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Razen21	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Razen21 on 16/09/2007 20:51:01 500m of zydrine lost....What is the point of having hi security areas where players can sucicide gank you? Victim: Razen21 Alliance: Elemental Fusion Corp: Black Thorne Corporation Destroyed: Bestower System: Kusomonmon Security: 0.8 Involved parties: Name: Evil M (laid the final blow) Security: -0.4 Alliance: Cult of War Corp: Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Ship: Hurricane Weapon: 425mm AutoCannon I Destroyed items: Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II i spent most of the week getting that 500m worth of zydrine :( if it had gotten destroyed at least i'd have the satisfaction. This is very...frustrating.
Tzt	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:52:00 - [2] eggs/basket. you'll never carry all your stuffs again in a ship that can be suicided by just one other ship yeah :)
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:52:00 - [3] Don't undock. Problem solved. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Darth Pheonix	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:52:00 - [4] Maybe you shouldn't carry around 500mil worth of stuff in your cargohold and you won't get ganked.
JimboSnowstorm	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:55:00 - [5] I was havin discussing wit people about this earlier, I guess it seems like a valid tactic. And teaches us all to be more careful. Certainly annoying though
KeyserSoze	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:58:00 - [6] the actual problem is with ccp, if they tell you ships can get ganked easily in high sec then people wouldnt complain as much. or infact tell all new members that the user guide is OLD and the forum is the real guide to actually know what to do in the game
Razen21	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:59:00 - [7] Edited by: Razen21 on 16/09/2007 21:00:59 I understand that this is a expensive lesson learned, annoying no doubt but its crazy that players can get away with this in hi sec space where players should be able to carry goods with peace of mind
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:59:00 - [8] Edited by: Admiral Pelleon on 16/09/2007 20:59:59 High security does not mean total security. Don't blame CCP because you don't understand the difference. ________ [-WSI-]
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Shevar on 16/09/2007 21:01:25 Don't move 500 million isk in a single bestower run? Originally by: Razen21 I understand that this is a expensive lesson learned, annoying no doubt but its crazy that players can get away with this in hi sec space where players should be able to carry goods with peace of mind No they shouldn't... Concord doesn't prevent pewpew it just responds to it. Working as intended. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:02:00 - [10] Edited by: Paulo Damarr on 16/09/2007 21:02:15 There are no defensive modules in the destroyed items list, Hauler + Valuable cargo + no tank = Asking for it. I do sympathise for your loss but while its not totally your own fault you certainly didn't take any measures towards helping yourself, Fit some defenses next time and you might survive long enough for concord to do their thing.
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Paulo Damarr Edited by: Paulo Damarr on 16/09/2007 21:02:15 There are no defensive modules in the destroyed items list, Hauler + Valuable cargo + no tank = Asking for it. I do sympathise for your loss but while its not totally your own fault you certainly didn't take any measures towards helping yourself, Fit some defenses next time and you might survive long enough for concord to do their thing. Exactly, I learned my lesson moving 3 research labs in a badger mkII. Thankfully I had a T2 tank and lasted until concord could pop them. ________ [-WSI-]
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:05:00 - [12] High sec areas are not safe, just safer. - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Mysterious Stranger Caldari Enclave Services	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:06:00 - [13] Edited by: Mysterious Stranger on 16/09/2007 21:07:47 Originally by: Razen21 Edited by: Razen21 on 16/09/2007 20:51:01 500m of zydrine lost....What is the point of having hi security areas where players can sucicide gank you? To be honest, my opinion is penalties that are currently in place for suicide ganking are strong enough as it is. How much did you pay for that Bestower? Have you considered using a more secure ship? Using an escort? Splitting up your cargo? These are all choices you already decided on when you undocked with your cargo filled with Zydrine. PVP exists everywhere in Eve and those that attacked you were still attacked by CONCORD. They simply realized the risk for reward was there and chose to attack. Just because you were in hi-sec does not mean that crime does not exist. It's a harsh lesson to learn but in the end you just need to chalk it up as experience and move on. (Remember you can always load up on guns and get even ) Originally by: Sharkbait please for the love of god read the dam stickies
Lacco	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:07:00 - [14] i liked the lootz.. oh man.. bring some more plz
Razen21	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:09:00 - [15] Edited by: Razen21 on 16/09/2007 21:14:52 i paid 10m for the bestower, well i was under the impression, like most new players that hi sec areas are safe. probably know better now. -ps lacco, enjoy it you dirty pirate
Lord Matrix Department of War	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:22:00 - [16] Transport ships (T2 haulers) are good against suicide ganks. One more thing, how did you get 500m of Zydrine in less than a month of your play time? ------------------------------------------------------------------ What good have you done for the EVE community today?
Razen21	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:27:00 - [17] Edited by: Razen21 on 16/09/2007 21:28:28 Worked hard hauling stuff around to get some capital, when i did i played the market. i actually made most of that 500m today, had the day off and been trading all day.
DJ P	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Razen21 Edited by: Razen21 on 16/09/2007 21:14:52 i paid 10m for the bestower, well i was under the impression, 10m?? lol As other people saying above. Nothing changed in EVE since late 2003 where CCP put Concord & sentries :D Before than low sec/0.0 and high sec had the same chaotic zone :D So what you do?? Don't haul all your cargo in one go, don't travel AFK, put tank on your industrial and stay away from Jita.
Xcom Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:30:00 - [19] He probebly had 500M isk worth of zide. Just a quick question. How well does a occator do against suiciders?
Svavz Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:31:00 - [20] Best quote I ever heard; Concord offers PUNISHMENT, not protection.
Razen21	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:31:00 - [21] Yes, I've learned that now. Someday it'll be pay back
Flaming Lemming Caldari Puppeteer Press	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Razen21 Yes, I've learned that now. Someday it'll be pay back At least you have the right attitude..to many people just say "Give me back my stuff or I quit...crycrycry" "Lesson learned" and "Payback"...great way to look at it! No such thing as bad press!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:37:00 - [23] Somebody didn't read the "EVE golden rules"... Originally by: Razen21 Suicide ganks need to be dealt with.... NO, THEY DON'T ! If CCP would have wanted that, they would have made shooting players in highsec impossible. Originally by: Razen21 500m of zydrine lost.... What is the point of having hi security areas where players can sucicide gank you? Reapeat after me... Concord is there as a deterrent, not as a protector. Highsec is SAFER, not safe. Now repeat that 1000 times and you'll start "getting" it. _ [CNVTF] is recruiting \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Evil M Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:41:00 - [24] :(((
tyrol E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:42:00 - [25] not that its relevant, but you know the market well enough to make 500mil in one day, then pay 10mil for a bestower? oh and er, down with the bad guys and such
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:44:00 - [26] Go space pervs Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:45:00 - [27] "Corp: Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United" clap clap Way to go My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Laura Steel Minmatar Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:46:00 - [28] Originally by: tyrol not that its relevant, but you know the market well enough to make 500mil in one day, then pay 10mil for a bestower? oh and er, down with the bad guys and such It was one of those special Golden Bestowers! And at least you have the right attitute :) ----
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:47:00 - [29] Don't afk haul. Warp to zero is your friend. Originally by: Big Al Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
Razen21	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:48:00 - [30] Hey! I would really LOVE to fly any other ship than this slow golden banana. But I'm still a new player, and I am just finishing up with the advanced learning skills so I cant fly anything else than a bestower.

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