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Brolly Caldari Templars of Space Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.08.21 00:16:00 - [1] Got 20 minutes until it downloads, I so freaking hope it's gonna be worth the wait. Gamers hell seem to have the fastest DL speed atm, currently cruising at a reasonable 12mb/ps. /me sits and plays the waiting game
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.08.21 00:23:00 - [2] There's a torrent on Piratebay of the demo. With over 14000 peers 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Brolly Caldari Templars of Space Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.08.21 00:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Dark Shikari There's a torrent on Piratebay of the demo. With over 14000 peers Meh, missed that one. Ah well, only 8 minutes left. /me goes to roam the forums whilst waiting
Mardonius Gallente Get out of the Kitchen Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.21 02:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Brolly Edited by: Brolly on 21/08/2007 01:46:15 Originally by: Dark Shikari There's a torrent on Piratebay of the demo. With over 14000 peers Meh, missed that one. Ah well, only 8 minutes left. /me goes to roam the forums whilst waiting Just played it and it runs amazingly well . It runs smoothly on my amd 3200, 1 gog o' ram, 8600gtx (win xp), that was at 1200x1024 with all settings at full, getting an average FPS of 30+. The demo is short and pretty damn good. I'm suprised at how tense the atmosphere is, the intro is kinda like a more emersive, horror(ish) halflife. It's well worth a bash if you're into FPS, survival horror affairs. I thinks it's something like that anyhoo's I think I shall purchase game on friday if i can find it for ú20. Great news. I'm downloading the demo right now. I have some high expectations.
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.08.21 02:53:00 - [5] I've just had a moment through the first part of the 360 version of the game. Barring spoilers, get it. Get it now. No buts, just get it. Oh and I hope you're emotionally stable before you play. This game will mess you up bad... - NPC Vendetta system, Local rehash, Probe decoys
Hitman396 Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.21 10:41:00 - [6] Just been playing the demo, cool game kinda scary in places =O. Got it pre ordered on steam too for $55 which is like ú30ish i think
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.08.21 10:49:00 - [7] Just had 5 mins on it but not playing it any more. I hate playing through what I've already done only a day or 2 later. It was very nice. __________________________________
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.08.21 11:56:00 - [8] BioShock is so awesome and cool that it blows up computers. --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Mardonius Gallente Get out of the Kitchen Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.21 13:55:00 - [9] I'm about to play it, got all my snacks and everything ready. Thank god for Steam. I'm so excited. Shock 2 was my favourite game of all time and finally it has a spiritual successor. Will edit post with feedback on the demo.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.08.21 14:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Mardonius I'm about to play it, got all my snacks and everything ready. Thank god for Steam. I'm so excited. Shock 2 was my favourite game of all time and finally it has a spiritual successor. Will edit post with feedback on the demo. be carefull tho. your computer might go boom --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.21 14:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Oh and I hope you're emotionally stable before you play. This game will mess you up bad... No kidding. Played the demo and I have to say it is the scariest game I have ever played. Just downright disturbing (in a cool way). The comments from the residents, the mother and her baby, the Slicer after the Little Sister to name a few notable moments (and trust me those are not really spoilers...you have to experience it). The place oozed atmosphere and really does an impressive job drawing you in. Game is due for delivery here in a few hours. Looking forward to it.
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.08.21 15:12:00 - [12] Amazingly enough , Bioshock runs on my woefully inadequate PC. However , I can't get past the starting area due to it being pitch black (save for the fires and water effects) and ugly rendering bugs blocking my view half of the time. I tried to move close to a red light thingy but it does nothing special. Help ? Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Endgame. Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.08.21 15:14:00 - [13] i played it today... was a bit.. standard ? but i will still " get " the full version to try it out My Personal Killboard
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.21 15:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Chode Rizoum i played it today... was a bit.. standard ? ?? "If you don't watch all the violence, you'll never get desensitized!" -- Bart Simpson I worry for our future.
Sleepkevert Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.21 15:26:00 - [15] I'm getting it from fileplanet now, but my connection is crappy :( Still got 3 hours worth of downloading to do before i can play... Originally by: CCP Prism X It's better to be safe than sorry: This is a joke, TQ is not actually run by hamsters! We use bunnies, they reproduce faster and can utilize bigger running-wheels.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.21 15:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Stakhanov Edited by: Stakhanov on 21/08/2007 15:19:11 Amazingly enough , Bioshock runs on my woefully inadequate PC. However , I can't get past the starting area due to it being pitch black (save for the fires and water effects) and ugly rendering bugs blocking my view half of the time. I tried to move close to a red light thingy but it does nothing special. Help ? edit oh , and I have no mouse pointer in menus , rather annoying. All I can suggest is the latest drivers (Bioshock told me my latest driver was problematic and pointed me to a beta driver of all things). I'd also go into the settings and lower the resolution and turn off all effects you can. Adjust the gamma/brightness as well here. See how that goes then turn on effects as you like for best experience while remaining playable.
