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Andromeda Lee	Posted - 2007.09.30 09:53:00 - [1] Im tired of hearing people complain about amarr there great, and its clear people just liek to complain for no reason. Let look at the facts we will compare amarr and gallente as they are the closest and people say gallente is probably the best at pvp. amarr 2 damage types EM/Therm Gallente 2 damage types kin/therm so both have only 2 damage types , and the biggest thing here no one seems to talk about is that in pvp anyone with any decent fitting will have SOLID RESISTANCES ACROSS THE BOARD, so damage type rarely matters. some things that are great about amarr. better tanks then gallente better range then gallente. better tracking then gallente less cap usage on most ships then gallente. and on top of that they have very reasonable damage and good rate of fire. Yes gallente does more damage but it alot of other drawbacks. Basically every race has +++ and --- No matter what you fly some one else will always have something better then you, and you can never plan for all scenarios. so quit complaining about ships there all great.
MindBender Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.30 09:57:00 - [2] Originally by: Andromeda Lee so quit complaining about ships there all teh suck. Corrected
Lord Pelivar	Posted - 2007.09.30 09:59:00 - [3] Originally by: MindBender Originally by: Andromeda Lee so quit complaining about ships there all teh suck. Corrected all great or all the suck hardly matters what matters is its good the way it is oh accept the hyperion it needs more cpu :)
Some Caldari Caldari Shadow Warrioz	Posted - 2007.09.30 09:59:00 - [4] Gallente are overpowered! The Velator gets 5m3 of drone bay more then the other ships. Nerf it now! ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
jam6549 Cold Blooded Killers	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Andromeda Lee amarr 2 damage types EM/Therm Gallente 2 damage types kin/therm Erm, Gallente are drone based, and from what I recall, drones do any type of damage.
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:01:00 - [6] Nerf NerfÖ! I shot myself in the eye, and now I have to wear a pirate patch. While I had to for religious reasons before, now it's just annoying! Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips IT WAS ME, MUHAHAHA. -Hango How did I miss free BREE!!? -Kaemonn always fashionably late - Deckard Better late than never! -Sahwoolo
MindBender Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Lord Pelivar Originally by: MindBender Originally by: Andromeda Lee so quit complaining about ships there all teh suck. Corrected all great or all the suck hardly matters what matters is its good the way it is oh accept the hyperion it needs more cpu :) Hey, my pulse lasers got better tracking speed... Hmmm, I don't really use those though... Meh, oh well. Go Amarr! /me hides Caldari heritage.
Andromeda Lee	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:03:00 - [8] Originally by: jam6549 Originally by: Andromeda Lee amarr 2 damage types EM/Therm Gallente 2 damage types kin/therm Erm, Gallente are drone based, and from what I recall, drones do any type of damage. amarr ships can use drones to, the point is damage types really dont matter.
Some Caldari Caldari Shadow Warrioz	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:03:00 - [9] Edited by: Some Caldari on 30/09/2007 10:03:33 Originally by: Karanth Nerf NerfÖ! I shot myself in the eye, and now I have to wear a pirate patch. While I had to for religious reasons before, now it's just annoying! What!? Eye patches are awesome, quit complaining in fact wear another one on the other eye and get twice as much awesome! (Well not really, theres that stacking nerf after all.) ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:06:00 - [10] I'm more mad at the medical reason. The religious one was just fine. Religion is because I want to, medical is because the doctor says I should. Hmm, I should see if his degree was signed... Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips IT WAS ME, MUHAHAHA. -Hango How did I miss free BREE!!? -Kaemonn always fashionably late - Deckard Better late than never! -Sahwoolo
Some Caldari Caldari Shadow Warrioz	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:13:00 - [11] What religion needs eye patches again? The pastafarians isn't it? ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:15:00 - [12] YARR! Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips IT WAS ME, MUHAHAHA. -Hango How did I miss free BREE!!? -Kaemonn always fashionably late - Deckard Better late than never! -Sahwoolo
