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Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.06 18:48:00 - [151] I love how everyone is taking a shot at analyzing me. Diagnostics from forum psychologist are always welcome. The facts: I stated my opinion that I am sick of being harrased while minding my own business mining. I have been constantly bombarded ever since in game and on the forums. People have followed me in other threads with the usual insults, Eve mailing me in game and trying to suicide me. More facts: I have 2 attempts of suicide ganking on Fraps and one of which is a Ferox. He was podded by the way. When you insult and/or call me names, you will be reported. I will defend my point of views and not lay down while bullies kick me. You might think this is anger, but in fact, its simply a person who stands tall against bullies. Everyone knows where I am mining for the next few days. I invite anyone of you to come and try to suicide me. The only thing you will get is laughed at, Frapped and podded.
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech	Posted - 2007.08.06 19:14:00 - [152] if you want a place to mine in peace, just run a few missions. there are a few level 3 missions with decent amounts of omber and are not even a "deadspace". But many have large amounts of veldspar if you want to mine that too. For example, Downing the Slavers (2 of 2) has 400k units of omber in the first room. there is also exploration, which usually provides better ores anyway. generally, with a little effort, i find it easy enough to avoid mining in the public asteroid belts entirely. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
MECHcore Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.08.06 19:16:00 - [153] I dont hate miners , everyone plays the game on his own way. Unfortunatly eve is filled with stealing , scamming and smacking scum. Thats one of the reasons i devoted me to be antipirate , now and then i hang out in lowsec hunting some bastids , if people in trouble see me in local they can always drop me a line and i will gladly try to help them out. I once had reports of a high sec system infested with orestealers , i was abit bored and putted my alt there mining with my main on a close safe aligned , what followed where fireworks all night Anyway Savvon dont listen to some of the kids around here , do what you want to do and try to have fun. May the light shine upon ur path.. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Hango ([email protected])
Bentula	Posted - 2007.08.06 19:21:00 - [154] Originally by: Savvon Edited by: Savvon on 04/08/2007 10:29:45 More specifically, why the hate towards me for being a miner for simply mining? I have been playing Eve since 2004. Since day one I have mined. I enjoy mining. I am to mining what some of the top end pilots are to PvP. I enjoy every aspect of mining, especially the ôbusiness simö part of it. I never complain on these forums about mining or its mechanics. I have been pretty happy with the overall ôclassö and have had some very interesting adventures in my time here. Recently though, some people have been trying my patience by: 1.Being harassed in belts by n00b ôpiratesö in high sec trying to get me to shoot at their shuttle. We all know why. I just ignore them. 2.Ore thieves stealing from jet cans. It has gotten so bad I just use a Hulk with cargo extenders in high sec. 3.Constant PMÆs asking if I am a bot or if I am ôthereö. Some PMÆs just calling me derogatory names assuming I am not at the keyboard. I turned off my PMÆs. 4.Eve hate mails saying I am ruining the game but never telling me how. I am assuming it is because ôallö miners are bots. 5.In local channel people call miners (especially ice miners) all sorts of derogatory names just for mining there. Over the years it has gotten a little worse year by year. Some might call me a carebear (even though I can probably show you a thing or two in my Raven with my capped missile/shield/drone skills) and some might not understand why I enjoy mining. No matter what you think of my game play or my preference, it truly is none of your concern and definitely does not give anyone the right to treat others like some of you have been. The point I want to make is. I mine. Leave me alone. If you do not, you will be reported to CCP for harassment. 100% agree. I have seen this stuff happen while flying my transport alt through empire(not to mention talk in npc corps), its just not acceptable. You can kill people or wardec them, steal from them or whatever, but dont attack someone personally just cause you dont like the way he spends his time in eve. You simply have no right at all to do so and getting reported for harassment is the least you deserve. Honestly, enemies who have been fighting each other for years in 0.0 treat each other better than some random strangers in empire do. If you dont have something good to say, its better to say nothing at all. P.S.@Savvon: Since im just a alt i can safely advise you to look for a any 0.0 alliance without looking like trying to advertise my own. 0.0 is not just about pvp, you can avoid that in some industrial alliances(not to mention industrialists actually get appreciated if you cant just buy ships and mods on market, built me shiny toys pls), 0.0 is mainly about the people and moving there will mean alot less hassle with assheads.
