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Plave Okice Gallente 0utlaws	Posted - 2007.10.23 11:57:00 - [1] Edited by: Plave Okice on 23/10/2007 11:58:21 Not seen anyone else post about these yet, todays dev blog; http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=513 Still reading, initial thoughs soon. My main interest; Quote: * Hull: Megathron / Duvolle Labs * Slots: 7/4/7, 4 turrets * Fitting: 550tf, 12,000mw * Drones: 125Mbit/s bandwidth, 125m3 dronebay * Sensors: 13pt magnetometric, 10 target locks * Propulsion: 135m/s, 102,500,000kg * Tech II resistance bonus: 25% kinetic, 12.5% thermal * Cargo: 1275m3 Bonuses * 5% bonus to large hybrid turret damage per Gallente BS level * 2% bonus to stasis webifier velocity factor per Gallente BS level * 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per Marauder level * 7.5% bonus to large hybrid turret tracking per Marauder level * Role bonus: 100% bonus to large hybrid turret damage * Role bonus: 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams Bonuses as expected
Plave Okice Gallente 0utlaws	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:05:00 - [2] No Cov Ops Cloak for the black ops ships it seems
Fuazzole	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:07:00 - [3] I'm liking what i see, yes. cept the bit.. megaT has 7 guns, this has effectivly 8 raven has 7 launchers this has effectivly 8 Apoc....oh
Seiryu VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:07:00 - [4] I like the marauders. Black Ops are kinda meh. ----True bravery is not lacking fear, but confronting it.----
Plave Okice Gallente 0utlaws	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:09:00 - [5] I like the Marauders more than I thought I would, always wanted a T2 Mega, they will be good, strong but not overpowered PvP ships (not bothered about NPCing), cost depending anyway. Faction BS will become cheaper.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:11:00 - [6] I really like the new ewar frigs. Especially the minmatar one
Trojanman190 Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:14:00 - [7] The price on T2 bs is going to be unbelievable.
OneSock Crown Industries	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:19:00 - [8] 4 mids on the kronos ? Ok ones going to be an AB/MWD and another a webber, so your down to two. Well I suppose it depends on the base cap regen but for Missions, those two mids will probably have to be cap rechargers. Will it have the cap for a decent tank ? Ok you can put in cap booster but then say byebye to your nice big cargo bay. Hmm, have to wait to see how it plays out config wise. :-/ Plus I assume it's 25mbit for a heavy/sentry, so what happened to the idea of giving a larger drone bay to provide greater flexibility ? Your stuck here with 5 heavy/sentry and no space for a set of lights.
Plave Okice Gallente 0utlaws	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Trojanman190 The price on T2 bs is going to be unbelievable. Wasn't that long ago plenty of people were spending a bill on Faction BS, won't be me though, I won't buy one unless they come under 500mill which they might never do.
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:25:00 - [10] My opinion: Black Ops ships: Very well balanced. I'm impressed. Marauders: Amarr gets ******. We get an Apocalypse sendoff with no damage bonus beyond the obligatory one, Gallente gets a 1500+ DPS monster with a damage bonus, tracking bonus, and 5 heavy drones. Not to mention enough fitting to add a dualrep tank and probably energy neutralizers on top of it.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:27:00 - [11] Jesus ******* Christ... can't believe Amarr get the shaft AGAIN... seriously... Paladin... WTF?
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:29:00 - [12] Originally by: Xequecal My opinion: Black Ops ships: Very well balanced. I'm impressed. Marauders: Amarr gets ******. We get an Apocalypse sendoff with no damage bonus beyond the obligatory one, Gallente gets a 1500+ DPS monster with a damage bonus, tracking bonus, and 5 heavy drones. Not to mention enough fitting to add a dualrep tank and probably energy neutralizers on top of it. You're forgetting a free double web - you get two webs for the price of one. The T2 Mega is going to be a bloody monster. At least they made them vunerable to ECM - everything else about the ships screams of 'own'. Oh, btw - does anyone know what the skill reqs of ewar frigs will be?
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Jesus ******* Christ... can't believe Amarr get the shaft AGAIN... seriously... Paladin... WTF? Eh, the Redeemer is excellent. And so is the Amarr EW frigate. If you want a solopwnmobile battleship with lasers, buy a Nightmare. It's a comparable price and a lot better than the Amarr/Caldari/Minmatar marauders. Not the Gallente one, of course, but you don't get to be overpowered if you don't pick Gallente.
