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pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 11:14:00 - [61] Originally by: touchvill That's quite funny. Most of the Tri members didn't like **. Words such as "parasites", "clueless" and many was just waiting for a backstab which came in the form of a NAP to BoB. That was it then Tri don't work for BoB and you showed that you're priorities lied in taking Tenal at whatever cost than staying loyal to the alliance which let you exist in their space whilst you prepared for you're assault. Tri did a lot for you and very few members in respected that. Some members of Terror In The System were respected and good people. On the whole though they were as much a failiure as their short lifespan says. Unfortunately that wasn't the reality of the situation. First off we never napped bob. We are permanent KOS to bob and have been since their formation. Second when we napped MC I don't think you can really call that backstabbing. We never came down and attacked tri or ever had any ill will towards them. It was not our decision to set tri neutral, it was tri's . After being in Venal for a while it became very clear that our two alliances weren't going to do so well sharing the same space. I don't think it was really anyone's fault, it was just too crowded up there. If we stayed any longer things would get out of hand quickly. This is why we moved on tenal even though we werent really ready to do that. I would loved to have another month or two for preparations, unfortunately the situation dictated that we either move then or not at all. As far as why we didn't stay loyal to you for "letting us exist". Well I don't think we did anything disloyal. We came to venal for one purpose and one purpose only. To attack tenal. That was our agenda from the start. Tri knew that was our sole purpose for being their the whole time. I'm not sure what you mean by "Tri did a lot for you and very few members in respected that." Tri was an outstanding ally. We all recognized that. I still have a lot of respect for Tri. They are a fantastic alliance. OFC on both sides rogue alliance members did regrettable things. There was plenty of silliness to go around. You can't say it was all our fault. That's just bull. ------>PҼſϚի<------**
WhiteSnake Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 11:21:00 - [62] Originally by: Naruto Hunter Edited by: Naruto Hunter on 17/08/2007 11:11:56 I was just replying to The Cursed twisted perspective on the matter of the Tenal embarassement. Obviously, each one is entitled to his opinion, but flat out lying is another thing. Would you care to comment your corpmate? Did you honestly provide 90% of the pvp force? Get real, I mean, before the other entities got into the fight, you were getting owned while assaulting RAZOR (and RAZOR was just by themselves then). When the hand holding started, you were all out boasting about your accomplishment. But sometimes life can be a ***** and well, you paid for it. I mean, Eve wasn't expecting much from a farce such as GODS, but it sure proved to be amusing. As far as we are concerned, it is no big secret our game changed more than a year ago, with the POS warfare time sink. Deploying a POS is reason enough to get expelled from the alliance. edit: spelling razor where never on their own, even the very first day they had morsus and d2 with them (this is why the friends stands for). So dont give false info, you can always ask first. you can check our killboard to see who was getting owned, 80% efficiency hardly can be stated as "getting owned". click
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.08.17 11:26:00 - [63] Originally by: WhiteSnake LoL, only GODS and BoB has disbanded so many alliances in this game. The difference between you and BoB: You disband your own alliance, BoB their enemies. ________ Sometimes paranoiaÆs just having all the facts.
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 11:31:00 - [64] Edited by: pershphanie on 17/08/2007 11:31:47 Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: WhiteSnake LoL, only GODS and BoB has disbanded so many alliances in this game. The difference between you and BoB: You disband your own alliance, BoB their enemies. This thread is fantastic. First ex-xetic members give lessons in pvp and alliance management, now former d2 members smacking for disbanding alliances. im not quite sure why, but I <3 ****** meaningless forum drama. ------>PҼſϚի<------**
Naruto Hunter Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.08.17 11:36:00 - [65] Edited by: Naruto Hunter on 17/08/2007 11:36:11 Originally by: WhiteSnake razor where never on their own, even the very first day they had morsus and d2 with them (this is why the friends stands for). So dont give false info, you can always ask first. you can check our killboard to see who was getting owned, 80% efficiency hardly can be stated as "getting owned". click Pulling numbers out of one's ass is a nice trick. Check RAZOR's kb to get a glimpse of the truth. But to your defence, RAZOR werent alone, I can see the occasional battleship from other alliances in your losses. edit: spelling yet again
touchvill Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.17 11:36:00 - [66] Fairplay, you have been one of the ones singing Tri's praises throughout. The majority of the former **** members who speak out though oviously don't share you're oppinion. Tri did know you wanted Tenal, you stayed in Venal to setup base to have a good area to attack from. It was very overcrowded in Venal and probably where most of the animosity comes from by each side. As it was though there was animosity, which obviously doesn't help matters when you started having MC and allies flying with you. MC were blue with Tri already due to actions with -Y-. The rest wasn't though and it was absorbing all Tri's targets. You know when Tri are running low on targets something will be done because it goes against the alliance principles to be bombarded with blues, be it temporary or not. Therefore and executive decision was made, to solve problems just set them all neutral and let you do it without Tri. It wasn't as if You needed Tri after all that. It was a decision which never harmed anyone. Also when I said napped BoB what I probably should have said was joined "the alliance" which you on many occasions actually announced. This makes things difficult for Tri especially as it was during the "Tri are BoB pets palarva". There is no harm in trying to take space with friends and then try keeping it. Biting off the hand that feeds you though is not nice which is why I have come out and posted in defence of my brothers. (Though my posts will be deleted soon because of the stupid no corp no post rule, I am actually a main and have RL to attend to before joining a corp, but asking for mods to see comon sense is pointless). ----------
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.08.17 11:48:00 - [67] hi persh want to do the alliances I've been in and you've been in count ? you'll win by a mile ________ Sometimes paranoiaÆs just having all the facts.