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.08.21 15:49:00 - [17] Edited by: Stakhanov on 21/08/2007 15:49:09 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h All I can suggest is the latest drivers (Bioshock told me my latest driver was problematic and pointed me to a beta driver of all things). I'd also go into the settings and lower the resolution and turn off all effects you can. Adjust the gamma/brightness as well here. See how that goes then turn on effects as you like for best experience while remaining playable. Well , there is no new driver for my integrated chipset video cards unfortunately I started the game on lowest settings , tried to adjust gamma as well - but all it does is change the empty black background into a dark grey one it seems that my PC refuses to render anything besides the fire , smoke and water effects. There was no noticeable slowdown when I switched settings to highest details - the water effects look prettier , but the rest still seems... missing Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.21 16:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Stakhanov Edited by: Stakhanov on 21/08/2007 15:49:09 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h All I can suggest is the latest drivers (Bioshock told me my latest driver was problematic and pointed me to a beta driver of all things). I'd also go into the settings and lower the resolution and turn off all effects you can. Adjust the gamma/brightness as well here. See how that goes then turn on effects as you like for best experience while remaining playable. Well , there is no new driver for my integrated chipset video cards unfortunately I started the game on lowest settings , tried to adjust gamma as well - but all it does is change the empty black background into a dark grey one it seems that my PC refuses to render anything besides the fire , smoke and water effects. There was no noticeable slowdown when I switched settings to highest details - the water effects look prettier , but the rest still seems... missing What video card do you have? Bioshock does NOT support Shader Model 2.0 (uses SM 3.0) so an older card that cannot handle SM3 is SOL looks like.
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.08.21 19:01:00 - [19] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Upon further reading your problems sound exactly like those described by people with x800 video cards (they do not support SM3). There apparently is not fix for this except a new graphics card. Note I am not saying this is why your game will not run...just a possible suggestion. Thanks , that must be it. Trying to bend minimum system requirements doesn't always work , even when the game doesn't crash Thing is , I have the required 1 GB of RAM , but part of it is used by the integrated graphics card so it wouldn't have worked well anyway. Time to get a real card... Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?

TheDagda Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.08.21 19:25:00 - [20] Ah the demo is on steam and it rockzorz! Definately buying it. Forum Rules \| [email protected] \| CRC Website

Ozzie Asrail Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.21 19:32:00 - [21] 94% downloaded This is gonna be a great game, can't wait for release day. -----
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.21 20:22:00 - [22] Originally by: Ozzie Asrail 94% downloaded This is gonna be a great game, can't wait for release day. Release day is today. UPS just delivered mine. Installing it as I write this. Think I will be out of EVE for a bit.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.21 20:36:00 - [23] Originally by: Stakhanov Thing is , I have the required 1 GB of RAM , but part of it is used by the integrated graphics card so it wouldn't have worked well anyway. Time to get a real card... I've never been a fan of integrated anything (audio or video). Sucks to think you have to buy a new video card just to play a game but assuming your problems are as I mentioned earlier it sounds like it is time for you to take the plunge anyway. Video cards have a roughly 2-3 year lifespan if you play games and yours, I think, is a bit out of date. On the plus side you need not buy the most expensive video card out there to run this. I'd be surprised if a video card sold today did not support SM3 (but double check to be sure). Just the way of the computer world. I have had several uber PCs I built that today couldn't run Windows XP much less a bleeding edge game like BioShock. Endless upgrades and thinning of my wallet seems to be a gamer's lot in life. Note that a video upgrade will help when EVE updates their graphics engine as well (not to mention most any other game you play depending on what card you buy).
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.08.21 20:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Chode Rizoum i played it today... was a bit.. standard ? ?? Kinda felt the same as Chode about it tbh. The art is gorgeous, and I'll play it for that alone. The demo was very linear, nothing particularly new gameplay-wise. You went from room to room, killing things and collecting medpacks. But hey, its just a demo, hopefully they have held a lot of stuff back for the full version. Better that than a game like Prey, where they gave away just about every interesting idea they had in the demo.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.21 21:39:00 - [25] Bioshock is the sequel to system shock 2, right? But I can't find system shock 1 anywhere. Does it exist? --------------------------------------------------------------------
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.21 21:51:00 - [26] Originally by: Aioa Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Chode Rizoum i played it today... was a bit.. standard ? ?? Kinda felt the same as Chode about it tbh. The art is gorgeous, and I'll play it for that alone. The demo was very linear, nothing particularly new gameplay-wise. You went from room to room, killing things and collecting medpacks. I would very much recommend that you take some time and do more than just kill things and collect medpacks. You'll miss out on half the game otherwise. ------------ Whiners - Unite! Tarminic - 26 Million SP in Forum Warfare.
Godlesswanderer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.08.21 22:11:00 - [27] I played the demo on my 360 a few days ago and it's pretty safe to say that I NEED this game. Definately getting it on the PC though, that's just common sense. --------------------------- Custom made EVE graphics
Ribadil	Posted - 2007.08.21 22:24:00 - [28] Any of you steam guys noticed a wee surprise yet? You thought your game was loaded... BUT IT'S NOT!
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.08.21 22:29:00 - [29] Suffice to say I've just tried the demo on my PC (without and then with the aformentioned beta NVIDIA drivers), and intial results point to the linked Bioshock kills PC thread a likely possibility. My AMD 3600+, 1GB Kingston, 7600GST cried. On lowest settings. Definately a PC killer, this game, be warned. PS: I've just had a chat with my techie friend who "obtained" a copy. Says his best gaming PC just blew and his backup silently died as well. I dont know if it's related to it being an "obtained" copy but considering the demo was too hefty even for my min-end, I'm leaning towards the game being too awesome for PC's around the world. - NPC Vendetta system, Local rehash, Probe decoys
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.08.22 00:06:00 - [30] the demo worked perfectly fine for me (amd3000+, 1gig ram and a 7600 agp @ 1024x768 max details) until the first part was finnished. upon loading the second part my comp crashed and the second time i tried the game frooze at exactly the same point.
