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Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.10.24 05:36:00 - [1] What is your opinion on what constitutes "wealthy" in the EVE economy? I myself am clueless as to what the benchmark maybe. Just curious Val
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.10.24 05:36:00 - [2] What is your opinion on what constitutes "wealthy" in the EVE economy? I myself am clueless as to what the benchmark maybe. Just curious Val
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.24 05:39:00 - [3] Poor = is flying t1 friggies because he doesn't want to earn isk (can't blame him). Average = running missions to buy ships that are going to get blown up. Wealthy = have enough isk not to worry about money every time a ship is lost. Rich = have enough isk that it is more profitable to throw the isk around than run missions.
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.24 05:39:00 - [4] Poor = is flying t1 friggies because he doesn't want to earn isk (can't blame him). Average = running missions to buy ships that are going to get blown up. Wealthy = have enough isk not to worry about money every time a ship is lost. Rich = have enough isk that it is more profitable to throw the isk around than run missions.
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2007.10.24 05:47:00 - [5] In my opinion, a wealthy person has enough isk to replace his ships and pay his gametime with isk. If you can do this, then I think you are doing perfectly fine in the universe of EVE WTS: Armageddon / Void L / Mobile Large Warp Disruptor
Idrift Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.10.24 05:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Vitrael Rich = have enough isk that it is more profitable to throw the isk around than run missions. By that definition I am rich, but I know there are people around who absolutely dwarf my wallet. I have enough to buy what I want so I consider myself rich.
Phantom Slave Amarr Mozzaki United	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:03:00 - [7] Well, compared to where I was a month ago, I'm wealthy. A month ago I had probably 5-10 mil isk. I'm pushing my way steadily through 200 mil now, but I also know that anybody playing this game longer than me (2 months now) has more money in their wallet than I've ever earned and spent. Just depends on what you aim for and what you enjoy doing. ____________________ Pirating in EVE is like kicking a squirrel and stealing his food. The squirrel hates you afterwards, but it's fun none the less.
Cipher7 OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:09:00 - [8] The bum sleeping on the street is destitute. The person living on welfare in public housing is poor. The guy working 9 to 5 every day for 30k is a wage slave. The guy working 9 to 5 every day for 100k a year is a professional. Shakiel O'Neil is rich. The person who signs Shakiel O'Neil's check is wealthy. Any questions?
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:12:00 - [9] If you can afford to hire all of MC with the cap ship fleet, then you're wealthy. Otherwise you're merely rich. Rich people can afford most things, wealthy people can afford (virtually) anything. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map: Keeping Down The Clone Business Since 2007AD
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:27:00 - [10] i got around 100 bill in assets, but not raw isk... 100 bill in assets is quite normal...
Neth'Rae Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:34:00 - [11] Edited by: Neth''Rae on 24/10/2007 06:34:41 I have maybe 200-300mil in assets.. And 430mil in my wallet.. And I've been playing two months, I think I'm a bit over average considering my playtime :) "th-ere.. w-as... re..ally.. a caa-ke.."
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:35:00 - [12] My standard is that if you pull in at least 1 billion ISK/month with no more effort than maybe a half hour a day on average working at it, you are doing well enough. (And that's pretty much where I'm at at the moment in Eve.)
hellsknights Hells Angels Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:39:00 - [13] Rich people buy GTC and sell them for ISK. recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
XenoPagan Enterprise Estonia	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:49:00 - [14] my standard for wealth is when I have enough money to buy two fully fitted battleships when I lose them. that's enough for me
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.10.24 06:58:00 - [15] I am starting to get idea of a benchmark Thank you everybody for the input.
Rangkai	Posted - 2007.10.24 07:19:00 - [16] Wealthy = owning office space in Jita... It's impossible to earn less than 500 billion a day there.
