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Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 03:53:00 - [91] Originally by: Speed Devil if anyone wants free ore The scumsucker is located at Halaima VII - Moon 6 - Caldari Provisions Warehouse station in the Halaima system of the Uusasai constellation. yes this is savvon :p and he lives in a 0.7 so if anyone funds me a dominix ill kill his hulk before concord gets me Actually, this is Savvon. I do not "live" in Halamima, but I am currently mining Ice in that system. Last week I was mining Omber and next week it will be kernite. See, I move around a lot. Since you are not a miner, I wouldn't expect you to grasp that concept. If you wish to come try and kill me please, I need more video for my "Miner's guide" that will have a section on how to defend against griefers. Just got a Ferox on video that was beautiful. Cannot wait to upload it to Google video. On a side note, I think it is hilarious that you need someone else to fund you in your attempt in killing me. I will be in Halamima for a few more days, come on over. All I ask is try to kill me in a Caldari ship, I build those.
port22 Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:11:00 - [92] I started the game mining with Savvon. Not proud to admit i once mined but there it is. We parted ways early on. I dont defend Savvon here but he is a general all round nice guy. I do however find this post an ego trip for him. 'Im a Miner, look at me, i bet my raven will whoop a few of you pirates.... etc etc' Miners form an important part of the game. PVP'rs will call you lots of names and have hostility towards you, deal with it. End of story
Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:12:00 - [93] Originally by: Frug Everyone should pitch in a few million. Lets kill this guy as many times as we can. I mean, he makes valid points but I disagree with him because I cannot PvP and I need to make ISK and killing miners is the only PvP I can do! FIXED! Is that a threat of harassment? Even if it is not (up to CCP after I report it), you will need at least a BS to even dent my shields. Oops! I have said to much. pssst, little secret...I pod!
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:16:00 - [94] You're hurting my feelings. I'm reporting you for harassment. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:21:00 - [95] Originally by: Frug You're hurting my feelings. I'm reporting you for harassment. Make sure when you send in your petition it is a valid one. Abusing the petition system is against the rules and a bannable offense. For your personal information, I am in Halamima right now just mining away in my Hulk. You kill me and a ton of good loot can be yours. /gets Fraps ready
port22 Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:23:00 - [96] Originally by: Savvon Edited by: Savvon on 06/08/2007 04:17:24 Edited by: Savvon on 06/08/2007 04:15:48 Originally by: Frug Everyone should pitch in a few million. Lets kill this guy as many times as we can. I mean, he makes valid points but I disagree with him because I cannot PvP and I need to make ISK and killing miners is the only PvP I can do! FIXED! Is that a threat of harassment? Even if it is not (up to CCP after I report it), you will need at least a BS to even dent my shields. Oops! I have said to much. pssst, little secret...I pod! port22, Long time no talk. I help out many miners like I did you. Many. Teaching them how to mine, what to skill and helping them buy their first ships. It's what I do. By the way, you are welcome for the help I gave many months (years?) ago. However, if anyone is going to try to gank me, I will pod them and defend myself in game and on the forums. Your definition of "power trip" is my definition of Eve survival. I rest my case on the ego trip.
mikaelim	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:28:00 - [97] Originally by: Curzon Dax Woot! mikaelim has learned how to break apart a message in order to take things out of context so that he might interpret them individually for his own benefit. What nonsense is this? Are you on medication? Originally by: Curzon Dax clears his throat Based on your expert example, let me try peering at your own post for the relevant content. Your post on the other hand is a prime example of content. Originally by: Curzon Dax i threaten my family because i play by the rules. Did I say that? its all clear now. I like good boys. see it now? I seriously think I have not a sign of common sense. I have been smacked. It has nothing to do with you. Yes, how entertaining! No, not at all. But your exaggerated and ill-willed response makes clear i hit the nail on the head.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:40:00 - [98] Lol he logged off. There's some concord and an ibis wreck at the belt. Too bad he's a pansy. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:44:00 - [99] miaelim, this thread is delivering. Don't ruin the trend with your jibberish, just let it flow without your spite. :) gets out popcorn
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:50:00 - [100] That's it curzon. You're starting to get on my nerves now. Prepare for harassment and verbal abuse like you've never seen, you nublet. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Jarek Neltharek Caldari Free Space Development Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:52:00 - [101] Any reported kills yet? I'm dying for an update!
