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SunglassesInSpace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 18:28:00 -
[121]
These forums have been garbage long before jamie 315.
It all started with bob forum circlejerking imo.
I mean seriously I know I'm biased but is there no1 outside of the bob/goon war that realises that bob are ********?
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 18:35:00 -
[122]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Twoside Seriously, blaming goons is just insane, they are just better then those who dominated caod before.
Funny, but I can't remember BoB posting ****ography, racist cartoons, pro-terrorism and other illegal content on these forums.
Or would you care to back up your claim, since you like to 'make an argument' to back up your posts?
Please back up this claim.
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 18:57:00 -
[123]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Twoside Seriously, blaming goons is just insane, they are just better then those who dominated caod before.
Funny, but I can't remember BoB posting ****ography, racist cartoons, pro-terrorism and other illegal content on these forums.
Or would you care to back up your claim, since you like to 'make an argument' to back up your posts?
Please back up this claim.
Have screenshots of many many many examples. Feel free to evemail me an email address and I will forward them to you, if you're really so desperate to see examples. But since you already know it to be true, I can only assume you're being facetious. Way to go. You rock.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 19:16:00 -
[124]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Twoside Seriously, blaming goons is just insane, they are just better then those who dominated caod before.
Funny, but I can't remember BoB posting ****ography, racist cartoons, pro-terrorism and other illegal content on these forums.
Or would you care to back up your claim, since you like to 'make an argument' to back up your posts?
Please back up this claim.
Have screenshots of many many many examples. Feel free to evemail me an email address and I will forward them to you, if you're really so desperate to see examples. But since you already know it to be true, I can only assume you're being facetious. Way to go. You rock.
Evemail sent. I notice you only have 1 man in your corp. Is this character actually just a CAOD posting alt?
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Dhip C
Minmatubbies
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Posted - 2007.09.09 19:23:00 -
[125]
I love to see all these goons waaanbulance posts...bob started it, Bob did it first. Who gives a freck, your the problem quit ****ing the forums for everyone. Bob posting smack is one thing, the goons forum assault that started a few months back is another. Your membership is havent posted anything worthwile like...ever.
You guys suck at forums. For real.
Now fofofofofo.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 19:26:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Dhip C I love to see all these goons waaanbulance posts...bob started it, Bob did it first. Who gives a freck, your the problem quit ****ing the forums for everyone. Bob posting smack is one thing, the goons forum assault that started a few months back is another. Your membership is havent posted anything worthwile like...ever.
You guys suck at forums. For real.
Now fofofofofo.
Like I said previously, I apologize on behalf of goonswarm for us turning these forums into a terrible place. Before our arrival CAOD was the pinnacle of good sportsmanship and civil discourse. We clearly have upset the delicate balance of cheerful jabs and banter that existed over the previous years. For that I am truly sorry.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 19:28:00 -
[127]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Dhip C I love to see all these goons waaanbulance posts...bob started it, Bob did it first. Who gives a freck, your the problem quit ****ing the forums for everyone. Bob posting smack is one thing, the goons forum assault that started a few months back is another. Your membership is havent posted anything worthwile like...ever.
You guys suck at forums. For real.
Now fofofofofo.
Like I said previously, I apologize on behalf of goonswarm for us turning these forums into a terrible place. Before our arrival CAOD was the pinnacle of good sportsmanship and civil discourse. We clearly have upset the delicate balance of cheerful jabs and banter that existed over the previous years. For that I am truly sorry.
Hey MC you guys are real good at fighting ^_^
No BoB YOU'RE real good at fighting ^_^
No MC YOU'RE the best ^_^
No BoB YOU'RE the best ^_^
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 19:53:00 -
[128]
Edited by: General Windypops on 09/09/2007 19:53:49
Originally by: NO BRAKES I notice you only have 1 man in your corp. Is this character actually just a CAOD posting alt?
For a character who only entered the game on 1/8/07 you have a remarkable knowledge of what the forums were like in pre-Goon times. Or... wait a second... you're not just an alt are you?!?
Oh and no, I'm not a forum alt - I'm an empire gank alt  
Will send you mail with the links to the screenshots - I'd host them on my own webspace, but knowing Goons it would probably then be hit by DoS.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 20:08:00 -
[129]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 09/09/2007 19:53:49
Originally by: NO BRAKES I notice you only have 1 man in your corp. Is this character actually just a CAOD posting alt?
For a character who only entered the game on 1/8/07 you have a remarkable knowledge of what the forums were like in pre-Goon times. Or... wait a second... you're not just an alt are you?!?
