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Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:49:00 - [61] Edited by: Darcuese on 19/09/2007 11:53:50 And one more thing, while im here...... If, in some weird scenario, CCP would disable possibility of "log in traps" in a way (for example) to disable login ships (capitals) to spawn instantly where is needed (or prevent entering siege for 15 min lets say), Im sure there would be lot more situations with less capitals attacking POS'es.....if numbers of capitals bug you One of reasons of such numbers is to prevent such situations (one side spending their time IN GAME planning and attacking POS knowing there is a chance other side might have something to log in if numbers of attacking capitals seem as juicy target). So, basicly, its might be reflection of some other things from the past me, myself and I ------>
stephane devaulx Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:57:00 - [62] Originally by: corporal hicks The arms race is on. BOB and allies can field more capships than anyone else and they use them, to not use them would be a waste, whats the point in having them if your not using them, lag issues are CCp's problem, last time i checked CCP introduced the cap ships and wanted them to be used. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out everyone that can afford them will buy them and then we will have massive ammounts of cap ships. This whole issue popped up 4 years ago also when everyone had battleships and then it was drone lag from normal drones, now its fighter lag from carriers. Its all the players Fault tbh, if a gang of 20 is camping your system why bring 50? all that happens is next time the gang of 20 brings 80 and so on until critical mass is attained and the server lags out and then its all cry on forums for nerfs. Unfortunatly with CCP's changes to the way pos work and the fact you can spam systems with pos it makes territory wars so long and drawn out with so much firepower been needed to take down all these pos that alliances have no options but to bring as much to bear as possible, so out comes the uber cap ship fleet and down go all the pos, week later repeat in next system and so on and so on. also the cyno jammer module really does not help in keeping numbers low in systems as the thing has a stupid ammount of structure and has to be taken down by conventional fleets. just my 2 cents fake
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:59:00 - [63] hey i wasnt saying your cap fleet was too big, i was just saying iac cant match it Originally by: Captian Internet Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
Silvestri Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:01:00 - [64] Originally by: Artean Edited by: Artean on 19/09/2007 07:21:51 Originally by: Karim alRashid Edited by: Karim alRashid on 19/09/2007 06:56:21 Originally by: DeadProphet We only had 19 dreads Welcome to excuses online! They only had 19 dreads. Dunno, my screen was not big enough to count (look at the scrollbars). Oh well, everyone tries to find his way to win, BoB/MC choose to win through superior tactics and skill Seriously... Is this EVE fleet engagements nowadays? Have cap ship gone cookie cutter? Damn, this game has gone down hill. I agree. Makes the game bleh. I truly dont' care who wins the war now. I think it's *** personally. I log in just to train skills. I left IAC for a while just to do some actual small fleet combat for a while. I'm not a fan of 200 vs. 200 and node's crashing and the fact that those who have the higher SP you can never catch up. The game has gone redonkuluous.....this is nothing from IAC...just myself. Eve 4TL... The forums area actually funner then in game....lol.
corporal hicks Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:04:00 - [65] Originally by: stephane devaulx Originally by: corporal hicks The arms race is on. BOB and allies can field more capships than anyone else and they use them, to not use them would be a waste, whats the point in having them if your not using them, lag issues are CCp's problem, last time i checked CCP introduced the cap ships and wanted them to be used. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out everyone that can afford them will buy them and then we will have massive ammounts of cap ships. This whole issue popped up 4 years ago also when everyone had battleships and then it was drone lag from normal drones, now its fighter lag from carriers. Its all the players Fault tbh, if a gang of 20 is camping your system why bring 50? all that happens is next time the gang of 20 brings 80 and so on until critical mass is attained and the server lags out and then its all cry on forums for nerfs. Unfortunatly with CCP's changes to the way pos work and the fact you can spam systems with pos it makes territory wars so long and drawn out with so much firepower been needed to take down all these pos that alliances have no options but to bring as much to bear as possible, so out comes the uber cap ship fleet and down go all the pos, week later repeat in next system and so on and so on. also the cyno jammer module really does not help in keeping numbers low in systems as the thing has a stupid ammount of structure and has to be taken down by conventional fleets. just my 2 cents fake Then ehh whats the problem? if others can field same or more cap ships then problem solved no need for whinefest as regards cap ships. Cheers. " Stay Frosty "
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:34:00 - [66] Originally by: Seleene STOP YOUR WHINING. Enough is enough. NO, YOU STOP WHINING. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. You stop whining ang crying against anyone, who expresses even a minor dislike of Capships Online (TM). Nobody said you did anything wrong by dropping the capblob on FAT yesterday. Repeat if you're too dumb to understand. Nobody said you did anything wrong by dropping the capblob on FAT yesterday. People expressed their disgust that the 0.0 POS warfare is won by whoever can buy more capitals. People expressed their disgust that 0.0 POS warfare has made everything other than capitals irrelevant. NOW GET IT ? And think twice before menioning the cyno jammer.
