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Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force	Posted - 2007.08.27 21:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: DarknessInc Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I was rather disappointed by AVP myself being a huge fan of aliens and predators. But I kinda saw it coming due to alien 3 and resurrection. My biggest issue with AVP was how fast the first 2 predators died and only one of them thought to acid proof his weapons. That and cobwebs in a temple that's been buried under the ice in the antarctic for thousands of years. It'd be nice to see a better sequel but I'm not giving up my hopes. Will still go watch it in theatres though. And Constatine was awesome. Well also with the predators there were horrible inaccuracies. The first two predators were Unblooded, meaning they werent skilled at the hunt. But the helmets were too easy punched through my the Xenomorphs inner jaws. Their helmets should have withstood a few punches from the inner jaws before ***ing and giving way, but the makers of the film decided to let them be so flimsy that one bite pierced through. Ironic how a bullet can ping off the Hunters helmet but a Xenomorph inner jaw attack punches right through. and the older Predator which acid proofed his weapons was blooded and was there to Oversee the Blooding hunt, so that the unblooded ones wouldnt cheat and would hunt with Honor. :P and yes, I know a lil too much about Predators and Aliens I definitly don't know as much of the lore as you but I could swear in the movie they explained the history as that only the chosen predators who have proved themselves in the hunt are allowed to undergo this trial of hunting the ultimate prey. Even the last predator still marked his helmet and himself after he made that kill. To me it was just lame that the alien managed to get 2 kills in right off the bat. I can see the first kill because the predators were distracted but not the second. Predators are more skillful than that. oh and I don't know if anyone remembers this but this actually isn't the first time Aliens and predators met. If you watch predator 2 when Danny Glubber is on the predator ship he goes and looks at the trophies, you actually can see a alien skull there. My knowledge is a little hazy but through backstory i think aliens are actually something the predators hunt all the time or maybe i just misread what u wrote. Originally by:** SPQRMocton We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.27 22:09:00 - [32] Originally by: Captain Hudson Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: DarknessInc Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I was rather disappointed by AVP myself being a huge fan of aliens and predators. But I kinda saw it coming due to alien 3 and resurrection. My biggest issue with AVP was how fast the first 2 predators died and only one of them thought to acid proof his weapons. That and cobwebs in a temple that's been buried under the ice in the antarctic for thousands of years. It'd be nice to see a better sequel but I'm not giving up my hopes. Will still go watch it in theatres though. And Constatine was awesome. Well also with the predators there were horrible inaccuracies. The first two predators were Unblooded, meaning they werent skilled at the hunt. But the helmets were too easy punched through my the Xenomorphs inner jaws. Their helmets should have withstood a few punches from the inner jaws before *****ing and giving way, but the makers of the film decided to let them be so flimsy that one bite pierced through. Ironic how a bullet can ping off the Hunters helmet but a Xenomorph inner jaw attack punches right through. and the older Predator which acid proofed his weapons was blooded and was there to Oversee the Blooding hunt, so that the unblooded ones wouldnt cheat and would hunt with Honor. :P and yes, I know a lil too much about Predators and Aliens I definitly don't know as much of the lore as you but I could swear in the movie they explained the history as that only the chosen predators who have proved themselves in the hunt are allowed to undergo this trial of hunting the ultimate prey. Even the last predator still marked his helmet and himself after he made that kill. To me it was just lame that the alien managed to get 2 kills in right off the bat. I can see the first kill because the predators were distracted but not the second. Predators are more skillful than that. oh and I don't know if anyone remembers this but this actually isn't the first time Aliens and predators met. If you watch predator 2 when Danny Glubber is on the predator ship he goes and looks at the trophies, you actually can see a alien skull there. My knowledge is a little hazy but through backstory i think aliens are actually something the predators hunt all the time or maybe i just misread what u wrote. Well theres a couple of backstories. I don't know much about the