Oh and no, I'm not a forum alt - I'm an empire gank alt  
Will send you mail with the links to the screenshots - I'd host them on my own webspace, but knowing Goons it would probably then be hit by DoS.
I'm posting as a member of my alliance regardless of age. The corporation would be the same no matter what character I decided to post with.
Why do you think goons would DoS your server? You are thowing out a lot of accusations with no proof so far.
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 20:29:00 -
[130]
Edited by: General Windypops on 09/09/2007 20:29:49
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Why do you think goons would DoS your server? You are thowing out a lot of accusations with no proof so far.
Don't talk drivel. I have evemailed you links to the screenshots. I kept it to one example of extreme racism, one of anti semitism, and one of mocking the victims of terrorist attrocities. I didn't send you the screenshots of remedial and his girlfriend as, for some reason, I wasn't comfortable keeping copies of those on my pc...
As for the comment about DoS I am simply being entirely sensible. Given the large number of Goon enemies whose TS / forums are hacked it seems an entirely reasonable thing to do - everyone should be cautious on the information superhighway.
So I've sent you clear, undeniable proof. When are you sending me your proof? Or were you just talking horlicks on your forum troll account?
I look forward to receiving your evemail with comparable posts by members of BoB. I'm sure I won't have to wait long... will I?
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 20:44:00 -
[131]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 09/09/2007 20:29:49
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Why do you think goons would DoS your server? You are thowing out a lot of accusations with no proof so far.
Don't talk drivel. I have evemailed you links to the screenshots. I kept it to one example of extreme racism, one of anti semitism, and one of mocking the victims of terrorist attrocities. I didn't send you the screenshots of remedial and his girlfriend as, for some reason, I wasn't comfortable keeping copies of those on my pc...
As for the comment about DoS I am simply being entirely sensible. Given the large number of Goon enemies whose TS / forums are hacked it seems an entirely reasonable thing to do - everyone should be cautious on the information superhighway.
So I've sent you clear, undeniable proof. When are you sending me your proof? Or were you just talking horlicks on your forum troll account?
I look forward to receiving your evemail with comparable posts by members of BoB. I'm sure I won't have to wait long... will I?
When did I say I had comparable posts by members of BoB? I certainly dont spend my time on this forum collecting screenshots of images people now banned from the forums have posted. I merely asked for you to back up your claim, which you still wont do in public, therefore meaningless to anyone else on this forum. Goon and Goon ally ts/ webpages have been hacked plenty as well, so I fail to see your point other than you making a very weak logical argument and ad hominem attack on over 4000+ paying eve customers. And again I submit to you this:
Quote: Like I said previously, I apologize on behalf of goonswarm for us turning these forums into a terrible place. Before our arrival CAOD was the pinnacle of good sportsmanship and civil discourse. We clearly have upset the delicate balance of cheerful jabs and banter that existed over the previous years. For that I am truly sorry.
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 21:58:00 -
[132]
Edited by: General Windypops on 09/09/2007 22:02:17 Edited by: General Windypops on 09/09/2007 22:00:37
Originally by: NO BRAKES When did I say I had comparable posts by members of BoB?
Well given your insistence on the need for proof to support arguments, and your criticism of those who don't I assumed you'd have at least prepared a paper-thin argument to support your claims. I guess I over-estimated you. It's surprising, though, that you claim BoB were spamming forums with posts that are worse than goons, but aren't able to find a single one.
Originally by: NO BRAKES I merely asked for you to back up your claim, which you still wont do in public, therefore meaningless to anyone else on this forum.
Well if you had any integrity you would, of course, have acknowledged the screenshots that I sent you. However considering you're just a WUM it's hardly surprising you won't. I'd offer to send the screenshots to any genuine enquirer who needed proof, but all you need to do is go to the Eve Search website to see the unmoderated abuse / ****ography that Goons post before the moderators get to it. And if, as you claim, proof is required for anything to be 'meaningful to the community' then I'm sure you'll understand how little your own smacktalk counts for. There's a very obvious reason why people don't post links to posts that were removed for offensive content on these forums. I'm surprised you're not familiar with the forum rules, given your quantity of posting.
Originally by: NO BRAKES I fail to see your point other than you making a very weak logical argument and ad hominem attack on over 4000+ paying eve customers.