port22 Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.08.06 04:52:00 - [102] LOL Guys, like ease up. Its forums. Dont take anything anyone says seriously or to heart. Damn im bored at work. :p
Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 05:03:00 - [103] Originally by: Frug Lol he logged off. There's some concord and an ibis wreck at the belt. Too bad he's a pansy. Not logged, rebooted. I feel so popular that I am being stalked via "friends" list. I am on now mining. Lets see what you got.
Gentle Glide Silent Scream	Posted - 2007.08.06 05:33:00 - [104] No. Originally by: CCP t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.08.06 05:34:00 - [105] Originally by: port22 LOL Guys, like ease up. Its forums. Dont take anything anyone says seriously or to heart. Damn im bored at work. :p That's it port22. You're starting to get on my nerves now. Prepare for harassment and verbal abuse like you've never seen, you nublet. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
port22 Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.08.06 05:45:00 - [106] Originally by: Frug Originally by: port22 LOL Guys, like ease up. Its forums. Dont take anything anyone says seriously or to heart. Damn im bored at work. :p That's it port22. You're starting to get on my nerves now. Prepare for harassment and verbal abuse like you've never seen, you nublet. Im feeling the lubb :D
Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 06:27:00 - [107] Frug, Please don't tell me you are like the rest and just cower to a miner. Put up or shut up! btw, still waiting.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.06 07:03:00 - [108] Originally by: Gentle Glide No. Agreed. --- Grismar.net
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.06 07:03:00 - [109] I don'nt hate you Join The Fight With Promo Today
MasterDecoy Gallente The Grifters	Posted - 2007.08.06 07:28:00 - [110] i hate you Originally by: Gan Dalf What's going on? Why is TQ down? Who is "GMT"? What's 'Reality', will it hurt?
Kayna Eelai	Posted - 2007.08.06 07:32:00 - [111] Originally by: Eternus8lux8lucis People dont know why miners mine. Its to build and work hard and honestly at something. Its about construction and not destruction. Its about building empires owith bricks, not with blood. Miners are like the true workers of any society. Faithful, dilligent and hardworking people. i love pew pew (be it pve or pvp) but i just have to say one thing: AMEN TO THAT! i understand very well why miners mine. but i also understand very well why piewates "try" to kill em (apparent ez-loot). i hate macroers or cheaters in any game of any type. and i hate ppl. who call others names without a darn clue.
Anila's Delight	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:07:00 - [112] I understand the concerns in the original post, but the orginal poster has lost all credibility to me due to whining. Originally by: Savvon However, I got one person banned last night for harassment. I didn't know GM's made banning decisions public knowledge. Oh and Curzon, will you have my man babies :) Originally by: Altrex Conclusive proof ladies and gentlemen that WoW kills brain cells.
Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:10:00 - [113] Edited by: Savvon on 06/08/2007 08:11:46 Originally by: Anila's Delight I didn't know GM's made banning decisions public knowledge. They don't. However, when someone harasses you for three days straight in game, you tend to notice when they are gone. Justice! For the record, I really do not care about anyone's opinion about my credibility. Whether you hate me or not, the simple fact is that it is a problem and as a miner I am done turning the other cheek. I am fighting back after 3 years of worsening behavior. It is not my problem if the kiddies cannot handle the heat.
