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Dalanoria
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dalanoria on 07/07/2007 05:03:09
Ive been kicked from a corp, called a BOB alt spy..Good for them thinking I have anything to do with BOB.....Unfortunetly, my tech II ships + 1 bill in mods is in theyre station, and ofcourse i was banned from docking..........
They banned me and kicked me while on a ops...How do I get my belongings back....
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Omard
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:06:00 -
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Seems petition worthy to me 
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Gorken
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Omard
Seems petition worthy to me
Aye, sounds like a scam to me.
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William Hamilton
Caldari
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:21:00 -
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You could try selling your stuff, and buying identical items elsewhere...
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:25:00 -
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bung it all on a contract for 15% less then its worth as a hanger clearout
SKUNK
Originally by: Fink Angel
They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:26:00 -
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I'm not sure that it will do any good petitioning this, as I don't see it as a scam.
I do not know the full situation, so it is perfectly possible that they have something to base their suspicions on. Besides, if the stuff is in Dalanoria's own hangar and not the corp-hangar, they will not have access to it, so getting them as part of a scam is rather pointless.
Only advise I can give you is to rejoin your corp if they ever let you, grab your stuff and get the heck out again...
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:41:00 -
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It was FREGE allianxce btw that did this.
Originally by: Fink Angel
They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:42:00 -
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The offer was made to Dalanoria to contract the items to our corp at "fair" prices and we would buy the items from the character.
The offer still stands.
PCaBoo
Communications Officer, Warmonger
DirtNapSquad
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WhitePhantom
Gallente
Edenists
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Posted - 2007.07.07 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: PCaBoo
The offer was made to Dalanoria to contract the items to our corp at "fair" prices and we would buy the items from the character.
The offer still stands.
PCaBoo
Communications Officer, Warmonger
DirtNapSquad
What if he just wants the items, for whatever reason, why should he have to sell them?
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 06:22:00 -
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It's not an option. His items are in his corp hangar and he can't dock here. He's a suspected spy and we're not going to let him come here to take his Pilgrim and undock in our space. Especially after his tirade and threats he's made against us.
We've been more than reasonable about this entire situation. I don't know what else we can do to appease Dalanoria.
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Santa Anna
Caldari
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:09:00 -
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You're exercising control of his stuff (I won't call it property) while offering him less than what he considered fair value for them on a take it or leave it basis? That's theft. He values his in-game possessions for more than he could readily sell them, otherwise they'd no longer be his possessions. Meet his price or give him his stuff.
If you don't want him in your station/in your space/etc for some other reason you should work out a way to get him his stuff somewhere in empire. Might a courier contract work for this? Regardless of what he may have done, doing this doesn't make you look good.
Alternately he could transfer control of his character to a third party you both consider trustworthy to handle moving his possessions out of your station. If he's making a big deal out of it the transfer fees shouldn't be an issue.
(My opinion, not my corp's, limited knowledge of relevant events, general disclaimer, &etc)
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Nicholas Barker
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:49:00 -
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if you suspect bob spyness but are not 100% sure, i think you should give him the benefit of the doupt and help him move out. I know if i got called a spy i'd be rather upset (in an angry kind of way, not a boohoo kind of way). It's highly possible you're driving somebody out of the game just for security reasons, and would harm nobody to let him get his stuff. Of course, if you're pretty certain who gives a ****.
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:02:00 -
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this is why soverignty (spelling) is crappy i have bought and sold things in 0.0 space and had the same issues without relising i didn't have access.
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Originally by: Chribba
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Mikal Drey
Angels and Demons
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:06:00 -
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hey hey
DONT give her stuff back, dont even accept any contract from her. If you suspect her of being a spy then you had 100% right to boot her. Its gutting i'll admit but its EvE and well within game mechanics.
If this was reversed then everyone would be screaming at you that you sould have protected your corp, assets, system etc. etc. the fact that someone actually done the right thing to protect themselves should deserve a small congrats.
