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Teshania
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.01 12:44:00 -
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You really should Evemail all the CSM with this thread ^^ .. make sure they get it so its presented to CCP. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
601
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:50:00 -
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Not a bad idea. I think I might do just that. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
601
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:09:00 -
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Still taking suggestions. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
602
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Posted - 2012.05.03 20:57:00 -
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In light of all of the support and suggestions received on this proposal, I have taken the time to forward the link to this proposal, as well as a personal message to the CSM requesting that they take a look at it.
Thank you for all of your support, suggestions, bitches, gripes and complaints regarding this proposal. I will keep all supporters of this proposal posted as to any feedback I receive. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
615
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Posted - 2012.05.07 23:17:00 -
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Still accepting input and suggestions. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
fantazmythe
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.05.08 02:45:00 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:Michael Loney wrote:Great Idea! I too am moving my mission running around and the shuttle leap-frog back and forth is tedious to say the least.
Small improvement / suggestion?
Add a new option called 'secure for travel' , similar to repackaging but just secures the ship for travel in a Envoy-class ship hold. This would require a component to used like a framework for each class / size of ship. They would be simple T1 gear that can be made anywhere but would add some cost to the whole operation and would be sold and traded. Each Envoy-class would have a separate bay for holding collapsed frames. Even make them take damage per usage so you need to either keep stock or a blueprint handy to make more. Maybe a T2 variant with a password lock so you can secure a rigged ship, password it then contract it for travel but keep it password locked so the chance of theft goes down.
Options: - A frame locked ship cannot be entered with a pod so even if the ship pops out on destruction it cannot be boarded. This also opens the options for trading / swapping rigged ships in space. Still need a station / POS to get into it but can be dropped in space and unless someone has another Envoy-class they can't pick up the ships.
- A T2 frame locked ship will only reveal what class of ship is inside, no other details.
Just my 2 cents. Excellent suggestions! Thank you so much.
this is an excellent idea indeed, makes it a tad tedius but also makes it not completely easy.
also there is one other thing ppl havn't thought of, having a new ship like this would help mineral prices (yes that means making them higher) by the fact that a LOT of mins would be needed to make these ships =) and as someone who mines for his pvp funds AND moves ships arround for said pvp i FULLY support this idea
+1 for me |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
616
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:55:00 -
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Deckington Forgecaster wrote:Why haven't we got this yet?
I can only assume it has something to do with the carebears drowning out all good ideas with their incessant screaming, whining and crying that they should be absolutely safe from gankers in high sec, and Hulkageddon.
Short of that, I would assume it's because we haven't raised enough support for the idea. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
fantazmythe
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:04:00 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:Deckington Forgecaster wrote:Why haven't we got this yet? I can only assume it has something to do with the carebears drowning out all good ideas with their incessant screaming, whining and crying that they should be absolutely safe from gankers in high sec, and Hulkageddon.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one jack. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
617
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Posted - 2012.05.09 02:53:00 -
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Unfortunately the worthless carebears that want ISK just for the sake of having ISK, because there is no real purpose to them having it (as they'll never need to replace PvP ships), are the ones ****ing things up for the rest of us. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
fantazmythe
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:56:00 -
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yup =( |
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:27:00 -
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free bump for a good idea |
Alnaria Fizolna
Hampton Kardin Corporation
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:50:00 -
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Great ideas here =) |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
624
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:08:00 -
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Why thank you.
It's refreshing to see more than the mindless sheep who continually spout off:
"It's called a carrier hurdur.."
"Get an Orca"
Considering both of those ships specialize for one thing or another, when this vessel in and of itself would be highly specialized for the job that it does. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
fantazmythe
Chapter 307 of the Underpants Gnomes Trade Union Obsidian Mining Coalition
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Posted - 2012.05.12 22:12:00 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:Why thank you.
It's refreshing to see more than the mindless sheep who continually spout off:
"It's called a carrier hurdur.."
"Get an Orca"
Considering both of those ships specialize for one thing or another, when this vessel in and of itself would be highly specialized for the job that it does.
exactly!
the orca was designed as an INDUSTRIAL COMMAND SHIP not a hauler. the ship bay is meant for indy ships and mining barges. sick of ppl saying just use it. also as we all know, carriers are low/null sec only.
we really do need a dedicated ship hauler.
it would bring in something new that required mins (allways good) and something new to gank.
NUFF SAID!!! |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
625
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:21:00 -
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And just think of the ISK sink and market warfare. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
fantazmythe
Chapter 307 of the Underpants Gnomes Trade Union Obsidian Mining Coalition
9
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Posted - 2012.05.14 02:35:00 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:And just think of the ISK sink and market warfare.