comic books, that's my brothers department. In AVP however the backstory I got when that guy was translating the walls was that the predators found the human race in it's caveman period. They taught us how to build pyramids and in turn we viewed them as gods. They brought the queen to earth and every 100 years they would come back to earth with a group of proven hunters to test their might against the ultimate prey. Should they survive they were deemed the champions of their race but should they fail they made sure nothing lived. They used humans for sacrificial lambs to make the ultimate prey. An example is at the end when you see the grand poomba standing over whats-her-face and she see's that he bears the marking of the great hunt on his helmet. Now in alien history theres several different histories that you can look at. In the original Alien movie the crew enters a alien ship and finds the eggs. You also see whats left of another alien species. One history defines that this alien race engineered Aliens to be the ultimate weapon (toughened exosteleton, acid for blood, being able to breed from any host...) but their 'weapon' kinda backfired on them. In another history this other alien race was actually fighting the aliens and this particular ship was infected at some point in time and crash landed on LV-426. Thats just what I got from watching the movies (some of the alien stuff I got from a book) ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.08.27 22:13:00 - [33] I liked AVP, this one has more gore & death, so even better! My Infinity Ship Designs: T-Y9, Hauler
Princess Kuki Minmatar Vengeance Imperium	Posted - 2007.08.27 22:53:00 - [34] Looks alot better than the first one at least... bits in the trailer reminded me of aliens actually, still the best one yet, best action movie ever really
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.27 23:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Princess Kuki Looks alot better than the first one at least... bits in the trailer reminded me of aliens actually, still the best one yet, best action movie ever really Yeah, you can't beat Aliens. That one had awesome from start to finish. That's it! Game over man, game over! ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Royaldo Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education	Posted - 2007.08.28 03:09:00 - [36] Originally by: Death Kill Edited by: Death Kill on 26/08/2007 14:10:48 Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Death Kill Its directed by the jerk who did poseidon and constantine This movie is gonna suck ass from a straw. Are you saying Constantine was bad? Heh I assumed it was. Watching it right now, so far 'not so bad'. edit : lol at him stomping that crabb dude. i love the end with stormare. hes great as satan.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.08.28 03:21:00 - [37] Originally by: Royaldo Originally by: Death Kill Edited by: Death Kill on 26/08/2007 14:10:48 Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Death Kill Its directed by the jerk who did poseidon and constantine This movie is gonna suck ass from a straw. Are you saying Constantine was bad? Heh I assumed it was. Watching it right now, so far 'not so bad'. edit : lol at him stomping that crabb dude. i love the end with stormare. hes great as satan. Yeah, he totally makes the movie. "I've got stock." Pure hilarity. I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
New Dice Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.28 05:27:00 - [38] I am taking a wild guess that the anthropmorphic predator wins THEN allies himself with america and kills ***** bin laden. oh, mr Bay isn't directing this film, phew. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -8<- - - - - - - Stab some scissors into the screen and cut me out.
DarknessInc Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.28 09:10:00 - [39] Originally by: Captain Hudson Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: DarknessInc Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I was rather disappointed by AVP myself being a huge fan of aliens and predators. But I kinda saw it coming due to alien 3 and resurrection. My biggest issue with AVP was how fast the first 2 predators died and only one of them thought to acid proof his weapons. That and cobwebs in a temple that's been buried under the ice in the antarctic for thousands of years. It'd be nice to see a better sequel but I'm not giving up my hopes. Will still go watch it in theatres though. And Constatine was awesome. Well also with the predators there were horrible inaccuracies. The first two predators were Unblooded, meaning they werent skilled at the hunt. But the helmets were too easy punched through my the Xenomorphs inner jaws. Their helmets should have withstood a few punches from the inner jaws before *****ing and giving way, but the makers of the film decided to let them be so flimsy that one bite pierced through. Ironic how a