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DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.30 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: QwaarJet It's rated 18, so we're looking at some serious gore here. That's a good thing. But that cast is worse than the first film. The first at least had people i'd heard of, but I don't know a single actor in the cast list. That's a bad thing.
Michelle Desler is in it, damnit. Jack Bauer will come save her ass, im sure.
Ohh man. Jack beating down an Alien then having a gunfight with Wolf (the main predator in the movie) and at the end? He foils the aliens plot to take down the american government. Next, on 24...
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.30 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill Because of this thread I had to see AVP again.
Its amazing how the facehuggers manage to plant an egg in a human, and the egg transforms itself into a fullgrown alien all within 24 hours.
Paul WS Anderson has to be one of the worst directors outthere together with Uwe Boll. Everything they touch turns into poo.
Eh, That's how fast they really do form. The facehugger stays attached for a few hours. Within about 10 hours the chestburster comes out and starts eating any material nearby wether it is organic or inorganic. Within 24 hours it becomes a full grown male. If there is no queen within the area then the males can actually plant a queen egg.
Unfortunatly in AVP it seemed like the aliens grew up in about 20 minutes time instead of the 24 hours cause it seemed like the crew was inside of the temple for maybe 2 hours.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Death Kill Because of this thread I had to see AVP again.
Its amazing how the facehuggers manage to plant an egg in a human, and the egg transforms itself into a fullgrown alien all within 24 hours.
Paul WS Anderson has to be one of the worst directors outthere together with Uwe Boll. Everything they touch turns into poo.
Eh, That's how fast they really do form. The facehugger stays attached for a few hours. Within about 10 hours the chestburster comes out and starts eating any material nearby wether it is organic or inorganic. Within 24 hours it becomes a full grown male. If there is no queen within the area then the males can actually plant a queen egg.
Unfortunatly in AVP it seemed like the aliens grew up in about 20 minutes time instead of the 24 hours cause it seemed like the crew was inside of the temple for maybe 2 hours.
Actually the drones that burst out cannot construct an Egg, as thats the duty of the queen, as only she can have an eggsack to produce eggs.
Usually only a Royal Egg can release a Royal Chestburster, which will infect a host with the Queen chestburter. That Chestburster has the potential to start a new hive, as it will grow into a full queen.
In hives there are Mini Queens, which are basically like officers. Praetorians. Because of the presence of the Queens, the Praetorians are her Royal Guard, though the Queen is also protected by Warrior class xenomorphs aswell, which are bulkier and more dangerous than the drones, which are faced in the first Alien, Aliens and Aliens Ressurection.
Scout type Xenomorphs, which are encountered in Aliens 3, are spawned from more nimble hosts, and are the source of the Hive finding hosts and food outside the immediate area of the Hive. But in Aliens, you can see the Warriors in the Hive when Ripley goes down to save Newt. The Queen warns them off as Ripley threatens the Eggs with the Torch.
But back to Praetorians. When a Hive grows large enough, a few Praetorians will leave the Hive with a few drones, and will travel a great distance away from their Original Hive to start a new one. Sometimes the Praetorians fight each other for NEW hive locations, but once they settle down into a new location, the drones will dig and resin the walls in prepartion for the Queens egg chamber, and after that the Praetorian will go through the growth cycle to become a full fledged Queen, who then begins to produce eggs. Drones will then expand the hive as others explore outside in the vicinity of the new hive for hosts, drag them into the Hive and have them infected for More drones, or more Warriors.
The new hive will not breed Praetorians as it is small, but once it grows to a nominal size, Praetorian eggs will be birthed in prepartion for another expansion on another part of the planet.
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Death Kill Because of this thread I had to see AVP again.
Its amazing how the facehuggers manage to plant an egg in a human, and the egg transforms itself into a fullgrown alien all within 24 hours.
Paul WS Anderson has to be one of the worst directors outthere together with Uwe Boll. Everything they touch turns into poo.
Eh, That's how fast they really do form. The facehugger stays attached for a few hours. Within about 10 hours the chestburster comes out and starts eating any material nearby wether it is organic or inorganic. Within 24 hours it becomes a full grown male. If there is no queen within the area then the males can actually plant a queen egg.
Unfortunatly in AVP it seemed like the aliens grew up in about 20 minutes time instead of the 24 hours cause it seemed like the crew was inside of the temple for maybe 2 hours.
Actually the drones that burst out cannot construct an Egg, as thats the duty of the queen, as only she can have an eggsack to produce eggs.
Usually only a Royal Egg can release a Royal Chestburster, which will infect a host with the Queen chestburter. That Chestburster has the potential to start a new hive, as it will grow into a full queen.