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.08.22 01:03:00 - [31] The horror atmosphere and dystopian setting are much to my liking but it seemed as if it may become quite generic as the game progresses. I'll most likely only pay for it if the multiplayer seems promising.
JADE DRAG0NESS Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers	Posted - 2007.08.22 01:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Kyozoku The horror atmosphere and dystopian setting are much to my liking but it seemed as if it may become quite generic as the game progresses. I'll most likely only pay for it if the multiplayer seems promising. It seems Bioshock isfollowing a similar line to System shock 2 which basically means the first few 'levels' are mainly for introduction and story advancment purposes. The game itself however does heat up later on so i think this will be a good one. It will also be intersting to hear the full story of this mysterious underwater city. Oh after 2 hours downloading i tried it and loved it it also ran fine on my computer. Intel Duel Core processor 2.6 gig. 3 GiG ram 7950 GTI Nvidia sli graphics card on a GiGabyte Nvida Motherbourd [which aparently increases Nvida cards perfomanve by about 40% - 60% ]. "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Godlesswanderer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.08.22 02:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Kyozoku The horror atmosphere and dystopian setting are much to my liking but it seemed as if it may become quite generic as the game progresses. I'll most likely only pay for it if the multiplayer seems promising. Sorry to break it to you but there is no multiplayer. --------------------------- Custom made EVE graphics
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2007.08.22 05:28:00 - [34] Fantastic setting.... i was blown at the drop in point alone, glugging for air, surrounded by those amazing looking flames. As great as the setting is though.. 5 minutes in... bang it's a generic fps.... that single guy that runs up to you that drops to the floor in one solitary hit from your club. That was my 10 minute impression of the demo, from 10 minutes it's cool n'all... but unless the story sucks me in... i don't see me playing through it on action sequences.. shoot him.. shoot him next.. activate the door ect... All that, i just hope the story realy is the biz, the setting and technical benchmarks are superb.... i wana play through this ______
Multras Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.22 06:04:00 - [35] Just got done playing an 8 hour session of the game, and holy mother of god is it good. It starts off a bit slow, you dont really know wtf is going on or anything, but after about 2 hours the game throws some story at you, but not why its happening. Graphics are top notch, AI is good, weapons are pretty cool (SPOILER: the wrench is pretty much the best weapon after you get the upgrades for your guy). Anyone who says this game sucks or isnt good needs to get their head checked. Thanks to EVE Art Store for the sig.
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.08.22 06:59:00 - [36] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Bioshock is the sequel to system shock 2, right? But I can't find system shock 1 anywhere. Does it exist? Not really. Its just made by the same people. Storywise ita not a sequal )systemshock takes place in the future) SS is quite old now, so it might be hard to find though I found it on download last year. Cant remember where though, Caldari and proud
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.22 08:01:00 - [37] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 22/08/2007 08:03:36 Originally by: Galk As great as the setting is though.. 5 minutes in... bang it's a generic fps.... that single guy that runs up to you that drops to the floor in one solitary hit from your club. That was my 10 minute impression of the demo, from 10 minutes it's cool n'all... but unless the story sucks me in... i don't see me playing through it on action sequences.. shoot him.. shoot him next.. activate the door ect... This kind of reductionism always annoys me. Any game can be reduced in this fashion to sound utterly boring. Every FPS is shoot guys in room, move to next room, shoot guys there. Every RTS is build units, throw them at enemy, rinse and repeat till you win. Heck, EVE is just F1-F8, buy a bigger ship, do it again. Obviously there is a lot more to most games. The BioShock demo does not give you a good taste for the depth of the combat. You get two plasmids in the demo and two guns. What you do not get are the interesting combos you get later in the game and setting traps for your enemies or using various ammo types for different situations. And of course the enemies get more difficult than the first guy you drop with one whack of your wrench. I suppose you could play this as a run and gun shooter but it is so much more fun finding creative ways to kill your enemies (one simple combo is set your enemies on fire and when they run to water to put themselves out electrocute the pool of water...lots of fun that). And of course there is the setting and story and overall atmosphere. Bioshock is more a work of art in this respect and if it is something you cannot appreciate mores the pity for you. If you are a gamer who has become so jaded as to only see, "gun, shoot guy, next" I wonder why you play at all. As for easy enemies wait till you fight a Big Daddy. See how far you get with one whack of a wrench on that guy.
Multras Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.22 08:14:00 - [38] Edited by: Multras on 22/08/2007 08:14:49 even with my wrench and speed abilities the wrench still does nothing to big daddies, sure does tear threw hordes of people though Thanks to EVE Art Store for the sig.
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.08.22 08:53:00 - [39] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Aioa Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Chode Rizoum i played it today... was a bit.. standard ? ?? Kinda felt the same as Chode about it tbh. The art is gorgeous, and I'll play it for that alone. The demo was very linear, nothing particularly new gameplay-wise. You went from room to room, killing things and collecting medpacks. I would very much recommend that you take some time and do more than just kill things and collect medpacks. You'll miss out on half the game otherwise. Bit patronising, but thanks for the 'advice' on how to play games. I explored every inch of the demo and that doesn't change the fact that the gameplay is pretty generic. As I wrote in the bit of my post that you ignored, hopefully the full game will bring more.