Guilliman R Gallente PRO Space Hunters Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.06 19:32:00 - [155] Edited by: Guilliman R on 06/08/2007 19:34:38 Originally by: Savvon You can kill people or wardec them, steal from them or whatever, but dont attack someone personally just cause you dont like the way he spends his time in eve. You simply have no right at all to do so and getting reported for harassment is the least you deserve. Is this bannable, if not why not? (Directed at mods/GM/CCP, whoever knows" I'll read trough the EULA once I have some free time, but I'd like to know. If not, can we make it bannable in some way (legaly speaking)? edit, just for those who would flame me. I don't care if you wardeck/steal from me/gank/blob me ingame, thats Eve. But I take it not lightly for personal attacks, it's the lowest for of "a fight". ---sig--- Carebear for life (unless I am in the advantage and have 99% chance of winning(, hey 1% chance to lose, thats risk right, good!)!*
Lance Hawke Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2007.08.06 19:33:00 - [156] ahahaha oh ** i laughed so hard i think i ed a little I move away from the mic to breathe in
Bentula	Posted - 2007.08.06 19:55:00 - [157] Originally by: Guilliman R Is this bannable, if not why not? (Directed at mods/GM/CCP, whoever knows" I'll read trough the EULA once I have some free time, but I'd like to know. If not, can we make it bannable in some way (legaly speaking)? *edit, just for those who would flame me. I don't care if you wardeck/steal from me/gank/blob me ingame, thats Eve. But I take it not lightly for personal attacks, it's the lowest for of "a fight". Thats what is called harassment(own category in petitions). It completly depends on how the GM sees it, generally you can get away with alot if you keep it incharakter, but if you start to aim your namecalling at the person behind the PC you get into trouble. Calling a amarr that tried to suicide you a bloody slavedriving religious terrorist you might get away with(i would like to say will get away with, but obviously i cant give out guerantees), but calling a muslim IRL a bloody slavedriving religious terrorist is most likely going to get you into a convo with a GM pretty fast(if they actually bother to convo people before handing out warnings and bans).
dragonssbane Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.08.06 20:03:00 - [158] It is not the profession that is receiving the hate. Its the person behind the character. Basically if you act like a tard and persist on being an asshat, then you are going to get some unwanted attention. (Or wanted in your case apparently) Also I read a passage where you were bragging about your skills and challenging other folk to try to gank you. Dude... How can you whine about people messing with you when you are challenging your would be "aggressors". You are in a one man corp and I think I know why. No one wants to put up with you crap. It was suggested that you come out to 0.0 space and join an alliance. Let me save you some trouble. Don't, you will not last 2 days...and most likely you will end up with a KOS.
