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Jack'of'Diamonds
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Posted - 2007.10.26 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jack''of''Diamonds on 26/10/2007 23:55:06
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.10.27 00:00:00 -
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Probably not quite so pretty until the next graphical update, but you get the added bonus of EVE already existing.
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shupaco yaloo
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:19:00 -
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looks good but will it be playable?
the eve graphics update will slaughter that game before it comes out because at the moment thats the only strong point going for it
any new games will have more bugs than eve and in that time eve can adjust itself to counter any other games strong points
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:22:00 -
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Yeah looks marvelous, but will it run on a windows 98? 
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.27 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 27/10/2007 11:43:48
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Daroek Ko'thon
The Aforementioned
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:34:00 -
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Wow, that is totally a cool looking game. Let's hope development goes well for them. I can't wait to try the beta when it comes around.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.10.27 12:58:00 -
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Not too shabby. The scale is not yet realistic, but the execution looks quite neat.
I suggest we dispatch a group of EVE Yarrr pirates  to pirate that engine, then give it to the Devs to test their maybe planned Reverse Engineer game feature on it, and if it succeeds, CCP can employ the same technlogoy
Buff room for large link addresses in sigs plz :( |
Groes Thir
Gallente
Karjala Inc.
Onnenpyora
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:11:00 -
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Add around 500 ships there pewing each other to Davey Jones locker and back, and see if it still works on that hardware. Yarrbbq has been server
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Haks'he Lirky
Dominion Imperium
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:24:00 -
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thats not going to be laggy, no sir!! :)
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shupaco yaloo
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
thats not going to be laggy, no sir!! :)
not if you upgrade your box
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:33:00 -
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So, would you REALLY want EVE to play like this ?
I mean, seriously, WOULD you ?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't want to have EVE handling like a bastard child of X-Wing and Descent.
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Norjia Blacksteel
Gallente
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:35:00 -
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That does look very nice. Though it seems to be aimed at a very specific non-EVE audience. Real-time flight-sim style combat. I could go for that, but getting slaughtered by experienced players would suck. And sticking to PvE... well I dunno.
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Haks'he Lirky
Dominion Imperium
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: shupaco yaloo
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
thats not going to be laggy, no sir!! :)
not if you upgrade your box
100 ships on screen doing this? or more?
Im sorry, no box would be good enough.
unless my sarcasm detector is off :P
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Exercitus Solus
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 27/10/2007 13:52:49
Originally by: Jack'of'Diamonds
Edited by: Jack''of''Diamonds on 26/10/2007 23:55:06
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Heh, not even close tbh.
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Not too shabby. The scale is not yet realistic, but the execution looks quite neat.
I suggest we dispatch a group of EVE Yarrr pirates to pirate that engine, then give it to the Devs to test their maybe planned Reverse Engineer game feature on it, and if it succeeds, CCP can employ the same technlogoy
They already had to ban a whole bunch of EVE zealots who came around to mock the game (at the forums, ofc) because apparently market has no place for another space MMO.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:06:00 -
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There's always people like that who have to make themselves important, sadly. 
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Baleur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:08:00 -
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Thats Infinity: Quest for Earth, not eve. So obviously EVE wont look like that.. Duh?
Its like showing a video of Crysis and asking if Mass Effect will look like that. No it wont, but it will still look perhaps exactly equally awesome :)
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shupaco yaloo
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
So, would you REALLY want EVE to play like this ?
I mean, seriously, WOULD you ?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't want to have EVE handling like a bastard child of X-Wing and Descent.
hahaha thats so lame
the only place for that in eve is interceptors and its so low on the priority list that
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Valator Uel
Caldari
Pax Minor Asylum
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
So, would you REALLY want EVE to play like this ?
I mean, seriously, WOULD you ?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't want to have EVE handling like a bastard child of X-Wing and Descent.
Ofcourse I wouldn't want EVE to play like this but you're forgetting that that footage is from the Client Prototype test. FYI that's even before alpha or beta, so expect things to get much much MUCH better from here on. I've played quite a bit on the prototype client and the funnest part is the physics around it. In the prototype you can only fly small fast ships or and two slightly heavier ships. The handeling of these ships is pretty darn cool and takes some time to master their flight. But being able to pull off manouveurs you only see in movies (like the classic "turn around and fly backwards while shoothing the guy at your 6") makes it all worth it.
I can't wait for the next client to come out so I can test some of their new goodies.
Oh and Akita, this is by far not the bastard child of X-Wing or Descent, this is going to be the next version of Elite, the game that made CCP want to create EVE-Online.
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HandSoLow
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: HandSoLow on 27/10/2007 15:07:12
This look good, as mentioned before this is not for EVE...but it would be good if CCP could implement this design within the new EVE engine/patch.