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:38:00 - [67] Edited by: Karim alRashid on 19/09/2007 12:38:56
Barthezz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:04:00 - [68] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 19/09/2007 11:01:07 STOP YOUR WHINING. Enough is enough. /me hugs Seleene I think your completely right. (omg an IAC agreeing with an mc ! hax ! ) With that said: Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 19/09/2007 11:01:07 If you don't have the tools to defend yourselves it's because you either lack the knowledge to use them properly or the will to risk losing them. Fortunately, we lack neither. Our toys don't stay in the box, we bring them out to play. I dont think IAC lacks the knowledge about using our toys, but I do think (myself included) we dont have the will to lose them (in my case my Nyx) in an environment so lagged out that I have to pray to the heavens for my hardeners to activate, let alone actually kill someone. If your then up against a ruthless enemy like McBob, who doesnt have that fear (most likely due to experience in such laggy environments). Your in trouble. --- Dev's give us a lag-update!
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:37:00 - [69] Edited by: Astasia Orian on 19/09/2007 13:37:35 Quote: People expressed their disgust that the 0.0 POS warfare is won by whoever can buy more capitals. Whine. ASCN had like 200 carriers. D2 and the northern monkeys had a huge pile of dreads at their peak. We didn't get pushed out of 9-9 and 66- by capitals, it was mainly by Battlecruisers. Your ability to motivate your alliance members, manage logistics/ship replacement and, most importantly, have your allies turn up is what is lacking. There's no point stronting to Russian time if your Russian doesn't come rep the tower. The coalition is in a very strong overall position right now, quit whinging and and do something constructive (by which I mean destructive, to us) in game.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:40:00 - [70] Originally by: Seleene How could this happen to me I've made my mistakes got nowhere to run The night goes on as IÆm fading away I'm sick of this life I just wanna scream How could this happen to me ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul

AmarrSecSlave Minmatar ILIKEITBIG	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:41:00 - [71] Was it not IAC and -A- who continued to say bring it and bring your capitals to the fight the entire time before the attack actually started. I am sure I could find this quote more than 2 times if I bothered to look. I guess you should watch what you wish for.
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:06:00 - [72] Originally by: Astasia Orian Edited by: Astasia Orian on 19/09/2007 13:37:35 Quote: People expressed their disgust that the 0.0 POS warfare is won by whoever can buy more capitals. Whine. Again. Your attempt to label every statement you don't like as "whining" is nothing more than lame trolling.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:11:00 - [73] Originally by: Astasia Orian There's no point stronting to Russian time if your Russian doesn't come rep the tower. that's a pretty big cake, really ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:14:00 - [74] Originally by: Karim alRashid Originally by: Astasia Orian Edited by: Astasia Orian on 19/09/2007 13:37:35 Quote: People expressed their disgust that the 0.0 POS warfare is won by whoever can buy more capitals. Whine. Again. Your attempt to label every statement you don't like as "whining" is nothing more than lame trolling. did you read more than the first word of his reply?
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:33:00 - [75] Edited by: Karim alRashid on 19/09/2007 14:34:51 Originally by: DeadProphet Originally by: Karim alRashid Originally by: Astasia Orian Edited by: Astasia Orian on 19/09/2007 13:37:35 Quote: People expressed their disgust that the 0.0 POS warfare is won by whoever can buy more capitals. Whine. Again. Your attempt to label every statement you don't like as "whining" is nothing more than lame trolling. did you read more than the first word of his reply? Yes. Why? I have no objection to other parts. He's entirely entitled to his opinion, no matter right or wrong. What is your point?