goodby4u Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Andromeda Lee Im tired of hearing people complain about amarr there great, and its clear people just liek to complain for no reason. Let look at the facts we will compare amarr and gallente as they are the closest and people say gallente is probably the best at pvp. amarr 2 damage types EM/Therm Gallente 2 damage types kin/therm so both have only 2 damage types , and the biggest thing here no one seems to talk about is that in pvp anyone with any decent fitting will have SOLID RESISTANCES ACROSS THE BOARD, so damage type rarely matters. some things that are great about amarr. better tanks then gallente better range then gallente. better tracking then gallente less cap usage on most ships then gallente. and on top of that they have very reasonable damage and good rate of fire. Yes gallente does more damage but it alot of other drawbacks. Basically every race has +++ and --- No matter what you fly some one else will always have something better then you, and you can never plan for all scenarios. so quit complaining about ships there all great. First off,most people(in battleships)do have solid restists,that being given they usually use eanms and armor tanks to achieve that...therefore em is weakest. Better tanks?Not really,t2 vs t2 is close to the same...Bs wise the domi has one of the strongest. Better range?Maybe,but i dont snipe. Tracking?Kinda,with pulses yeah but beams...Its a tradeoff i guess,due to the mega getting a tracking bonus(dont say thats just 1 ship bonus,most amarr snipers have only 1 bonus anyways). NO,more cap/sec usage,once you get the shiptype to 5 its close but gellente still uses less. Ok dps etc?Yeah they do... That is true somebody will always have something better,but amarr DO have a problem because alot of their ships are unfliable in 95% of situations. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
DerArt1st	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:09:00 - [14] Edited by: DerArt1st on 30/09/2007 11:11:30 Originally by: Andromeda Lee amarr 2 damage types EM/Therm Gallente 2 damage types kin/therm Wrong first time. Gallente always have drones and they can do any damage. Amarr often dont have drones -> Maller / Zealot or just a small dronebay to defend against frigate/cruiser sized ships -> Omen, Sacrilege, Apocalypse. Quote: so both have only 2 damage types , and the biggest thing here no one seems to talk about is that in pvp anyone with any decent fitting will have SOLID RESISTANCES ACROSS THE BOARD, so damage type rarely matters. Wrong the second time. Damage controls + EAN II is very common giving more resistance to EM than to any other resistance. Quote: less cap usage on most ships then gallente. Wrong third time. Even with the shipskill to 5 amarrships are using more cap just to fire their weapons. Quote: and on top of that they have very reasonable damage and good rate of fire. Gallente got more Damage with better rate of fire.
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:13:00 - [15] throws in some 'omg boost caldari' to feed the flames NERF AMARR, GALLENTE AND MINMATAR, BOOST CALDARI!!! CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:15:00 - [16] Nerf missiles and guns and even smartbombs would be fun! At least then we wouldn't "accidentally" explode someones ship due to desync... Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips IT WAS ME, MUHAHAHA. -Hango How did I miss free BREE!!? -Kaemonn always fashionably late - Deckard Better late than never! -Sahwoolo
Aerandir Telrunya Gallente Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:17:00 - [17] One word - Mid-slots
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:21:00 - [18] Originally by: Andromeda Lee .... some things that are great about amarr. better tanks then gallente better range then gallente. better tracking then gallente less cap usage on most ships then gallente. and on top of that they have very reasonable damage and good rate of fire. ... Bit of a shame the Empire will be fighting mostly the Matari in the coming war and not the Gallente then ain't it
Kofgod	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Aerandir Telrunya One word - Mid-slots ^^^^ Thats Two ^^^
Krist Valentine Amarr Freelancing Opportunists	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:24:00 - [20] Amarr midslots are in need of a boost, I'll agree, and I wouldn't mind some more PG here and there, but the argument that keeps getting used is that Amarrian DPS is lower than Gallente - err, sorry? That's kind of the whole point. Amarr tank, Gallente gank, Minmatar shoeshine and Caldari zip around 20k from their opponents, PVP'ing AFK. - - - - - Any thoughts or opinions expressed above are not in actual fact my own opinion. I just wanted to say something.
