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DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:33:00 - [121] Originally by: Anope Edited by: Anope on 17/07/2007 07:26:02 Originally by: steveid I really dont know why they are crying about desynch tbh, it really doesn't make any sense. The facts: The fleet jumped into system, AFTER they jumped in carriers were dropped and a small fleet tackled. The main bulk of our fleet came in behind and jumped in the same gate that curse had already jumped through. If there was desynch - and the 8 people that destroyed the dictor that bubbled them would lead me to believe not - then surely the AXE fleet jumping in after would have been the guys that suffered from it. Curse were already in system. Aside from the crying, and in local there was a LOT, your fleet did get pwned, but we didn't get any freighters, through whatever tactics you used. I wouldn't call it a victory for either side really. Rest assured, we will try again. There was a Desync... for our entire fleet. End of story. CA would never stoop so low as to lie about a desnyc... and TBH I can't think of any corp/alliance that would. Originally by: steveid then surely the AXE fleet jumping in after would have been the guys that suffered from it. Curse were already in system. Yes we were already in system, but we were also staring at our log in screens, trying to get back in and fight before our Ships got popped w/o us even turning on our tanks. TBH im still trying to figure out how desnyc's work... b/c We had a gatecamp setup for BoB, and they jumped into us and WE desync'd... and now we jumped in on yall... and WE desyncd even though we did the jumping... its all pretty confusing and frustrating... sucks the fun out of it for both sides (unless the side that doesn't get desynced truly believes they were "fighitng" the enemey... b/c then they'd they were awesome.. and prob brag about it on forums...) You guys didnt jump into us. We only had 2 pilots in local when you jumped, we dropped bubble, lit cyno, jumped 4 carriers in. Carriers started teh engagement, rest of the fleets were 2 jumps back so you guys wouldn't see it coming. By time you guys uncloaked and start fighting back, our fleets were jumping into you from both sides mm and 8yc. And Honestly no clue how desync works, I know other day we attacked a raven with 12 cepters, we all got desynced but 1 of us. Had a fleet warp in on us, but they didnt seem to see us because we finished off the raven and then the person able to see gang warped us out. Pretty bad when 20-30 people in a local desync. Debating if node crash's or desync's are worse.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:37:00 - [122] Originally by: Sir MilBanacky Edited by: Sir MilBanacky on 17/07/2007 07:30:57 Edited by: Sir MilBanacky on 17/07/2007 07:28:29 Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Sir MilBanacky Originally by: DeathGrip Edited by: DeathGrip on 17/07/2007 05:03:54 Originally by: Redon Originally by: Pilk Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: Pilk I think I fly enough T2, thanks. Not very well, however. stupid: 1, pilk: 0 All the T2 in the world doesn't help when CA's logging their freighters, like they did again tonight. Ah well, at least we wiped the floor with the rest of their fleet. So, how many times can this be the "standard freighter tactics" before it starts getting suspicious, exactly? --P what are you smoking while writing that. dropping 4 carriers on an entire desyncd fleet and once again pounding your chests on forums. fight fleet to fleet, and keyword is fight not go from one target to another with 40 some odd fighters and an additional 20 or so support that warp in, while we all trying to login. PS. CCP stop adding new content and visual improvements or whatever it is you call it and fix the performance of the game in general. cause server performance is really lacking specially after 4 years. Fact remains you lost the fight. Fact remains you can't prove you would have won the fight since you lost. Damage Done - 2.4Bil Isk, Damage we took, 64mil Isk. And if you logged off and on then why didnt any of you come back to the gate. Once you ran away you never came back. Edit - And if you don't like our carriers kill them. It wont be our first or last carriers