Guilliman R Gallente PRO Space Hunters Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.06 20:22:00 - [159] Originally by: Bentula Originally by: Guilliman R Is this bannable, if not why not? (Directed at mods/GM/CCP, whoever knows" I'll read trough the EULA once I have some free time, but I'd like to know. If not, can we make it bannable in some way (legaly speaking)? edit, just for those who would flame me. I don't care if you wardeck/steal from me/gank/blob me ingame, thats Eve. But I take it not lightly for personal attacks, it's the lowest for of "a fight". Thats what is called harassment(own category in petitions). It completly depends on how the GM sees it, generally you can get away with alot if you keep it incharakter, but if you start to aim your namecalling at the person behind the PC you get into trouble. Calling a amarr that tried to suicide you a bloody slavedriving religious terrorist you might get away with(i would like to say will get away with, but obviously i cant give out guerantees), but calling a muslim IRL a bloody slavedriving religious terrorist is most likely going to get you into a convo with a GM pretty fast(if they actually bother to convo people before handing out warnings and bans). Figured it was something like that, good I say. I was just wondering, as lately, the forumers' reaction seems to state other wise "badmouthing me this,", "calling my mom a ho that" etc. I, for a moment, readning the forums sounded like there was no policie against such form of harasment. If people bothered spend as much time to petition people (lets say the immature people) that call people names/insult them irl as they would spend making a whine treath on the forums, eve would be a place with mature people and no kiddies! (hey, you're a kid in your head if you cant behave rationatly by calling people names/insult themselves/family/friends irl) ---sig--- Carebear for life (unless I am in the advantage and have 99% chance of winning(, hey 1% chance to lose, thats risk right, good!)!*
Tribalist	Posted - 2007.08.06 20:34:00 - [160] This Topic Delivers!!!! If a great scam Savvon has too He gets everyone all bent out of shape and trying to gank hi in high sec where we all know he is perfectly safe and has CONCORD to protect him. And then he scoops the loot and salvage... I bet he dosen't even have to mine anymore! BRILLIANT!! So when is someone gonna petition him for griefing all the poor pirates who try and kill him who are simply reacting to his on-line goads? HE MUST BE STOPPED! There are pirates who would NEVER have even HEARD of Savvon being victimized by him through CONCORD, this sort of griefing must stop! Fly Safe - Fly Drunk- Tribe. (pretend this is something creative and awe inspiring)
Guilliman R Gallente PRO Space Hunters Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.06 20:35:00 - [161] Originally by: Tribalist This Topic Delivers!!!! If a great scam Savvon has too He gets everyone all bent out of shape and trying to gank hi in high sec where we all know he is perfectly safe and has CONCORD to protect him. And then he scoops the loot and salvage... I bet he dosen't even have to mine anymore! BRILLIANT!! So when is someone gonna petition him for griefing all the poor pirates who try and kill him who are simply reacting to his on-line goads? HE MUST BE STOPPED! There are pirates who would NEVER have even HEARD of Savvon being victimized by him through CONCORD, this sort of griefing must stop! .. . shhhh! ---sig--- Carebear for life (unless I am in the advantage and have 99% chance of winning(, hey 1% chance to lose, thats risk right, good!)!
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.08.06 21:18:00 - [162] Originally by: Curzon Dax Didn't Kehmor quit Eve? Had a thread in C&P? Did he? I don't read C&P very often. I just spam here mostly. That's too bad. He was the first pirate to take advantage of my stupidity, so he has a special place in my heart. He ganked me following a storyline event, luring me with the promise of free loot. Took out my blackbird over a planet. He will be missed. Originally by: Curzon Dax On a sidenote, Carebear != whiner. shrugs I'll throw down with anyone, anytime, just for a good fight - most forum warriors and in-game PvPers are loathe to take up that challenge because they don't have friends to back them up. I know. I'm a carebear, but I'm not a whiner. I'm willing to admit that. I bum around in high sec and refuse to take my mission raven into low sec. If I go anywhere dangerous, it's in one of my numerous suicide caracals. And if someone really wants to fight, I'll step up. Can't stand people like savvon. Originally by: savvon When you insult and/or call me names, you will be reported. You're a weenie little girly whiner incapable of handling your own disputes. Are you going to cry? - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2007.08.06 21:26:00 - [163] It's pretty simple Savvon. The miners are rich and the PvPers are broke all the time. If the PvPers have money it's because they either mine or produce with alts or live off of the work of others. PvPers are just too darn lazy. Originally by: Savvon Edited by: Savvon on 04/08/2007 10:29:45 More specifically, why the hate towards me for being a miner for simply mining? I have been playing Eve since 2004. Since day one I have mined. I enjoy mining. I am to mining what some of the top end pilots are to PvP. I enjoy every aspect of mining, especially the ôbusiness simö part of it. I never complain on these forums about mining or its mechanics. I have been pretty happy with the overall ôclassö and have had some very interesting adventures in my time here. Recently though, some people have been trying my patience by: 1.Being harassed in belts by n00b ôpiratesö in high sec trying to get me to shoot at their shuttle. We all know why. I just ignore them. 2.Ore thieves stealing from jet cans. It has gotten so bad I just use a Hulk with cargo extenders in high sec. 3.Constant PMÆs asking if I am a bot or if I am ôthereö. Some PMÆs just calling me derogatory names assuming I am not at the keyboard. I turned off my PMÆs. 4.Eve hate mails saying I am ruining the game but never telling me how. I am assuming it is because ôallö miners are bots. 5.In local channel people call miners (especially ice miners) all sorts of derogatory names just for mining there. Over the years it has gotten a little worse year by year. Some might call me a carebear (even though I can probably show you a thing or two in my Raven with my capped missile/shield/drone skills) and some might not understand why I enjoy mining. No matter what you think of my game play or my preference, it truly is none of your concern and definitely does not give anyone the right to treat others like some of you have been. The point I want to make is. I mine. Leave me alone. If you do not, you will be reported to CCP for harassment.
