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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 20:48:00 -
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by the way dont say you "theoritically" fly a MS when you dont, because that experience is something really unique
try it it's really oh em eFF GEEEE
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Karunel
Princeps Corp
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.07.18 20:53:00 -
[32]
Leave then. Honestly, games aren't supossed to last your entire life. If you enjoyed all there is and don't find any further reason to stay, leave, and maybe some day they'll add something that'll make you come back.
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 Originally by: elbenito
The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2007.07.18 20:55:00 -
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While I can understand your issues, you seem to leave out much of what I personally find to be the most enjoyable part of Eve - doing stuff with friends and corp-mates. Hatching ingenious plans and setting them into motion. Being creative. Market warfare. Many other things. Maybe you just didn't list them as you had a lot to get off your chest. Anyway, I feel I've done a hell of a lot (not carriers and such as you have, but most of the other stuff), and I still have a lot of fun. I've played many, many other games, including mmo's and I think Eve is far and away the best one out there.
That being said, if you are not having fun, you definitely should stop playing. Though, I don't understanding the need for drama and forum ranting. Kind of shows me it's much more than just a game to you.
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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:08:00 -
[34]
After being in your pod for 3-years, I think it's time you had a break! How about The Burning Crusade for a change?!
If I were the OP, I'd keep skilling up until ambulation happens. And then log back in.
By then, all the graphics will be updated, factional warfare will be here (it isn't really here yet!), and you'll have had a rest.
Just think how your skills will be like in a year's time!
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Templer Relleg
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:12:00 -
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I fully understand where you are comming from.
Eve isnt what it used to be. Killing random noobs gets old easily. If you dont kill noobs, you get ganked by a 40 man fleet 
The carebear side i havent touched that much - its simply not fun.
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Kash Ka
Amarr
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kash Ka on 18/07/2007 21:15:56
No u havent done it all, have u flown a titan yet no, have u used its doomsday device hell no, i dont think u mentioned ded space 10, or flying every flyable ship in the game, so y say u have done it all if u havent.
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Anubis Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:29:00 -
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3 years is that all you have played?
I've been playing more than 3 years and I've just now managed to get a character I like going. I'd say I have time to go yet before I get tired of the game.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Mortuus
Minmatar
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:29:00 -
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Solo and small gang PvP is still alive and kicking no matter what people say, and I find its the best part of EvE.
10 man roaming gang of HACs vs an equal number of HYDRA battleships, with their support and carrier drones on top of that? Game on!
Jumping into a gate with a buddy, going holy carp, thats a 10 man enemy gang, and getting out alive after a bit of running? Thats good stuff.
Of course any game gets boring the moment you stop challenging yourself and just fly around in comfort. Then again, thats why some of us keep getting better, while other groups and players stagnate.
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:34:00 -
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Quote: a game with awesome new ideas and concepts but lousy realization at many points.
That is my feeling about EVE in a nutshell. There is nothing conceptually wrong with EVE, but the devil is in the details and here CCP have lost the plot a bit. Some things are overly complicated and just plain daft. Tech II missiles for example. Train for a 6 weeks to fire something which makes you're ship fly slower... right. And that averages out more or less the same as t1 missiles, because they either have slower flight speed and less range or faster speed but less damage. Who was the genius that came up with that setup? Oh, and then throw in faction missiles which do everything better so they instantly become redundant. Rigs: what the hell is up with these pieces of crap? Why do so many have such stupid side effects? Cap recharge bonus with a shield boost penalty? What is this, a laser guided caldari drawback? And then you have ccc rigs, with no drawbacks alltogether, making everything else in your ship (passive tanks not withstanding) work better. Most rigs are just crap and quite frankly are implemented wrong. Other things in eve are stupid too, like the flagging rules which every now and again kill gangmates because you cant help a gangmate without being in his corp... More stupid stuff? The whole t2 lottery... ok, so its dead now, but I won't forget it. Oh, and that awesome piece of work that were wrecks. Thx for making my looting last longer, because I now have to deselect wrecks as I don't salvage and they won't do it automatically like the previous can system did. I love feature downgrades! And drones, now you see them, now you don't! I don't mean the bugs, I mean that since revelations I can't focus on my own drones or fighters, all I see is a white crosshair. Then you have that ungodly clustercopulation that is undocking, which I am assuming will be resolved with the new graphic engine and stations, but it has been annoying me for 18months. I think its one of the main reasons I prefer to make isk from contract trading that hauling, despite having every single caldari industrial up to freighter. Undocking with a freighter is such joy... And I could go on and on and on...
Don't get me wrong podpilots, I do love eve and will probably play for another 2 years, but if ever a game needed polish, no, if ever a game was good enough to demand polish, then EVE is that game.
