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Cyzlaki
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Posted - 2012.01.13 00:45:00 -
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CCP made Talos so good full rack T2 neutrons hits 1000 DPS EZ then you can even slap Null in it and get as much range as autocannons with better DPS over range. Why they make this so OP its EZ FOTM until a nerf oh wait they buffing it again LOL Did I mention it also does 1.8k/s and aligns in 6.5? |

Tippia
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:14:00 -
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GǪvery OP, except that it dies very easily and doesn't do much damage against many targets. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Cyzlaki
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪvery OP, except that it dies very easily and doesn't do much damage against many targets. it kills everything before it dies and does more damage that any other subcap |

Tippia
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:16:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:it kills everything before it dies and does more damage that any other subcap  No.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cyzlaki wrote:it kills everything before it dies and does more damage that any other subcap  No. actually yes. and if u die u just use ur super fast speed and align time to warp. makes the game EZ |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:22:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:actually yes. Actually, no, because it dies if something sneezes at it, because it has all the normal Gallente weaknesses, and because it most definitely doesn't do the most damage of any subcap.
Quote:and if u die u just use ur super fast speed and align time to warp. Yes wellGǪ that's the pod you're talking about (which doesn't have GÇ£super fast speedGÇ¥). It doesn't particularly affect the effectiveness of the Talos. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cyzlaki wrote:actually yes. Actually, no, because it dies if something sneezes at it, because it has all the normal Gallente weaknesses, and because it most definitely doesn't do the most damage of any subcap. Quote:and if u die u just use ur super fast speed and align time to warp. Yes wellGǪ that's the pod you're talking about (which doesn't have Gǣsuper fast speedGǥ). It doesn't particularly affect the effectiveness of the Talos. Actually no, the ship has the speed and agility of a HAC and the damage of a gank hype. It has the EHP of a HAC too so it definitely lasts longer than a sneeze, usually more than enough time to kill whatever is shooting at it. It's clear you haven't flown it and don't know what you're talking about. It pulverizes cruisers and HACS, destroys BC's, and outdamages BS while getting under their guns thanks to high speed small sig |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:30:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:Actually no, the ship has the speed and agility of a HAC and the damage of a gank hype. GǪso not even close to the most damaging of any subcap.
Quote:It has the EHP of a HAC too You need to learn how to fit your HACs. 
Oh, and the reason things won't die is because you're using large blasters. They're very easy to avoid.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:31:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:Tippia wrote:Cyzlaki wrote:actually yes. Actually, no, because it dies if something sneezes at it, because it has all the normal Gallente weaknesses, and because it most definitely doesn't do the most damage of any subcap. Quote:and if u die u just use ur super fast speed and align time to warp. Yes wellGǪ that's the pod you're talking about (which doesn't have Gǣsuper fast speedGǥ). It doesn't particularly affect the effectiveness of the Talos. Actually no, the ship has the speed and agility of a HAC and the damage of a gank hype. It has the EHP of a HAC too so it definitely lasts longer than a sneeze, usually more than enough time to kill whatever is shooting at it. It's clear you haven't flown it and don't know what you're talking about. 
More tracking than the Hype too. And Waaaaaaaaaayyyyy faster. :)
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cyzlaki wrote:Actually no, the ship has the speed and agility of a HAC and the damage of a gank hype. GǪso not even close to the most damaging of any subcap. Quote:It has the EHP of a HAC too You need to learn how to fit your HACs.  Oh, and the reason things won't die is because you're using large blasters. They're very easy to avoid.
Come to Amamake and I'll show you the error of your ways. The Talos is... surprising. :)
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cyzlaki wrote:Actually no, the ship has the speed and agility of a HAC and the damage of a gank hype. GǪso not even close to the most damaging of any subcap. Quote:It has the EHP of a HAC too You need to learn how to fit your HACs.  Oh, and the reason things won't die is because you're using large blasters. They're very easy to avoid. Talos has a tracking bonus. HACs have 30-40K EHP. Talos large neutrons track better than a zealot's pulse lasers at the same goddamn range and with twice the DPS. You're kidding yourself if you think the Talos isn't FOTM EVE on EZ mode |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:34:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Come to Amamake and I'll show you the error of your ways. The Talos is... surprising. :) Not really. It does exactly what you expect it to doGǪ
GǪwhich is a far cry from what the OP thinks.
Cyzlaki wrote:Talos large neutrons track better than a zealot's pulse lasers at the same goddamn range and with twice the DPS. Ok, you need to go back and have a look at how the tracking formula actually worksGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Come to Amamake and I'll show you the error of your ways. The Talos is... surprising. :) Not really. It does exactly what you expect it to doGǪ GǪwhich is a far cry from what the OP thinks. L2play |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:36:00 -