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2007.08.06 21:26:00 - [164] It's pretty simple Savvon. The miners are rich and the PvPers are broke all the time. If the PvPers have money it's because they either mine or produce with alts or live off of the work of others. PvPers are just too darn lazy. Originally by: Savvon Edited by: Savvon on 04/08/2007 10:29:45 More specifically, why the hate towards me for being a miner for simply mining? I have been playing Eve since 2004. Since day one I have mined. I enjoy mining. I am to mining what some of the top end pilots are to PvP. I enjoy every aspect of mining, especially the ôbusiness simö part of it. I never complain on these forums about mining or its mechanics. I have been pretty happy with the overall ôclassö and have had some very interesting adventures in my time here. Recently though, some people have been trying my patience by: 1.Being harassed in belts by n00b ôpiratesö in high sec trying to get me to shoot at their shuttle. We all know why. I just ignore them. 2.Ore thieves stealing from jet cans. It has gotten so bad I just use a Hulk with cargo extenders in high sec. 3.Constant PMÆs asking if I am a bot or if I am ôthereö. Some PMÆs just calling me derogatory names assuming I am not at the keyboard. I turned off my PMÆs. 4.Eve hate mails saying I am ruining the game but never telling me how. I am assuming it is because ôallö miners are bots. 5.In local channel people call miners (especially ice miners) all sorts of derogatory names just for mining there. Over the years it has gotten a little worse year by year. Some might call me a carebear (even though I can probably show you a thing or two in my Raven with my capped missile/shield/drone skills) and some might not understand why I enjoy mining. No matter what you think of my game play or my preference, it truly is none of your concern and definitely does not give anyone the right to treat others like some of you have been. The point I want to make is. I mine. Leave me alone. If you do not, you will be reported to CCP for harassment.
Guilliman R Gallente PRO Space Hunters Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.06 22:08:00 - [165] Edited by: Guilliman R on 06/08/2007 22:08:52 Originally by: Frug Originally by: savvon When you insult and/or call me names, you will be reported. You're a weenie little girly whiner incapable of handling your own disputes. Are you going to cry? So when a 60mil player starts to badmouth me, or insult me/my mom/dad/friends/gf/etc and I, with my 4mil SP. How am I going to settle my dispute? a duel? Am I to do the same, and lower myself to his (your?) level and risk him (you?) reporting me? No, I'll just make sure he (you?) get punished. It's a game, why should I listen to such crap that he (you?) do to make him (you?) feel good in your pants? How dare you force your narrowminded way of thinking onto others? Have you no decency, no shame? aah ofcaurse not, the internet. The medium with 0 responsability for ones actions. I bet the first thing that now comes up in your mind is "whell your a noob", or something to that extend? I'm sure, for this, I will be called wrong in various ways. But I will tell you right here, that whatever you say, out there, in the real world. I'm right. Goodday Mr.Frug ---sig--- Carebear for life (unless I am in the advantage and have 99% chance of winning(, hey 1% chance to lose, thats risk right, good!)!