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:36:00 - [76] Lag and tactics can be argued until everybody's blue in the face, and you'll never come to any real resolution. Seleene's main point about alliance willpower, however, can't be debated. In the end, it's willpower that wins wars. From that willpower, logistics are improved and better tactics are developed in the face of adversity. From that willpower, alliances stay together, buy themselves time to develop a real plan, and stick to the fight. When that willpower collapses, that's when things go south. Goonswarm proved they had the willpower to survive BoB's initial onslaught and get where they are now, what, over a year later? MC proved they had the willpower to take some wicked hits in the North and perservere and succeed in their campaign. These two organizations couldn't be more opposite, but they both have willpower in spades and have demonstrated its virtues. IAC can survive and even win this war. They have the allies, they have the numbers. What remains to be seen is if they have the will.
Angor The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:48:00 - [77] Reading 3 pages and i still have no real clue as to what is really going on in FAT? Lots of complaints about cap blobs but not really much else. Someone give us a round about update on the status of the system? Are IAC loosing towers fast? Have AAA left IAC to die alone? Has the beer ran out yet? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:57:00 - [78] Originally by: Angor Reading 3 pages and i still have no real clue as to what is really going on in FAT? Lots of complaints about cap blobs but not really much else. Someone give us a round about update on the status of the system? Are IAC loosing towers fast? Have AAA left IAC to die alone? Has the beer ran out yet? BOB/MS/FIX have reinforced a few towers but not yet enough to witch sov even when they get destroyed. A few skirmishes ensued yesterday but nothing really big as we cannot effectively counter their cap blob. Originally by: Captian Internet Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
laotse Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:04:00 - [79] Originally by: Garreck Lag and tactics can be argued until everybody's blue in the face, and you'll never come to any real resolution. Seleene's main point about alliance willpower, however, can't be debated. In the end, it's willpower that wins wars. From that willpower, logistics are improved and better tactics are developed in the face of adversity. From that willpower, alliances stay together, buy themselves time to develop a real plan, and stick to the fight. When that willpower collapses, that's when things go south. Goonswarm proved they had the willpower to survive BoB's initial onslaught and get where they are now, what, over a year later? MC proved they had the willpower to take some wicked hits in the North and perservere and succeed in their campaign. These two organizations couldn't be more opposite, but they both have willpower in spades and have demonstrated its virtues. IAC can survive and even win this war. They have the allies, they have the numbers. What remains to be seen is if they have the will. only thing mc let us see is that they cant handle any thing alone http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:15:00 - [80] Originally by: Sokratesz BOB/M$/FIX Fixed it for you. Oh, wai...

Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:25:00 - [81] Originally by: Karim alRashid Originally by: Sokratesz BOB/M$/FIX Fixed it for you. Oh, wai... Theyre mercenaries,...or wait? Originally by: Captian Internet Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:27:00 - [82] Edited by: Pilk on 19/09/2007 15:34:31 On "Capital Ships Online": Each time a new, bigger ship class is created (or comes into wide use), there are cries of "(x) Online!" First it was cruisers, then battleships, then capitals. Each of them started off as unique, unusual, exciting ships, like Titans at the moment. The idea of a fleet (30+) of Titans is quite literally game-breaking; with 30 Titans, you'd evaporate an armor-tanked dreadnought fleet. Then, they were put forth as oddities, equipped to handle special, unusual situations, and the idea of a fleet of them was laughed off as ridiculous. We're still, to some degree, at that point with supercapitals--the idea of a mothership fleet (30+) is still frankly terrifying, but we can see it coming down the road. Lastly, they became commonplace fleet tools, and the FC's adjusted to their presence, both friendly and enemy, on both sides of the battle. That is where the major 0.0 alliances are now with dreadnoughts and carriers. Eve Online will always be (Biggest-commonly-used-ship) Online to those who don't have the werewithal to spend the time to learn how to fly that ship class (I'm talking player skills, not SP), acquire the isk to purchase one, and develop the strategies for deploying them as an FC. I'm happy that you spent a month training Large Artillery Specialization V and are unwilling to fly anything but a Tempest. But your Tempest is like an Interceptor or a Recon Ship now--something that I want in any fleet, but I'm not relying on you to be the core of my fleet. For better or for worse, right now, that's the capitals' job. The Payoff for Reading All That: Here's a little capital-ship ** for ya. These are from our assault on 25S, next door to FAT. --P (edited for bigger pictures) Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:27:00 - [83] BoB have 2 towers in system, MC have 1, IAC has lost 1 tower and a bunch more are in reinforced, they reinforced the jump bridge POS, station services have all been destroyed and we've been without a cyno jammer for a while. That said, there hasn't really been much action so far so nothin to talk about really. http://eve.klaki.net/