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 12:09:00 - [68] Edited by: pershphanie on 17/08/2007 12:09:52 Originally by: Turkantho hi persh want to do the alliances I've been in and you've been in count ? you'll win by a mile Hmmmm. You've been in PA, G, D2, and now evoke. I've been in PA, FoE, FE, bob, and **. Woot! I win! I demand a freaking medal! ------>PҼſϚի<------**
Gemini Zero Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 12:36:00 - [69] Edited by: Gemini Zero on 17/08/2007 12:41:25 omg hijax!
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 12:37:00 - [70] Originally by: Naruto Hunter Edited by: Naruto Hunter on 17/08/2007 11:11:56 I was just replying to The Cursed twisted perspective on the matter of the Tenal embarassement. Obviously, each one is entitled to his opinion, but flat out lying is another thing. Would you care to comment your corpmate? Sure np. My comment is: Xetic, Vale alliance, and Nbsi. now stfu ------>PҼſϚի<------
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 12:52:00 - [71] Originally by: Gemini Zero hijacked much? ...gotta love COAD Sorry. Back on topic. Alliance (agony empire) are a bunch of (lemmings), My own (GODS) are crushing them easily in (x70) and throughout (pure blind). We are doing this without the help of (TomB) or (Triumvirate) who are all a bunch of (meanies). This is because our pilots are (uber) whereas their pilots are all (impotent) and our forum warriors are particularly (too cool for school). In addition, (Gemini Zero) is a raging (hermaphrodite) and (Rells) is a (breastfeeding transexual) (The only reason they pwn us is cause they use their dev accounts to haxorz the sever) Also, writers on the Eve-Tribune are all a bunch of (bad people) because they (love Agony Empire and not us!) sorry for the lack of originality.I don't know you guys well enough to really smack you guys well. So nice that their is a standard form for this now though. Takes alot of the effort out of it. ------>PҼſϚի<------
Nareg Maxence Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.08.17 13:15:00 - [72] Originally by: Evil Pookie What this thread needs is more kill to death ratios From a recent PVP-Basic class, Kills: Raven, Drake, Ishtar, Raven, Typhoon or 850M Isk, if you want to count that way. Deaths: A few T1-frigs during class and the rest of the fleet when it accidentally crashed into the Torrinos gatecamp. GF.
Tornado Bait Minmatar Those Without Purpose Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2007.08.17 13:53:00 - [73] Originally by: WhiteSnake Originally by: Naruto Hunter Edited by: Naruto Hunter on 17/08/2007 11:11:56 I was just replying to The Cursed twisted perspective on the matter of the Tenal embarassement. Obviously, each one is entitled to his opinion, but flat out lying is another thing. Would you care to comment your corpmate? Did you honestly provide 90% of the pvp force? Get real, I mean, before the other entities got into the fight, you were getting owned while assaulting RAZOR (and RAZOR was just by themselves then). When the hand holding started, you were all out boasting about your accomplishment. But sometimes life can be a ***** and well, you paid for it. I mean, Eve wasn't expecting much from a farce such as GODS, but it sure proved to be amusing. As far as we are concerned, it is no big secret our game changed more than a year ago, with the POS warfare time sink. Deploying a POS is reason enough to get expelled from the alliance. edit: spelling razor where never on their own, even the very first day they had morsus and d2 with them (this is why the friends stands for). So dont give false info, you can always ask first. you can check our killboard to see who was getting owned, 80% efficiency hardly can be stated as "getting owned". click wow he really did pull out the K/D ratio. Quite impressive. I wish my K:D ratio would be that good. I might have to stop posting losses as well.