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No, it doesn't really do what I expected it to at first glance. Which is what you seem to be claiming it does.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:38:00 -
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"This ships so good it does X better than Y"
"no it doesnt"
"why"
"because"
Err yep I'm sure many see all Tippia's reasons and don't think he's BSing at all! |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:40:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:No, it doesn't really do what I expected it to at first glance. Adjust your expectations then. It does what I thought it would do. vOv. L2math.
What tracking speed does your pulse Zealot have? What tracking speed does your blaster Talos have? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:42:00 -
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You seem to be saying exactly what I thought it would do, Tippia. I'm telling you that I fly the damn thing and it does it way better.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:No, it doesn't really do what I expected it to at first glance. Adjust your expectations then. It does what I thought it would do. vOv. L2math. What tracking speed does your pulse Zealot have? What tracking speed does your blaster Talos have? You tell me and I'll tell you why you're wrong. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:No, it doesn't really do what I expected it to at first glance. Adjust your expectations then. It does what I thought it would do. vOv. L2math. What tracking speed does your pulse Zealot have? What tracking speed does your blaster Talos have? You tell me and I'll tell you why you're wrong. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:44:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:You seem to be saying exactly what I thought it would do, Tippia. I'm saying that the OP is severely overstating his case since he's saying things that simply aren't true (viz. tracking comparison, damage output).
It's a good ship. It doesn't do what the OP claims.
Cyzlaki wrote:You tell me and I'll tell you why you're wrong. No. You made the comparison; you provide the data. Can't provide the data? Well, toughGǪ there goes your claim. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:45:00 -
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So you would say that a Talos would lose to a Cane right?
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:47:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:So you would say that a Talos would lose to a Cane right? Cane? Probably not. It's fat enough a target.
edit: read that wrong first. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Aamrr
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:48:00 -
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Would this be a bad time to bring up the fact that while the Talos does use blasters (which give it good tracking) and has a tracking bonus (which gives it better tracking still), this still doesn't make up for the fact that it's using large guns, which have a poor signature resolution?
That said, the Talos would totally rip apart that Hurricane. The trouble isn't BCs, it's tinier stuff. |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:53:00 -
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Aamrr wrote:Would this be a bad time to bring up the fact that while the Talos does use blasters (which give it good tracking) and has a tracking bonus (which gives it better tracking still), this still doesn't make up for the fact that it's using large guns, which have a poor signature resolution?
That said, the Talos would totally rip apart that Hurricane. The trouble isn't BCs, it's tinier stuff.
No, I actually expected Tippia to make that comment when discussing tracking. I assure you, however, that the Talos has no trouble killing frigates.
-Liang
Ed: It could probably be held down by a 10km/s Ares at 50km. Just as anything else. :P Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 01:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:You seem to be saying exactly what I thought it would do, Tippia. I'm saying that the OP is severely overstating his case since he's saying things that simply aren't true (viz. tracking comparison, damage output). It's a good ship. It doesn't do what the OP claims. Cyzlaki wrote:You tell me and I'll tell you why you're wrong. No. You made the comparison; you provide the data. Can't provide the data? Well, toughGǪ there goes your claim. Talos: 0.105, 1300 Zealot: 0.09, 525 |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 02:02:00 -
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Well that shut him up. Now if you'll excuse me I'll continue to say the Talos is the best while flying it |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 02:04:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:Talos: 0.105, 1300 Zealot: 0.09, 525 GǪwhich means that the Zealot tracks 2.7+ù better.
Again, go back and have a look at how the tracking formula actually works.
Liang Nuren wrote:No, I actually expected Tippia to make that comment when discussing tracking. I assure you, however, that the Talos has no trouble killing frigates. Ok, colour me intrigued. Fit? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 02:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cyzlaki wrote:Talos: 0.105, 1300 Zealot: 0.09, 525 GǪwhich means that the Zealot tracks 2.7+ù better. Again, go back and have a look at how the tracking formula actually works. Liang Nuren wrote:No, I actually expected Tippia to make that comment when discussing tracking. I assure you, however, that the Talos has no trouble killing frigates. Ok, colour me intrigued. Fit? LOL just outed yourself as a moron. I rest my case. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 02:05:00 -
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haha now he's asking for our fits. |

Cyzlaki
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Posted - 2012.01.13 02:06:00 -
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Tippia: Doesn't know what he's talking about. Doesn't know how to fit a ship. Doesn't know how tracking works. Post obnoxious stuff implying he does. |
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