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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.02.17 20:27:00 -
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There are only two things certain in life....
Death & Taxes
one occurs regurly and the other doesnt work.
/emote curses USA for trying to strengthen its exports by weakening the dollar
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

Zak Kingsman
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Posted - 2004.02.17 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Zak Kingsman on 17/02/2004 20:30:02 nope, increasing subscription rates cause of a weakened dollar doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the fact that when the dollar recovers(or the kronar drops) I don't expect to see them LOWER the cost to reflect that.
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2004.02.17 20:31:00 -
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Quote: I can't see how they can increase the price after less than 1 year... Considering how this game is one dissappointment after another. I'll definitely not renew now...
7 days left for me, but who cares, I stopped playing a month ago...
Dude my character hasn't left a station in six months. I log in to start some training then forget about it for two days. There does seem to be some new interesting stuff coming out, though, so maybe I'll get serious about it again.
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Ubix
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Posted - 2004.02.17 20:33:00 -
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The increase is nothing .. I broke wind this morning and more dollars flew out my behind than they plan to raise the charge by.
UBIX
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.02.17 20:36:00 -
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The weak USA Dollar is good for the USA. We buy cheaper for our imports. Its ok to make me change to 6 month I would take a two year subscription. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.02.17 20:43:00 -
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Quote: nope, increasing subscription rates cause of a weakened dollar doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the fact that when the dollar recovers(or the kronar drops) I don't expect to see them LOWER the cost to reflect that.
The dollar shouldn't 'recover'. It was already hyper-inflated, due to a series of wierd uses for it. As long as the Euro stays as a viable stabilization force for non-G7 countries, the dollar should stay down. It also depends a lot on what the Chinese do in the near-term future.
The point is, the majority of their upkeep costs is bandwidth and hardware, which is already at a remote/non-icelandic location. If they feel the US dollar is on a downward spiral, the intelligent decission would have been to move their cluster to the US, or even better Canada (given the canadian dollars interdependence with the US dollar's price) which both have A1 internet access and cheap hosting facilities. Not to keep it in Europe, where the Kronas is staying somewhat stable over the past 120 days against the Euro.
-- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |

Jolinar Niobe
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Posted - 2004.02.17 21:36:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova
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HRose
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Posted - 2004.02.17 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: HRose on 17/02/2004 22:43:12 Considering cancelling. I don't play much and I'm subscribed to both DAoC and FFXI. In June WoW too.
Sorry, the price is too high for the value. For DAoC I pay 13$ which are less than 13 euros. I think about 11 euros. For FFXI a similar price.
For Eve I'll play 15 euros. 4 euros more than DAoC. In DAoC there's a huge team of peoples working constantly, the game improves. There are a tons of upgrades and in two years the game has grown at a pace never seen in mmorpgs.
In Eve development is painfully slow. I see the same bugs from beta. Additions land after many many months of development.
I don't blame Eve's devs, but 15 euros for a weak game aren't on par with 11 euros I pay for DAoC quality service. Considering I spend in DAoC 10 times the time I spend in Eve.
And I'm not discussing the games themselves, just devs' work and costs.
HRose - I'm Italian so sorry for mistakes and bad english - - All that i say is *always* imho - Writing for www.mmorpg.it |

Elizar
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Posted - 2004.02.17 23:25:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova http://webpages.charter.net/atwtnick/sig.jpg |

Elizar
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Posted - 2004.02.17 23:30:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova http://webpages.charter.net/atwtnick/sig.jpg |

WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2004.02.17 23:43:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova
"Trust No One" |

Lola
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Posted - 2004.02.17 23:57:00 -
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Anything that makes whitedwarf leave has to be a good thing. ----------------------------------------- Sig rented by Drethen Nerevitas. |

Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.02.18 00:13:00 -
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Quote: Anything that makes whitedwarf leave has to be a good thing.
My thoughts exactly
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Wyrminaard
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Posted - 2004.02.18 00:14:00 -
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I¦ve seen some rather poorly thought out comments in this thread. To put things into perspective you have to consider that when the devs were working to make the game the US dollar went up to 110isk, you could get 110 icelandic kroner for one US dollar. At the moment the rate is 67isk for every USD.
Now I think that the dollar was at around 100isk a year ago, that would mean that it¦s gone down 37% since the game went live. The price increase for the game was from 12,95$ to 14,95 which is a hike of about 15%. So as you can see they aren¦t even increasing the price of the game by as much as they have lost due to the currency.
Someone mentioned moving the servers from London to the US but the cost of such a move and the downtime it would bring with it would increase the cost massivly, not to mention putting the servers into a differnt time zone then the dev team.
The devs them selves as well as the support staff for the game are all paid in icelandic kroner, there is no way to go around that and these are the people that will improve the game and bring about new and interresting things. If they cant afford to pay them then the game will go out of business fast.
The reason they charge USD in the first place is because it¦s the business standard for MMOGS and it makes it easy for people to compare the different games.
I think CCP is very much in the right making these increases, sure they are a pain but I¦d rather the game lived then go the way of the dodo. |

WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2004.02.18 00:38:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova
"Trust No One" |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 00:45:00 -
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Nobody is forcing you to pay the increased price.
Either pay or leave.
I don't care either way 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.02.18 00:53:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.02.18 02:54:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova
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Azamien
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Posted - 2004.02.18 03:42:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova |

Drunvalo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 03:49:00 -
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Keep away from RL politics on theese boards please.
-Jehova
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.02.18 04:10:00 -
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obviously the last two comments are made by the carebears in EVE who fly a battleship with gunny lvl 2 and us there Apoc with alpha hull mods as a bestower
If you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all. Your the people who want something for nothing. Bah, get a life. Clinton stole my ferrari, bush gave it back :)
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella  |

Xel Naga
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Posted - 2004.02.18 04:41:00 -
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Quote: I can't see how they can increase the price after less than 1 year... Considering how this game is one dissappointment after another. I'll definitely not renew now...
7 days left for me, but who cares, I stopped playing a month ago...
can i have your stuff?
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Ishkur
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Posted - 2004.02.18 04:45:00 -
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LOL... Well political discussion aside, they could have been charging the equivalent of $12.95 in kronas ? (sorry, I'm an American and completely ignorant of other people's cultures and economic systems) and our banks could adjust it based on the currency rates every time we paid our subscriptions.
Which would mean we'd be paying much more than 12.95 for the game.
:)
Anyway, carry on.
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Xel Naga
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Posted - 2004.02.18 04:46:00 -
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Quote: "Anything that makes whitedwarf leave has to be a good thing"
A suck ass DEV team and a$$holes like you, yeah, that will make me leave this game once and for all.
Played this game for a long time, I was never truly satisfied, game never lived up to it's billing.
I don't care what excuses they come up with for the price increase, based on CCP's performance, they do not deserve any more of my money.
time time to read the message moron, they aren't getting anymore more money. its extra tax they are being charged for, so the addition to peoples monthly fee's does straight out of their hands.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.02.18 04:54:00 -
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Stupid Europeans and thier Euros
Stupid American Economy WORK DAMN YOU WORK!!!!!! -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.02.18 05:12:00 -
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Quote: As for the Euro players paying more, U.S. citizens get their cash stripped out with income tax before we get around to VAT, so it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
This is the case in some European countries as well, e.g. Germany. So right now it would make sense for me to have a Credit Card account in U.S. Dollar currency, since the Euro is stronger.
I see a lot of 2nd/3rd accounts on eBay soon. -- Stories: #1 --
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 05:25:00 -
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Quote: Stupid Europeans and thier Euros
Stupid American Economy WORK DAMN YOU WORK!!!!!!
The economy would work if they would stop giving all of our jobs to people in India, who work for far less since their currency is much weaker than the US dollar.
Outsourcing is ruining the economy in this country and increasing unemployment, the only people getting richer, are the corporations. ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.02.18 05:29:00 -
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Bleh...I didnt even mean for that statement to go around.
*blinks* damn I almost gave my nationality away. Whats next who and what I am!! Noo Sir ree!
POLARIUS!! Kill this thread!!! Real Life is seeping in!! Protect me!! -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 05:31:00 -
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Quote: Bleh...I didnt even mean for that statement to go around.
*blinks* damn I almost gave my nationality away. Whats next who and what I am!! Noo Sir ree!
POLARIUS!! Kill this thread!!! Real Life is seeping in!! Protect me!!
well it's the truth. =/ ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.02.18 05:43:00 -
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It doesnt matter what the numbers are really, its what its really worth in gold. 10Euros = $14 or whatever, but you can buy 14 candybars with either ammounts. ----------------------------------- about:blank |
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