to lose. LOL you are The Uber E-Peen King, All are supposed to bow to your Uberness right? I don't do much in the forums until I am smacked. I started this thread to show the Eve community a great battle that happend. Then some of CA decided to smack me for losing a zealot and claim to be spanking AXE. So I corrected these things with FACTS. You guys continue to use opinions, thoughts, and what ever else you come up with your delirious conclusions. Fact is you lost to Outbreak with over 2-1 odds. Fact is we are in your space every day ganking your members. Fact is you lost now to us with odds in your favor 2-1. Fact is you have now had to log your frieghters to Oubreak, and now to us 2 times. Fact is you did kill my zealot. Fact is you do kill some of our inties in HLW. Fact is over all I am having great fun doing it all. Now please reply to this post with more non factual things as you have done entire thread. FACT #1 This was my FIRST POST in this thread FACT #2 This thread was a show of Respect to Outbreak until your Eppenus (Highness) started twisting it into a Flame Fest. FACT #3 KB quoting is about as Accurate as a Daisy air rifle at 2000 Meters. Fact #4 The Mods will magically appear and end the madness that is this thread. Per Fact 1 - Congratz :) Per Fact 2 - Go Re-REad the thread. YOu guys started bragging about a zealot kill, and other garbage, then I joined in on the fun. You guys are the ones that continue to smack in local. Per Fact 3 - Axe Killboard is pretty accurate. I am sure we are missng a few kills / loss's but nothing that would throw it off much. Per Fact 4 - I have emailed the Mods, I have asked the mods in this thread to lock it, they won't for some reason. But I have a feeling you are correct sooner or later ;)
Anope High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:37:00 - [123] Originally by: DeathGrip You guys didnt jump into us. We only had 2 pilots in local when you jumped, we dropped bubble, lit cyno, jumped 4 carriers in. Carriers started teh engagement, rest of the fleets were 2 jumps back so you guys wouldn't see it coming. By time you guys uncloaked and start fighting back, our fleets were jumping into you from both sides mm and 8yc. [/quote Ah, so I guess yall jumped in on us? well then thats the 2nd time of desync from having people jump in on us, my guess... Server concentrates on people jumping in system... not those already in it... Ghey.
Anope High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:39:00 - [124] Originally by: DeathGrip Per Fact 4 - I have emailed the Mods, I have asked the mods in this thread to lock it, they won't for some reason. But I have a feeling you are correct sooner or later ;) Simple Solution. Okay guys reply 1 if you like Tomatoes on a sandwhich, and 2 if you don't, here I'll go first. 2 ------
Deerhoof United Society Starfleet Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:40:00 - [125] Desynch is more irritating, becuase you're pretty much taking the other sides word for it.. "uh.. we were desynched!!" it's an easy call to make to save face.. understand i'm not accusing CA of doing this, just a thought on the whole desynch idea. it seems an easy thing to shout these days when you get creamed. nobody can argue with a node-crash
Deerhoof United Society Starfleet Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:42:00 - [126] Originally by: Anope Originally by: DeathGrip Per Fact 4 - I have emailed the Mods, I have asked the mods in this thread to lock it, they won't for some reason. But I have a feeling you are correct sooner or later ;) Simple Solution. Okay guys reply 1 if you like Tomatoes on a sandwhich, and 2 if you don't, here I'll go first. 2 ------ .. depends what it's with.. cheese and tomato rules. where as peanut butter and tomato is pretty disgusting, I'd imagine. also.. i'm english.. so I say tomato, you say tomat.. wait.. that doesn't work with text.
Murphy Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:47:00 - [127] RUM
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:49:00 - [128] I had an egg salad sandwhich for dinner, was good. Some potato chips on the side as well. For desert had Cheese Gold Fish :)
Deerhoof United Society Starfleet Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:57:00 - [129] any tomato in that sammich DG?
