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AnarchistUK	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:12:00 - [1] This game is borderline screwed. With so many ships, pods, implants being lost due to desyncs (not talking about normal lag here) since Rev 2. Patches have been released to address the desyncs (so CCP admit there are issues), only for their logs to show nothing when you lose your beloved ship. They give you the copy and paste treatment in petitions? Fine! I've set a long skill on both accounts and payments stopped. They want to fob us off with copy and paste? Then they don't get our money. This is the only way for CCP to acknowledge, we don't want new shiney stuff, we want the damn game fixed and reimburse for THEIR server issues!!! Set a long skill, end the payments, sign the forum. They can't ban us all!!!
Katarina Hetiako	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:15:00 - [2] Nooooooooooooooo! Another whine... Please dear god, if you have something to say, write to CCP (or stick it in the many threads that already exsit), I've read this particualar whine so many times I'll probably go to the grave with it on my mind! If you don't like it, you are in full control of your subscription.
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:16:00 - [3] /Signed Fix the game please! -----------------------------------------------
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:16:00 - [4] "*" is the captivating cognomen of a Young Woman of cambridge, mass. to whom nobody seems to have mentioned ye olde freudian wish; when i contemplate her uneyes safely ensconced in thick glass you try if we are a gentleman not to think of(sh) the world renowned investigator of paper sailors--argonauta argo harmoniously being with his probably most brilliant pupil mated, let us not deem it miraculous if their(so to speak)offspring has that largo appearance of somebody who was hectocotyliferously propagated when Miss G touched n.y. our skeleton stepped from his cupboard gallantly offering to demonstrate the biggest best busiest city and presently found himself rattling for that well known suburb the bronx(enlivening an otherwise dead silence with harmless quips, out of Briggs by Kitty) arriving in an exhausted condition, i purchased two bags of lukewarm peanuts with the dime which her mama had generously provided(despite courte- ous protestations) and offering Miss * one(which she politely refused)set out gaily for the hyenas suppressing my frank qualms in deference to her not inobvious perturba- tions unhappily, the denizens of the zoo were that day inclined to be uncouthly erotic more particularly the primates--from which with dignity square feet turned abruptly Miss * away: "on the whole"(if you will permit a metaphor savouring slightly of the demotic) Miss * had nothing to say to the animals and the animals had nothing to say to Miss * during our return voyage, my pensive companion dimly remarlted some- thing about "stuffed fauna" being "very interesting" . . . we also discussed the possibility of rain. . . E distant proximity to a Y.W.c.a. she suddenly luffed --thanking me; and(stating that she hoped we might "meet again sometime")vanished, gunwale awash. I thereupon loosened my collar and dove for the nearest l; surreptitiously cogitating the dictum of a new england sculptor(well on in life)re the helen moller dancers, whom he considered "elevating--that is, if dancing CAN be ele- vating" Miss(believe it or)* is a certain Young Woman unacquainted with the libido and pursuing a course of instruction at radcliffe college, cambridge, mass. i try if you are a gentleman not to sense something un poco putrido when we contemplate her uneyes safely ensconced in thick glass
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:17:00 - [5] /signed Term "fleet battles" is a false advertisement in the marketing campaign of EvE == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Nightbird Neogen Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:17:00 - [6] /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game.
Ggrimreaper Dreamscape Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:19:00 - [7] /signed and at the first reply, if you read he says he has cancelled subscription etc... but even with everyone cancelling the issue isn't going to go away.. ok by us all signing this it won't either but hopefully the more posts like this there are the sooner they will realise these issue STILL exist and will either fix them or refund losses.. there have been billions of isks lost due to this bug.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:27:00 - [9] Owned?
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:28:00 - [10] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... Bwahahahahaha! Owned. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION \| Forum Whiners - Unite!

Ggrimreaper Dreamscape Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:28:00 - [11] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... with all due respect Wrangler I know of at least a dozen ppl from our alliance who have quit and i know of quite a few more thinking about it...
Katarina Hetiako	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:29:00 - [12] I think it is Sparta Alliance that's broken... That's what you get from inheriting territory hanging onto the tails of MC's assault up north, say are you guys BoB pets?
