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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Winterblink
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It also is not what EVE is about, u can do and be whatever u like
Originally by: SiJira
i admit i dont want to kill the rare rpers - but seriously your spamming or 1 account cancellation would not stop CCP from implementing something if they thought was right
The point he was making about flexibility is something which CCP themselves have spoken to on numerous occasions as well. The idea of not restricting players to specific ships based on race, is what I'm speaking of.
Personally I loved the idea someone else mentioned, where faction modules got bonuses when mounted on ships of the same race. Like Federation Navy railguns getting some kind of bonus when fitted on Gallente ships. That seemed fairly sensible to me.
oh but what ever happened to being able to do whatever you want to do 
Pardon, but... what about it? Not sure I see the connection between what you said and what you replied to.
i doubt you are as dim as you pretending to be but just so everyone sees how dumb you are acting i re-added the quote from 000hunter000 that you so conveniently removed
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
actully you're all wasting your time, if you got EON you would know that helmar is allready designing a system that makes flying your faction.races ship much more useful with factional warfare. maybe more lp. better ranks and medals. A matar pilot would not stand out easiler in the ammar faction stading. nor would they ever want to admit to having them there kind of thing.
so no bonuses to stats. but just like they are looking for a non-number reason to buy crew they are working on it.
commenting on factional warwafe not being in the game yet
"It was what should have given the players a better feel for their own race, and to, damn it, stop flying ship of their enemy race just because they can!"
assume all you want but we know how he feels about the subject at least
indeed my posts are quite relevent to the common issues 
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:47:00 -
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Well, I think it's been pretty well established why this is a bad idea. But I gotta throw in:
Nerf __[race]__!!! threads
They would be never ending! Think of the forums! 
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.12 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Winterblink on 12/07/2007 19:08:17
Originally by: SiJira
i doubt you are as dim as you pretending to be but just so everyone sees how dumb you are acting i re-added the quote from 000hunter000 that you so conveniently removed
It wasn't removed conveniently. And what I posted doesn't contradict it. At any rate, it seems that everything you post has to include some sort of unwarranted personal attack instead of actually contributing to any ongoing discussion.
You're operating under the flawed assumption that you'll be able to bait me into a back-and-forth flamefest.
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Tsanse Kinske
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Posted - 2007.07.12 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tsanse Kinske on 12/07/2007 19:48:44
The flawed assumption is probably more along the lines of, "Hey, I bet most people don't pay enough attention to see that a lot of the stuff I post makes no sense, and that most of the replies I make to the people who point this out don't relate to their comments at all."
edit: well, maybe not so flawed. 
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Posted - 2007.07.12 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
Edited by: Tsanse Kinske on 12/07/2007 19:48:44
The flawed assumption
I always thought the thought process here was, "Hey, not enough people listen to me."
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Tarazed Aquilae
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Posted - 2007.07.12 20:10:00 -
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From a traditional debate approach this idea fails on 4 of the 5 key areas for argument.
Topicality û Yea, it has that because itÆs about Eve. IÆll give you that.
Inherency û It really fails this one because your starting race already gives you an advantage in that raceÆs ships. You start with some ship and gunnery skills which make it a bit faster to stick with that raceÆs ships. This achieves whatever ôflavorö your plan is trying to add to the game without permanently handicapping anyone.
Harm/Advantages û No real harm is defined by your plan. In other words, thereÆs nothing wrong with the way things work now. And, your plan wouldnÆt make the game better in any way. Really, your idea just amounts to a ôwouldnÆt it be cool if?ö line of thinking. Usability of the interface doesnÆt improve, lag isnÆt cleared up, no new tactical options are added, the game isnÆt made any more playable or more fun.
Solvency û Well, thereÆs nothing to solve since nothing is broken and thereÆs no benefit to your plan. ôWouldnÆt it be cool if?ö No, it wouldnÆt.
Disadvantages û Just because something is pointless and has no reason to exist is no reason not to do it. Letting characters with maxed out mining skills change their in game portrait to that of a pastel colored stuffed animal with a rainbow on its stomach is pointless, but I wouldnÆt really object to it since it wouldnÆt hurt anything. Some fluff is acceptable.
But, your plan actually does hurt things. People picked their race many years ago in some cases when the game worked far differently than it does now. Saddling people with a permanent handicap based on that decision is bad IMO. Your plan also adds all kinds of balance issues to the game. It also goes against one of the main selling points of Eve, that you can train to do anything as well as anyone else, if you have the time.
Fortunately your idea wonÆt go anywhere.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tarazed Aquilae
even though i am in a general discussion forum blah blah blah
i would make it so it adds all those things to your race but that would definitely break the balance
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Wayward Hooligan
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Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:18:00 -
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I want Gallente to have increased resistance to fire and frost damage please.
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Neuromandis
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:27:00 -
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This is RACISM
j/k
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
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Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:58:00 -
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You guys realize that SiJira makes threads like these just so he can flame everyone posting in it yes? No matter how airtight your logic is he's just going to reject it with some off the wall snarky comment and move to the next post.. 
That being said his grand idea.. Well.. Its not good.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth
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