In hives there are Mini Queens, which are basically like officers. Praetorians. Because of the presence of the Queens, the Praetorians are her Royal Guard, though the Queen is also protected by Warrior class xenomorphs aswell, which are bulkier and more dangerous than the drones, which are faced in the first Alien, Aliens and Aliens Ressurection.
Scout type Xenomorphs, which are encountered in Aliens 3, are spawned from more nimble hosts, and are the source of the Hive finding hosts and food outside the immediate area of the Hive. But in Aliens, you can see the Warriors in the Hive when Ripley goes down to save Newt. The Queen warns them off as Ripley threatens the Eggs with the Torch.
But back to Praetorians. When a Hive grows large enough, a few Praetorians will leave the Hive with a few drones, and will travel a great distance away from their Original Hive to start a new one. Sometimes the Praetorians fight each other for NEW hive locations, but once they settle down into a new location, the drones will dig and resin the walls in prepartion for the Queens egg chamber, and after that the Praetorian will go through the growth cycle to become a full fledged Queen, who then begins to produce eggs. Drones will then expand the hive as others explore outside in the vicinity of the new hive for hosts, drag them into the Hive and have them infected for More drones, or more Warriors.
The new hive will not breed Praetorians as it is small, but once it grows to a nominal size, Praetorian eggs will be birthed in prepartion for another expansion on another part of the planet.
Life cycle of the Alien
*The facehugger can change sex if there is no queen (hugger) nearby. The Queen carries the Q hugger with her with her smallest pair of arms. When the Queen dies, the Q facehugger leaps off and hibernates until a host walks by. The Q hugger will produce a Queen. You can recognize a Q hugger by it's higher ridges and spikes at the base of the tail.
Now I read in a book I had long ago that the drones are capable of laying eggs if there is no queen present but the eggs are inferior to the queens and they only serve the purpose of making a queen if one is not present. Unfortunatly through all my efforts to keep this book around it eventually crumble and was destroyed and I've been on a mission for almost a decade to find another copy of it. I know the company that published it (they also did alot of stuff on Terminator) went out of business when I was like 8.
What we're seeing here is multiple publications from different authors on the lifestyles of a made up species.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.31 00:57:00 -
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ohh. and I found a good Representation of the Heavy Plasma Caster/Anti Ship Plasma Bolt Cannon that is from the comics.
Heavy Plasma Caster
That is featured in the comics, and this artist did a lovely render of it. NOW imagine that being toted around by Wolf. the Militaries M1A1 Abrams wouldnt stand even a chance
/signed. Much love to you too - Wachtmeister |

Captain Hudson
Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force
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Posted - 2007.08.31 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc ohh. and I found a good Representation of the Heavy Plasma Caster/Anti Ship Plasma Bolt Cannon that is from the comics.
Heavy Plasma Caster
That is featured in the comics, and this artist did a lovely render of it. NOW imagine that being toted around by Wolf. the Militaries M1A1 Abrams wouldnt stand even a chance
wolf aint a very alien name is it?
Originally by: SPQRMocton
We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.31 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Hudson
Originally by: DarknessInc ohh. and I found a good Representation of the Heavy Plasma Caster/Anti Ship Plasma Bolt Cannon that is from the comics.
Heavy Plasma Caster
That is featured in the comics, and this artist did a lovely render of it. NOW imagine that being toted around by Wolf. the Militaries M1A1 Abrams wouldnt stand even a chance
wolf aint a very alien name is it?
Wolf is the nickname given to the main predator in the movie. Think LONE Wolf. He is one predator, survivor of the crashed ship, etc.
Atleast thats what has been confirmed so far, that there will be one Predator and no pred-human team ups.
:P the Yautjas real name would be in clicks and chirps
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.31 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
Quote:
*The facehugger can change sex if there is no queen (hugger) nearby. The Queen carries the Q hugger with her with her smallest pair of arms. When the Queen dies, the Q facehugger leaps off and hibernates until a host walks by. The Q hugger will produce a Queen. You can recognize a Q hugger by it's higher ridges and spikes at the base of the tail.
Okay. If you look at how much the Hybrid Predalien can kill and defend against. Imagine what kind of abomination would be spawned if the Queen Hugger infected a Yautja warrior instead of a normal drone egg. Royal Predalien. Hybrid Queen. :)
Kinda makes you wonder where the facehuggers come from 
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.31 04:20:00 -
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And in the one book there was a human female who got blooded and lived and hunted with the Yautja... there was a small Yautja she called "Shorty" that had a real problem with her and she kicked his ass (ans saved his ass in a Xenomorph hive, the ultimate disgrace )
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.31 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny And in the one book there was a human female who got blooded and lived and hunted with the Yautja... there was a small Yautja she called "Shorty" that had a real problem with her and she kicked his ass (ans saved his ass in a Xenomorph hive, the ultimate disgrace )
I believe she becomes blooded in the 3rd part of Deadliest of the Species or the 2nd
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.31 05:12:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 31/08/2007 05:14:09
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Eh, That's how fast they really do form. The facehugger stays attached for a few hours. Within about 10 hours the chestburster comes out and starts eating any material nearby wether it is organic or inorganic. Within 24 hours it becomes a full grown male. If there is no queen within the area then the males can actually plant a queen egg.