Sir Appa	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:31:00 - [13] null Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... /Signed. Maybe it's time you found a better way to do things. Would you like to watch a fleet battle to get things strait? oh wait, no, that wouldn't work you wouldn't be able to see anything because your screen would probably freeze up, or you'd end up at the login screen.
Maeltstome Minmatar Caldari Navy Raiders Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:31:00 - [14] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... Thats borderline flaming, and sounds very unethical coming from a CCP employee. Desync and lag are 2 diffrent things. i've never had a desync, but im sure i'd be ****ed off if i had to deal with loosing iskies due to the inability of eve's code to deal with large numbers of people in 1 system.
oniplE NED-Clan R i s e	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:31:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... I think we can all agree on the fact that the increase was not caused by improved game stability :)
elohllird Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:32:00 - [16] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... Not funny wrangler baby, engage brain before making off the cuff remarks.
Prydeless Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:32:00 - [17] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... Freakin pwned Disclaimer: I am a God.
C601	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:32:00 - [18] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Owned? He maybe, but if Wrangler is right with higher numbers, that can only mean more lag. The only people who will be "owned" is the paying customer.
Barkode Fourth Dimension	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:32:00 - [19] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... Selling out will get you everywhere. -----
AnarchistUK	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:32:00 - [20] Edited by: AnarchistUK on 01/08/2007 23:33:23 Originally by: Katarina Hetiako I think it is Sparta Alliance that's broken... That's what you get from inheriting territory hanging onto the tails of MC's assault up north, say are you guys BoB pets? This is about the game mechanics, not war... if anyone has experienced desyncs and get jack in their petitions (server logs show nothing blah blah blah), then read original thread. This is purely about the mechanics and CCP should stop copy and pasting. As for being OWNED? wtf? lol of course CCP will say that... they can't look bad in the public eye! Oh noes!

Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:35:00 - [21] Originally by: AnarchistUK Edited by: AnarchistUK on 01/08/2007 23:33:23 Originally by: Katarina Hetiako I think it is Sparta Alliance that's broken... That's what you get from inheriting territory hanging onto the tails of MC's assault up north, say are you guys BoB pets? This is about the game mechanics, not war... if anyone has experienced desyncs and get jack in their petitions (server logs show nothing blah blah blah), then read original thread. This is purely about the mechanics and CCP should stop copy and pasting. As for being OWNED? wtf? lol of course CCP will say that... they can't look bad in the public eye! Oh noes! So what do you want them to do about it aside from fix it? And how are you helping this fixing process? I'm sure you've filed detailed bug reports every time you've encountered a desync, right? ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION \| Forum Whiners - Unite!
Mari Onette Amarr	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:35:00 - [22] Edited by: Mari Onette on 01/08/2007 23:40:47 Originally by: Ggrimreaper with all due respect Wrangler I know of at least a dozen ppl from our alliance who have quit and i know of quite a few more thinking about it... I thought Spartans were supposed to fight to the (node) death... As an aside, I don't mind that older players are leaving the game. It means 1 less 3 year old player with a dreadnaught that I have to worry about. The loss of players with lots of experience is saddening, and it is saddening to those who knew the players, but from a gameplay standpoint it is not that bad, provided you are getting new players and retaining them (which ccp is doing a fairly good job at I'd say). Old players leaving means that there is a power vacuum that newer players can fill. It's sad to see old faces go, but it's even cooler to meet new awesome people. ------ I am in blood! Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more, it would be as tedious as going over. -MacBeth
Fader Bane Black Knight Buccaneers Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:36:00 - [23] please lock this thread. its even causing CCP members to flame. ________________________________________
Ggrimreaper Dreamscape Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:38:00 - [24] Originally by: Katarina Hetiako I think it is Sparta Alliance that's broken... That's what you get from inheriting territory hanging onto the tails of MC's assault up north, say are you guys BoB pets? and again with all due respect, YOU KNOW NOTHING!!! and more importantly THIS IS NOT ABOUT SPARTA.. ignore the corps or the alliances in this and read the text.. it's is saying the game is broken due to desyncs and it's annoying various ppl.. I know of several alliances/Corps who have suffered from this, latest of which is MC today.. now on a side note, before trying to slag SPARTA off I suggest you do some reading about us first, you will find that we fought MC when they came up here, we lost billions fighting them.. and for our reward we were shot at by blues.. there's several posts here and on EVE tribune...
