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Exlegion
KnightRaven Research KnightRaven Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kidd Billups you don't know anything you racist confederate
This comment will get you banned.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru |

Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:02:00 -
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I'm ammar and damn proud of it...sure I can get killed....but have you ever seen one Navy Apoc take on 8 ships and kill 6 of them, forcing them to retrat (and pwning me later on because of commo issues with my support ship) while only having one corp mate in a guardian (omfg it's an ammar support ship..and the guy we lost transmission to on TS) providing me with the one thing I needed to pwn (cap...good jebus CCP give me more cap). Probably not...but HOPain sure has ----------------------------------------------- Burning with wrath, He stepped down from the Heavens To judge the unworthy, To redeem the pure.
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Shinjin Malvek
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:03:00 -
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I've played Amarr pretty much from the time I started EVE I know it hasn't been long but I like them for the most part. I'm currently flying a Harbinger and it seems to tank well and uses most setups I can think up well but the big downfall so far is PVP. I can fire lasers quite fast and maintain cap no prob but I can barly dent another player with the lasers befor I get popped. I have a few more skills to train up befor I can put out max damage and just a couple weeks till I can use T2 small and med lasers, I just hope that will boost the PVP experiance some otherwise I'll have to break with Amarr tradition and start adding rails and blasters to my ships :( .
Really it seems though that for a Race that is devoted to Lasers that the Amarr need to fire all the scientists that they have working on them and find some that can bring out the real power of the lasers :) You would think that a weapon that is all EM and Heat should be a bit better in those damage types than the average Missile or gun round.
Anyway those are just my thoughts. LONG LIVE THE AMARR EMPIRE!!!! 
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Romulus Maximus
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:12:00 -
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OMG
Enough with the Amarr threads. If u dont like Amarr...dont use em. Im specced in Amarr, and im very capable of pvping with thier ships. Its called adaptation, if they buff us, we will soon be overpowered, and nerfed again. We have learned to use what we have, the pulse boost was sex. Im happy, and i rarely fly anything but Amarr. We all make a choice as to what we train for, and what we fly.
*snip* Your signature was inappropriate. Email [email protected] with a link to your signature if you have questions. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) Current RKK Ranking:(AMM15) Ace - 1000+ kills - Need more ranks!
(Fox)targets are lewt,just not yet in can form |

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:12:00 -
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They could however boost the agent payouts to amarr and minmatar pilots working for their own kind, as a way to boost their numbers.
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: insidion This is getting to be ridiculous. I'm not looking for suggestions as to how to boost amarr, there's plenty of those and imo don't think they need any more boosting. What I'd like to know is what exactly are the complaints about amarr ships that make you feel they are so 'underpowered' and 'useless'. I fly all four races, and amarr seems just fine to me.
My amarr char with 15m sp is as about as good in as bs as a gallente pilot with5m sp. Thats whats wrong
. Do not read this thread!!!
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Del Narveux
Obsidian Angels Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:27:00 -
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Ive said it like 12 times beforfe but Ill mention it again here for posterity, the easiest way to fix amarr would be to give lasers a significant increase in both damage and cap use. This would make the cap bonus actually mean something, while at the same time turning neutralizers into a viable and rather effective way of taking down amarr ships. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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insidion
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: ghosttr
My amarr char with 15m sp is as about as good in as bs as a gallente pilot with5m sp. Thats whats wrong
Better in what way exactly? What are you lacking that this other pilot is not that makes you feel things are so unbalanced? Did you blow 10m sp in industry and then switch to PVP? =P
Be specific.
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:44:00 -
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Skill > sp's
"Id rather fall beside 10 Lions, than stand with 1000 sheep.."
Trading 101
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:46:00 -
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go be FOTM and train Minmatar or something. . . Amarr are fine, you just need to use your head, not your foot.
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Warrio on 10/07/2007 22:50:28
Originally by: Space Samuri i pwn tbh. just not with amarr. and it wouldnt be too complicated at all to do
Ok. So you 'pwn. But you don't 'pwn' with Amarr gear. But you could 'pwn' with Amarr gear? But you don't.
So... why did you bother traning up another race if it wouldn't be too complicated to 'pwn' with your old race?
As somebody's sig once said; From what you have said I believe you used to play World of Warcraft, Given your opinions I believe it would be wise of you to return there.
Sig removed due to being too freaking awsome. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Deckard Cain |