Unfortunatly in AVP it seemed like the aliens grew up in about 20 minutes time instead of the 24 hours cause it seemed like the crew was inside of the temple for maybe 2 hours.
Yesh that was what I ment. It happened all to quickly especially when you compare it with the first alien movie.
edit : Damn all this alien talk I will be forced to have an Alien marathon tonight
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 07:54:00 -
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dudes... Ive seen the trailer.
It looks like they are gonna make AVP into a gorno movie. I mean... a predator with some kind of uber whip that cuts an alien in half.....
Its like indiana predator.....
I promise you this movie is gonna SUCK. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.31 07:59:00 -
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I think its about time they make Alien vs predator vs terminator.
Skynet sends terminators back in time to kill aliens and predators because they threaten to exterminate humans thus making the creation of skynet impossible.
Oh wait........
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.31 08:24:00 -
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This movie can't suck... how can you go wrong with a 17+ movie with preds and aliens?
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny This movie can't suck... how can you go wrong with a 17+ movie with preds and aliens?
its that kind of reasoning that makes such movies suck: "all we need to do to break even, at least, is 17+, preds and aliens and gore. WIN!" ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
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Posted - 2007.08.31 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill Because of this thread I had to see AVP again.
Its amazing how the facehuggers manage to plant an egg in a human, and the egg transforms itself into a fullgrown alien all within 24 hours.
Paul WS Anderson has to be one of the worst directors outthere together with Uwe Boll. Everything they touch turns into poo.
Too true, both of them are horrific and have commited crimes against humanity with their IQ lowerin crapfest movies
AvP 1 was one of teh worst movies of all time and destroyed 2 great movie franchises now you people are gonna go see its bastard offspring? =/
Save your dam money people only an idiot would go see that movie, its going to be TERRIBLE so lets not give them any reason to even THINK about doing a 3rd one!
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Xtreem
Gallente Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.31 09:56:00 -
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looks OK, ill prob see it as i see everything, im a movie ***** :(
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.08.31 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill I'm really tired of how movies about fighting the supernatural always have to invovle some crappy looking homemade guns and gadgets.
Like you'd find gadgets to beat supernaturals in Walmart. 
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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XenoPagan
Enterprise Estonia
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Posted - 2007.08.31 11:41:00 -
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gonna go and watch it for sure, I just love everything that is related to Alien BUT I must express my sorrow that another Alien movie comes and it doesn't have space marines in it :( c'mon! I want to hear the sound of smartgun on the bigscreen again! alas, again... on the earth, here and now...
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 11:44:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Death Kill Because of this thread I had to see AVP again.
Its amazing how the facehuggers manage to plant an egg in a human, and the egg transforms itself into a fullgrown alien all within 24 hours.
Paul WS Anderson has to be one of the worst directors outthere together with Uwe Boll. Everything they touch turns into poo.
Too true, both of them are horrific and have commited crimes against humanity with their IQ lowerin crapfest movies
AvP 1 was one of teh worst movies of all time and destroyed 2 great movie franchises now you people are gonna go see its bastard offspring? =/
Save your dam money people only an idiot would go see that movie, its going to be TERRIBLE so lets not give them any reason to even THINK about doing a 3rd one!
I think people are hoping that AvP2 will redeem itself, bringing the series' back to their original glory. If AvP1 was the last movie ever in the franchise, that'd be one hell of a low note to end on.
But if AvP2 is crap, I think that'll be the last nail in the coffin for both series', and that'll mean not even the most forlorn hope of a third Alien versus Predator computer game (AND ME WANTY SO BAD!!!!!)  ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.31 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 31/08/2007 16:36:55
Originally by: Cornucopian
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny This movie can't suck... how can you go wrong with a 17+ movie with preds and aliens?
its that kind of reasoning that makes such movies suck: "all we need to do to break even, at least, is 17+, preds and aliens and gore. WIN!"
These movies are for the fans... not some whiny fat guy who likes to stick his thumb up in the air like he's Julius ******* Caesar 
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.31 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian dudes... Ive seen the trailer.
It looks like they are gonna make AVP into a gorno movie. I mean... a predator with some kind of uber whip that cuts an alien in half.....
Its like indiana predator.....
I promise you this movie is gonna SUCK.