Thing is though, that CAN NOT be Earth as Saturn is too close. Although, it could be Tiamat, a watery planet with some land, 5 times bigger than Earth and its close to Saturn...but then Tiamat got blown up 2,000 years ago LOL.
The stations look nice and crispy, I noticed that the planets altitude from land to space is a bit too short aswell.
The should go ahead with this, but..for a different game other than EVE..why the hell is it here? :)
Edit: Grammar.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:15:00 -
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So they have resurrected Decent FreeSpace as a MMO....
Seriously, its a FPS which is NOT what EvE is about. It might entice all the twitch players/WoW kiddies to go somewhere else and bring some tactics back to Eve though....
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
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shupaco yaloo
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Posted - 2007.10.27 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby
So they have resurrected Decent FreeSpace as a MMO....
Seriously, its a FPS which is NOT what EvE is about. It might entice all the twitch players/WoW kiddies to go somewhere else and bring some tactics back to Eve though....
and thats always good news
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Leonidas Rex
Amarr
FM Corp
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.10.27 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby
So they have resurrected Decent FreeSpace as a MMO....
Seriously, its a FPS which is NOT what EvE is about. It might entice all the twitch players/WoW kiddies to go somewhere else and bring some tactics back to Eve though....
Be nice :)
I love the EVE the way it is, but I wouldnt mind having individual pilots inside each fighter and they would be playing a fps style combat while the rest of us do it the old fashion eve-way! ^^
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Exercitus Solus
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Posted - 2007.10.27 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby
So they have resurrected Decent FreeSpace as a MMO....
Seriously, its a FPS which is NOT what EvE is about. It might entice all the twitch players/WoW kiddies to go somewhere else and bring some tactics back to Eve though....
However which one takes more skill, ctrl-clicking a box on the screen, hitting approach and pushing F1 to F8 or throwing an Immelmann in zero-G while avoiding flak/something similar from own support ships?
Seriously this is apples vs oranges. Infinity has already been specced to be something completely different than EVE and it will clearly cater another category of users. What really matters is overall execution.
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Synapse X
Gallente
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.27 18:47:00 -
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"Development status:
The game is currently in early development, and no playable version has been released yet.
Estimated time before first playable release: 1 to 2 years (in best case). "
Expect at least 4 years until a Beta release.
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Caiman Graystock
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:27:00 -
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I'm sure they have banned many EVE players from their site. All they seem to do is mock EVE and the people who play it, that forum exudes arrogance on a scale even this one doesn't know. Yeah, give me a shout when they go gold and have 30,000 online.
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iiOs
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:46:00 -
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Game looks like crap
and LOL and their forums regarding eve
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iiOs
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:50:00 -
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Lets see how this turns out:D >>> http://fl-tw.com/InfinityForums/viewtopic.php?p=122446#122446
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:50:00 -
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I don't know, but I'm sure trying that game when it's finished
Originally by: GM Tacgnol
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Exercitus Solus
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Posted - 2007.10.27 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: iiOs
Lets see how this turns out:D >>> http://fl-tw.com/InfinityForums/viewtopic.php?p=122446#122446
It may turn out in you getting banned from EVE for malicious intent towards EVE Online's reputation and appeal to new players.
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iiOs
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:00:00 -
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oh well, their mods r just as effective as our:P
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Verone
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: iiOs
Lets see how this turns out:D >>> http://fl-tw.com/InfinityForums/viewtopic.php?p=122446#122446
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Please tell me how a pirate-harboring, combat-encouraging, goldminer infested hell hole is better than Infinity.
Hmmm I dunno... lets see?
Perhaps because we can actually frigging play it?
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Exercitus Solus
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Posted - 2007.10.27 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: iiOs
Lets see how this turns out:D >>> http://fl-tw.com/InfinityForums/viewtopic.php?p=122446#122446
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Please tell me how a pirate-harboring, combat-encouraging, goldminer infested hell hole is better than Infinity.
Hmmm I dunno... lets see?
Perhaps because we can actually frigging play it?
Isn't that like saying something like "at least we can use our razor to cut ourselves"? 
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Cytech
Caldari
Fun Inc
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:04:00 -
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Quote:
Please tell me how a pirate-harboring, combat-encouraging, goldminer infested hell hole is better than Infinity.
its it just me or didnt he just list some of eves finest points?
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Asestorian
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:29:00 -
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combat-encouraging
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I'm failing to see how this is a bad point.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:33:00 -
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hah
that game will be a total flop
good luck to the people who waste their money on it
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Caiman Graystock
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:55:00 -
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Infinity, one guy and some random contributors, are going to build a bigger and better game than EVE? Good luck to them, it does look beautiful, but then I'm sure CCP devs could whip together equally as delicious tech demonstrations. Will that game live up to its promises, will it be more than pretty images and roleplay with no in-game mechanics beyond shooting other ships?