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 15:09:00 - [74] Hmm. Announce a service and an unrelated flamewar erupts. shrug As for AGONY vs GODS I will say that our ISK ratio against them is not what I would like it to be. Against almost all our other neighbors we are around 75% to 80% but as opposed to GODS the ratio is hovering around 50% which basically means that neither of us is winning or losing the ISK war. The drop in the ratio is like because there are some younger members of AGONY that have never been under much real pressure. Some of our neighbors like the former NXT alliance were not very challenging overall and I think some young AGONY members have gotten soft and spoiled. The new challenge will be good for them as will the internal pressure we put on our pilots. AGONY has no one set to blue other than corps entirely made of AGONY alts. Every time we have set someone to blue, (twice) it has been either a non-issue or a problem. AGONY pilots love to shoot things and not watch people fly by on their overview. We probably wont have any blues ever again while I am in charge of the corp but you never know what the future will hold. AGONY is not like the alliances that care about holding space. We would rather be destroying things than holding space. Being in AGONY is not easy because of the no-blues policy and that will continue. One difference is that we discourage smacktalk and other sillyness. You wont find an AGONY pilot calling you names for not suiciding into us. You wont see us complaining in local about people outmaneuvering us. You wont see us smacktalking in general. You wont hear AGONY members saying something that a GODS member recently said in local, "Tell your dad to stop calling, Im not done with your mom yet." That kind of garbage is just not necessary. By contrast I have seen a transformation in GODS from the days I flew with them in Forsaken Empire to become a smacktalking corp. I find it sad and depressing and extend an open invitation to the GODS members sick of this to come to AGONY. I have to hope that this is just a minor bump in the road for an organization I had a lot of respect for and that the smacktalkers are just a bunch of new-hires but some GODS members (members for 4 months) recently said to me, "GODS is only about smack". I sincerely hope that isn't true. AGONY loves to fight. We don't always win, we don't always lose. Sometimes we get owned and sometimes we own others. What motivates us the give and take, the challenge of combat, that there is someone on the other side trying to outmaneuver you and the fact that the situation is always changing. We are always developing new tactics and always improving old tactics. Some AGONY pilots are old-hands at PVP and others are brand new. AGONY also has a firm belief in PVP training and the desire to expand the pool of PVPers in Eve. We believe that all pilots can PVP effectively with the right training. We seek to provide the best PvP trainign in Eve. AGONY has no enemies, only opponents. We will meet anyone on the field of battle with equal good will. We will also train anyone. Some of our opponents have taken our classes, doubtless to learn our tactics, and had fun doing so. AGONY is a non-political organization. We neither support nor hate any particular organization in the game other than those that vehemently do repulsive smacktalk or evidence uncommonly bad sportsmanship. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Cythrawl Caldari Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.08.17 15:39:00 - [75] I don't have a problem with Agony docking up and staying there, even when the odds are usually 1/2 in their favor in local. Don't engage unless you want to, I know. I believe in that tactic myself. I have a problem that you consider your service you provide to be a good one though. Any group of frigates can take down a bs if you take enough of them. Any smart group of snipers can pop a few frigs and get away before the proverbial 'posse' gets there. This stuff you learn from actually going out and pvping more than once in your life. PvP is simple. There's very few tricks to it except specialized tactical fitting and ship deployment. That's why BE is so good at what they do. They use tactics nobody else in the game does to the results of a killboard that looks almost like a campaign to provide isk for all those ship builders in Jita. Sniping/plated ravens at 150k killing all kinds of stuff? Who'da thunk it? I mean hell, someone might wise up to new tactics and beat that. I'm still waiting to see someone take a fleet of 425mm rokhs with faction antimatter in at 100k and 'snipe' the hell out of all those mega/hyperion fleets because you'd wrack up around 75% more damage per ship with the rokhs. Highly unlikely it'll happen any time soon, but who knows. Either way, you could learn everything agony teaches by flying with any group that blobs and uses bs to snipe or hacs/command ships to swarm. Only those people would do it with more money than a bunch of frigs and destroyers. Cythrawl DEFY Director White Whale Hunter =+=+=+=+=+=+= Originally by: Black Torment OH GOD, DROWNING IN TINFOIL.