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.08.22 09:47:00 - [40] Originally by: Galk That was my 10 minute impression of the demo, from 10 minutes it's cool n'all... but unless the story sucks me in... i don't see me playing through it on action sequences.. shoot him.. shoot him next.. activate the door ect... Did you play Final Fantasy 7? It didnt get me hooked until I had played for maybe one hour. Many games are like that, you have to explore the world, uncover storyline etc etc before you get hooked. Judging a game by a 10 minute demo is perhaps a bit unfair. Caldari and proud
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.08.22 10:37:00 - [41] For those using AVG virus software, fully updated, do a scan on the demo.zip file and the unpacked folder. AVG is reporting a trojan on the setep.exe file. A lot of people are saying, on various forums, that AVG is picking up this "trojan horse Generic6.UMS" file a lot and people are reporting it in the bioshock demo zip. Apparently AVG gave some false positives a while back with WoW but until Grisoft admit to a **** up I'm assuming it's genuine. regards __________________________________
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.08.22 13:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Elliot Reid For those using AVG virus software, fully updated, do a scan on the demo.zip file and the unpacked folder. AVG is reporting a trojan on the setep.exe file. A lot of people are saying, on various forums, that AVG is picking up this "trojan horse Generic6.UMS" file a lot and people are reporting it in the bioshock demo zip. Apparently AVG gave some false positives a while back with WoW but until Grisoft admit to a **** up I'm assuming it's genuine. regards i just scanned it with an upto date copy of nod32, and it came back clean.
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.22 13:44:00 - [43] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 22/08/2007 08:03:36 Originally by: Galk As great as the setting is though.. 5 minutes in... bang it's a generic fps.... that single guy that runs up to you that drops to the floor in one solitary hit from your club. That was my 10 minute impression of the demo, from 10 minutes it's cool n'all... but unless the story sucks me in... i don't see me playing through it on action sequences.. shoot him.. shoot him next.. activate the door ect... This kind of reductionism always annoys me. Any game can be reduced in this fashion to sound utterly boring. Every FPS is shoot guys in room, move to next room, shoot guys there. Every RTS is build units, throw them at enemy, rinse and repeat till you win. Heck, EVE is just F1-F8, buy a bigger ship, do it again. Obviously there is a lot more to most games. The BioShock demo does not give you a good taste for the depth of the combat. You get two plasmids in the demo and two guns. What you do not get are the interesting combos you get later in the game and setting traps for your enemies or using various ammo types for different situations. And of course the enemies get more difficult than the first guy you drop with one whack of your wrench. I suppose you could play this as a run and gun shooter but it is so much more fun finding creative ways to kill your enemies (one simple combo is set your enemies on fire and when they run to water to put themselves out electrocute the pool of water...lots of fun that). And of course there is the setting and story and overall atmosphere. Bioshock is more a work of art in this respect and if it is something you cannot appreciate mores the pity for you. If you are a gamer who has become so jaded as to only see, "gun, shoot guy, next" I wonder why you play at all. As for easy enemies wait till you fight a Big Daddy. See how far you get with one whack of a wrench on that guy. Well put. Reductionism should not be a test of a game. After all all games can be reduced to it's components. Myself, I will be buying this game. I downloaded the demo last night but didn't have time to install and play because my internet was messing up and I wanted to make sure my system could run it decently. And the atmosphere of this game is very interesting and retro-scary. It takes some balls to set it during this time period considering that most kids nowadays have the attention span of a fly and lack the historical knowledge to get the references in the game. All I can say just from looking at the videos and screenshots is bravo! "No matter where you go, there you are" - B
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.08.22 15:19:00 - [44] In an effort to stop piracy they've made the pc version require online registration and it's limited to only 2 installs. Of course it will be *****ed and only legit users will suffer.
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.22 15:29:00 - [45] CCP should do a deal with these guys. If we're gonna have station walking, let's have it like this. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Reiisha Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.22 15:33:00 - [46] Originally by: Elliot Reid For those using AVG virus software, fully updated, do a scan on the demo.zip file and the unpacked folder. AVG is reporting a trojan on the setep.exe file. A lot of people are saying, on various forums, that AVG is picking up this "trojan horse Generic6.UMS" file a lot and people are reporting it in the bioshock demo zip. Apparently AVG gave some false positives a while back with WoW but until Grisoft admit to a ** up I'm assuming it's genuine. regards Did you update it? Mine doesn't detect anything, and it's up-to-date. 1) Don't try and play this game with an integrated video card. 2) Don't try and play this game on overclocked hardware. 3) Hell yes, this game waas nice.** EVE History Wiki
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.22 17:00:00 - [47] Originally by: Aioa Originally by: Tarminic I would very much recommend that you take some time and do more than just kill things and collect medpacks. You'll miss out on half the game otherwise. Bit patronising, but thanks for the 'advice' on how to play games. I explored every inch of the demo and that doesn't change the fact that the gameplay is pretty generic. As I wrote in the bit of my post that you ignored, hopefully the full game will bring more. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I just think that Bioshock is much deeper than it looks on the surface, and simply going through and shooting everything will lead to you experiencing a fairly small subset of the game. I want to try and go through the entire thing without firing a shot and see how far I get. ------------ Whiners - Unite! \| Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist.
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.08.22 17:22:00 - [48] Edited by: Kyozoku on 22/08/2007 17:24:56 Originally by: Reiisha 2)Don't try and play this game on overclocked hardware. PCs are supposed to be permanently on the verge of melting and a little fire here and there is perfectly normal. You should buy some neon fans and UV lights if you're worried about your PC's performance.