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.10.24 07:24:00 - [17]
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 07:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Val Vympel What is your opinion on what constitutes "wealthy" in the EVE economy? I myself am clueless as to what the benchmark maybe. Just curious Val When I can lend ISK to my friends and not care whether I get it back. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Some Caldari Caldari Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.10.24 08:11:00 - [19] Hmm so struggling to earn more then 100 mil in my wallet ever is pretty bad then considering I'm about 4-5 months old in the game now. ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2007.10.24 08:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Some Caldari Hmm so struggling to earn more then 100 mil in my wallet ever is pretty bad then considering I'm about 4-5 months old in the game now. It depends a lot on style of play. If you have lots of time to spend playing, then you'll always make more ISK with grind-like activities. (mining, ratting, etc) But if not, then try looking at something that can make you a good amount of money while not requiring to spend countless hours playing. Trade is a good place to start, find something you can buy low and sell high, there are lots of opportunities, specially in the trade hubs. If you get good at it, you'll find yourself making billions a month with minimal effort. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.10.24 08:24:00 - [21] Originally by: hellsknights Rich people buy GTC and sell them for ISK. This. Now all I need is to get a job... --- Join BH-DL
Some Caldari Caldari Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.10.24 08:29:00 - [22] Well I did try level 4s but I got my arse handed to me on the first one so I gave that up as a bad job, seems I'm crap at setting up Ravens. I've tried trade a few times but I've found it just so damn difficult to work out. I never know what to trade with and I almost always end up loosing money or wasting half the day. Plus I hear that most of the time you need a freighter to make it worth while, the most I can move is 3km^3 in my shopping alt's T1 indy. (My main has been naughty and sits in low sec all day trying to find something fun to poke.) Might try going to null sec again to rat hopefully no one will come into the system till I've finished killing the BS spawns very slowly in my cruiser. ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
TimMc Skiddies of Doom	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:09:00 - [23] Edited by: TimMc on 24/10/2007 09:09:33 Originally by: hellsknights Rich people buy GTC and sell them for ISK. I buy GTCs with my isk, meaning I only have what I need. Most I have ever had was 900million, and I would consider myself rich at that point, because I really had no use for it as my skills aren't good enough to make buying faction fittings a wise idea. At the moment I have 440million isk, and I would consider myself wealthy because all I do is sit in station and change skills. Occasionally out of bordom I orbit the outpost at 7kms in my Taranis.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:15:00 - [24] You're wealthy if you're having fun Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
ollobrains DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:20:00 - [25] wealthy is when u take 4b of faction fitted faction BS and can then replace it with 4 more in the same day and take em 0.0 or low sec PVPing with minimal support
CaperPuts Minmatar Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:30:00 - [26] I'd consider myself fairly rich. I have a few faction BS's, a few BS's faction fitted, a few HAC's faction fitted... etc. Probably about 10 billion ISK in assets. If I have never lost a ship, probably closer to 20 billion :)
Saint Luka The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:36:00 - [27] My standard for wealth is having atleast 2 variety of each class of ship, including capitals. Having enough assets/fittings to fit said ships and then some. Having enough isk to spend on implants etc. Not mining/ratting/mission running/inventing/building to get it. Why pay for a game too grind? ;) -
Some Caldari Caldari Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:37:00 - [28] I need to stop coming into this thread it's making me depressed. ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:38:00 - [29] Originally by: hellsknights Rich people buy GTC and sell them for ISK. How sad and true for many out there. I would consider myself wealthy but not overly rich, and every penny ive made in game was honesltly earned, Paradox V2.0 is recruiting!
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:43:00 - [30] iv been playin several years, i am well off i would say currently, but i pvp alot, and a pvp'ers wallet by normal is lower than that of a mission runner or producer. I currently have 800mil in wallet and around 15 billion in assets at least. highest ever single amount in my wallet was just over 4 billion. But i dont have to worry about money for a while as a few months back i bought around 5 bs, 5 recons, 30 intys, several command ships fitted them all with t2 gear. so for the next few months at least all i have to pay for is the insurance and on the BS scale of things i re gather my money from the insurance and pay for the insurance with loot. so i will be at a nice level par for the next say 6 months
Cookie Snakeoil Industries Ltd.	Posted - 2007.10.24 09:58:00 - [31] Originally by: Rodj Blake You're wealthy if you're having fun ^^ this man speaks the truth although he's Amarr
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:00:00 - [32] Originally by: Val Vympel What is your opinion on what constitutes "wealthy" in the EVE economy? I myself am clueless as to what the benchmark maybe. Just curious Val Being able to buy evertything you want to use without isk being an issue.
Zaerlorth Maelkor	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:10:00 - [33] Originally by: Some Caldari Hmm so struggling to earn more then 100 mil in my wallet ever is pretty bad then considering I'm about 4-5 months old in the game now. in short yes. but don't sweat it, change can happen really fast. I was in your situation too no more than one month ago. Then things began to happen very fast. I now have 1.2b in my wallet and about 2b in assets.
cRazYf1St House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.10.24 10:38:00 - [34] i have about 4-5 bill in assets around 400 mill in my wallet and i sustain 2 accounts by isk so i'd say i'm not doing badly but for the amount of time i've been playing this is very poor *********************************************** OMFG YARRRR!?!?!?!?!
