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Heritor Caldari Polytope	Posted - 2007.07.07 12:55:00 - [31] Moral of the story is not to join not to jion paranoid allinces and never give anybody reason to be paranoid about your character Always where your seatbelt, its far harder for the aliens to abduct you!
Ketrin	Posted - 2007.07.07 13:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 07/07/2007 05:03:09 Ive been kicked from a corp, called a BOB alt spy..Good for them thinking I have anything to do with BOB.....Unfortunetly, my tech II ships + 1 bill in mods is in theyre station, and ofcourse i was banned from docking.......... They banned me and kicked me while on a ops...How do I get my belongings back.... Just make a corp then alliance then kick the **** out of them then take station then get your stuff back!
Sphynx Stormlord Gallente Anqara Tech	Posted - 2007.07.07 13:53:00 - [33] Get one of your friends in the alliance to courier your stuff out (you did make at least one friend, right?) Put them up as a contract to sell, at a discount. Or put them up with a reasonable collatral as a courier contract, and with a reward of a similar amount to the discount you would have given if you had wanted to sell stuff.
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.07.07 14:01:00 - [34] So we learn a valuable lesson. If you live in a player-owned station, always leave a jumpclone there. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve: Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
Araviel Gallente Epic.	Posted - 2007.07.07 15:11:00 - [35] Originally by: PCaBoo The offer was made to Dalanoria to contract the items to our corp at "fair" prices and we would buy the items from the character. you lowlife, you where only after getting her stuff for cheap from the start, Frege is now on our -10 list ---------- signature under construction
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 15:53:00 - [36] "fair" was to mean a "fair" profit. Almost everything in 0.0 is more expensive than empire. Some of you don't seem to have a clue about 0.0 life, so why comment on it. There is another post in CAOD and I will no longer be posting to two threads on the same subject. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 16:01:00 - [37] Originally by: PCaBoo There is another post in CAOD and I will no longer be posting to two threads on the same subject. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=552092 Edit: NVM it's locked. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.07.07 17:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Icarus Starkiller I cannot imagine that she has a mil in her hangar or wallet, tho, since I never saw her in anything bigger than a nuub ship or pod (both popped nicely). If this whole thing is a troll and OP has an ibis in station, this is epic. _____ Heat Warfare
Ga'len Amarr Wandering Druid	Posted - 2007.07.07 20:01:00 - [39] Originally by: PCaBoo It's not an option. His items are in his corp hangar and he can't dock here. He's a suspected spy and we're not going to let him come here to take his Pilgrim and undock in our space. Especially after his tirade and threats he's made against us. We've been more than reasonable about this entire situation. I don't know what else we can do to appease Dalanoria. Just a thought, take all his stuff, put it in a freighter and have him pay a relocation fee. Just a thought. Yes, I am the exception that defines the rules.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.07 20:09:00 - [40] It does not mather. If he disrespected the corp members in vent as stated, then he deserved to be kicked and loose everything! Peopel must take consequences for their actiosn and learn that you cannot offend someone and expect them to not take actions on you if its within their reach. I aplaud any decision made to punsih disrespectfull people. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Icarus Starkiller Minmatar	Posted - 2007.07.07 20:34:00 - [41] Originally by: Kagura Nikon It does not mather. If he disrespected the corp members in vent as stated, then he deserved to be kicked and loose everything! Peopel must take consequences for their actiosn and learn that you cannot offend someone and expect them to not take actions on you if its within their reach. I aplaud any decision made to punsih disrespectfull people. It's not that this sorry individual disrespected the corp in TS, she/he/it disrespected everybody she came across. Even after doing the whole 'finger' in local with several of its corpmates in a 0.0 system and they said rather point blank that it was uncalled for. So it started smacking their allies in local, and the local war targets, and anyone else who told it to shut up. So, I say FREGE did right by kicking it from the corp and they should not ever allow it anywhere near their space, much less able to pick up the few pieces of low end goods left behind. Let 'em sit in the hangar and gather dust. - Life is pain...anyone who says differently is selling something.