Katarina Hetiako	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:38:00 - [25] Originally by: Mari Onette I thought Spartans were supposed to fight to the (node) death... I did too, but seems it is Sparta by name and not by nature... Good point about the bug reports, if you're in a posistion to experience these things, bug report them and help CCP help you!

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:39:00 - [26] Originally by: Ggrimreaper Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... with all due respect Wrangler I know of at least a dozen ppl from our alliance who have quit and i know of quite a few more thinking about it... Well, the average time a person stays with a MMOG is somewhere between 6 and 12 months, very roughly, so any corporation or alliance would have people joining and leaving at any time. I'm not saying there aren't issues with EVE, though we do work hard to get things resolved, we're constantly working on improving hardware, software and content. But I see the subscription numbers, and the idea that EVE is going to die because people are leaving is simply not true, those subscription numbers go up every month. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Ggrimreaper before trying to slag SPARTA off I suggest you do some reading about us first, you will find that we fought MC when they came up here, we lost billions fighting them.. and for our reward we were shot at by blues.. But, that's...that is Blasphemy! That's madness! ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION \| Forum Whiners - Unite!
AnarchistUK	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:42:00 - [28] THEY HAVE GAGGED ME FOR PASTING THIS LINK IN JITA.... You have been gagged by GM Faolchu until 2007.08.02 01:36:09. GM Faolchu's reason was: Swearing in Public Chat Channels. I didn't swear at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They think they can shut us up?!
Nightbird Neogen Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:44:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Nightbird /signed. Your game is broken, and people are leaving. Your customer service is lacking, and it will be the downfall of this game. That's strange, cause I just checked the subscription numbers, and apart from them increasing every month, this month had an even bigger increase than last month... So then wrangler, allow me to ask the following questions: 1. Why do you feel new customer acquisition is more important than customer retention? 2. After that fleet battle in UEJ last week, how many subscriptions did you lose in the following 24-hour period? I personally expect that the number is more than 5 times your normal account loss per day. 3. In the past month, has the average number of skill points in eve, based on active subscriptions, increased or decreased. 4. Why has the escalated petition of a senior player and alliance leader, who himself has several characters well over 35 million skill points, not been responded to. 5. Why, despite numerous petitions of the same issue, do the GMs continue to respond with the same copy/paste response? 6. Why have GMs closed petitions and threatened with players with disciplinary action when time and time again it is clear that there IS a problem, server logs notwithstanding. Lastly.... you seem to have missed the point of this thread. The issue is quality, not quantity of the player base. There are, I'm sure, several accounts that quit every day, and there are new players who replace the old. Such is the natural life cycle of the game. But, when many of your older, more experienced players, players who have contributed wads of real-world cash over multiple years for multiple accounts, tell you there is a problem with your product, you have to listen. You have to investigate, and you have to act. Worse... your game advertises "Massive Fleet Battles"... and I can think of several incidents in the past week alone where this has been proven blatantly false. I say that your customer service is lacking, simply because you are misrepresenting your product and service incorrectly. That, above all else, is a disservice to your customers. Yes... I could just quit, but I've put far too much time and effort into my characters, and have gone through too much with my corp and alliance to simply call up the account management page and select quit. I'm just staying around, patiently hoping that CCP is able to fix this critical issue. But there are limits to everyone's patience. Increased concurrent user records mean nothing if the game cannot function as it was designed.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.08.01 23:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Nightbird 4. Why has the escalated petition of a senior player and alliance leader, who himself has several characters well over 35 million skill points, not been responded to. Yes. I would also like to know why this person hasn't been treated better than everyone else, and allowed access to the REAL Eve that never has any lag, and no spam, and no farmers, and no whining? Seriously. What a world we live in where older players don't get special treatment! Damn all you to hell!



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