bullet can ping off the Hunters helmet but a Xenomorph inner jaw attack punches right through. and the older Predator which acid proofed his weapons was blooded and was there to Oversee the Blooding hunt, so that the unblooded ones wouldnt cheat and would hunt with Honor. :P and yes, I know a lil too much about Predators and Aliens I definitly don't know as much of the lore as you but I could swear in the movie they explained the history as that only the chosen predators who have proved themselves in the hunt are allowed to undergo this trial of hunting the ultimate prey. Even the last predator still marked his helmet and himself after he made that kill. To me it was just lame that the alien managed to get 2 kills in right off the bat. I can see the first kill because the predators were distracted but not the second. Predators are more skillful than that. oh and I don't know if anyone remembers this but this actually isn't the first time Aliens and predators met. If you watch predator 2 when Danny Glubber is on the predator ship he goes and looks at the trophies, you actually can see a alien skull there. My knowledge is a little hazy but through backstory i think aliens are actually something the predators hunt all the time or maybe i just misread what u wrote. the Predator (Yautja in their own language) and the Xenomorphs history goes back a bit. Predator clanships and normal hunting ships carry stasis pods with Xenomorph eggs, for deployment on a particular planet they want to hunt on. Deploy the eggs, allow the population to become infested and a hive to appear. The Blooding ritual, or the challenge for teenage predators to become true hunters IS to fight the Kiande Ameda. Hard Meat. aka Xenomorphs, due to their dangerous nature. If a Unblooded warrior can survive against the Alien, he is worthy enough to be a hunter of the clan. Though for blooded warriors to go after Aliens is a different matter. Some do it as a pack in a mission to capture a Queen for designed blooding courses, such as was seen in the first movie. Or Single predators will go basically on a suicide run for the highest challenge ever, entering the hive, fighting its way through and then killing the Queen. Her skull would hold the highest honor due to the difficulty in killing her. /signed. Much love to you too - Wachtmeister
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.08.28 09:19:00 - [40] Edited by: ry ry on 28/08/2007 09:19:45 Originally by: Freki Grimnir Originally by: Death Kill I agree. I dont know anything about the comics, but I'm really tired of how movies about fighting the supernatural always have to invovle some crappy looking homemade guns and gadgets. The first few Hellblazer comics had none of that crap, haven't read more than the first couple though. I liked Constantine but I saw it after I had read the comics so was a little disappointed. Keanu Reeves is not a mousy-blonde haired, manky looking scouser. Spike from buffy actually looks more like John Constantine than Keanu did. i'm a massive hellblazer fanboy, and although the film was a bit ******s with virtually nothing in common with the source material beyond John Constantine's name, it was relatively entertaining. hellblazer has a lot of stories to tell and for the most part it is depressing as hell. proper* hellblazer would make a superb tv series, but hollywood blockbuster it ain't.
Lucian Alucard Caldari Black Vice Industries	Posted - 2007.08.28 10:00:00 - [41] Am I the only one who screamed "BOOm1 Rampage!" at the double headshot?
jarack The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.28 10:55:00 - [42] I loved the first AVP film due to the fact its Aliens and Predator in the same film Storyline wasn't that great, but the fight scenes were good. Looking forward to this Christmas, I'll be going to watch...
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.08.28 12:08:00 - [43] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 28/08/2007 12:15:24 Edited by: SoftRevolution on 28/08/2007 12:10:03 Meh. AvP the first was chuffing terrible. It was just a montage of stuff from the other films + a dash of Indiana Jones. It wasn't even done especially well. The script was substandard. Any visceral impact any of it should have had is totally gone thanks to it following five other films. I dozed through most of it. I can't even begin to imagine how the second could be anything other than terrible. A predator with two pew-pews? How desperate are they to do anything that hasn't been covered in the five original films (Aliens Resurrection doesn't count) or the comic books? Ugh. Which imbecile green lit this? edit Oh, yeah. Hunting the Aliens is something the predators do as a sporting event. Like the FA Cup or Superbowl. In the first comic book series they bring antique gear to do it with so they're not neccesarily using their best stuff. Just wouldn't be cricket. That said, people who argue about the logic of sci-fi die alone with their 23 cats.