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.07 20:36:00 - [42] Im feeling really vindictive all of a sudden, I think maybe its time for my lunch. Anyway, what Id do assuming you werent a bob spy and just feel prey to some bull** alliance paranoia is make a new char, put it in their alliance, get your stuff back through new char and then become a proper bob spy. It might take a bit of time to get everything set up but hey, revenge is a dish best served cold right? _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by:** Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Na'Kunni Amarr RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.07 21:48:00 - [43] Originally by: Del Narveux Im feeling really vindictive all of a sudden, I think maybe its time for my lunch. Anyway, what Id do assuming you werent a bob spy and just feel prey to some bull**** alliance paranoia is make a new char, put it in their alliance, get your stuff back through new char and then become a proper bob spy. It might take a bit of time to get everything set up but hey, revenge is a dish best served cold right?
Pelf Matagraph	Posted - 2007.07.07 22:09:00 - [44] Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 07/07/2007 05:03:09 Ive been kicked from a corp, called a BOB alt spy..Good for them thinking I have anything to do with BOB.....Unfortunetly, my tech II ships + 1 bill in mods is in theyre station, and ofcourse i was banned from docking.......... They banned me and kicked me while on a ops...How do I get my belongings back.... I'm really sorry to hear this. It's not good gamesmanship. It's just another situation where a corp full of cheap losers is using "Meta Gaming" as an excuse for being bung-cavities. I just love the whole "Suspected" spy thing. How Rich! I "Suspect" your former corp members are sad idiots. Think of it this way, be happy there is 0.0 space. It gets all those hyper-sensitive power control freaks out of empire space, and gives you a nice place to visit them- when you really want to. Rejoice, for the moron kings of outer space have identified themselves. After all, how a person plays a game, even the game of life, speaks about them personally. Assuming you are not a spy, and I'm making that assumption, move on with a glad heart that karma, the great equalizer, can level alliances. I've seen it happen. -- I don't post on my main. The reason is simple- to remain obscure. EVE as a society is a rough place, and I like being anonymous. I'm not afraid. I'm just prudent.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.07 22:12:00 - [45] Originally by: Pelf Matagraph Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 07/07/2007 05:03:09 Ive been kicked from a corp, called a BOB alt spy..Good for them thinking I have anything to do with BOB.....Unfortunetly, my tech II ships + 1 bill in mods is in theyre station, and ofcourse i was banned from docking.......... They banned me and kicked me while on a ops...How do I get my belongings back.... I'm really sorry to hear this. It's not good gamesmanship. It's just another situation where a corp full of cheap losers is using "Meta Gaming" as an excuse for being bung-cavities. I just love the whole "Suspected" spy thing. How Rich! I "Suspect" your former corp members are sad idiots. Think of it this way, be happy there is 0.0 space. It gets all those hyper-sensitive power control freaks out of empire space, and gives you a nice place to visit them- when you really want to. Rejoice, for the moron kings of outer space have identified themselves. After all, how a person plays a game, even the game of life, speaks about them personally. Assuming you are not a spy, and I'm making that assumption, move on with a glad heart that karma, the great equalizer, can level alliances. I've seen it happen. Someone for got to train up Thread Reading rank 1 Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon!
