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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.06 18:21:00 -
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CCP, I suppose this is a bug, because of the crippling effect it would have on mission-runners and ratters.... it's a bug, right?
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What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs. |
Ricky1989
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 19:25:00 -
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Well Capital Modules now take up 4000m3 too!
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 19:39:00 -
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:S Thats a bit "meh". Try to bring 8x tachys with any ship except hauler :S
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murder one
Gallente
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.06 19:48:00 -
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I love it when CCP introduces an answer to a non-existant problem, only to create the problem shortly afterwards! 
[07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now?
[07:14:05] Trista Rotnor > little boys to 2
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Sovarin
Caldari
The Black Ops
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Posted - 2007.10.06 19:59:00 -
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Good old CCP, Fix 1 bug and create 10. God love em.
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 20:37:00 -
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Tech 2 and named large turrets are 20.0m3, while tech 1 large turrets are 100.0m3.
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 06/10/2007 20:41:55
This alone should be a ... hmm ~10-15% nerf to ratting profits.
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Xequecal
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Posted - 2007.10.06 20:52:00 -
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I expected some kind of ratting nerf. Ratting needs no special skills or ship, and when it's far more profitable than things that do, (mining) there is a problem. You get more minerals from blowing up BS rats and melting down the loot than you do from actual mining.
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Valandril
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.06 21:09:00 -
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No more secondary fittings for my carrier in my cargo ?
Can anyone from ccp explain reason behind this? :P
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.06 21:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Xequecal
I expected some kind of ratting nerf. Ratting needs no special skills or ship, and when it's far more profitable than things that do, (mining) there is a problem. You get more minerals from blowing up BS rats and melting down the loot than you do from actual mining.
More low-end minerals, true, but taht's why the new types of asteroids seem to be for: provide a lot of low-ends minerals in 0.0, and at the same time remove the need of mineral compression to move low-ends from empire.
Update: Someone from CCP has spoken in singularity: this isn't a bug, but a tentative to stop mineral compression.
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Xequecal
I expected some kind of ratting nerf. Ratting needs no special skills or ship, and when it's far more profitable than things that do, (mining) there is a problem. You get more minerals from blowing up BS rats and melting down the loot than you do from actual mining.
More low-end minerals, true, but taht's why the new types of asteroids seem to be for: provide a lot of low-ends minerals in 0.0, and at the same time remove the need of mineral compression to move low-ends from empire.
Update: Someone from CCP has spoken in singularity: this isn't a bug, but a tentative to stop mineral compression.
Jesus christ, how do they always manage to screw things up like that.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.06 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowsword on 06/10/2007 21:43:36
Tested hunting in belts: the Npcs still drop T1 mods, with 100m3.
killed a 500k BS, looted what reprocess well: a 100mn ab, a 1600 plate, a dual 425mm autocanon. Guess what? cargo three-quarters full.
Start grinding your standings, it looks like you're going to do missions in high-sec to replace your ships...
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What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs. |
Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 21:42:00 -
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It's that damn new economist that put em to this, I bet
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Valandril
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.06 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 06/10/2007 21:47:35
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
It's that damn new economist that put em to this, I bet
I bet
Geez ccp, get some brain, like seriously ur nerfing carrier as refitting store because of "mineral compression"
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Inca Rose
Red Mercury Incorporated
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.10.06 21:52:00 -
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just...great 
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Darpz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.06 22:28:00 -
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lol has to be a joke, they can't have overlooked the problems this would cause....
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Delvainar
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.10.06 22:34:00 -
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Hey sweet.
Just wait till their economist expert on game design makes veldspar more profitable to mine than arkanor, on top of this. That will complete the "missions and mining in highsec is more profitable than anything in 0.0" transformation.
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:01:00 -
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Oh god. I thought they'd abandoned the idea of a mineral compression nerf.
Obviously not.
Time for carebear threadnought mk2?
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Scavok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Scavok on 06/10/2007 23:03:06
I'm really having a hard time trying to think of any reason to own 0.0 space besides the entertainment involved with defending and taking it. Mining is crap, ratting is now crap, moon mining is barely worth the effort. All production is going to take place in empire once this goes live, and only because of illegitimate chinese farmers and macro miners.
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Bund
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:06:00 -
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This is an inexplicably stupid change. CCP is hell-bent on completely destroying the economy. Whoever is making this **** up needs to take a year off from making spectacularly bad decisions and try playing the aspects of the game you're destroying. |
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Virgil Aquilis on 06/10/2007 23:14:31
Originally by: Xequecal
I expected some kind of ratting nerf. Ratting needs no special skills or ship, and when it's far more profitable than things that do, (mining) there is a problem. You get more minerals from blowing up BS rats and melting down the loot than you do from actual mining.
That's sort of faulty logic considering an Osprey can generally outmine everything up to a Covetor with mediocre skills. For mining you really just need Mining IV and theoretically Astrogeology at some level and you're off to the races. Oh, and probably Mining Upgrades I. But that's all.
edit: and it's not true. I'd get much more of the high-ends by mining than by ratting.
CCP, this is ridiculous. I can't decide whether this is some misguided attempt to "fix" mineral compression or an attempt to force ratters and mission runners to buy another account as a dedicated industrial looter.
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TheDevilsJury
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:14:00 -
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Around 20% of the profit from ratting comes from looting, and a good deal of the minerals in 0.0 (nearly half if I recall correctly). This is a colossally stupid move as it makes a lot harder to produce in 0.0, makes it more difficult to import or export tech 1 mods to/from 0.0 (to sell, ignore compression), and decreases ratting profits substantially. It affects even more areas that the previous proposed compression nerf (the refine nerf for big modules or whatever).
Furthermore, there's no need to nerf mineral compression if the new veldspar rocks are implemented properly.
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Jakiri
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jakiri on 06/10/2007 23:33:15
Edited by: Jakiri on 06/10/2007 23:30:15
Oh dear lord, solve the "compression problem" by making the minerals more available through mining boosts and thus make importation unnecessary rather than just destroying 0.0 production, ratting and the ability to refit in the field.
Why does this change make Eve more fun to play? What does it add to the game?
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Annaliese Witschak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:32:00 -
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Looks like the drone regions are about to get even more crowded
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Lymphatic
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:38:00 -
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I'm gonna go ahead and over react to this.
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Nackturion
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:42:00 -
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Sooo.. let me get this straight. They will make almost all T1 mod's take up 100m3 per mod? Aside from what it may do to ratting in 0.0, this will absolutely cripple mission runners.. and my side buisness of paying people to clean their missions when they leave everything behind.
Quite a lame idea. I would hope they seriously would not institute this.
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lymphatic
I'm gonna go ahead and over react to this.
That's how the hurricane lost it's 7th turret.
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:46:00 -
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Maybe they plan to give marauders really big cargo bays, and make them the only ship you can rat decently with.
Sure, what does it matter if we exclude every other ship from ratting a profit, as long as the marauders actually get a use :P
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Jinnigan
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:51:00 -
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I'm just curious what problem this is supposed to fix, exactly?
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Braaage
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:54:00 -
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Before you all jump to conclusions I'd like to point out that only certain modules have had there volume increased, not all of them and this is on Sisi which may get changed.
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