Ethaet Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:19:00 - [114] Time to add my comments to this thread. I mine in 0.5 and 0.6, in a very busy system with large numbers of asteroid belts. I do not jetcan mine, ore thieves are far too common, but thats fine with me. I have only ever encountered an idiot in a shuttle once I have only ever been PM'd once and never mailed asking if I was a macro and they were very polite about it then said sorry for asking when I told them I was not (although maybe my CSPA prevents most of that stuff :) ). In local, the only messages regarding mining are 'can I salvage your wrecks' and 'do you mind if I rat in your belt', which are both fine by me, especially killing the rats as it saves me having to get my drones out :) I am guessing the OP is in caldari space which is generally overpopulated and infested with noobs, but in other areas it isn't that bad. ---------- CONCORD Notice: Don't drink and fly. Drunken jumping can result in loss of ship through "navigational error".
port22 Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:21:00 - [115] Originally by: Savvon Edited by: Savvon on 06/08/2007 08:11:46 Originally by: Anila's Delight I didn't know GM's made banning decisions public knowledge. They don't. However, when someone harasses you for three days straight in game, you tend to notice when they are gone. Justice! For the record, I really do not care about anyone's opinion about my credibility. Whether you hate me or not, the simple fact is that it is a problem and as a miner I am done turning the other cheek. I am fighting back after 3 years of worsening behavior. It is not my problem if the kiddies cannot handle the heat. lmao How long were you away from the game for Savvon may I ask?
MasterDecoy Gallente The Grifters	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:44:00 - [116] Originally by: Savvon It is not my problem if the kiddies cannot handle the heat. yo yo check this! check yoself before you wreck yoself! yo griefin' kiddies can't handle the heat ya'll ima put joo into the seat i'd be doing driveby's in a hulk im so damn hot it's not my fault there's no suicide ganks that i can't tank you be stealin' from my jet can? i don't even need no wing man! you be dissin' the rockerzÖ is about the same as***-blockerz! makes no difference to me im still yo sugar daddy! you knows i gots the perfect petition to put yo suckerz out of commission! Yo MAMA! PEACE! Originally by:** Gan Dalf What's going on? Why is TQ down? Who is "GMT"? What's 'Reality', will it hurt?
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:53:00 - [117] Originally by: Savvon Frug, Please don't tell me you are like the rest and just cower to a miner. Put up or shut up! btw, still waiting. Oh I went there for a while but you remained docked, so I left. Anyway, I think you should know now why everyone hates miners. Too many of them are pansy weenie little carebareling crybaby kiddies who are busy petitioning everyone for harassment when someone tries to fight them in a game of space piracy. Someone bugs you, you cry petition like a little girl. Someone bugs me, I flame them and start lobbing missiles. The missile part is rarely effective . Originally by: port22 Im feeling the lubb :D Be quiet you ** *** *** **** eater. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Del Narveux Dukes of Hazard	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:57:00 - [118] Miner hate comes from three sources 1. People who dont mine and dont like anyone who doesnt play the game the same way they do. We all know the type, blah blah blah i am teh elite killar and i hate n00bz and everyone whos not a smacktalking ganker like me. Miners sometimes pull this ** too, so its sort of a two way street. 2. People who think youre a macro. Fact is, in a given populated highsec system at least 50% of the barges are macros, I know thats not your fault as a miner thats just how it is and some people are sort of slow in determining the difference between a macro and a real player. A good way to cut down on almost all of this is to join a player corp if you havent already, because macros never join corps due to the wardec risk and a lot of people are inherently distrustful of NPC corp people because many people abuse NPC protections for various dubious practices. 3. Jealousy. Ive known some people who hate miners because they get 'easy money' though from personal experience mining is actually worse than most other professions from an income-per-hour basis. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by:** Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 08:57:00 - [119] Originally by: Frug Oh I went there for a while but you remained docked, so I left. If I was docked, I make no isk. I have been there all day. You never showed up and I have been mining ever since. I want to wait for your uber missile skills to tear through my paper thin Hulk. or... If you cannot put up, shut up!
port22 Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.08.06 09:06:00 - [120] Originally by: MasterDecoy Originally by: Savvon It is not my problem if the kiddies cannot handle the heat. yo yo check this! check yoself before you wreck yoself! yo griefin' kiddies can't handle the heat ya'll ima put joo into the seat i'd be doing driveby's in a hulk im so damn hot it's not my fault there's no suicide ganks that i can't tank you be stealin' from my jet can? i don't even need no wing man! you be dissin' the rockerzÖ is about the same as*****-blockerz! makes no difference to me im still yo sugar daddy! you knows i gots the perfect petition to put yo suckerz out of commission! Yo MAMA! PEACE! That guy is a miner!

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