Jonathos	Posted - 2007.07.07 22:14:00 - [46] Is this a joke?? It's 0.0! That's the POINT of 0.0!! A lot of risk and a lot of reward, these things happen. I got scammed a few days ago and lost 3/4 of everything I own in game, but I understand that is the risk of trading without much experience. If you play EVE you should enjoy the game for these dynamics, DO NOT give this player their belongings back, allowing them to sell is generous enough. P.S. I am accepting donations
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.07 22:35:00 - [47] I will make a note to never join FREGE. Sorry for your loss, mate! _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
CrestoftheStars Perkone	Posted - 2007.07.07 22:51:00 - [48] Originally by: CrayC I'm not sure that it will do any good petitioning this, as I don't see it as a scam. I do not know the full situation, so it is perfectly possible that they have something to base their suspicions on. Besides, if the stuff is in Dalanoria's own hangar and not the corp-hangar, they will not have access to it, so getting them as part of a scam is rather pointless. Only advise I can give you is to rejoin your corp if they ever let you, grab your stuff and get the heck out again... petition it under harashing, and they will help you out, ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 23:15:00 - [49] We have offered to buy back his things at Jita prices +5%. We will not allow him safe passage through our space or access to any Alliance materials. He had the option of leaving on friendly terms with his things, but decided to go on a f-bomb (among other obscenities) tirade instead. His lack of respect and vulgar language, coupled with his threats of force against us have left us no choice, but the one given to Dalanoria. We consider the ball in Dalanoria's court. It is up to Dalanoria to decide what is to be done. As far as DNS and Frege is concerned, this matter is closed. PCaBoo Communications Officer, Warmonger DirtNapSquad ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Aaron Mirrorsaver TARDZ Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2007.07.07 23:37:00 - [50] I find it amazing all the people saying to give the stuff back, since these are the ones who always claim eve is like real life, if any alliance took any of you in, and after you brought all your stuff down, kicked you out, that's well within game mechanics as they say and un petitionable, who told you to be so trusting? Is that not the phrase you pundits like to kick around? If people can't be trusted for 1v1 why should they be trusted with all your stuff worth billions in their hangar. that being said, I sympathize with the OP, and Frege sucks anyway. Everyone is so paranoid about this and that and spies and blah blah now, no one can be fair to no one no more, the slight suspicion he's a spy and you treat him like crap. if you have suspicion and no proof, move his stuff out problem solved. If he wants to grief you with a pilgrim, he can get one elsehwere and come back down to your space anyway. -- greater love hath no man than this; that a man lay down is life for his friends.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.07 23:54:00 - [51] I 've been frege in past, and one thing i liked there, no place for disrespect for others. That is why they deserve to be aplauded not reprimended! If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Anferney Ethereal Mercenary Services FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 00:31:00 - [52] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver that being said, I sympathize with the OP, and Frege sucks anyway. Everyone is so paranoid about this and that and spies and blah blah now, no one can be fair to no one no more, the slight suspicion he's a spy and you treat him like crap. if you have suspicion and no proof, move his stuff out problem solved. If you had cared to read the thread, you would have seen that such provisions were offered before the OP exploded and basically cussed everyone out. Since the OP's outburst, the offer has been retracted and the goods have been offered to be purchased at a 5% markup of Jita. So, FREGE has offered what you stated they should, but the OP's unnecessary outburst resulted in the offer being retracted. Here it is. Isn't it unique?
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.07.08 01:12:00 - [53] I was mulling over joining FREGE alliance and now i never will! The shear cheek of them! SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Sebastian Draconis Caldari e X i l e FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 01:28:00 - [54] Lol @ all this FREGE bashing They had every right to kick a suspected spy, and they definatly didn't have to offer the suspected spy the opportunity to get their stuff. After said spy suspect's outburst, they really, really didn't have to offer the buy the stuff for a fair profit. They are being very generous in my opinion. and by the way, In 0.0 its guilty until proven innocent. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) Join e X i l e Now!