steveid Templar Securities and Holdings Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 08:51:00 - [130] i just ate a whole packet of sausages .. nothing but ketchup. i need to do some shopping tbfh
doctorstupid2 Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 09:19:00 - [131] Originally by: Murphy Originally by: ArcticFox Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: Pilk I think I fly enough T2, thanks. Not very well, however. stupid: 1, pilk: 0 The problem with getting in a flame war with AXE members is we quickly get distracted and start flaming eachother instead. Deathgrip is a noob, btw. POST WITH YOUR MAIN! LOUD NOISES!! damn our collectively short attention span... Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go
ArcticFox Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 09:30:00 - [132] Edited by: ArcticFox on 17/07/2007 09:29:53 Originally by: Anope Edited by: Anope on 17/07/2007 07:26:02 Originally by: steveid I really dont know why they are crying about desynch tbh, it really doesn't make any sense. The facts: The fleet jumped into system, AFTER they jumped in carriers were dropped and a small fleet tackled. The main bulk of our fleet came in behind and jumped in the same gate that curse had already jumped through. If there was desynch - and the 8 people that destroyed the dictor that bubbled them would lead me to believe not - then surely the AXE fleet jumping in after would have been the guys that suffered from it. Curse were already in system. Aside from the crying, and in local there was a LOT, your fleet did get pwned, but we didn't get any freighters, through whatever tactics you used. I wouldn't call it a victory for either side really. Rest assured, we will try again. There was a Desync... for our entire fleet. End of story. CA would never stoop so low as to lie about a desnyc... and TBH I can't think of any corp/alliance that would. Originally by: steveid then surely the AXE fleet jumping in after would have been the guys that suffered from it. Curse were already in system. Yes we were already in system, but we were also staring at our log in screens, trying to get back in and fight before our Ships got popped w/o us even turning on our tanks. TBH im still trying to figure out how desnyc's work... b/c We had a gatecamp setup for BoB, and they jumped into us and WE desync'd... and now we jumped in on yall... and WE desyncd even though we did the jumping... its all pretty confusing and frustrating... sucks the fun out of it for both sides (unless the side that doesn't get desynced truly believes they were "fighitng" the enemey... b/c then they'd they were awesome.. and prob brag about it on forums...) Yes desync sucks, though there are at least 12 ships on some of our lossmails, so your "entire fleet" might not be entirely accurate. :P -------------------------- There is no +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve.
soulkiller3 Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.17 09:49:00 - [133] Good to see Curse Alliance alive and kicking, i ant been keeping up with whatÆs happening of late and I thort you lot had disappeared, as for DeathGrip go out side in the sun for a bit, and chill.
heavyg Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.17 10:50:00 - [134] Best de sync ever last night. Desynced, opened a new client, logged in. Client 1 showing me in Myrm, being pounded by 6 bs +support drones everwhere modules flashing as normal, except no damage being taken. Client 2 me in pod in space. Both open at the same time (i thought a second connection killed the first), talk about out of body(pod) experience
Matrixcvd Last Serenity The Sundering	Posted - 2007.07.17 12:26:00 - [135] Originally by: ArcticFox FYI: Most of AXE hasn't heard a thing about any Desync Thats cause AXE doesn't fight. How would you know of the broken fleet combat in EVE if you never get more than some frigates and a drake together? You would rather bump freighters in high sec till we get tired and nearly petition it. Your tactics are lame, boring, and childish. Originally by: ArcticFox We're not mindreaders and we can't divine it from tealeaves, so don't come on here acting like it's something we ought to feel ashamed about after killing you. When the opposing force claims desynch, and you watch local go up and down while your in ssystem, it's a hint that people are trying to log in and out to fix the problem since its the only way we know how. So when you come back on here talkin about your great fleet tactics this whole community just laughs at you, cause gosh 1 ship with 12 attackers is really a sign we had any fire control and could actually play the game. Take the wrecks and choke on them, they will be replaced the whole incident will be a waste of time (frankly as much of this game as of late) as what we set out to do will be completed. We have been running this for nearly a week and the only thing that your genius antics could conjure up, is a cyno bomb causing a desynch. I hope it has given you a sense of accomplishment. Will make our job that much easier when they fix this broken game As for desych's i have seen it happen with as few as 50 in sys and as few as 25 jumpin in. Somtimes the fleet jumping in causes the players in the incoming system to desynch but the fact that you jumped another 20-30 people in was probably what caused it. PS. No one claimed lag or any issues against the battle which the OP was outlining, and lost far more, so relax you got lucky
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 13:32:00 - [136] Originally by: Matrixcvd Originally by: ArcticFox FYI: Most of AXE hasn't heard a thing about any Desync Thats cause AXE doesn't fight. How would you know of the broken fleet combat in EVE if you never get more than some frigates and a drake together? You would rather bump freighters in high sec till we get tired and nearly petition it. Your tactics are lame, boring, and childish. We spent hours--HOURS!--planning that freighter-bumping op. I'm still putting together the fraps. Every member of AXE, from the lowliest industrial alt all the way up to Jimmy DiGriz himself, was involved in its execution. There's a 50-page thread over on the AXE forums on the best way to do it, complete with diagrams and full-motion rendered video. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Anope High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:01:00 - [137] BTW mods this has all turned into a discussion about a recent Axiom empre/-v- VS Sundering/CA fight. I think thats pretty off topic eh? Lock please!