DarknessInc Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.29 16:52:00 - [44] Originally by: SoftRevolution Edited by: SoftRevolution on 28/08/2007 12:15:24 Edited by: SoftRevolution on 28/08/2007 12:10:03 Meh. AvP the first was chuffing terrible. It was just a montage of stuff from the other films + a dash of Indiana Jones. It wasn't even done especially well. The script was substandard. Any visceral impact any of it should have had is totally gone thanks to it following five other films. I dozed through most of it. I can't even begin to imagine how the second could be anything other than terrible. A predator with two pew-pews? How desperate are they to do anything that hasn't been covered in the five original films (Aliens Resurrection doesn't count) or the comic books? Ugh. Which imbecile green lit this? edit Oh, yeah. Hunting the Aliens is something the predators do as a sporting event. Like the FA Cup or Superbowl. In the first comic book series they bring antique gear to do it with so they're not neccesarily using their best stuff. Just wouldn't be cricket. That said, people who argue about the logic of sci-fi die alone with their 23 cats. What if our cats are already dead and stuffed :) /signed. Much love to you too - Wachtmeister
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.29 17:31:00 - [45] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 29/08/2007 17:35:01 They did an interview with the director a little while ago as I remember... he said he was going to fix the massive screwup that was AvP and this time it was going to be rated R. Plus it looks like the whole wooded area and the city will be pretty faithful to the books and comics. Been an Alien and Predator nut since I was about 7, so I gotta go see this 8Edit* also looks like the Yautja invented some new weapons... nice to see their technology evolving... it been almost 20 years, about time Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Jevus Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad	Posted - 2007.08.29 20:57:00 - [46] Would anybody be so kind as to point me to where i can buy the Spin-off Novels for AVP?? Although i'm not usually one for reading books these sound pretty interesting!! Thanks
Ararius e X i l e FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.29 21:27:00 - [47] Theres one thing that this needs to be complete SOme guy freaking out and yelling "GAME OVER MAANN GAME OVER!!!!!!!" Originally by: Alski It depends how much CCP learn from past user interface mistakes, i'm sure they'll do very well, but if not i'll be right clicking on random people and selecting "Orbit at 0.5m"
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.29 21:34:00 - [48] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 29/08/2007 21:34:53 Originally by: Ararius Theres one thing that this needs to be complete SOme guy freaking out and yelling "GAME OVER MAANN GAME OVER!!!!!!!" Already beat you to it. In fact I'll one up it ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
DarknessInc Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:06:00 - [49] Edited by: DarknessInc on 30/08/2007 01:10:23 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 29/08/2007 17:35:01 They did an interview with the director a little while ago as I remember... he said he was going to fix the massive screwup that was AvP and this time it was going to be rated R. Plus it looks like the whole wooded area and the city will be pretty faithful to the books and comics. Been an Alien and Predator nut since I was about 7, so I gotta go see this 8Edit* also looks like the Yautja invented some new weapons... nice to see their technology evolving... it been almost 20 years, about time Well not ALL predators belong to the same clan. There are many many many clans that roam throughout the universe, and not all of them encounter the same type of Xenomorphs due to the wide difference in hosts. But each Clanship holds a HUGE clan, and I wouldnt put it past them to develop their own unique clan weapons, such as the whip. Sure there are the basics that each clan started out with. The Wristblades, The Plasma Caster, Smart Disc, Gauntlet Caster (Think plasmacaster, but smaller. and on the gauntlet). And each Hunter, if they have gone on enough hunts and survived, would also customize their weaponry to suit themselves? I think so. PS: PlasmaCaster is the true name of the Shoulder Cannon. And anyone who thinks its horrible that Wolf has two mounted on each shoulder should be glad the director didnt take the AVPB (/Anti Vehicle Plasma Bolt) Cannon from the comics. The HUGE Anti-Vehicle/Ship weapon. If youve played Planetside, think of the Lancer. Lemme go find a picture later EDIT. I couldnt find a picture of it but I found a description. " This weapon would never be used for a hunt. Designed primarily for defending Predator landing craft, this weapon launches a "packet" of compressed plasma to a distance of three miles! Fired in the same way as a bazooka or rocket propelled grenade (RPG), it is considered barely "Yautja portable". This weapon has the approximate power of a shipboard laser cannon. Only good for sixty shots before needing an overhaul. Simply put, this is a dirty radiation weapon. The relatively unfocused energy is deadly for even mildly prolonged use to any race with human like tolerances to radiation. The Yautja have a strong immunity to high radiation levels, so they use this weapon with impunity as needed. The weight is 175 pounds and its range is 3 miles." /signed. Much love to you too - Wachtmeister
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:17:00 - [50] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 30/08/2007 01:18:20 Originally by: Jevus Would anybody be so kind as to point me to where i can buy the Spin-off Novels for AVP?? Although i'm not usually one for reading books these sound pretty interesting!! Thanks Amazon.com Search Aliens vs Predator... I'm sure they got em all. Hopefully you'll be a new fan To guy above me And I suppose that Yautja with 2 Plasmacasters is just doing an aahnold impression Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:20:00 - [51] It's rated 18, so we're looking at some serious gore here. That's a good thing. But that cast is worse than the first film. The first at least had people i'd heard of, but I don't know a single actor in the cast list. That's a bad thing.