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.06 22:45:00 - [166] Originally by: Guilliman R Edited by: Guilliman R on 06/08/2007 22:08:52 Originally by: Frug Originally by: savvon When you insult and/or call me names, you will be reported. You're a weenie little girly whiner incapable of handling your own disputes. Are you going to cry? So when a 60mil player starts to badmouth me, or insult me/my mom/dad/friends/gf/etc and I, with my 4mil SP. How am I going to settle my dispute? a duel? Am I to do the same, and lower myself to his (your?) level and risk him (you?) reporting me? No, I'll just make sure he (you?) get punished. It's a game, why should I listen to such crap that he (you?) do to make him (you?) feel good in your pants? How dare you force your narrowminded way of thinking onto others? Have you no decency, no shame? aah ofcaurse not, the internet. The medium with 0 responsability for ones actions. I bet the first thing that now comes up in your mind is "whell your a noob", or something to that extend? I'm sure, for this, I will be called wrong in various ways. But I will tell you right here, that whatever you say, out there, in the real world. I'm right. Goodday Mr.Frug Um...wow. Try this on for size. The next time someone starts smacking / insulting / familial territory, say this: "Look man, nothing personal, but I'm going to tell your dad to stop letting you use his credit card if you don't learn manners. Blocked." Works like a charm.
ChipMo Caldari The Rat Pack	Posted - 2007.08.06 23:25:00 - [167] Edited by: ChipMo on 06/08/2007 23:29:26 I guess miners are like Bus drivers, they have to put up with all the **** from moody passengers, people breaking rules & generally being asses. I'm a little bit of a pirate in eve, I love miners & mining ops alas they're a rare sight in low-sec nowerdays.. but when ever I did come across any I'd never give them any stick Other than killing them all, I mean. no convo's or spam like.. Good on you man, keep to what you enjoy & ignore the ******* as best you can. -------------------------- RARR
SiegesMorraeon Gallente The Devil's Advocates	Posted - 2007.08.07 00:57:00 - [168] I've only had problems with one guy trying to fire on me when I was mining in high-sec ( 0.9, I believe) space when I was mining about five/six months ago when I first started. Naturally, the guy got his pod handed to him by CONCORD. Pretty funny to watch, once I got over the initial, "What the -- hey, who's shooting at me?!" reaction.
port22 Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.08.07 02:12:00 - [169] If CNR's can be suicide ganked in high sec empire space with faction mods fitted (takes 2+ Geddons) im sure Savvons Hulk can be fairly easily crushed by the same tactics. Which by mention is not an exploitable tactic, nor is it petitionable. Have a nice day! :D Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW period.
Savvon	Posted - 2007.08.07 04:26:00 - [170] Edited by: Savvon on 07/08/2007 04:25:57 Originally by: port22 If CNR's can be suicide ganked in high sec empire space with faction mods fitted (takes 2+ Geddons) im sure Savvons Hulk can be fairly easily crushed by the same tactics. Which by mention is not an exploitable tactic, nor is it petitionable. Have a nice day! :D After all this time you have been playing it is nice to know that you still have no clue. Btw, you are welcome for all the help you have received from me in the past. Thank you for repaying me with insults and a low grade attitude. Guess that is what I get for helping people. A simple thank you would of been nicer though. Why don't you come and try it port?
Callthetruth Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.08.07 10:46:00 - [171] like the real world there are some personalities in eve that like to um be aggressive and shoot stuff and miners really are not stuff that shoot back Other leet kiddies like rts shooters and find it boring sitting around for hours waiting for nothing to turn up
General Coochie New Justice Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.07 10:55:00 - [172] Your first post OP made perfect sence and I agree with you. However your attitude in the next pages doesnt make me suprised what kind off feedback you got. Might wanna ask yourself wether ppl in this thead go at you because you are a miner or because of something else? Signature removed - please reduce your signature graphic height to less than 120 pixels - Jacques([email protected])
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:00:00 - [173] Originally by: Guilliman R Originally by: Frug You're a weenie little girly whiner incapable of handling your own disputes. Are you going to cry? So when a 60mil player starts to badmouth me, or insult me/my mom/dad/friends/gf/etc and I, with my 4mil SP. How am I going to settle my dispute? a duel? Am I to do the same, and lower myself to his (your?) level and risk him (you?) reporting me? No, I'll just make sure he (you?) get punished. It's a game, why should I listen to such crap that he (you?) do to make him (you?) feel good in your pants? How dare you force your narrowminded way of thinking onto others? Have you no decency, no shame? aah ofcaurse not, the internet. The medium with 0 responsability for ones actions... rant rant rabble rabble Wow dude, I think you need to go take a walk or something. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:06:00 - [174] This thread is made of fail and lose. Lurk moar. ____________________ Pimped out Raven to run level 4 missions quickly: 210 Mil ISK. Realizing your 120 Mil ISK Drake gets the job done faster: Priceless.
