One more thing.. I keep seeing.. fleets warp off when a neut enters system.

I multi box often and there are plenty of tools that let me control all my accounts as if I was playing one, tools which have been deemed to be okay by CCP.

So yeah.. If I am in space and see a red enter local I can warp all my ships off at the same time.

Must mean I am a bot and involved in RMT.

One more thing.. I keep seeing.. fleets warp off when a neut enters system.

I multi box often and there are plenty of tools that let me control all my accounts as if I was playing one, tools which have been deemed to be okay by CCP.

So yeah.. If I am in space and see a red enter local I can warp all my ships off at the same time.

Must mean I am a bot and involved in RMT.

Hello botter, nice to meet you.

ISK selling sites do not exist.







You cannot prove that they exist.

ISK selling sites do not exist.







You cannot prove that they exist.

/tinfoil
And who says they are not an CCP sites to provoke players and then remove double ISK gained and getting payed for it.
Its illegal but on the internet.. if there is no suitor there is no cause.
/tinfoil

Over past few weeks I have noticed more and more people accusing null sec alliances of being in Involved in RMT Operations.

Now I am not part of any null sec alliances, I have no affiliation to anybody expect my own Corp and Alliance.

In several posts where somebody has accused an alliance being involved in RMT I have asked for evidence, some thing that backs up their claims and as of yet nobody has shown me any, if fact most of times they simply ignore the request.

Can somebody show me some sort of evidence that shows an alliance or corporation, whether they be in high / low or null that is directly involved in RMT.

Lets once and for all prove or disprove these accusations.

For all those people who truly believe that alliances are involved in RMT.. now is the time to put up or shut up.

People behave out of self interest.

If people are running around hunting bots and sabotaging them in other places than where they live, you have to ask yourself, "What is their motivation?"

As a wormholer we sometimes jump into deep nullsec with fleets of these miners who instantly log off. We see them on d-scan and then their gone off local and d asap. Are they bots? probably but its difficult to prove. Remember bots provide CCP with extra revenue. The fact they refuse almost entirely to even talk about bots is a good indication there not allowed to talk about them.

If they knew botting was a tiny small problem they would announce this and show how they know.

Just try and put yourself in their shoes. You options include:

1. Announce its a problem and spend man-hours dealing with it.
2. Dont talk about It at all and continue gaining revenue for all the extra accounts.
3. Announce its not a problem and hope not to get caught out and lose trust from the player base.

Which option would you choose if your a profit making company?

As a wormholer we sometimes jump into deep nullsec with fleets of these miners who instantly log off. We see them on d-scan and then their gone off local and d asap. Are they bots? probably but its difficult to prove.

Your an idiot.

That's a logical fallacy. Logically speaking, you can say only, "Show and tell, or your accusations are unsubstantiated."

Which is fair enough, but it's not the same thing as disproof.

But seriously I imagine there is some RMT going on in 0.0. Personally I have never heard of it or seen it within my alliance or its allies (or enemies for that matter). More often than not I see RMT accusations being thrown at people just becasue they happen to come from a certain part of the world.

All true and the best place to hide the truth is in a pack of lies.

RMT is real. CCP know it, they just don't hava solution. I don't hold that against them. It doesn't mean I should just accept it though.

Remember there's a difference between "RMT happens.", which I certainly believe, and the mantra that the Russians / Goons / Whoever are in on it and systematically profiteering.

Remember there's a difference between "RMT happens.", which I certainly believe, and the mantra that the Russians / Goons / Whoever are in on it and systematically profiteering.

If there's big money in RMT, and those involved are of a criminal class, then actually doing something about it could get people hurt.

Which is probably the real reason why the game mechanics (local for example) never change that could put a hard hit on botting.

Instead, to counter RMT and bots, ISK faucets have been fully opened and left open.

EVE by its nature accomodates the RMT circles. Killboards, Teamspeak, Vent, GTC affiliates. EVE is the perfect nesting ground for it. You run web sites for a living, playing games all day is just a perc. Forcing 400,000 people to play in such a way that your services are in demand is second nature.

There are however some things that do make you think. Such as the missing trillions in the NC and WN bank accounts which cannot be accounted for.

Got proof?



Got proof?



Okay, that's something solid. Do you have some links about this story that would show systemic RMT in the alliance, rather than someone just draining the wallet and running?

Okay, that's something solid. Do you have some links about this story that would show systemic RMT in the alliance, rather than someone just draining the wallet and running?

Prove I said it. Prove I'm me. Who am I?
Even if I could prove it, it isn't illegal. What's your point, Matlock?

Our corp ran several high up spies in the NC for years. Got wiffs and tidbits of it, money flowed out and several very rich people with access to wallets suddenly stopped playing but nothing solid. We knew it was going on and that the vast bulk of the NC were getting ****** over because of it.

what evidence you need really?
theres tons of RMT sites selling isk and plex at half price.
how do u think they get it? of course from big alliances in 00.