Aerandir Telrunya Gallente Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:27:00 - [21] /me fails at counting /amarr fails at midslots
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:45:00 - [22] You people just fail at everything, whats the point on having ALL THE FREAKING SHIPS WITH THE SAME SPECS!? ffs amarr don't have that many mids but strong tanks and lasers/HAMS now, gallente have drones and blasters, caldari shield tank and use missiles and finally minie are the jacks of all trades, so i ask what is the damn problem? You, the people that whine and cry nerf this and that, are just stupid , why don't you use your brain and think of setups for your ships, so what if vagas are speeding f1's in eve, and gallente have great blaster boats that do alot of damage, if you web a vaga its dead, if you dry the cap out of a mega its dead, if you disrupt the tracking on amarrians they can't hit sht, these are just examples and all the races have strong points and drawbacks. Shut the hell up with nerf nerf nerf, if you can't fly your ships properly switch to hello kitty and go ride the magic wand and give-me your ships instead. And btw, amarr are a very very very good race, problem is that people are lazy and let others do the thinkin for themselves. _____________________________________ Hello, i like to shoot random people.*
Aerandir Telrunya Gallente Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 12:22:00 - [23] Originally by: Dionisius You people just fail at everything, whats the point on having ALL THE FREAKING SHIPS WITH THE SAME SPECS!? Dude, seriously chill! My reply was meant tongue-in-cheek You are quite right, Amarr for instance make really great snipers. The OP was just 'whining about whiners', which btw strikes me as a little odd but meh. I was just highlighting why I am not too keen on them for general pvp and why amarr have a reputation (and don't flame me I said REPUTATION) for not being great pvp ships. For my money the reason for is the lack of available midslots for ewar etc. If it's any consolation Caldari have a similar reputation for the same reasons. Going off on one and calling people stupid just makes you look childish, yes people do tend shout nerf nerf and amarr suck, but don't don't rise to it - frankly most of it is meant in jest anyway
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.09.30 12:35:00 - [24] Common Omni tank- 80% EM, 60s for the rest : Race effected most, Amarr 90% amarr ships next to no midslots. Ewar everywhere: Race effected most, Amarr mid-range combat dead: effects Amarr and Caldari Nano-faggotry: adversely effects Amarr and Caldari Shortest range snipers: Amarr Hardest to fit Weapons: Amarr Highest Cap use: Amarr Worst tracking short-range weapons : Amarr non-bonused ships: Amarr no dmg bonuses: 50% amarr Should I continue?
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.09.30 13:31:00 - [25] Originally by: shinsushi Common Omni tank- 80% EM, 60s for the rest : Race effected most, Amarr 90% amarr ships next to no midslots. Ewar everywhere: Race effected most, Amarr mid-range combat dead: effects Amarr and Caldari Nano-faggotry: adversely effects Amarr and Caldari Shortest range snipers: Amarr Hardest to fit Weapons: Amarr Highest Cap use: Amarr Worst tracking short-range weapons : Amarr non-bonused ships: Amarr no dmg bonuses: 50% amarr Should I continue? Not to flame bait, but dare i ask if you have even flown minmatar? I'm starting to think people choose to fly amarr because they like wine with their cheese... and it fits with the backstory on their race. Minnie pilots just keep flying their trash-heaps and actually develop skills in something other than forum posting! ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
annoing Amarr The Royal Guard Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2007.09.30 13:57:00 - [26] Originally by: Andromeda Lee amarr 2 damage types EM/Therm Gallente 2 damage types kin/therm Great, so Amarr can eat through your shields but it wont do much damage to your armour. Gallente have a harder time against the shield (as long as they dont change ammo types of course ) but will eat the armour and structure. EM is ONLY good against shields and thats it. Amarr suctah thge most for damage. Quote: so damage type rarely matters. LIES!! Quote: some things that are great about amarr. better tanks then gallente better range then gallente. better tracking then gallente less cap usage on most ships then gallente. No it doesnt, it just has more armour points. Skillz make it better or not. Small armour repair skillz and you'll lose an amarr BS against a gallante cruiser. Range is dependant on the gun used or ammo fitted. Tracking is only slightly better, wont make too much of a difference. Less cap usage? This is the proof that you really have no idea what you are talking about. Cap usuage for Amarr is the worst of all the races. Lasers take MORe power to fit, more cap to fire on top of the fact we are supposed to be using armour repairers to try to stay alive. Quote: Yes gallente does more damage but it alot of other drawbacks. Like? Compared to amarr? Quote: Basically every race has +++ and --- except amarr which is total pants, except for the Crusader which is nice and fast TY Quote: so quit complaining about ships there all great. You meant they're, not there, and they're not all great. Amarr suctah, I should know, I am one
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.30 14:18:00 - [27] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 30/09/2007 14:18:24 Unlike other races, Amarr ships and their effectiveness in battle is dependent on the pilot My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Gavriel Black Amarr Pandaemonium's Children	Posted - 2007.09.30 14:21:00 - [28] I enjoy playing amarr, and i do so well. Hot chocolate and ice cream for everyone!
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 14:58:00 - [29] Only good thing amarr have going for them is range on the CLOSE RANG guns, we pay a bloody ship bonus for this... It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Sleepkevert Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.09.30 15:21:00 - [30] Originally by: Andromeda Lee better range then gallente. less cap usage on most ships then gallente. I stopped reading there... Seriously, before you start a counter whine thread, please, atleast fly one amarr ship. I admit, the range on lasers... is normal (no way near hybrid ranges tough) But the fallof plain sucks... And less cap usage? Give me a break. Just a full rack of lasers use more cap then your gallente shipp ever will, and then we need to tank... Sign my sig

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