ghost st
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:56:00 -
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It seems that alost of people that dont fly amarr have no idea of the issues whatsoever. Even CCP realizes that amarr is unedrpowered. I think if you dont actually fly amarr syou shouldnt get a say in the matter
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Del Narveux
Obsidian Angels Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: insidion
Originally by: ghosttr
My amarr char with 15m sp is as about as good in as bs as a gallente pilot with5m sp. Thats whats wrong
Better in what way exactly? What are you lacking that this other pilot is not that makes you feel things are so unbalanced?
My guess would be uber drone ownage. (drownage? ). Its pure liquid *****you know! _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Benroe
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:12:00 -
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I think nos needs a nerf. It's overpowered in general and obviously even more so against Amarr. That would be one quick fix.
Other than that, yeah, major changes.
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Vincenzo Delloro
Amarr Lux et Veritas
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:17:00 -
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Amarr Cat sez:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4088/j46cfaafrqsu7.jpg
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Cosmo Raata
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:27:00 -
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My only issue honestly is that CCP lied. They said they need rebalancing & "Oomph", they got horrible rebalancing & no "Oomph".
So, I could care less if this is how they stayed as they are still decent in gate camps & fleet stuff, oh well if they aren't great at solo stuff. The main issue is that CCP recognized the problem, promised something & acted like they never said anything about it, even though there is a dev blog clear as day about it.
So, when it comes to the Amarr issue only one thing comes to my mind, CCP ARE LIARS.
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Seidr
Amarr Icarus' Wings
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:29:00 -
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Cap dependency, mainly in PvP is the bane of Amarr. I'm hoping the discussed Nos tweaks will resolve the bulk of the cap issues, but I'm not holding my breath.
Personally, I love Amarr ships. Amarr fury, focused through crystals, lovely. While I don't agree with their doctrine, I have always been a sucker for some zzzap.
The tracking boost definitely helped a bit, and it may just be my inexperience prompting this, but Nos definitely needs a good look at.
Wasn't the Nos balance supposed to come in RevII, or did I miss a dev blog about that?
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Sku1ly
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:30:00 -
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I agree, Amarr are useless.
Stop buying their ships and modules.
Now.
Make the price cheaper, AMARR ARE POO.
/me strokes Amarr BS5.
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jilahed
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:30:00 -
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1. Leave my ships alone. 2. Curse pilot was a nub.
That is all.
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Ozzie Asrail
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:32:00 -
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Amarr are fine, stop whining. Loads of my corp fly amarr and regularly hit top dmg on killmails. In a gang bigger than 5 pulses rock compaired to short range blasters.
Abso, geddon, curse, pilgrim all great ships. -----
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Kyreax
Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:34:00 -
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It was those pesky Templars that were the downfall of Amarrians! ---------------------------------------------------
It's a Templar, an Amarr Fighter used by Carriers. |

Seidr
Amarr Icarus' Wings
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:35:00 -
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Hang on..aren't they a fighter of some sort?
NANO, dodge that flame! 
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Cosmo Raata
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:37:00 -
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Hell, I dont even know why anyone posts suggestions or requests of any kind anymore. CCP doesn't care!
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Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:45:00 -
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my only real gripe with amarr is that their battleships are genuinely kinda hard to outfit properly. They need just a little bit more fitting room IMO.
In all other regards, I love Amarr. My battlecruiser of choice is the Harbinger. Why?
Seven focused medium beam lasers IIs, that's why. ***
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insidion
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: insidion on 10/07/2007 23:53:14 Edited by: insidion on 10/07/2007 23:52:41
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail Amarr are fine, stop whining. Loads of my corp fly amarr and regularly hit top dmg on killmails. In a gang bigger than 5 pulses rock compaired to short range blasters.
Abso, geddon, curse, pilgrim all great ships.
Exactly, there's one person in our corp who is fairly strictly amarr and is one of the top killers for us. He's a damn good pilot and uses amarr ships very effectively. He definitely prefers them, but is easily capable of using other ships from other races.
Sorry, but if you're whining that amarr still needs further boosting, say exactly what is unbalanced that requires such a change. Otherwise it just seems that you're whining that you want all the benefits with no drawbacks, which is absurd. Cap troubles? Can't fit everything you want? You fear facing certain ships? Sounds like the exact same 'problems' everyone else has.
Gotta take the good with the bad, just like everyone else.
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Mari Onette
Amarr Gottland Production Transport Mines
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Posted - 2007.07.10 23:56:00 -
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It ain't easy being Amarr.
But thats just how I roll.
Don't like amarr, don't play em. ------ I am in blood! Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more, it would be as tedious as going over. -MacBeth |

Kidd Billups
Nirvana. W A S T E L A N D
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Posted - 2007.07.11 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Kidd Billups
Originally by: Battou I love Amarr ships. They are already doing better with the recent increase to pulse tracking, because it actually makes their T2 ammo viable. Heck if Amarr could get a little more drone space and have an advantage at heat (heat sinks should = better thermodynamics), they would probably be considered too powerful again.
you don't know anything you racist confederate
An Amarr criticizing anyone for being racist is hilarious. 
The funny thing is conferates are in RL. The whole 'Amarr own Minnie as slaves' thing is in eve which is obviously just a game. Or has eve blinded you so much from the difference between RL and a game that you think b/c my char is amarr that I myself am racist?... quite pathetic.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.11 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kidd Billups
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Kidd Billups
Originally by: Battou I love Amarr ships. They are already doing better with the recent increase to pulse tracking, because it actually makes their T2 ammo viable. Heck if Amarr could get a little more drone space and have an advantage at heat (heat sinks should = better thermodynamics), they would probably be considered too powerful again.
you don't know anything you racist confederate
An Amarr criticizing anyone for being racist is hilarious. 
The funny thing is conferates are in RL. The whole 'Amarr own Minnie as slaves' thing is in eve which is obviously just a game. Or has eve blinded you so much from the difference between RL and a game that you think b/c my char is amarr that I myself am racist?... quite pathetic.
Chill dude, that was in-character.  ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery. |

Kidd Billups
Nirvana. W A S T E L A N D
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Posted - 2007.07.11 05:21:00 -
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
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Veng3ance
Illicit Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.11 05:23:00 -
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Amarr is fine.
Stop whining. Oh wait actually i forgot!
Boost Amarr cruisers! (Hehe)
Thats honestly my only concern. Arbi's are alright, but the Omen and Maller may as well be tech 1 frigs for how useful they are 
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