Anope High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:04:00 - [138] Originally by: ArcticFoxFYI: Most of AXE hasn't heard a thing about any Desync since as far as I can tell our side didn't experience one. We're not mindreaders and we can't divine it from tealeaves, so don't come on here acting like it's something we ought to feel ashamed about after killing you.[/quote We're not saying you should feel ashamed about killing us, just don't brag about it... Its now pretty common knowledge in curse that CA/Sun holds their own against Axiom, and that Slaughter that occured last night is not an accurate depiction of our usual fights together... And when I say "hold its on" im bascialy comparing yall with outbreak... which puts yall just about on par with us.
sharkyballs Amarr Dkiller Delta Force Corp. Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:35:00 - [139] what a perfectly good waste of space we have here
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 15:56:00 - [140] AXE you guy did so good!! You have a few more kills on the killboards vs CA but we just moved 22 freighters through your low sec/0.0 space in the last 4 days. Who cares you killed a few players lets make a POST on the EVE forms that we killed 15 ships! Look at me!! If I was controlling that part of space and let 22 frighters slip by and only killed 15-20 ships I would not be bragging about it on the eve forums. Just my .02 cents
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:31:00 - [141] Originally by: Cupdeez AXE you guy did so good!! You have a few more kills on the killboards vs CA but we just moved 22 freighters through your low sec/0.0 space in the last 4 days. Who cares you killed a few players lets make a POST on the EVE forms that we killed 15 ships! Look at me!! If I was controlling that part of space and let 22 frighters slip by and only killed 15-20 ships I would not be bragging about it on the eve forums. Just my .02 cents Few Things - 1. We Don't control this space. Your not even our primary target. Just happens you run through the same space we do, so we kill you. 2. Its not a few ships we have killed. We have now done aprox 6bil isk in damage to you in less than 10 days. May not seem like a lot but it adds up. 3. Per this thread outbreak has done a serious amount of damage to you, again it adds up. 4. Hard to kill freighters that are never logged on if even 1 person in a shuttle gets near them. 5. Was fun, please keep moving the freighters, sooner or later we will get lucky, just as I am sure sooner or later you will a battle or 2. 6. To the guy above that says we use nothing but cepters / drakes how did we just kill about 25 of your bs / bc's / t2 ships. Didn't look like many cepters to me.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:39:00 - [142] Originally by: Matrixcvd Originally by: ArcticFox FYI: Most of AXE hasn't heard a thing about any Desync Thats cause AXE doesn't fight. How would you know of the broken fleet combat in EVE if you never get more than some frigates and a drake together? You would rather bump freighters in high sec till we get tired and nearly petition it. Your tactics are lame, boring, and childish. Originally by: ArcticFox We're not mindreaders and we can't divine it from tealeaves, so don't come on here acting like it's something we ought to feel ashamed about after killing you. When the opposing force claims desynch, and you watch local go up and down while your in ssystem, it's a hint that people are trying to log in and out to fix the problem since its the only way we know how. So when you come back on here talkin about your great fleet tactics this whole community just laughs at you, cause gosh 1 ship with 12 attackers is really a sign we had any fire control and could actually play the game. Take the wrecks and choke on them, they will be replaced the whole incident will be a waste of time (frankly as much of this game as of late) as what we set out to do will be completed. We have been running this for nearly a week and the only thing that your genius antics could conjure