Not much different from the Frisbee of Doom or the Retractable armor piercing rocket assisted blade staff. Or the rectractable electrical net that can break metal.
Personally I think the whip is kinda cool. And if what these guys are saying with there only being one predator, well, it looks like he's just going to town with everything in sight which is how a predator should be, instead of a couple getting owned by one alien when even a group of marines could take aliens out by the dozens.
Personally I'm gonna wait until it comes out to decide if it sucks or doesn't suck instead of being a doomsayer of old.
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Jevus
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.08.31 21:43:00 -
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I want more Colonial Marines!!
I think a while back they were going to release a new game called colonial marines but it got axed :(
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.31 22:37:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Cornucopian dudes... Ive seen the trailer.
It looks like they are gonna make AVP into a gorno movie. I mean... a predator with some kind of uber whip that cuts an alien in half.....
Its like indiana predator.....
I promise you this movie is gonna SUCK.
Not much different from the Frisbee of Doom or the Retractable armor piercing rocket assisted blade staff. Or the rectractable electrical net that can break metal.
Personally I think the whip is kinda cool. And if what these guys are saying with there only being one predator, well, it looks like he's just going to town with everything in sight which is how a predator should be, instead of a couple getting owned by one alien when even a group of marines could take aliens out by the dozens.
Personally I'm gonna wait until it comes out to decide if it sucks or doesn't suck instead of being a doomsayer of old.
The fact that he is going to hell with anything at his disposal and his inability to die quickly is because he is an Experienced hunter. Hes cleaning up the mess his clanship left behind when it crashed, including any humans that get in his way. But his true mission? To kill the Abomination that spawned from his clanmates chest.
The story will be where the Hybrid grew within the predator ship and began attacking the Hunters within it, damaging the ship from the inside and eventually causing it to crash land on earth. And this will happen within a week or two of when the Clan ship took off from the Antarctic, so that it will still be within the Earths atmosphere, probably awaiting the return of OTHER newly Blooded hunters
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Jevus
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.08.31 23:11:00 -
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I have justed looked through Wiki and noted the names and ISBN numbers of about 20 novels... I shall be sending the mrs to the library tomorrow to start ordering them in :)
Can't wait! Have watched Alien 1-4, both pred movies and AVP in the past couple of days so need to keep the fix going :)
Do ya reckon my local library will have any in stock??
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Rofel Meights
Maza Nostra oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.09.01 01:48:00 -
[86]
The Alien series got worse and worse for me personally, since they explored them more and more and eventually it was no longer some mysterious and terrifying creature hiding in the darkness, but a kung-fu-esque battle of 1 super-strong species and another.
It looks like this new AVP is trying to redeem itself through excessive gore and grousome deaths. It wont help for me personally, since in the end you will still know whats out there, you know nothing has really changed - the same old alien that you know now everything about (looks, habits, abilities) against the same old ninja-in-plate predator.
They need a twist, i hope it has one.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.09.01 02:06:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Rofel Meights The Alien series got worse and worse for me personally, since they explored them more and more and eventually it was no longer some mysterious and terrifying creature hiding in the darkness, but a kung-fu-esque battle of 1 super-strong species and another.
It looks like this new AVP is trying to redeem itself through excessive gore and grousome deaths. It wont help for me personally, since in the end you will still know whats out there, you know nothing has really changed - the same old alien that you know now everything about (looks, habits, abilities) against the same old ninja-in-plate predator.
They need a twist, i hope it has one.
Looks like the Predalien is making it's big appearance not at the very end of the movie 
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Constantinee
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.01 03:46:00 -
[88]
what i like is the fact that they are bringing back the predator thing. In AVP 1 they showed mercy to humans...like wtf man. Preds are designed to kill whatever breaths and looking at the trailer they are doing just that. i think effects will be off the wall...story may be a bit lame but ill watch it. preds are my favorite but that chick trying to play a sigorny weaver type role....no no. --------------------
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.09.01 07:22:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Constantinee what i like is the fact that they are bringing back the predator thing. In AVP 1 they showed mercy to humans...like wtf man. Preds are designed to kill whatever breaths and looking at the trailer they are doing just that. i think effects will be off the wall...story may be a bit lame but ill watch it. preds are my favorite but that chick trying to play a sigorny weaver type role....no no.
The Yautja have a tribal system based on a strong sense of honor... if there's no challenge in the hunt then there is no honor in it and a violation of this can get a Yautja banished to some rathole planet and he'll have to restore his honor or he'll die in exile... it's a pretty complex society 
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force
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Posted - 2007.09.01 15:20:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Captain Hudson on 01/09/2007 15:21:37 Their writting the script of Alien 6 atm.. hope its good, what storyline would you like to see? id like to see them finally reach earth and have some massive battles with coloinel marines!
Originally by: SPQRMocton
We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
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