Ive never done anything worthy of being kicked from my corp and if i had i would expect the kicking. Id also like to note that i also have loads of items/ships stuck in deep 0.0 stations where they have een overrun or my corp has left the alliance it belonged to.
Tbh **** happens and ya gotta deal with it. If you pettitioned and got your stuff /moved it wouldnt be fair and everyone else who has docking rights revoked or looses a station etc. etc. could automagically get their stuffÖ If you were a victim of a membership scam then id agree with you but thats about the only time i would.
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:08:00 -
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spies are smart, she if she was... was a stupid spy.
if u guna spy in bob u dont put ur belongings in their station.. i mean c'mon!
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Originally by: Chribba
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
It was FREGE allianxce btw that did this.
These guys were always a bunch of ****ers.
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:13:00 -
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Can't you put the stuff into a courier contract, then get someone else to pick it all up for you?
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:28:00 -
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There's already another topic about this in CAOD.
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Santa Anna
Caldari
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey
hey hey
DONT give her stuff back, dont even accept any contract from her. If you suspect her of being a spy then you had 100% right to boot her. Its gutting i'll admit but its EvE and well within game mechanics.
If this was reversed then everyone would be screaming at you that you sould have protected your corp, assets, system etc. etc. the fact that someone actually done the right thing to protect themselves should deserve a small congrats.
Ive never done anything worthy of being kicked from my corp and if i had i would expect the kicking. Id also like to note that i also have loads of items/ships stuck in deep 0.0 stations where they have een overrun or my corp has left the alliance it belonged to.
Tbh **** happens and ya gotta deal with it. If you pettitioned and got your stuff /moved it wouldnt be fair and everyone else who has docking rights revoked or looses a station etc. etc. could automagically get their stuffÖ If you were a victim of a membership scam then id agree with you but thats about the only time i would.
It shouldn't be petitionable, but both sides should be able to reach an understanding. FREGE has protected their corp assets/info/etc against a suspected threat. With that done, they should work with the OP to find an equitable solution. EVE is a PVP game. We rely on the good sportsmanship of our in-game "friends" and our in-game "enemies" to enjoy it. Effectively removing someone from the game cheapens it for everyone else.
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Amy Wang
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:56:00 -
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Next time install a jump clone, they cant revoke that and you can get one ship with your most valuable assets aboard out that way and set the rest of your stuff to sell on the market.
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Kesh McCall
Caldari
Galactic Science Network
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Posted - 2007.07.07 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Wang
Next time install a jump clone, they cant revoke that and you can get one ship with your most valuable assets aboard out that way and set the rest of your stuff to sell on the market.
... and then get killed and podded once she leaves the station :-)
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Rafein
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Posted - 2007.07.07 09:25:00 -
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you don;t have to undock, just put it on the market for 3 months, and jump back to old body 24 hours later. They can;t kill the clone, and you can access the, so if you do not undock, and you can use it again later, if stuff does not sell within 3 months.
Wastes a day, but still get your isk worth outta it.
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Baron Dots
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Posted - 2007.07.07 09:31:00 -
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What is wrong with you people?
LOOSING STUFF IN 0.0 STATIONS IS A REAL RISK IN PLAYING IN 0.0
If he wants them back, he should join a corp that fights to take that station.
This is normal and should be like this.
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Paigan
Amarr
Thirdwave
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Posted - 2007.07.07 09:54:00 -
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Set up a courier contract with a huge collateral.
If they deliver it, you win and they haven't had any loss.
If they keep it, you win as well.
If they don't accept the contract, they're nothing more than scammers.
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R2 D3
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.07 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Paigan
Set up a courier contract with a huge collateral.
If they deliver it, you win and they haven't had any loss.
If they keep it, you win as well.