Awww bless. You really don't get this, do you? I provide hard facts, you acknowledge that you have none. As for 'ad hominem' attacks - do you understand what this phrase means? Sounds to me like you read it on the forums somewhere and think it sounds kind of important. Do yourself a favour, and read up on what it actually means before you make yourself look like a total ass. You refer to offending 4000+ paying customers - I look forward to hearing your justification for the threadnought and OOG slander exercise your alliance launched on the entire Eve community.
It's been a pleasure talking to you, however. Thanks for your continuing contribution to the Eve community.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.09 22:04:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Martin Mckenna
I realy did think the EVE community was alot more mature than this but day after day im proven wrong and im sure that alot of the other players who use the CAOD forums to find out what going on around eve will also agree with me.....
Why would you ever think that 
EVE forums, especially CAOD are a breeding ground for people with very few social skills and the need to insult others to feel good about themselves.
Maybe once upon a time, there was a mature population, but now it has been over run with virtual chest beating "omg wtf pwnd, I am l33tzor" muppets.
Welcome to the blizzard marketing strategy 
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 22:23:00 -
[134]
Originally by: General Windypops
Well given your insistence on the need for proof to support arguments, and your criticism of those who don't
I only wrote "Please back up this claim." I made no criticisms. Stop arguing blindly.
Originally by: General Windypops
As for 'ad hominem' attacks - do you understand what this phrase means? . Do yourself a favour, and read up on what it actually means before you make yourself look like a total ass.
I think you should look up what this means as well.
Moving on, I've done nothing but apologize for goons behaviour in this thread.
So far you've done nothing except make claims you can not back up, personal insults to my character, and make allegations about my alliance as a whole that you can not provide any logical proof for.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.09 22:28:00 -
[135]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
So far you've done nothing except make claims you can not back up, personal insults to my character, and make allegations about my alliance as a whole that you can not provide any logical proof for.
That is what the General does, ease up on the guy NO BRAKES, take away his baseless arguments and personal attacks, and what does he have left 
Give the troll a break
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

Ramlir
0.0 Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.09 22:52:00 -
[136]
These alts must have so much proof against Goons that it takes hours to sort through and host. Yes, that must be it.
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 22:57:00 -
[137]
Originally by: NO BRAKES So far you've done nothing except make claims you can not back up, personal insults to my character, and make allegations about my alliance as a whole that you can not provide any logical proof for.
I'm not surprised you made a new character for posting on the forums. I don't think I've ever met a WUM who was so incompetent at arguing their case in 4 years playing Eve.
Maybe you're prefer I keep it simple? Ok.
Make claims I can't back up: Sent you the mail with hard proof. Unable to read? Not my problem.
Insults to your character: What's this? A goon who can't take criticism? I thought goon philosophy was 'if you can't take it, don't read it'. I know Goonies are getting sensitive these days, but you must need some special attention. Do I have any respect for you? No, you make allegations on internet forums, about imaginary spaceships and don't even have the creativity to respond in an intelligent manner when given evidence. Feel free to prove me wrong - remember, your original argument was that Goon posting was less offensive than BoB posting. Given your wildly erratic, ill-informed posting tonight you're not really doing your 'side' much good, are you?
That aside, what do you mean by 'logical proof for': that phrase makes no sense - is it suddenly my job to explain the metaphysical reasons why your corp post offensive crap on the forums? Or do you just not understand the word 'logical'. Remember to look up 'ad hominem' while you have the dictionary open.
Even for a goon, your posts are embarrassing.
Caveat: Given your posts, it might well be that English isn't your first language. If not, please let me know. It would explain the illogicality in your ramblings.
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:04:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: NO BRAKES
So far you've done nothing except make claims you can not back up, personal insults to my character, and make allegations about my alliance as a whole that you can not provide any logical proof for.
That is what the General does, ease up on the guy NO BRAKES, take away his baseless arguments and personal attacks, and what does he have left 
Give the troll a break
I think we've found No Brakes' main!
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:07:00 -
[139]
Originally by: General Windypops
I'm not surprised you made a new character for posting on the forums.
It's actually a trade alt, I sold my previous character. Things like this are insignificant as I am posting with my corp/ alliance ticker on and it is not a 1 man posting alt corporation.
Originally by: General Windypops
Make claims I can't back up: Sent you the mail with hard proof. Unable to read? Not my problem.
The mail I got were highly edited and cropped jpg files that have no way to prove validity especially since you are unwilling to post them to the public yet feel free to discredit others in public.
Originally by: General Windypops
Insults to your character: What's this? A goon who can't take criticism? I thought goon philosophy was 'if you can't take it, don't read it'.