That said, since I started playing eve, overall the patches have made the game better, so I have high hopes for the next graphical update. As for gameplay... It might be time for a DEEP redesign CCP. Want some tips? Abandon the drawback model; Make room for small corps and individualists. The big boys want targets, the little boys want lowsec with a chance; Introduce a joust mode for high sec player vrs player dueling; Get rid of local in no-sec; Keep the asteroid fields, I don't want to have to look for where I mine, its a big enough waste of time as is; Make the economy TOTALLY player driven, it will work; Integrate eve voice for free, its not worth the extra isk; Forget about EVE tv, it will die (sorry spyro). Or make it for "free" and include in the subscription package; Forget about time sink gameplay as a concept, its crap and that's what skilltraining is for. GIVE US A SKILL PLANNER, IT WON'T KILL YOU, introduce more randomization in mission:where they correspond to a specific type but the actual mission randomizes ships,scenery, npcs and loadouts from a specific mission level catalog. Make drops correspond to npc loadouts in a more predictable way; Give us long range tractor beams (medium at 40km and large at 80km, cruiser and battleship fits) so we can have dedicated loot ships that actually save us time; Give us salvage and loot drones, for the same reason; Increase warp speeds across the board, eve does look nice as a screensaver but thats not what I wanted to subscribe; Give us better sounds, rails sound like kids toys.
Ok, I'm done. 
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: Grainsalt on 18/07/2007 22:24:32
Everytime I get bored with eve I do some exploring...
It always makes me feal better.
Maybe this video will inspire you just a little.. and bring your Mojo back.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
EVE is like life, you can either look at it as there is nothing really to achieve or look at it as that it is all about the living..
Anyway...
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Something Random
Gallente
F.S.O.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:49:00 -
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Ive played 3 years too and im staying 
Sounds to me like you numbed your mind with missions too long, there's a crap load more to do. 0.0 is good to me, endless fleets arnt bad and i dont seem to suffer like others do on the lag front - either that or im not so sensitive to it as i do get it but am happy to live through it.
I dunno.
Couldnt you just leave ? did you have to say 'ive been playing 3 years and had a blast but no-one else bother as its all pointless really' and man did you say it loooooong time.
Now give me your ******* stuff. All of it.
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Dau Imperius
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:49:00 -
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Heh I somewhat know what the OP is feeling like.
I only log on to EVE these days to train my skills.
There's one thing about EVE in general people seem to be missing: EVE might be a sandbox, but unfortunetly it's not filled with sand. It's filled with a slab of concrete, while the rest of the box is full of 'you'-the players. You're making 'the game' for CCP. PvP-only. If all the pvpers were to suddenly up and leave the game would be an empty shell of, well rubbish.
It has 0 Content and depth, beyond gettign players to go shoot at each other.
*shrugs* Yes, 4 1/2 years and still using the same single account. As someeone else said, I stick around to see the new ships that sometimes come out, (actually looking forward to the graphics upgrade, and going in-stations with avatars finally next year...maybe?)
But other then that, EVE is not an MMO, it's a Frag-fest. Think Homeworld on a smaller-scale. You simply take up the role of part of your corp (gather the resources, equipment, build, shoot things, lose/win move around, and do it all again the next day)
All CCP has to do is go: Hmm the players need more ways to shoot each other...you're in a way almost the game itself. If it weren't for you the Pvper, EVE would have sank long ago, or finally got some actuall content to make us feel like the EVE universe is living and breathing, not stagnant around the 'pew-pew'.
All these 'chronicals' I keep reading are enjoyable, but why can't I do things like that in the game? I want to rise up the Amarr Navies ranks, not be a civy. Why did I train at thier academy if I'm not going to be earning some title and recognition like a true Amarr? Why can't I see what's going on around us, instead of what the 'pod-pilots' are shooting today? (Each other usually)
Example: Here we have chaotic forces in 0.0 space, surrounding Jove Space...aren't they in the least concerened? Why are the Empires sitting back without leaders still? Isn't CONCORD getting a tad anxious since it's power-base of trying to police the Empires is basically FUBAR now? Are the Empires going to say: WTF mate, our pod-pilots are trying to outdo us?
In the rush to counter-strike pew-pew, CCP is leaving the 'universe' they started us in behind.
Bring it back please. Is that too much to ask?
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Ahz
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:53:00 -
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I hear you:
I kind of understand where the OP is coming from. After playing for eight months I've had moments of wondering "When does the fun start?"
For me a key problem is that the game too accurately simulates the work / play world. Eve is too much like a job. When it takes so much to get the ISK necessary to play people get risk adverse and begin to only enter into conflicts they can win. This leads to blobs among other unwanted behaviors.
My top recommendations:
- A better corp recruitment system. A key part of enjoying the game is finding the right people and the right situation. I think this'll help a lot
- Some low-risk game environments. The internal mini-game that CCP keeps talking about, Eve-Poker, some limited arena action (maybe frigates only), will help keep the action flowing in ways that won't set you back for weeks with every loss. When the risks are lowered people will be more willing to engage
- Attracting a new type of player. This should be a priority. Maybe walking in stations is just the ticket. But Eve players are currently all of a type. It adds to the games "sameness" everywhere you go
Bottom line is that the only way to keep the variation that will allow the game to live is to allow more diverse ways for players to interact and to attract more diverse players.