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:16:00 - [35] This is one depressing thread. I consider myself fairly well-off because I own a fully fitted carrier and dreadnaught, and a couple of battleships scattered around. I don't think I have anywhere near the 10bil in assets that one guy said was normal. --------------------------------------------------------------------
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:22:00 - [36] Hm, i'm poor then, and lazy... and a carebear... and an empire hugger... Yes, yes, i'm a poor, lazy empirehugging carebear and i love it! The few missions i do earn me just enough isk to buy me some new toys once in a while, no spare to pay for gtc's, now u also know why deep inside i cry, everytime someone whines that hi sec people have it too easy bla bla bla... because it's just not true, atleast not for me. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Boomhaur Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:23:00 - [37] Edited by: Boomhaur on 24/10/2007 11:24:37 Broke - usually someone like me who cant afford to replace his/her current ship if its blown up, or purchase ship trained for, me yet again. I need another 400mil or more to buy my command ship and fit it out and the implants to fly it properly, oh and a GTC after that so make it 800mil down the drain Well Off - can afford to replace current ship and fittings (including implants) at least 3 times incase something bad happens Wealthy - Can't throw money around at everything they see, but can possibly faction fit a single ship of their choice and have enough left over for at least a T2 backup ship Rich - Never pays attention to wallet and is capable of throwing money around like crazy, and is capable of crushing your foes with your wallet. And has been known to do so.
Gorthauran Amarr Throne of Tragedy	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:34:00 - [38] You are not rich until your epeen is the size of an Amarrian Titan.
Aramendel Amarr North Face Force	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Vitrael Rich = have enough isk that it is more profitable to throw the isk around than run missions. You can do that with 100 mil
Jacque DeCoure	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:46:00 - [40] Rich = never undocking with a ship you can't afford to lose and always being able to afford to lose your backup ship.
Some Caldari Caldari Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:55:00 - [41] Hmm so how do you people like make money then? I've been flying round in low sec for a while and it's bloody hard to make any money at all. Fortunately cruisers are fairly cheap so at least I can afford to loose some during normal game play (I make a lot of unhealthy combat decisions) but my wallet is starting to feel the pain a bit and even with insurance I'm probably gonna be broke before too long. ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Maximada Minmatar Porta Incendia 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:02:00 - [42] rich = me
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:02:00 - [43] Originally by: hellsknights Rich people buy GTC and sell them for ISK. Thats what I am thinking - that or they mission, rat, trade, build 23/7. I've been playing for 3 1/2 years now and I have a Bill in cash and a few T2 fitted ships (recons, CS, BBs and the such). I can't seem to make money though. . . so I guess I binge on ships, then mission/rat to make back the isk. -----------
Rilder Caldari THC LTD Dogs of War.	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:23:00 - [44] Originally by: Rodj Blake You're wealthy if you're having fun I counter with, your Wealthy when you have a group of friends you enjoy flying with.(or friends you can leech off missions with ) --
Romay	Posted - 2007.10.24 16:53:00 - [45] I am rich. I have a GTC BPO.
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:12:00 - [46] 2 - 5 bill in assets 11mill in wallet 2 bill strewn about in corp (shares, etc) i consider myself quite poor, though i can replace any ship i lose without an issue and t2 re-fit it. its all how everybody perceives themselves. the new player 100 mill isk is rich as he only uses 5 mill ships with fittings... i use a 180 mill ship with 350 mill in fittings.. big difference, but probably the same percentage in isk.... im poor.. donate to me, so i can get drunk :P Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo.
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:19:00 - [47] I wouldn't call myself rich, but I tend to find that I'm having more Isk than I currently need quite often. Not that I don't like it.. or the amount increasing for no apparent reason
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:21:00 - [48] Originally by: Maltitol 2 - 5 bill in assets 11mill in wallet 2 bill strewn about in corp (shares, etc) i consider myself quite poor, though i can replace any ship i lose without an issue and t2 re-fit it. its all how everybody perceives themselves. the new player 100 mill isk is rich as he only uses 5 mill ships with fittings... i use a 180 mill ship with 350 mill in fittings.. big difference, but probably the same percentage in isk.... im poor.. donate to me, so i can get drunk :P I now charge you 50 million ISK for my whines. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 million SP in Forum Warfare Originally by: CCP Wrangler Booooo!!! Tarminic sux!!!
