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Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:37:00 - [1] ???
Cyan Nuevo Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:39:00 - [2] Discuss in appropriate thread??? --- Proud Amarr pilot.
Corwain Gallente Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:39:00 - [3] To balance it with the OMGWTFDAMAGE increase. Wow, that was easy. Next? -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Return The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:39:00 - [4] Because they were intended to be short range, high damage missiles like rockets and HAMs. While the range gets reduced the rate of fire on the launchers gets faster so your DPS is going up.
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:40:00 - [5] For an OMGWTFBBQPWNHAX increase in damage. It's good enough that I will shortly be detouring off my quest for uber perfection of BC's to train up the Torp raven on my Caldari alt. Liang -- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU. Yarr?
Spacetrooper Kili	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:45:00 - [6] Does mega need to fit tracking computers to cause full damage to other BS? NO. Does raven need to fit target painters to get full damage on BS? YES Is that balanced? NO WHY THE HELL IS CALDARI GETTING NERFED AGAIN?
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:47:00 - [7] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/10/2007 16:47:41 Originally by: Spacetrooper Kili Does mega need to fit tracking computers to cause full damage to other BS? NO. Does raven need to fit target painters to get full damage on BS? YES Is that balanced? NO WHY THE HELL IS CALDARI GETTING NERFED AGAIN? Can the Mega deal 900 DPS from 30km? Come again. Liang Edit: No, I'm not doing this. ok u win ur always right omg im sorry plz -- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU. Yarr?
True Ace Gallente Invicta. Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.10.15 17:09:00 - [8] as said torps are meant to be short range anyway so it was long over due. to the guy comparing a torp raven to a blaster mega, just give it up.
Corwain Gallente Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.10.15 17:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Spacetrooper Kili Does mega need to fit tracking computers to cause full damage to other BS? NO. Does raven need to fit target painters to get full damage on BS? YES Is that balanced? NO WHY THE HELL IS CALDARI GETTING NERFED AGAIN? The Mega needs to fit a web, not a tracking disruptor. The fact that webs give much more tactical superiority than TP is a different issue altogether than blasters vs. torps. Remember, missiles and guns are inherently different. Now what I don't understand is why you're whining that you can no longer waste missiles shooting at targets that will either warp before your missiles get withing 50km, or, if tackled by your gangmates in close range turret ships, will pop before your missiles get within 50km. I wish that any time you did something REALLY stupid in EVE that you'd get castrated IRL, thus allowing the stupidest players in EVE to win Darwin Awards. -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain
KM0r Caldari State of Rogue Island	Posted - 2007.10.15 17:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Corwain The Mega needs to fit a web, not a tracking disruptor. The fact that webs give much more tactical superiority than TP is a different issue altogether than blasters vs. torps. Remember, missiles and guns are inherently different. Now what I don't understand is why you're whining that you can no longer waste missiles shooting at targets that will either warp before your missiles get withing 50km, or, if tackled by your gangmates in close range turret ships, will pop before your missiles get within 50km. So I guess torps are only useful for pvp? I know it's extremely rare, but I've actually heard of some people using torps for running missions. Odd huh?. Originally by: Corwain I wish that any time you did something REALLY stupid in EVE that you'd get castrated IRL, thus allowing the stupidest players in EVE to win Darwin Awards. So what is your proposed punishment for ignorance? -KM0r
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.15 17:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Spacetrooper Kili Does mega need to fit tracking computers to cause full damage to other BS? NO. Does raven need to fit target painters to get full damage on BS? YES Is that balanced? NO WHY THE HELL IS CALDARI GETTING NERFED AGAIN? Alot of little lol-monsters start to tickle my belly when i read this.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2007.10.15 17:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Spacetrooper Kili WHY THE HELL IS CALDARI GETTING NERFED AGAIN? Because I used the last month training up for a decent Torp Raven to mission with. Sorry, my fault. I just hope my Peaceful Space Cow (Domi) will forgive me for neglecting my drone skills for so long.
Odium47	Posted - 2007.10.15 18:41:00 - [13] Too many people getting in raveging CNRs... F...'em, they can nerf what they want, i dont care anymore. i'll train for all races and sell the ships that get nerfed !
Byzan Zwyth Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.15 18:54:00 - [14] Better for PvP, nerf for PvP. So after this change the Raven will be better for PvP and the best PvE ship is now.... Oh, the raven :) Lifes not so bad after all ---------------------- Rank: Tech 1 and a 1/2 cannon fodder Pointless forum slowing bandwidth hogging signature pic inc?