Qolde Minmatar Guardian Heroes Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.08 01:34:00 - [55] It's 100% fair. Being kicked from a corp is the chance you take when you join one. Having your possessions destroyed or lost is the chance you take when you are anywhere in 0.0. This happened to me. All you have to do is train up some low level trade skills and sneak out there to sell your stuff. Rule of thumb, don't keep more stuff in 0.0 than you have in empire, that way the loss can never be too much to bear. If you are more adventurous, join the corp with an alt, and think of a way to get your stuff back. Plenty of options out there besides whining on the forums about it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.07.08 01:38:00 - [56] How can people think this is petitionable? I fail to see any kind of exploit or cheating. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Pelf Matagraph	Posted - 2007.07.08 02:35:00 - [57] Originally by: PCaBoo We have offered to buy back his things at Jita prices +5%. We will not allow him safe passage through our space or access to any Alliance materials. He had the option of leaving on friendly terms with his things, but decided to go on a f-bomb (among other obscenities) tirade instead. His lack of respect and vulgar language, coupled with his threats of force against us have left us no choice, but the one given to Dalanoria. We consider the ball in Dalanoria's court. It is up to Dalanoria to decide what is to be done. As far as DNS and Frege is concerned, this matter is closed. Oooooh... the "F-Bomb"! Threats of force (?!?!)- one man Vs. the Alliance! He's holding you hostage! You have no choice! You really hate to do it this way.... but in this situation you must protect yourself from "one" pilot! Hyperbole, thy name is defeat! -- I don't post on my main. The reason is simple- to remain obscure. EVE as a society is a rough place, and I like being anonymous. I'm not afraid. I'm just prudent.
Anferney Ethereal Mercenary Services FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 02:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Pelf Matagraph Oooooh... the "F-Bomb"! Threats of force (?!?!)- one man Vs. the Alliance! He's holding you hostage! You have no choice! You really hate to do it this way.... but in this situation you must protect yourself from "one" pilot! Hyperbole, thy name is defeat! Why should someone who has made threats against the alliance be allowed in alliance space? Here it is. Isn't it unique?
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 02:48:00 - [59] Originally by: Icarus Starkiller Originally by: PCaBoo It's not an option. His items are in his corp hangar and he can't dock here. He's a suspected spy and we're not going to let him come here to take his Pilgrim and undock in our space. Especially after his tirade and threats he's made against us. We've been more than reasonable about this entire situation. I don't know what else we can do to appease Dalanoria. Dalanoria? AH! Ah HA HA! The little twit that was throwing the middle finger up in local every time she saw a war target? You guys kicked her and locked down all her stuff? Oh, bloody rich hilarity there, I'll post it to our corp mail, they'll get a real laugh out of this. I cannot imagine that she has a mil in her hangar or wallet, tho, since I never saw her in anything bigger than a nuub ship or pod (both popped nicely). Good job, FREGE, good work there, and that coming from your enemy. Keep her stuff locked down. :) Oh... and yes, she is a BoB alt. Yes, that Dalanoria. Tossing the whines in COAD and in this forum won't get your stuff back. As a fellow FREGE CEO, DNS did the right thing and has been MORE then equitable regarding purchasing the said equipment. If you would have been in my corp and it was discovered you were spying, which is the same as stabbing us in the back, you would be old, grey and senile before you saw anything you left in a corp hangar. You should take the DNS buy out offer and STFU. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 02:59:00 - [60] Originally by: Pelf Matagraph Originally by: Sebastian Draconis Lol @ all this FREGE bashing They had every right to kick a suspected spy, and they definatly didn't have to offer the suspected spy the opportunity to get their stuff. After said spy suspect's outburst, they really, really didn't have to offer the buy the stuff for a fair profit. They are being very generous in my opinion. and by the way, In 0.0 its guilty until proven innocent. Right.... if you are a political moron! If I were the OP, after the treatment he was given, I'd join BOB, right freaking now, and hand them this juicy alliance with any information he has. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. If he was "suspected" any sane government would keep very close tabs on him... short leash... but oh so close. No this is a case of an incompetent 0.0 government. Look at what he is being accused of: 1. He's "suspected" of being a spy: Great- but they have no proof. 2. He used the "F-Bomb": Ok he got angry and went off. Big deal. FREGE is apparently a bunch of slaptards. When BOB comes for them- they'll just roll over and start kicking each other out for spying. What a country! Gotta luv alts who smack. You don't hae a clue what you are talking about. I probably oughta include an IBTL, as this is getting silly. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE

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