Your insults are ineffectual. I'm pointing out the logical fallacy of using insults towards my person instead of replying with facts of any kind whatsoever.
Originally by: General Windypops
I don't think I've ever met a WUM who was so incompetent at arguing their case in 4 years playing Eve.
What is my case? What is my argument? I've only posted here asking you to back up your very inflammatory claim. I've made no mention of BoB or any other entity here.
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Ozen Skryf
Renovatio Industries Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:13:00 -
[140]
Originally by: General Windypops
I think we've found No Brakes' main!
I think we found our transsexual stripper and midget arguing.
To the pole or gtfo. --- Patience. |

Director Stoned
Band of Developers
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:15:00 -
[141]
When i was in 3rd or 4th grade boys and girls did not hang out with eachother. girls were considered yucky.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:23:00 -
[142]
Originally by: General Windypops
I think we've found No Brakes' main!
Maybe I am his alt, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that you are a little troll
Your ridiculous arguments, plus the way you resort to personal attacks when your posts are picked apart mercilessly are an incentive to CAOD trolls everywhere.
They should make a shrine for you 
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:25:00 -
[143]
Originally by: NO BRAKES It's actually a trade alt, I sold my previous character.
What a surprise!
Originally by: NO BRAKES The mail I got were highly edited and cropped jpg files that have no way to prove validity especially since you are unwilling to post them to the public yet feel free to discredit others in public. [/QUOTE]
Um. You do realise that EVERYONE can see what's posted and moderated on Eve-Search, right? Feel free to post my 'highly edited and cropped' jpg files for all to judge. Or are you too scared to post proof of how little respect your alliance has for the eve community? As I mentioned before, any reasonable request for the files won't be a problem, so stop talking nonsense.
Originally by: No Brakes
Your insults are ineffectual. I'm pointing out the logical fallacy of using insults towards my person instead of replying with facts of any kind whatsoever.
Good god man, you really are desperate aren't you? Did you post your hard proof of Bob posting offensive, illegal content in another thread? Or am I the only one offering proof here?
I find it quite amusing that Goons are starting to get a bit panicked about the way they're perceived in the Eve community. Goons seem to be churning out more and more pseudo spin-doctors to try to salvage their image. Seems to me that they're finally realising how unpopular they are with the wider community, and are now desperately trying to repair the damage. I think most people would have more respect for them if they admitted that their leadership has no discipline on forum posting, apologised for the way they're debasing the community.
No Brakes - if your leadership has genuinely given you responsibility to act on behalf of your alliance, and to try to clear your name then I'd like to make some constructive suggestions.
- State official Goon policy on forum posting - make it clear that the offensive posts are not officially sanctionsed - Demonstrate your recognition that these posts are unacceptable, and provide examples of people who have been kicked.
However I suspect that goon leadership is too concerned about the huge numerical advantage they have to ever take a stand against their own members.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:26:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: General Windypops
I think we've found No Brakes' main!
Maybe I am his alt, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that you are a little troll
Your ridiculous arguments, plus the way you resort to personal attacks when your posts are picked apart mercilessly are an incentive to CAOD trolls everywhere.
They should make a shrine for you 
Please, no need to throw insults back at someone. I have several characters, all in goonfleet. I post on this one because I like the name.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:29:00 -
[145]
Edited by: NO BRAKES on 09/09/2007 23:29:49
Originally by: General Windypops
Did you post your hard proof of Bob posting offensive, illegal content in another thread?
No, why would I post something that doesn't exist or that I never claimed to have?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:31:00 -
[146]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Please, no need to throw insults back at someone. I have several characters, all in goonfleet. I post on this one because I like the name.
Sorry posted with my alt then...he is a bit tempestuous
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:45:00 -
[147]
Goonswarm member making baseless accusations, and unable to provide proof: Check  Proof of Goonswarm abusing wider community: Check  Goonswarm member frantically backtracking from their original argument: Check  Goonswarm member proven to be using multiple alts to post in same thread: Check  Goonswarm member ultimately losing debate: Check 
Thanks for your valuable posts, No Brakes, you're a real asset to your alliance.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:46:00 -
[148]
Originally by: General Windypops Goonswarm member making baseless accusations, and unable to provide proof: Check 
Please copy and paste the accusation I have made?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:56:00 -
[149]
Originally by: General Windypops
Thanks for your valuable posts, No Brakes, you're a real asset to your alliance.
I shall further reinforce your belief that I am a goon main/alt, by saying
much like your posting 
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:56:00 -
[150]
stop reading when a bobby complained about goons circlejerking
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