DarknessInc Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:20:00 - [52] Edited by: DarknessInc on 30/08/2007 01:21:23 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 30/08/2007 01:18:20 Originally by: Jevus Would anybody be so kind as to point me to where i can buy the Spin-off Novels for AVP?? Although i'm not usually one for reading books these sound pretty interesting!! Thanks Amazon.com Search Aliens vs Predator... I'm sure they got em all. Hopefully you'll be a new fan To guy above me And I suppose that Yautja with 2 Plasmacasters is just doing an aahnold impression Nah. Not Arnold. I think Wolf prefers the sequel to the first. "You are one...ugly..mother..." Pred: "Mother..:Fbleeper" But seriously, this is the best christmas gift Fox has ever given me. Pure, unadulterated violence from my two favorite genres Originally by: QwaarJet It's rated 18, so we're looking at some serious gore here. That's a good thing. But that cast is worse than the first film. The first at least had people i'd heard of, but I don't know a single actor in the cast list. That's a bad thing. Watching the same people over and over gets boring. New talent is a good refresh. and if you watch 24, youll recognize the girl :) /signed. Much love to you too - Wachtmeister
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:21:00 - [53] naw, I like new ppl in movies. they sometimes turn out to be great actors Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
DarknessInc Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:23:00 - [54] Edited by: DarknessInc on 30/08/2007 01:22:56 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny naw, I like new ppl in movies. they sometimes turn out to be great actors heya plunder, wanna sign up for the History of the Yautja Culture and its effect on Native Species course Im running? :) /signed. Much love to you too - Wachtmeister
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:55:00 - [55] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Death Kill Its directed by the jerk who did poseidon and constantine This movie is gonna suck ass from a straw. Are you saying Constantine was bad? No it was horrible, it sucked goat cheese balls without dip. Casting was horrible for John Constantine, Ewan McGregor was a given as the blond english chainsmoking nihilist, not the exotic dark hawaiin bimbo they did cast. Anyone that read and enjoyed Hellblazer surely must've felt like they were butchering the whole series by adding all the plots into one movie as mere footnotes when they, with a talented director easily could've been turned into a worthwhile series of movies about the occult. Also Known As
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.30 01:59:00 - [56] Originally by: DarknessInc Edited by: DarknessInc on 30/08/2007 01:22:56 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny naw, I like new ppl in movies. they sometimes turn out to be great actors heya plunder, wanna sign up for the History of the Yautja Culture and its effect on Native Species course Im running? :) hmmm.... maybe Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Inturist Capital Spaceship Industries	Posted - 2007.08.30 02:27:00 - [57] Hm , LOTS of blood ^^ , can't wait \o/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.30 03:04:00 - [58] Originally by: QwaarJet It's rated 18, so we're looking at some serious gore here. That's a good thing. But that cast is worse than the first film. The first at least had people i'd heard of, but I don't know a single actor in the cast list. That's a bad thing. Michelle Desler is in it, damnit. Jack Bauer will come save her ass, im sure. Rabblerabble -Sahwoolo
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.30 04:21:00 - [59] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Death Kill Its directed by the jerk who did poseidon and constantine This movie is gonna suck ass from a straw. Are you saying Constantine was bad? No it was horrible, it sucked goat cheese balls without dip. Casting was horrible for John Constantine, Ewan McGregor was a given as the blond english chainsmoking nihilist, not the exotic dark hawaiin bimbo they did cast. Anyone that read and enjoyed Hellblazer surely must've felt like they were butchering the whole series by adding all the plots into one movie as mere footnotes when they, with a talented director easily could've been turned into a worthwhile series of movies about the occult. heh, personally I thought it was awesome. The comic books are my brothers department although it wouldn't change my mind either way. I've read books and watched movies before and liked them both ways. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.08.30 05:37:00 - [60] Because of this thread I had to see AVP again. Its amazing how the facehuggers manage to plant an egg in a human, and the egg transforms itself into a fullgrown alien all within 24 hours. Paul WS Anderson has to be one of the worst directors outthere together with Uwe Boll. Everything they touch turns into poo. Caldari and proud

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