Sandra Jones	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:14:00 - [175] can i have your stuff?
Ladyah Liandri A GmbH	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:35:00 - [176] Originally by: Savvon Ladyah Liandri, And you are? Ahh, a band wagoner. "Everyone is attacking Savvon, I must get a punch in too!" I fail to see what that thread you linked has anything to do with this topic. Except that you are trying to discredit my opinion because I disagree with that other poster. You don't need anybody to discredit your opinion since you seem to be doing that just fine yourself.
Taipan Gedscho Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:47:00 - [177] ey savvon im NOT one of those "everyone attacking savvon so ill get my shot too" but still im stupid enough to try to explain something to you. your first post (first page ya kno) seemed completely reasonable, even the friggin pirates and orethieves agreed with you. but for whatever reason (personal opinion: its PMS) you insisted on becomin a stubborn and ignorant... person... throughout the thread. Curzon was very nice to you and you just went all bat**** on him. Get a grip man, and calm down, before you goin all postal on us. Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today!
D'Insane Shatner Gallente Shatner's Toupee	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:55:00 - [178] Mining is fun. Getting into and out of low sec with your ore load is absolutely one of the greatest rushes in the game for me. What a feeling of victory to know I evaded some pirate and got away. Also, since it's a game... some of you whining miners ought to chat some of these pirates up a bit. They are just people like you and me playing a game- I've had some great conversations. I've even made friends. Sure I lost a ship here or there- but in the final analysis these guys end up buying ships I make. Play it like a game and the game won't play you. Try being creative with your strategies... If you aren't havign fun... it;s time to move on. -- http://www.shatnerology.com
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.07 11:58:00 - [179] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 07/08/2007 11:59:23 Originally by: Savvon I love how everyone is taking a shot at analyzing me. Diagnostics from forum psychologist are always welcome. The facts: I stated my opinion that I am sick of being harrased while minding my own business mining. I have been constantly bombarded ever since in game and on the forums. People have followed me in other threads with the usual insults, Eve mailing me in game and trying to suicide me. More facts: I have 2 attempts of suicide ganking on Fraps and one of which is a Ferox. He was podded by the way. When you insult and/or call me names, you will be reported. I will defend my point of views and not lay down while bullies kick me. You might think this is anger, but in fact, its simply a person who stands tall against bullies. Everyone knows where I am mining for the next few days. I invite anyone of you to come and try to suicide me. The only thing you will get is laughed at, Frapped and podded. No petition ? And i would hardly call the Ferox a DPS monster. Tank 2 gank Brutix's or Myrmidons and i will be impressed. :) PS: Podded ... ? I dare you to link the killmail on a killboard or send it to me, on how he got podded. Let me make it clear for everybody else reading. Concord doesn't pod you when you try to suicide someone. They only kill your ship. And unless you were at war with the guy, i call BS on what you are saying. :) Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ.
Taipan Gedscho Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.07 12:03:00 - [180] 1) wow shatner, great post ;) 2) i bet he says "podded" as in "ship went pop, pilot put into pod" imho thats correct, or we wouldnt have a way to distinguish "podkill" and "bein podded". but yea. opinions vary on that and im completely aware how most people use "podded" altough i think the majority is wrong on this one ;) Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today!

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