up, is a cyno bomb causing a desynch. I hope it has given you a sense of accomplishment. Will make our job that much easier when they fix this broken game As for desych's i have seen it happen with as few as 50 in sys and as few as 25 jumpin in. Somtimes the fleet jumping in causes the players in the incoming system to desynch but the fact that you jumped another 20-30 people in was probably what caused it. PS. No one claimed lag or any issues against the battle which the OP was outlining, and lost far more, so relax you got lucky Let me try to make you understand this in English. A) CCP does not replace ships from desync. So it was not a waist of time. There logs don't show desyncs. B) If we don't fight you in anything but cepters how is it you lost almost 25 ships last night to carriers and BS's. All those kill mails must be wrong.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 17:50:00 - [143] I have not eaten yet, any suggestions.. It's about 2pm so would be my breakfast and lunch, but possibly my dinner as well.
Acidictadpole Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 18:18:00 - [144] Edited by: Acidictadpole on 17/07/2007 18:20:14 I myself would go for a chicken caesar wrap. I may just end up having a Mr. Noodles bowl since I dont want to go out at all :P. Swiss Chalet is also a possibility, laugh to all those in the states and elsewhere who have never heard of this delicacy. Oh, and back on topic.. 1 (Tomatoes++)
Barkode Fourth Dimension	Posted - 2007.07.17 19:33:00 - [145] The Taco Bell near me just brought back Chili Cheese burritos. **** yeah
Anope High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:10:00 - [146] Originally by: Acidictadpole I myself would go for a chicken caesar wrap. Is that any good? like.. would you be getting that from subway or a burger joint? b/c that sounds pretty good tbh.. and im hungry.
Acidictadpole Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:26:00 - [147] Originally by: Anope Originally by: Acidictadpole I myself would go for a chicken caesar wrap. Is that any good? like.. would you be getting that from subway or a burger joint? b/c that sounds pretty good tbh.. and im hungry. Actually my local grocery store (dunno if a sobeys exists anywhere but Canada) makes them well in their deli. The other ones they have are spicy turkey wrap, which is awesome too.
sharkyballs Amarr Dkiller Delta Force Corp. Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.17 22:38:00 - [148] Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: Cupdeez AXE you guy did so good!! You have a few more kills on the killboards vs CA but we just moved 22 freighters through your low sec/0.0 space in the last 4 days. We have space? Let me clear up something for you guys real quick, we don't live in low sec, and we don't live anywhere near Great Wildlands/Curse/whatever the other regions over there are. We're not here for you, you're simply targets of opportunity as is every other neutral entity in Eve. So you killed DeathGrip's zealot? nice work, DG suicides ravens into gatecamps to get an accurate ship count, you're not the first. Do us all a favor please and save the smack until you actually have a grasp of who we are and what we're doing. i'm sorry, did you say cheeseburger? cause that's what i heard and now you're making me hungry.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 23:02:00 - [149] Well I decided on a Wendy's. I picked up a 99 cent cheeseburger with a bottle of water. Ate and drank that with some Cheese Goldfish, and then also bought myself a taco salad for dinner.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 23:03:00 - [150] Originally by: doctorstupid2 So you killed DeathGrip's zealot? nice work, DG suicides ravens into gatecamps to get an accurate ship count, you're not the first. The day DG starts doing it with Ravens, instead of rigged tier-3 BS with a full set of +5's in his head, is the day I'll feel a lot more competent at making isk in this game. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

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