CCP can't keep the game fresh on their own. It simply takes more time to write new code than it takes to play through it.
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Dave White
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.07.18 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Lappo
It sounds like you had loads of fun! I hope to have as much to look back on in a few years, as well.
Good luck!
-Joe
dude, your body!
Originally by: CCP kieron
Dave, that sig is freaky and funny at the same time.
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Some Caldari
Caldari
Mantigen Quanta
Ultio Animi Causa
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Posted - 2007.07.19 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Some Caldari on 19/07/2007 00:32:41
Originally by: Splagada
did the end boss drop good loot?
I hear he drops tritanium, lots and lots of tritanium.
Edit: on topic any game that can keep you playing for 3 years must have been doing something right.
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
The Coalition Of Buccaneers
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Posted - 2007.07.19 02:53:00 -
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to the OP, name another game you played non stop for 3 years.
to the rest of you, back to caod where you belong!
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.07.19 02:54:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Paigan
I have played through Eve \o/
No, you did not. BoB are still alive.
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Blind Man
Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.07.19 03:01:00 -
[48]
if anyone asks my why im inactive now ill link them to this thread 
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Xorlev
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Posted - 2007.07.19 03:04:00 -
[49]
If I played EVE for the game, I'd have quit long ago. It's the people that keep me in the game.
That and big honkin' space guns.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.07.19 04:08:00 -
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The op needs to quit life.
When i get bored of eve, i play something else until after about a month i realize eve is probably better and come back to it.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.07.19 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kruel
Indeed. PvP needs some work. Being a Privateer made my dream of Eve come true, but that's over now. No longer can I log in for 15 minutes and expect to get a kill.
The bastards!
SKUNK
Originally by: Fink Angel
They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.07.23 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Pan Crastus on 23/07/2007 14:13:37
I understand what the OP is feeling and I share some of those thoughts.
However, CCP are only to blame for parts of it - namely the bad technical implementation (lag, desyncs) and the boring design of PVE encounters.
What matters more is the fact that PVP (from skirmishes to the strategic side of alliance warfare) is boring, repetitive, predictable - and that's because it depends so much on the players.
Most people are boring, uncreative, predictable and let's be honest - that's what single-player games train us to be. We find a winning strategy and adapt, the same principle we apply to PVP in EVE. We read about nanocurses and train for them. Now in 95% of the cases you meet a Curse, you know exactly what's going to happen (player stupidity adds some variation).
But the real question is, what would you change? Of course CCP could put a lot more effort into PVE encounters and make them more interesting. We'd get more/better loot and it'd take a bit longer to finish them all, but in the end you'd be where you are now. Even WoW, the king of PVE, wears out on you when you have seen 99% of the content. So what would you change in PVP? Rigs have added a bit more flexibility to ships so there's a slightly higher chance that you will meet someone with somewhat unusual fittings.
this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
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4rc4ng3L
Gallente
C R Y O
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.23 15:08:00 -
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Paigan my good man, awesome! 
Death is the only true freedom, brought on by our own ignorance.... Welcome to the "free" world in which we live... |
Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.23 15:17:00 -
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So er...in summary;
"I played this game for 3 years and I think it's mostly rubbish!"
I guess you can't be accused of reaching a snap decision.....
C.
- sig designer - eve mail |
VengerZap
Concealed Judgement
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Posted - 2007.07.23 15:53:00 -
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Couldn't have put it better.
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Jet Savage
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Posted - 2007.07.23 16:02:00 -
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What other cyber game is better?
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SAY HI TO MY PIRANHA DRONES, KISSY KISSY !!
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heheheh
Singularity.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.23 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP
Did you know the word N00b isn't confined to people who havne't been playing long?
Yep, i realize this everytime i read one of your posts.
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furlock
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.07.23 22:33:00 -
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After reading this thread and all the replies so far,you guys do have some good points,but pleaseSTOP MOANING ITS JUST A GAME( a good one at that). if its that bad for you go and play monopoly!
i won eve.
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Llerrad Gabemid
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.23 23:12:00 -
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how does one with so much to complain about have 33mil sp in this game he hates so much?
And dongs. Lots of 'em. |
cal nereus
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.24 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 24/07/2007 03:13:14
I consider one possible victory (not saying it's my version of it) in eve to be when the alliance I'm in has all the sovereign territory in 0.0, is able to prevent anyone from being in low-sec for long without permission from said alliance, and the entire economy is based on how generous the CEOs of the corporations of the alliance are feeling at the time. That's the end of Eve. But then again, I don't suppose individualistic solo players would agree.
Note: I realize that by being in a noob-corp and playing solo (so far) this is totally hypocritical of me. :) But I bet there's a cute little hypocrite deep down inside all of us, relatively close to the liver.
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