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2007.08.22 17:54:00 - [49] 10 minute impression... i think id only been awake for 10 minutes also.. But yeah.... all i actualy did for those brief 10 minutes while droping the first coffee of the day down the trap, pretty much was coooo at the nice graphics, bash a guy with a wrench... and activate a door with an electrical bolt from my hand... very bland... kinda done that before... it's not like i closed the door on it though with my comments.. making it very clear '10 minutes' saw something more.. hoped the story was bang on so i could get past the boring generics of an fps... something not realy worth bashing (eve o forums) as i kept an open mind on it.... Moving on though because i explained all that earlier.. i love games that drag me slowly.. resident evil.. classic example... i couldn't put it down after i found the first clues. Funny you should mention ff7, i bought that on the hype.. never realy played due to lack of free time... got made redundant 2 months later... in the 2 weeks i was out of work, played through it... loved every minute of it. I think these days it's just the multiplayer thing for one... it's time though in truth.. im one of these folks that needs plenty of nothing time to sit there and get engrossed in things.. once it catches me im hooked.. didn't happen in 10 minutes this morning... but it's still an open book... Thank god realy, late for work wouldn't have been good ______
mamolian M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.22 19:18:00 - [50] If I didn't know it was from the makers of Systemshock beforehand, I'd be saying it felt very similar :P Looking forward to playing the full version.. Seems like it will be a lot of fun. At the very least, keep me busy for a day or two. -------------------------------
Multras Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.22 22:55:00 - [51] Just beat it. Was a really good game, but I would suggest renting it (if you are playing it on 360 that is) took me about 12-15 hours on hard mode to beat. Story was cool and it moved more like a book (cant tell you why because of spoilers). I was very happy with my evil ending . Thanks to EVE Art Store for the sig.
Constantine Arcanum PURE Legion Pure.	Posted - 2007.08.22 23:57:00 - [52] Originally by: Reiisha 2) [b]Don't try and play this game on overclocked hardware 4.2 ghz p4 anyone?
Sleepkevert Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.23 00:25:00 - [53] Originally by: Reiisha 1) Don't try and play this game with an integrated video card. Check, 8800GTX present Originally by: Reiisha 2) Don't try and play this game on overclocked hardware. Double check, E6600 still at stock speeds Originally by: Reiisha 3) Hell yes, this game waas nice. Tripple check, gameplay feels good for what you get to play... Problem is, it runs crappy on my setup =/ I can't go 1680x1050 resolution with everything on high. That makes me sad :( Other then that, demo feels good, (when settings are turned down) Definitely getting this one. Sign my sig!
Grez Minmatar Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.23 00:30:00 - [54] Ran like a dream. 210 fps throughout, which was most shocking. First proper use of the Unreal 3.0 engine. Awesome game, going to get it on the 24th from Steam. I've also just heard 2K are doing Mafia 2 \o/. ---
Unvisibility	Posted - 2007.08.23 10:44:00 - [55] Word of warning: The full game requires online activation and patching.... and the patch servers (in the UK at least) are currently down with no ETA for a fix. This means that if, like me, you had the game arrive in the post this morning you cannot play it at all until they fix the patch servers >_< Another victory for the anti-piracy idiots in publishing companies that put useless attempts to protect their profits before the interests of gamers who actually buy the damn software. Going to go looking for a pirate copy of it now, since that would seem to be the only way to actually play it.
Ealiom Infinitus Morti R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.23 13:41:00 - [56] just bought the game! Looking forward to playing away tonight. God bless G-Force for breaking street dates ModelsBlackbird Executioner
Hydraxian Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.23 14:18:00 - [57] Played the Demo this morning, really impressive i have to say I think i have to admit that i jumped a few times.. the atmosphere really is excellent Oh and i DL'd on Steam which maxed out my bandwitch easily lol
Sereifex Daku	Posted - 2007.08.23 14:52:00 - [58] Anyone know if Bioshock will come with one of those dodgy 'anti-piracy' programs like starforce? Because if so then I won't buy it. I refuse to be punished for buying a game.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.23 15:10:00 - [59] Originally by: Sereifex Daku Anyone know if Bioshock will come with one of those dodgy 'anti-piracy' programs like starforce? Because if so then I won't buy it. I refuse to be punished for buying a game. think it's a system like HL2 where you need to be online to activate/run it. --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Syrin Wildfire Laboratrories The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.08.23 16:01:00 - [60] It is one of those ones you need to connec tot the internet to activate. Also you only get 2 licensed install credits to use (installed on 2 machines) then it locks out further installs until you remove 1 properley (This violates their own EULA). You MUST have SM3 on your card even though its not quoted on the specs.. lemme see what else.. oh yeah, Securerom installs a rootkit on your PC (even the demo does too). Think that about covers it.