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:32:00 - [84] Originally by: Garreck Lag and tactics can be argued until everybody's blue in the face, and you'll never come to any real resolution. Seleene's main point about alliance willpower, however, can't be debated. In the end, it's willpower that wins wars. From that willpower, logistics are improved and better tactics are developed in the face of adversity. From that willpower, alliances stay together, buy themselves time to develop a real plan, and stick to the fight. When that willpower collapses, that's when things go south. Goonswarm proved they had the willpower to survive BoB's initial onslaught and get where they are now, what, over a year later? MC proved they had the willpower to take some wicked hits in the North and perservere and succeed in their campaign. These two organizations couldn't be more opposite, but they both have willpower in spades and have demonstrated its virtues. IAC can survive and even win this war. They have the allies, they have the numbers. What remains to be seen is if they have the will. Pretty clear to me after the miserable failures that were Prohibition I & II that IAC has willpower and stamina in spades. Maybe if we ran out of alcohol we'd be beatable, until then we can be knocked down, but not kept down. http://eve.klaki.net/
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:32:00 - [85] Originally by: Karim alRashid Originally by: Seleene STOP YOUR WHINING. Enough is enough. NO, YOU STOP WHINING. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. You stop whining ang crying against anyone, who expresses even a minor dislike of Capships Online (TM). Nobody said you did anything wrong by dropping the capblob on FAT yesterday. Repeat if you're too dumb to understand. Nobody said you did anything wrong by dropping the capblob on FAT yesterday. People expressed their disgust that the 0.0 POS warfare is won by whoever can buy more capitals. People expressed their disgust that 0.0 POS warfare has made everything other than capitals irrelevant. NOW GET IT ? And think twice before menioning the cyno jammer. How about you come out from that little rock you are hiding about to take pictures and come fight instead of yanking ur yapper? I find it most amusing that most of big mouths like you are nearly non existant in the field , except ofc from local smacking and foaming their mouths at the forum .
Veng3ance New Dawn Rising The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:39:00 - [86] Lets not forget the INSANE Coalition super blob in F-T that one time. Or did everyone forget about that too?
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:43:00 - [87] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Pretty clear to me after the miserable failures that were Prohibition I & II that IAC has willpower and stamina in spades. Very true...and very comforting It certainly wasn't my intention to overlook IAC's previous successes. If you can keep your pilots' spirit up and keep 'em focused, then this is just getting started
Silvestri Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:58:00 - [88] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Karim alRashid Originally by: Seleene STOP YOUR WHINING. Enough is enough. NO, YOU STOP WHINING. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. You stop whining ang crying against anyone, who expresses even a minor dislike of Capships Online (TM). Nobody said you did anything wrong by dropping the capblob on FAT yesterday. Repeat if you're too dumb to understand. Nobody said you did anything wrong by dropping the capblob on FAT yesterday. People expressed their disgust that the 0.0 POS warfare is won by whoever can buy more capitals. People expressed their disgust that 0.0 POS warfare has made everything other than capitals irrelevant. NOW GET IT ? And think twice before menioning the cyno jammer. How about you come out from that little rock you are hiding about to take pictures and come fight instead of yanking ur yapper? I find it most amusing that most of big mouths like you are nearly non existant in the field , except ofc from local smacking and foaming their mouths at the forum . I enjoy smacking....get over it. I like the forums...there is no lag....
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 16:13:00 - [89] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel How about you come out from that little rock you are hiding about to take pictures and come fight instead of yanking ur yapper?
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.19 16:27:00 - [90] Originally by: corporal hicks Then ehh whats the problem? if others can field same or more cap ships then problem solved no need for whinefest as regards cap ships. Cheers. You've never actually hit a jump que using a cyno have you.



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