Imagine indeed |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
628
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Posted - 2012.05.17 17:03:00 -
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Also, imagine the tears if it got ganked and a large majority of the ships dropped. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
628
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Posted - 2012.05.18 18:43:00 -
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Anyone else have any suggestions?
Let's keep this thing going. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
628
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:52:00 -
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Need more support for this venture. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
629
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Posted - 2012.05.21 18:06:00 -
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There are a plethora of reasons this should be implemented. So with that, let's get some more support and exposure to CSM/Devs. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
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Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen Infernal Creations
225
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Posted - 2012.05.22 01:11:00 -
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Bump cause I remember this taking off..... how long ago? lol hopefully CCP sees that is refusing to go down E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us
Heil Hizzle Mein Nizzles. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
630
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Posted - 2012.05.22 01:35:00 -
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This idea was spawned in November of last year, and was posted in Features and Ideas first, and after the overwhelming feedback and support it received there, I brought it to Assembly Hall in January of this year. Once again, it was met with overwhelming support and feedback. This idea came to me as an idea of something that would prove to be extremely useful to just about anyone on all fronts for actual logistical applications. It would revolutionize the transport of warships across space (high/low/null) and would create a new sub-career path for those interested in mass transit.
As a result of the massive response I have gotten to this idea, I was given the suggestion of forwarding this to the CSM.
I was met with a less than promising response at first, however, the member of the CSM who I spoke with then said that they would look it over, and upon looking it over said that this was indeed an interesting idea and that they would keep it handy.
I still haven't gotten a chance to sketch what my vision of how the Envoy-class Vessels would look, but that's due to real life constraints. But, given the chance, I'll get them done eventually, and will post links to where the pictures are hosted as soon as I get them done.
So thank you all for your support, and no, I am not giving up, and not letting this idea go quietly into the night. Keep the posts coming, and let's turn this thing into a threadnaught of epic proportions. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
631
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:10:00 -
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Let's keep this idea fresh in the eyes of the masses. Everyone needs simplified logistical assets. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:56:00 -
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+1 I remember reading up a freighter and seeing that no, you can't lug around fitted ships which is ridiculous.
Forgive me if it's already been suggested, but an alternative implementation could be to add low slots to freighters. Pilots would then have a choice to fit Freighter-class cargo holds or ship hangars (or a mix). Power grid limits could make these slots useless for tanking (if that's a concern). Maybe we could call them TARP-class vessels. Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
634
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:43:00 -
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The initial sketch of the Bedouin-class is complete. Will post a link once I add more shading and get it scanned. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Zanban
Stealth Sector The Revenant Order
23
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:43:00 -
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Still a bad ass idea and I support it 100% |
Serina Tsukaya
Lonetrek Trade and Industries Test Friends Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:45:00 -
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A ship specially designed for this role isn't the worst idea in the world, but at the same time, there are two ships that cover some of the bases.
Supercarriers (aka Motherships) Titans.
Titan bridges can be used for quick redeployment and even be set up as a ferry system that people can use to move ships very quickly.
The titan has a 5 Million M3 Ship maintenance array.
Super carrier has a 2,5 Million m3 Ship maintenance array.
At the same time, there is a need for something that doesn't require that much resources for such logistics. Then again, how tanked would this tug be, and how viable would it be to actually use in hostile space?
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
639
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Posted - 2012.05.24 17:30:00 -
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Well the issue is with those ships, is they can only be effectively utilized in low and nullsec. That leaves high sec shorted, but then again, you being a member of one of the nullsec blocs, I can't expect you to want anything to help high sec. I am putting forth this idea as something that will directly help everyone in New Eden, and not favor any one group.
Sure, in low sec and null sec, Supercarriers and Titans are effective.
But in high sec, the Orca is inadequate, as it is an Industrial Command Ship. It is not meant to haul ships around, and contracting involves having someone else accepting and then failing a contract, only to trade the item to you. A ship that could be utilized to actually haul these around rigged is ideal. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Temmu Guerra
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
63
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Posted - 2012.05.24 21:14:00 -
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Still supported... |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
640
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:30:00 -
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Alright, as promised (after finally getting the time to sit down and do it), I have generated a rough sketch of the first of the Envoy-class vessels. It is a very rough sketch utilizing a mechanical pencil, pen and a traffic crash template I use for work.
So, after an exceedingly long wait, I give you the rough sketch for the Bedouin-class Envoy, which is the Minmatar vessel. As the concept is a Tech 1, Tier 2 Freighter, it is based on the Fenrir-class Freighter.
The picture can be found here:
http://shdop.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=156521203 "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
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