Cryselle	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:32:00 - [14] Edited by: Cryselle on 23/10/2007 12:32:11 OMG Paladin, can someone beat some sense into CCP. 4 turrets and still cap usage reduction for lasers
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:32:00 - [15] Golem looks weak. Target painter bonus on a near billion shield tanking ship? LOL. Not only that, it gets a shield boost amount bonus instead of resists. . And no damage/RoF, instead it gets explosion velocity. **** that I'll train something else, the Amarr one doesn't look any better either .
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:32:00 - [16] Originally by: Cpt Branko I really like the new ewar frigs. Especially the minmatar one Blegggh!! Target Painter bonus blegh!! ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Gralg Merglen Minmatar Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:34:00 - [17] everytime i see target painter bonus i think of the bellicose. Originally by: Graalum I can also confirm that the guristas pirates have a titan. We tried to kill it but unfortunately it mwded away at 5k/second and smacked us in local.
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:34:00 - [18] Marauders are ok in general and definately step up from tech 1, but in case of mission running (and raven/CNR in particular) Golem does less damage than CNR if I'm not mistaken. Golem has 100% damage bonus and 4 launchers while CNR has 7 launchers with 5% per level RoF bonus (giving overall better damage, while using more ammo). As I have not tested them in action yet then too early to panic. Perhaps they are actually better in missions thanx to that explocion velocity bonus in addition to good base damage. We will see.
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:36:00 - [19] I like the widow at first sight, but it seems counterproductive to give it two missile bonuses since its an ECM ship and won't be running BCUs in those lows anyway.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Cpt Branko I really like the new ewar frigs. Especially the minmatar one Blegggh!! Target Painter bonus blegh!! Yeah, that part sucks, but our ewar ships have the obligatory useless bonus, what do you expect? However, I can live with three bonuses to get the low mass + high speed + 18-20km web ;)
Entity One	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:37:00 - [21] It would seem that CCP was lying when they said T2 BS's wouldn't be the new "pwnmobiles." The T2 Megathron is absolutely ridiculous. It has more effective turrets than the T1 Mega, while at the same time retaining the same slot layout. It also has a web bonus that is somewhat equivalent to a damage bonus based on the target. It can also outtank a hyperion, which is supposed to the the tier 3 tanking BS. On top of that, it has a ridiculous cargo bay that roughly amounts to a setup that will run over two times longer than a T1 mega before capping out, while at the same time using less cap because it's running 4 guns instead of 7. In any case, I'm getting one. :)
Fuazzole	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Transcendant One Golem looks weak. Target painter bonus on a near billion shield tanking ship? LOL. Not only that, it gets a shield boost amount bonus instead of resists. . And no damage/RoF, instead it gets explosion velocity. **** that I'll train something else, the Amarr one doesn't look any better either . This things your slatting are not to be under estimated
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:42:00 - [23] The black ops ships are insane. They're basicly battleship sized stealthbombers, and they can open up a jump portal that can send Stealthships into a system 4 lightyears away . Still. Not solopwnmachines, so that's good. As for the Paladin. Slightly disappointed, but I guess we have a ship now that can fit the equivalent of 8 Tachyons without giving up all its lows for RCUIIs and caprelays. Mostly I'm disappointed because it's basically a pre-nerfed Kronos (slower, less agile, probably half the firepower, fewer drones and the same slotting). ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
zilllii Squirrel Power	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Fuazzole Edited by: Fuazzole on 23/10/2007 12:07:18 I'm liking what i see, yes. cept the bit.. megaT has 7 guns, this has effectivly 8 raven has 6 launchers this has effectivly 8 Apoc....oh Apoc has 8guns and effectively 4guns gimme bigger letter count in my sig so it wont cut off everything damnit!!!!
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Fuazzole This things your slatting are not to be under estimated I'm sure they're great at killing abing frigates. Awesome.
Fuazzole	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:45:00 - [26] Originally by: Transcendant One Originally by: Fuazzole This things your slatting are not to be under estimated I'm sure they're great at killing abing frigates. Awesome. Or alowing the new imba torp DPS to "work"
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:46:00 - [27] i have a short question about black op ships.. are they able to fly in empire? and use the portals in empire? ->My Vids<-
Transcendant One	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Fuazzole Or alowing the new imba torp DPS to "work" The t1 raven has 6 launchers with 25% RoF, that's 33% damage. Factor in reload time and their damage will be about equal. I suspect few people will use painters on the golem, and will instead let their gangmates do that while running a larger tank and ignore the bonus entirely.
FawKa Gallente x13	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:55:00 - [29] Such a laugh CCP makes a ship to make missions in with the dps and alpha greater than most other BSs ^^ Anyways, can someone post a screenie of skill's needed?
Mamarto Minmatar Dead Pirates' Society	Posted - 2007.10.23 12:58:00 - [30] These are the skills we know so far I think.

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