded never mattered to you and the people in the alliance that followed you never mattered to you. I don't know exactly what does matter to you, isk, laughs at another's expense, killmails (mmmm... killmails), exotic dancers, whatever. But don't make a public display of mourning over NOS. Just have the decency to openly spit on the grave you dug and shoved them in. /spits Do I hear the world's SMALLEST violen playing? No, its some donkey's rear blowing on a comb with wax paper over it.
CHAOS100 Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:27:00 - [75] Ok that has to be the funniest random flame attempt I have ever read... did you even read my post? i don't know what you read but link me to this whine moan fest which you appear to be re-creating in your own reply. i don't even know why you are attacking me over 'my' alliance... it was gaskin's alliance and his outpost fund, which unfortunately was a failure at the time. if you have problems I am not the one to attack... take your moaning elsewhere o/ --------------
Severn Bannow	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:50:00 - [76] Edited by: Severn Bannow on 08/07/2007 21:51:58 Edited by: Severn Bannow on 08/07/2007 21:51:01 edit My alts have such creative names.
SevernBannow TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:52:00 - [77] Edited by: SevernBannow on 08/07/2007 21:52:31 Come on now Chaos don't be like that. Take some pride in your backstabbing man. You got a carrier out of it. Thats all I'm asking. You backstabbed a whole alliance, thats really hard work and you deserve some respect. Just say it, "I bent my alliance mates over backwards and I liked it".
PunkRoadkill TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:25:00 - [78] lol, i can hear him puffing his chest from here
SevernBannow TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:36:00 - [79] Ah well lets just cut it out. If he doesn't want credit thats fine.
maihem TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.09 01:39:00 - [80] i would be upset about what Widdowmakers did still but i hear they lost all their shiny new toys when they logged off with agro during one of D2's pathetic attempts at pvp. I dont jog, it makes the ice cubes jump right out of my glass.
AcheLone Caldari Sole Survivor Agency Commonwealth Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.10 08:07:00 - [81] awww i'm to late knowing that the NOS alliance disband. To all its members, good luck for your all future business and to Libertas thingy alliance, u have my 1 man alliance support to you.... kk thanks flinx, do angry dens left your cage unlock again?
TrulyKosh Solo for UNCLE Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.10 08:52:00 - [82] Originally by: Korizan Fair well to NOS First off from the very beginning there was a plan to put a Station in the QBL pocket. FACT Farewell to NOS from the uncles as well. Just a suggestion: maybe CCP might want to consider to place one of their memorial statues on one of the moon in QBL as a constant reminder of an outpost that might never ever be build, but has been planned for years. I only invest in businesses that even a fool can run. Because some day a fool will. (Warren Buffett)
Gnarrkilly Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:04:00 - [83] Had some good times back in cva when flying alongside NOS, you guys had some good pilots sorry to see you go. tips hat ------------- Innocence proves nothing.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:08:00 - [84] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 11/07/2007 01:09:17 Originally by: maihem i would be upset about what Widdowmakers did still but i hear they lost all their shiny new toys when they logged off with agro during one of D2's pathetic attempts at pvp. err.. you heard wrong Troll Edit: @Achlone, I managed to steal the key, and make a copy I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Waltar	Posted - 2007.07.11 18:31:00 - [85] I was a part of NoS back in the SWG days on starsider. We rocked that server like no other!
BCBArclight Odessa Operations Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.11 20:26:00 - [86] RIP NOS Enjoyed my time when I was in there, It was a shame that the n00b corps as we were at the time couldnt get our foothold and do as we planned. Good Luck to the remaining corps in what ever you do. Odessa Operations are Recruiting
maihem TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.12 13:52:00 - [87] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 11/07/2007 01:09:17 Originally by: maihem i would be upset about what Widdowmakers did still but i hear they lost all their shiny new toys when they logged off with agro during one of D2's pathetic attempts at pvp. err.. you heard wrong Troll Edit: @Achlone, I managed to steal the key, and make a copy oh good, then i can continue to harbour a grudge against you Mr Scam Artist. I dont jog, it makes the ice cubes jump right out of my glass.

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