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.23 18:23:00 - [61] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Sereifex Daku Anyone know if Bioshock will come with one of those dodgy 'anti-piracy' programs like starforce? Because if so then I won't buy it. I refuse to be punished for buying a game. think it's a system like HL2 where you need to be online to activate/run it. Yeah I think if you buy it through Steam you could re-install it indefinitely because of Steam. And I am with Sereifex, I despise those stupid anti-piracy sa*uards because the punish the legit guys who buy them. Which in turn makes people like me who do buy them to go and find *s to get rid of crap like that. I remember when Battlefield required you to have the CD in tray in order to play....which was stupid as because you only played it online anyways which in turned required authorization in order to play it anyways! Not to mention starting up the game was slower because it kept checking the stupid CD before it loaded. A *** got rid of that and it cut my load time down by half which was huge when you were playing on less than a gig of RAM. TBH they just need to give up the anti-piracy thing with all the copy protection crap because it just doesn't work. It's an arms race and like all arms races, no one wins. OK, mini-rant over with lol. When I installed the demo and start to play it my mouse is invisible and I can hear the game just fine and I can see the fire but I see all these yellow squares floating around instead of anything else. Maybe it's my drivers I don't know. "No matter where you go, there you are" - B
Syrin Wildfire Laboratrories The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.08.23 19:59:00 - [62] Apparently steam users still have the 2 install restriction.. wonderful isnt it http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16
Reiisha Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.23 20:18:00 - [63] Edited by: Reiisha on 23/08/2007 20:19:51 I just got it. So far, i'm not regretting it... I hope it lasts a good 15+ hours at least, not the kind of wishy washy incredibly short stuff like Prey or similar. Also, i'd not advise to buy this game if you're not prepared to deal with some installation issues. ATM you can only activate it on 2 different machines - And uninstallation reputedly does not clear up a licensed activation. At the moment, the retail version can be installed only twice, and if you lose your Steam version through a crash, you've lost 1 of your 2 installations there too. At the moment it's a risky buy, and i'll be looking for a ***** to get around the activation issues myself to be safe. edit: I'm running a Core 2 Duo E6550, 2GB 800MHz DDR2 and a GeForce 8600GT. The game runs fine at 1024x768 at max settings, although barely (30-35+ fps, maybe a bit more. but not less). Should be safe to run for most people :) EVE History Wiki
Syrin Wildfire Laboratrories The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.08.23 20:24:00 - [64] Loved the demo, uninstalled it in anticipation of getting the full game, but cant get rid of the bloody rootkit. 2K have kindly gone silent more or less over it, anyone got any ideas other than a full format ?
Multras Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.23 21:44:00 - [65] Edited by: Multras on 23/08/2007 21:44:02 Glad the 360 doesnt have all this garbage . Thanks to EVE Art Store for the sig.
Sereifex Daku	Posted - 2007.08.23 21:47:00 - [66] Originally by: Syrin Edited by: Syrin on 23/08/2007 20:32:46 Loved the demo, uninstalled it in anticipation of getting the full game, but cant get rid of the bloody rootkit. 2K have kindly gone silent more or less over it, anyone got any ideas other than a full format ? If anyone hadnt guessed, im a bit cheesed at them. How dare they install this stuff on my Pc without prior permission and notice. Its not in the EULA. Its kinda useless as theres a pirate copy on torrent already. really hope they remove this stupid nosense and let me go buy the game i want to play without being treated like a criminal.. only ones wining so far are pirates. That's it! I'm downloading it illegally to bypass all that **. They had their chance, but they have made me too scared to pay for their game. So ** them right up the ass.
Mardonius Gallente Get out of the Kitchen Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.24 00:35:00 - [67] Originally by: Sereifex Daku That's it! I'm downloading it illegally to bypass all that **. They had their chance, but they have made me too scared to pay for their game. So ** them right up the ass. Would you forgive me if I said that your decision was financially motivated? You probably just wanted it for free anyway, unless this is your idea of meting out some capitalist justice. If you really wanted to be fair-and-square ethically, you'd buy the game, so the developers get something for their work, and then you'd download the pirated version, so you can play the game you want. Are you telling me the developers deserve to lose some hard-earned money just based on one mistaken decision concerning copyright fraud? They probably didn't make the decision anyway, it could have been the publishers or an exec. Who knows? I think you're behaving like a freeloading parasite. If you value their work, your integrity, and the gaming industry in general, you won't use pirated software without paying for the game. But do what you want. I can't stop you. Just drop the righteous indignation bullcrap as a reason not for paying them to use their product.
Sereifex Daku	Posted - 2007.08.24 00:46:00 - [68] Originally by: Mardonius Originally by: Sereifex Daku That's it! I'm downloading it illegally to bypass all that **. They had their chance, but they have made me too scared to pay for their game. So ** them right up the ass. Would you forgive me if I said that your decision was financially motivated? You probably just wanted it for free anyway, unless this is your idea of meting out some capitalist justice. If you really wanted to be fair-and-square ethically, you'd buy the game, so the developers get something for their work, and then you'd download the pirated version, so you can play the game you want. Are you telling me the developers deserve to lose some hard-earned money just based on one mistaken decision concerning copyright fraud? They probably didn't make the decision anyway, it could have been the publishers or an exec. Who knows? I think you're behaving like a freeloading parasite. If you value their work, your integrity, and the gaming industry in general, you won't use pirated software without paying for the game. But do what you want. I can't stop you. Just drop the righteous indignation bullcrap as a reason not for paying them to use their product. Not really, the game companies are going to far in their zealous attempt to prevent copying of their products. The only way they will ever learn is through failure. If I paid for the game and then illegally downloaded it that wouldn't get the message across now, would it? As for the devs, I don't like robbing them of success like this but it's their fault for working for a company that is run by people who are so inept that they don't realise that these precautions actually increase internet piracy. I actually preordered this game on Amazon, but I quickly cancelled that once reading the last few posts in this thread. If I'm going to be punished for legitimately buying a game then it's not my fault. I shall ilegally download it because I know that there will be no neo-criminal 'anti-piracy' viruses waiting to infect my computer.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.24 00:59:00 - [69] Originally by: Buxaroo OK, mini-rant over with lol. When I installed the demo and start to play it my mouse is invisible and I can hear the game just fine and I can see the fire but I see all these yellow squares floating around instead of anything else. Maybe it's my drivers I don't know. Not 100% sure on this but this sounds like what happens when your video card does not support Shader Model 3 (SM3). I have read a lot of complaints from x800 card owners (apparently a lot of them) and this sounds like what they experience and this is due to the x800 card not supporting SM3 (only supports SM2). There is no fix for this save buying a new video card. I think pretty much everything on the market today should support SM3 but I'd double check to be sure before spending money on it.