If they don't accept the contract, they're nothing more than scammers.
nah that won't work best way is to sell them to corps/alliances/individuals there for less then market price take your loss and get to empire.
or set contract auctions for hangar clearout.
nobody sane would transport stuff from the drone regions to empire for a booted member by a contract.
might be a idea if you had members in the corp you are booted from that you still really trust to let them carier jump it up? (you can still do that by a contract but you need people in your former corp that trust you). if that is not the case...... well no other choice then sell them with a small loss.
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Santa Anna
Caldari
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.07 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Baron Dots
What is wrong with you people?
LOOSING STUFF IN 0.0 STATIONS IS A REAL RISK IN PLAYING IN 0.0
If he wants them back, he should join a corp that fights to take that station.
This is normal and should be like this.
This is why this whole thing is more than a bit silly. If he were a spy he'd be insanely stupid to put all of his assets under the thumb of the entity he is fighting against. Whatever the details are, the parties should work something out so everyone is happy. We're all adults, or at least we play them on the internet.
If he were a spy perhaps. On the other hand, if he were a spy he wouldn't have all of his stuff in that station and it wouldn't be an issue.
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Icarus Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.07 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: PCaBoo
It's not an option. His items are in his corp hangar and he can't dock here. He's a suspected spy and we're not going to let him come here to take his Pilgrim and undock in our space. Especially after his tirade and threats he's made against us.
We've been more than reasonable about this entire situation. I don't know what else we can do to appease Dalanoria.
Dalanoria? AH! Ah HA HA! The little twit that was throwing the middle finger up in local every time she saw a war target? You guys kicked her and locked down all her stuff? Oh, bloody rich hilarity there, I'll post it to our corp mail, they'll get a real laugh out of this.
I cannot imagine that she has a mil in her hangar or wallet, tho, since I never saw her in anything bigger than a nuub ship or pod (both popped nicely).
Good job, FREGE, good work there, and that coming from your enemy.
Keep her stuff locked down. :)
Oh... and yes, she is a BoB alt.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.07 11:24:00 -
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Deal with it. With BASIC trade skills you can setup sell orders from within the same system, with a few k sp in there you can do it from 5 systems out. Anything that isn't packaged you can put on a hangar clearout contract from ANYWHERE in the galaxy. Anything in 0.0 easily sells for more than in empire, except the rat loot in that specific region.
Judging by the other replies, you're not the kind of personality I would want in a corp. Good job kicking him Frege.
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente
WOLFPACK DELTA
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Posted - 2007.07.07 12:35:00 -
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Well this just made sure i wouldnt join a frege corp. This is beyond idiotic and vindictive.
Give proof or let this stuff go...Btw if this is a BOB spy you better hope it isnt a high placed one. Or maybe they will just come and take it. Honestly petition the whole friggin alliance and let the GM's sort it out. I hate BOB as much as the next guy but this kind of hit basically would make sure i hit the unsubscribe button. As for 'Fair prices' I call BS on that. Especially when you put it in quotes what you offering 1 isk per item?
Asshattery at its finest. It shows just how far some people take this game. Personally i just pod and be done with it. This is overkill and bad form. Give the player back the property and let this end.
That or if the player actually IS a bob spy just wait. Odds are you will lose the system within 2 weeks. *shrug* You people are hereby reminded its JUST A GAME. It isnt like the player was trying to remove secret documents in his PANTS or stuff. By the way frege just how many spies you got in BOB anyway? Probably more than they got in Frege i would imagine. I hope your spies arent found out. Or its likely now they will be just as vindictive... By the by...why the hell would a spy keep so much stuff at the enemy base? I mean come on!
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MissileRus
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Posted - 2007.07.07 12:50:00 -
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bad style  its a game, someone spent tons of money playing it, least you can do is let him/her move the stuff first.
who cares if the "spy" gets his/her stuff before getting kicked? going to nuke you all with some hidden DD while moving the stuff when your possibly hiding from sutch events inside a station shivering? 
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