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:27:00 - [49] Edited by: Maltitol on 24/10/2007 17:27:38 NERF TARMINIC! Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo.
Fester Addams Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:47:00 - [50] Wealthy is a very poor term for EvE, you are wealthy when you have fun doing what you do and dont have to do tedious and anoying things to do what you wish to do. If you for example have to grind 10 hours a week to afford the toys you want then you are not wealthy. If you on the other hand have a great time mining then you are wealthy. Wealthy is not a measurment of isk. If you are talking how much isk is alot of isk... Well when you can loose a BS, a HAC, a capital ship or the like and not feel its a drain on your wad of isk then you have alot of isk. In threads like this one people will always show off claiming to make huge piles of isk with no effort, some will naturally be true but most are hot air. But as anyone can make over 800mil a month with a single account with no effort after the initial setup... well lets just say there are plenty of ways to make easy isk if you know them :)
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:55:00 - [51] You're wealthy until you go and lose your large faction control tower because you where transporting it in a T1 hauler with no escort and then get all mad and threaten to quit Eve... not pointing a finger at anyone in particular here Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Kehmor Caldari Fountain of Youth	Posted - 2007.10.24 18:00:00 - [52] Wealth in eve isn't really about what you have. It's about what you could have if you wanted to. It's also about who you know and what you can do. Assets and isk wise I'm fairly poor given my age, but I consider myself richer than the mission *****s who lack contacts and ability. The Movement is recruiting!
gregory j Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 18:15:00 - [53] Wealth in EVE, imo, is having the resources to pursue what you enjoy...for some people that means PvP in cruisers, for others it's trading between the main market hubs. It's probably a good idea to be careful with your wallet, but I don't think the wealthiest people in EVE started with the idea of making as much isk as possible. Instead, they found something they enjoyed doing and then became actively involved in it. ------------------------------------------------ 2007.02.22 03:34 This evemail message is subject to a CSPA service charge of 2,000,000,000 ISK, which you must accept to complete the invitation.
Mr McCargo	Posted - 2007.10.24 19:25:00 - [54] When I started Eve, I considered people with over 100m wealthy. In 10 days I made 100m myself and 1b looked alot to me. Now, after a month and a half, I have a little over 1b and would have even more, if not for a typo worth 600m. Now, I think a person is wealthy, when he has 400 orders active and still can buy all the exotic dancers in Eve.
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2007.10.24 19:33:00 - [55] commoner: below 10b middle class :10b+ upper class: 100b+ Wealthy: 500b+ Elite: 1t+ (Total assets) (Yes there are plenty of people who have 100b in assets, its nothing special)
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.10.24 19:53:00 - [56] Willing to fly multi billion faction bs around without crying over a loss. _
Veng3ance Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2007.10.24 20:11:00 - [57] 3.5B+ in the wallet 4-5B in additional assets. TBH, I still don't feel I have near enough ISK. I can't fly faction BS's without crying over a loss, and I can't really fit pirate implants. Someone give me 10B!
Khrillian	Posted - 2007.10.24 21:06:00 - [58] Dammit I used to be rich and then I took a break from eve and now I'm poor :( . (I remember when having a bs was a big deal, then having a bs BPO was a big deal, and so on).
Steini OFSI Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.24 21:22:00 - [59] Personally I think these threads do not portray the average EvE persons since forum monkeys are usually the more addicted people who tend to play more than the average person.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2007.10.24 21:30:00 - [60] Wealthy is that point at which your money works for you, not the other way around. _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.10.24 21:38:00 - [61] Wealthy is a someone who can afford to fly whatever he wants and not be bothered by the loss of it. I think, it happens when you approach 50 bill+. But I'm not a big expert here, never was even remotely close to that, and probably never will (not knowing what T2 lottery is about, when so many BPOs were unseeded 2+ years ago is a stupid mistake, which you should pay for, and I'm doing just that). Press alt+F4 to reduce lag
Shiken Kan	Posted - 2007.10.24 21:41:00 - [62] Originally by: Some Caldari Hmm so how do you people like make money then? I've been flying round in low sec for a while and it's bloody hard to make any money at all. Fortunately cruisers are fairly cheap so at least I can afford to loose some during normal game play (I make a lot of unhealthy combat decisions) but my wallet is starting to feel the pain a bit and even with insurance I'm probably gonna be broke before too long. i'm running with a couple of research agents, that's about 200m per month with all i have to do is selling my datacores once a week or so, but i'm far from being rich :p

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