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 15:43:00 - [76] Originally by: Kyguard Originally by: WhiteSnake LoL or better LMAO I dont have a clue about what you are teaching in your courses, but omg, agony sucks big time in pvp. I watch them daily at X-70, most of the day docked. Its very rare to see them engage, even with greater numbers, you call it brain, I call it yellow. Yes we smack them a lot in local, its a shame watching them living in 0.0, but giving pvp lessons also???? what eve has become these days, its just sad, inst it? GODS is probably the most laughed at entity past Xelas, but xelas is gone now so you take the prize. Keep posting WOAH! Long time no see man. That invitation is still open you know. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 16:09:00 - [77] Originally by: Cythrawl I have a problem that you consider your service you provide to be a good one though. And so does every one of our students as you can see from this thread. As for the rest of your post, you dont need all of that to PvP. There is an alliance mindset that the only PVP that is ligit is in heavy ships. We have often proven that to be completely wrong. you dont need to wait til you have 20m SP to pvp. We have people with 1/20th of that that pvp quite effectively. Our students reccomendations on this thread are all we need. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 16:11:00 - [78] Originally by: Rells By contrast I have seen a transformation in GODS from the days I flew with them in Forsaken Empire to become a smacktalking corp. lol? ------>PҼſϚի<------
Love Ya Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 16:19:00 - [79] Originally by: Rells Our students reccomendations on this thread are all we need. And how many may i dare ask is yours or your corp mates alts ? I need a new sig Whitesnake
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 16:37:00 - [80] Originally by: Love Ya Originally by: Rells Our students reccomendations on this thread are all we need. And how many may i dare ask is yours or your corp mates alts ? Of the nearly 3000 through BASIC and 1200 through WOLFPACKS over the past 18 months, some 250 or so have joined AGONY. Completion of PVP-BASIC is a requirement to Join AGONY under most circumstances (unless the pilot has high combat experience) and completion of BASIC and WOLFPACKS is required to be promoted from Ensign to Lieutenant which ends the probationary period in AGONY. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 16:40:00 - [81] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Rells By contrast I have seen a transformation in GODS from the days I flew with them in Forsaken Empire to become a smacktalking corp. lol? REGRETTABLY it is not a joke. I hear people saying things in local in x-7omu that would have at least earned them a stiff talking-to in the F-E gods. Its rather like finding out an old acquaintance you lost touch with has turned to drugs and crime. Bummed me out seriously because I used to have a lot of respect for you guys. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
The Cursed Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 16:48:00 - [82] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Rells By contrast I have seen a transformation in GODS from the days I flew with them in Forsaken Empire to become a smacktalking corp. lol? Humm i guess they forgot about me during the evolution invasion of tenal lol i smacked like crazy. I love smack but i dont do it anymore:( Beer em Good!!!!!! Signature removed. Please review the forum rules or e-mail us with any questions - Petwraith
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 17:21:00 - [83] Originally by: Rells Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Rells By contrast I have seen a transformation in GODS from the days I flew with them in Forsaken Empire to become a smacktalking corp. lol? REGRETTABLY it is not a joke. I hear people saying things in local in x-7omu that would have at least earned them a stiff talking-to in the F-E gods. That's because FE was founded on strong moral principles. We valued honor, integrity, and politeness. But these kids today.... It's out of control i tell you. ------>PҼſϚի<------
Love Ya Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 17:32:00 - [84] Originally by: Rells Of the nearly 3000 through BASIC and 1200 through WOLFPACKS over the past 18 months, some 250 or so have joined AGONY. 3000 players in Eve been educated to the higher standards of ... stay docked if they see other then ther own corp in local ..... Now i understand with PVP action gone down the drain in the last 18 months. You Sir have destroyed the fun in EvE for 3000 players tsk.. tsk... And for this you have earned GODS Global Award of - 0 POINTS - I hope this is not mutch to ask, actually I beg you, i am getting on my knees, please .. please teach your students to .. Undock !!... Love Ya I need a new sig Whitesnake
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 17:43:00 - [85] Well, since it has come down to OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED smacktalk, I guess that is that, end of an era and fall of an old and respected corp. I will stop believing they are the respectable fighters I used to know. Good luck to you GODS. I don't see a need to communicate further. As always, AGONY pilots will be directed to not smacktalk. See you around x-7omu. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 17:46:00 - [86] Originally by: Rells Well, since it has come down to OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED smacktalk, I guess that is that, end of an era and fall of an old and respected corp. I will stop believing they are the respectable fighters I used to know. Good luck to you GODS. I don't see a need to communicate further. As always, AGONY pilots will be directed to not smacktalk. See you around x-7omu. Who is this old polite GODS corp you're talking about? During FE at times I ordered people to smack in local. I'm so confused... ------>PҼſϚի<------
WETRAIN Minmatar R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.17 17:55:00 - [87] this thread needs me ps. agony unleashed logged a 40 man fleet so they fail Gods has 3 things i like: Greeks, Cursed And BEER! pps. Persh is also a indian *** lord
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.17 19:39:00 - [88] Edited by: Brunswick2 on 17/08/2007 19:40:57 nm
Gemini Zero Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.08.17 20:47:00 - [89] dear gods, x-7 local is not the place to let all of your crazies talk to themselves for literally hours upon hours. please give them something shiny to keep them occupied. kthxbye.
Love Ya Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.17 20:59:00 - [90] Originally by: Brunswick2 Edited by: Brunswick2 on 17/08/2007 19:49:50 Edited by: Brunswick2 on 17/08/2007 19:40:57 So, let me get this right, every corp/alliance besides GODS sucks? NO for sure not !!! but Agony defnetly I need a new sig Whitesnake

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