Mardonius Gallente Get out of the Kitchen Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.24 01:19:00 - [70] Originally by: Sereifex Daku Not really, the game companies are going too far in their zealous attempt to prevent copying of their products. The only way they will ever learn is through failure. If I paid for the game and then illegally downloaded it that wouldn't get the message across now, would it? As for the devs, I don't like robbing them of success like this but it's their fault for working for a company that is run by people who are so inept that they don't realise that these precautions actually increase internet piracy. If it was merely the decision of the publisher then this will at least send a message to them. I actually preordered this game on Amazon, but I quickly cancelled that once reading the last few posts in this thread. If I'm going to be punished for legitimately buying a game then it's not my fault. I shall ilegally download it because I know that there will be no neo-criminal 'anti-piracy' viruses waiting to infect my computer. So you're saying that your chosen response is the only one that will get through to them? Have you seen the 2K forums? There is a sticky at the very top of their BioShock general forums created by the community manager to discuss the issue. The same thread contains links to pirated versions of the game free for download on torrent sites (already ahead of UK release, mind you). It had to be created because the forums were clogged by similar threeds. Both PCG UK and US have published web articles criticizing the decision to use secuROM. What I'm saying is that they're probably already wise. They know that they've messed up big time. They've certainly alienated their hard-core fanbase. Also, there are other ways for you to get the message across to whom it may concern. You could write them a letter. You could write them angry e-mails every day. You could create an online petition. You can do all these things, and still pay for the game, but use a pirated version that's free of a rootkit. But no, you decided to choose an option that involves you playing the game for free, effectively stealing their work. I have nothing more to add. I'm just calling BS on your ethics. But it'll be interesting to see how the general secuROM issues plays through in the following months.
Sereifex Daku	Posted - 2007.08.24 01:27:00 - [71] So you're saying that your chosen response is the only one that will get through to them? Have you seen the 2K forums? There is a sticky at the very top of their BioShock general forums created by the community manager to discuss the issue. The same thread contains links to pirated versions of the game free for download on torrent sites (already ahead of UK release, mind you). It had to be created because the forums were clogged by similar threeds. Both PCG UK and US have published web articles criticizing the decision to use secuROM. What I'm saying is that they're probably already wise. They know that they've messed up big time. They've certainly alienated their hard-core fanbase. Also, there are other ways for you to get the message across to whom it may concern. You could write them a letter. You could write them angry e-mails every day. You could create an online petition. You can do all these things, and still pay for the game, but use a pirated version that's free of a rootkit. But no, you decided to choose an option that involves you playing the game for free, effectively stealing their work. I have nothing more to add. I'm just calling BS on your ethics. But it'll be interesting to see how the general secuROM issues plays through in the following months. Oh come on, no they won't say "Daku stole our game, let's change tactics!" but hopefully I won't be the only one and they will say "well...a lot of people stole our game, the irony would be funny if my boss wasn't firing me for being incompetant". So what if they are already aware of the damage they have inflicted upon themselves? I won't stop until they cease these foolish schemes. When I spend my money on a game, I expect it to play no matter how many times I've installed it, and I certainly don't want any surprises. This is like hiring a hooker that specialises in giving her customers aids... So there we have it. I'm simply doing this to gain something without being 'hurt' in any way, if the game was free of that ****e then I would gladly pay for it. But this game, as well as many others has been poorly designed, and I will not reward people for trying to screw me over.
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.24 01:47:00 - [72] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Buxaroo OK, mini-rant over with lol. When I installed the demo and start to play it my mouse is invisible and I can hear the game just fine and I can see the fire but I see all these yellow squares floating around instead of anything else. Maybe it's my drivers I don't know. Not 100% sure on this but this sounds like what happens when your video card does not support Shader Model 3 (SM3). I have read a lot of complaints from x800 card owners (apparently a lot of them) and this sounds like what they experience and this is due to the x800 card not supporting SM3 (only supports SM2). There is no fix for this save buying a new video card. I think pretty much everything on the market today should support SM3 but I'd double check to be sure before spending money on it. Dude, thanks for that bit of info. I will hold off buying it until I get a new videocard. "No matter where you go, there you are" - B
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.24 03:30:00 - [73] Originally by: Reiisha Also, i'd not advise to buy this game if you're not prepared to deal with some installation issues. ATM you can only activate it on 2 different machines - And uninstallation reputedly does not clear up a licensed activation. At the moment, the retail version can be installed only twice, and if you lose your Steam version through a crash, you've lost 1 of your 2 installations there too. The developer is increasing the number of installations from 2 to 5. They are also going to release a "deauthorization" tool so you can get back a previously used license. Originally by: Syrin Loved the demo, uninstalled it in anticipation of getting the full game, but cant get rid of the bloody rootkit. 2K have kindly gone silent more or less over it, anyone got any ideas other than a full format ? SecuROM does NOT use a rootkit in its implementation. If you have one it came from somewhere else. Granted, like many other people, I am not thrilled with the whole SecuROM thing but they are falling over themselves to say rootkits have no part in their software.