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.15 19:37:00 - [15] Liang i told you that you are my hero? :$
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.15 20:08:00 - [16] Javelin torps are still easily 100KM range. Due to the dps increase Javs actually do more dps on the test server than normal torps on tranquility. See where I am going with this range thing? To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.15 20:31:00 - [17] Originally by: KM0r So I guess torps are only useful for pvp? I know it's extremely rare, but I've actually heard of some people using torps for running missions. Odd huh?. Not anymore! ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI
AshtarDJ Filthy Scum	Posted - 2007.10.15 21:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Javelin torps are still easily 100KM range. Due to the dps increase Javs actually do more dps on the test server than normal torps on tranquility. See where I am going with this range thing? You have time to warp a frighter... twice... before my torps hit you at 100km. Ok.. maybe just once. See where I am going with this range thing?
Christina Bamar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:11:00 - [19] Caldari players complain constantly about not having the same damage output as other races and are told over and over again "well you have range" to which they respond, "yeah but we don't have damage!!!". Now they get damage but not range and it's "but I want range!!!". Face it, you can't have both. If you want long range use cruise, if you want damage use torps. It's exactly the same as every other race. I understand that it would be nice to be able to do blasterthron level dps out to 80 km, but it's not exactly a good idea game balance wise. And complaining about the nerf to PvE with the Raven still being the best ship for PvE after the nerf just shows how unbalanced things are in terms of PvE. You're getting a PvP boost and are still the best PvE, why complain?
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:15:00 - [20] Originally by: AshtarDJ Originally by: Spaced Skunk Javelin torps are still easily 100KM range. Due to the dps increase Javs actually do more dps on the test server than normal torps on tranquility. See where I am going with this range thing? You have time to warp a frighter... twice... before my torps hit you at 100km. Ok.. maybe just once. See where I am going with this range thing? Got space to rent in between your ears?
Qui Shon	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Javelin torps are still easily 100KM range. Due to the dps increase Javs actually do more dps on the test server than normal torps on tranquility. See where I am going with this range thing? Yeah, until they get around to chaging them too. Maybe they'll get the 2x TP requirement 530 exp radius as well, who knows.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:25:00 - [22] Originally by: Cyan Nuevo Discuss in appropriate thread??? Sorry Cyan, but looking at your posts you have already reached your sensible posting limit for the year Maybe because of the 33% damage bonus, but that would be too obvious maybe.... --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/10/2007 16:47:41 Originally by: Spacetrooper Kili Does mega need to fit tracking computers to cause full damage to other BS? NO. Does raven need to fit target painters to get full damage on BS? YES Is that balanced? NO WHY THE HELL IS CALDARI GETTING NERFED AGAIN? Can the Mega deal 900 DPS from 30km? Come again. Liang Edit: No, I'm not doing this. ok u win ur always right omg im sorry plz Lolz. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Bad Borris	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:31:00 - [24] I hope a decent version of the changes on test actually get put in place on tranquility. Cant wait tbh.... Torps V coming up...
Shereza	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:32:00 - [25] I love these topics. Mainly because I've never mounted a siege launcher on any of my ships and I've only flown my raven 3-4 times. Siege launchers are getting made more into the battleship/large equivalent of rockets and HAMs? Sounds good to me. Ravens doing 1000 dps at 100km with T2 torpedos and using their 2 free high slots (1k dps in a standard T1 raven, aye?) for drone link augments? Eh, sure, why not. Ravens having to choose (or so it seems based on wasting 2 highs on drone link augments instead of vampires to better make use of shield boosters/hardeners) between maximum tank and maximum gank? Sounds like every other ship in the game.
ITTigerClawIK Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:32:00 - [26] in short CCP gave Caldari the finger.... Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected])
Kor'El Swiftpaws	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:48:00 - [27] Originally by: KM0r So I guess torps are only useful for pvp? I know it's extremely rare, but I've actually heard of some people using torps for running missions. Odd huh?. Seriously, dude. It has been shown in numbers how torps rock now. Now tell me can for example a Tempest have 30km and 100km ranges with ACs if it just swaps ammo? Dont think so. Ravens now can! You fit T2 siege launchers, get in, and do one of the following 3: 1) Use javelines all the way ccause ure lazy. 2) Use CN torps all the way cause ure lazy 3) Use javs when you warp in for distant targets, reload with CNs and kill whats come close to you. I mean its f'n 1000 dps! Its awesome! Especially vs Angels... Comin up close on MWD... Mmm!
Rawr Cristina Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.15 22:56:00 - [28] ermm fit Cruise Launchers? -----
Vigaz	Posted - 2007.10.15 23:41:00 - [29] Does CCP want to add damage and to reduce range? Great , but pls do it in a more balance way. 80% reduction of range cant be so 'easy' .
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation	Posted - 2007.10.15 23:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Vigaz Does CCP want to add damage and to reduce range? Great , but pls do it in a more balance way. 80% reduction of range cant be so 'easy' . dude, ur face... -- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU. Yarr?

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