Sereifex Daku	Posted - 2007.08.24 03:49:00 - [74] SecuROM keeps telling me my legitimately bought games are illegally downloaded games. I hate them so much >.<
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.24 04:12:00 - [75] Originally by: Sereifex Daku SecuROM keeps telling me my legitimately bought games are illegally downloaded games. I hate them so much >.< Yeah...you and a few thousand other people it seems. SecuROM seems to get **y if certain things are running on your PC. In particular I have seen reports that AVG needs to be stopped or entirely removed (unacceptable of course and may have been resolved with an update...I have AVG and all runs fine but many report this). Daemon Tools seems to ** it off and even some legitimate Microsoft tools such as Process Explorer screws it up. Of course there may be many more I am unaware of and I am in complete agreement that including SecuROM was a HUGE mistake on 2Ks part. Legitimate buyers are getting hosed in droves. Pirates got around it before it was even officially for sale. Who knows how much 2K had to pay SecuROM for use of this software? Now people are returning their games or avoiding buying it and many are turning to pirated versions as an option. While the pirates were fine all along. I'd wager 2K has lost a good deal more money over all of this than they have saved because SecuROM foiled a would-be pirate. I appreciate their desire to protect their work and make a profit from it but I cannot see how this helps at all.
Reiisha Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.24 04:34:00 - [76] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Reiisha Also, i'd not advise to buy this game if you're not prepared to deal with some installation issues. ATM you can only activate it on 2 different machines - And uninstallation reputedly does not clear up a licensed activation. At the moment, the retail version can be installed only twice, and if you lose your Steam version through a crash, you've lost 1 of your 2 installations there too. The developer is increasing the number of installations from 2 to 5. They are also going to release a "deauthorization" tool so you can get back a previously used license. Originally by: Syrin Loved the demo, uninstalled it in anticipation of getting the full game, but cant get rid of the bloody rootkit. 2K have kindly gone silent more or less over it, anyone got any ideas other than a full format ? SecuROM does NOT use a rootkit in its implementation. If you have one it came from somewhere else. Granted, like many other people, I am not thrilled with the whole SecuROM thing but they are falling over themselves to say rootkits have no part in their software. Awesome about the tool/increase. Rootkit Revealer revealed the SecuROM rootkit on my fresh, new PC... Hate to burst your bubble, but Bioshock does install a SecuROM rootkit. EVE History Wiki
Kirex Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.24 06:11:00 - [77] Yes I played the demo and loved it. But I'm not going to buy it with that securom crap. Hint Hint. :P
Jastra Gallente Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.08.24 10:05:00 - [78] Edited by: Jastra on 24/08/2007 10:06:00 Just installed the actual game, if it comes with Securerom it's invisible to me and vista 64 didnt seem to mind anyway, and neither did Norton 360. I only have one PC good enough to play it on anyway :D So far it's good, the graphics are very stylish, so far havent gotten to the bits that seem to have got the reviewers into gobsmacked mode but it's a very enjoyable game
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.24 20:09:00 - [79] Originally by: Reiisha Rootkit Revealer revealed the SecuROM rootkit on my fresh, new PC... Hate to burst your bubble, but Bioshock does install a SecuROM rootkit. You need to read up more on what a rootkit actually is. What SecuROM is installing is not a rootkit. Rootkit Revealer spots the registry entry from SecuROM as a possible rootkit because of the asterisk at the end but it is still not a rootkit.
Egetsunai Yajuu	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:30:00 - [80] my pc so wont run this AMD XP 2600+ geforce 7600GT 2GB ram but then, I've had it a god 4 years, so it's done well. ram and gfx have been upgraded since I bought it, but not the processor. something else to add to my "games to buy when I get a new PC" list!
Reiisha Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.25 07:41:00 - [81] Get a new PC :P I'm betting the 7600 is also agp... Anyway, i just finished the game. No spoilers from me, don't worry :) FYI: For the entire game i ran it on 1024x768, on max detail (Windows XP though, so DX9 only). It ran at a nice and constant 25-30+ fps, with very, very few hitches here and there where it got a bit below 20. Specs: Core 2 Duo E6550, 2GB DDR2 800, GF 8600GT. Nothing too fancy. Also: I did not update my vid drivers as was instructed - I didn't need them. Didn't want to install them either since they weren't on the NVidia page. The game works fine without them. EVE History Wiki
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.08.25 09:04:00 - [82] Originally by: Egetsunai Yajuu my pc so wont run this AMD XP 2600+ geforce 7600GT 2GB ram but then, I've had it a god 4 years, so it's done well. ram and gfx have been upgraded since I bought it, but not the processor. something else to add to my "games to buy when I get a new PC" list! You'd be surprised. It's not as taxing to run as people would lead you to believe.
Tigrelilly	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:11:00 - [83] im running it on a 2.2 1gig ram gforce 6600gt (pci express) and its fine
Egetsunai Yajuu	Posted - 2007.08.25 16:52:00 - [84] Originally by: Reiisha Get a new PC :P I'm betting the 7600 is also agp... damn right it is! very much time to get a new pc, will get one when I start earning at some point

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