If it reaches gold, if it lives up to its own hype, if it gets hundreds of thousands of subscriptions and tens of thousands of players on the server at once, fantastic. Will someone eve mail me when that happens?
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Asestorian
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.10.27 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Caiman Graystock
If it reaches gold, if it lives up to its own hype, if it gets hundreds of thousands of subscriptions and tens of thousands of players on the server at once, fantastic. Will someone eve mail me when that happens?
No, because by the time that game is released EVE will have long since died after many, many years of service.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.27 22:23:00 -
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the company doesn't exist anymore, they will never make the game.
the only thing they have is the engine, and that is up for sale.
lets hope someone buys it.
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Valator Uel
Caldari
Pax Minor Asylum
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.10.27 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
the company doesn't exist anymore, they will never make the game.
the only thing they have is the engine, and that is up for sale.
lets hope someone buys it.
You're thinking about another game, The Jupiter Project or something.
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Jack'of'Diamonds
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Posted - 2007.10.28 02:55:00 -
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I think that was Nexus 2: the jupiter incident. That was good at the time.
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Valator Uel
Caldari
Pax Minor Asylum
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.10.28 03:06:00 -
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aha, I knew it had something to do with Jupiter .
Oh and to one of the posters above, the planet in the vid is not earth, just an earth-like planet to show the engine of the game. Go to their website to see more cool vids (there has been lots of advancement since that vid came out).
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Acinonyx Jubatus
Minmatar
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.28 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Acinonyx Jubatus on 28/10/2007 03:25:52
Look at their april fools area...
Linkage
Every line I went down/through I kept thinking "why do I feel..."
Just read this thread and sheesh... "mildly" interested in how this game would be, seeing all this mocking towards eve and such comments made me figure it's not worth it.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jack'of'Diamonds
Edited by: Jack''of''Diamonds on 26/10/2007 23:55:06
Linkage to video
Linkage to more video
Go away. I don't care about your twitch game that is vapor.
Thanks,
Karl
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Exercitus Solus
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
aha, I knew it had something to do with Jupiter .
It doesn't. Infinity has always been a completely separate game.
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Goca
KAOS.
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse X
"Development status:
The game is currently in early development, and no playable version has been released yet.
Estimated time before first playable release: 1 to 2 years (in best case). "
Expect at least 4 years until a Beta release.
sounds just like Eve
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Mr Bodacious
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby
So they have resurrected Decent FreeSpace as a MMO....
Seriously, its a FPS which is NOT what EvE is about. It might entice all the twitch players/WoW kiddies to go somewhere else and bring some tactics back to Eve though....
Umm. Since when do you have to be a wow kiddie to enjoy a bad-asp looking FPS game?
Personally, I will be looking to play that game soon as it comes out. Huxley is another one that looks f'in amazing.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Caiman Graystock
I'm sure they have banned many EVE players from their site. All they seem to do is mock EVE and the people who play it, that forum exudes arrogance on a scale even this one doesn't know. Yeah, give me a shout when they go gold and have 30,000 online.
Going gold? Imho, this game is vaporware. Its never going to get so far as a QA team let alone getting pressed.
Even if it weren't, and it is released in 4 to 6 years... I won't play it. I really don't want to play an MMO (not an MMOrpg as they've said) where its twitch and there is absolutely no character advancement beyond, "I just bought like 60 gizzilion of the game currency so now I can fly whatever I want."
BTW, to whomever linked this and is now spouting off about the "eve zealots" spamming the IQFE forums, how exactly is what you are doing here any different?
I anxiously await your reply.
-Karl
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.10.28 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Goca
Originally by: Synapse X
"Development status:
The game is currently in early development, and no playable version has been released yet.
Estimated time before first playable release: 1 to 2 years (in best case). "
Expect at least 4 years until a Beta release.
sounds just like Eve
Well since EVE-O is in its early development stages and you can't play, can I have your stuff. Its not like you can use it anyway. 
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.28 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: iiOs
Lets see how this turns out:D >>> http://fl-tw.com/InfinityForums/viewtopic.php?p=122446#122446
Quote:
Please tell me how a pirate-harboring, combat-encouraging, goldminer infested hell hole is better than Infinity.
Hmmm I dunno... lets see?
Perhaps because we can actually frigging play it?
Isn't that like saying something like "at least we can use our razor to cut ourselves"?
Better than a razor we can't use?
I mean if the intention would be to cut ourselves with a razor, the razor you can actually use would be better..
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DunamethaToutoPoiein
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.10.28 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: DunamethaToutoPoiein on 28/10/2007 11:43:14
Infinity looks very nice.
I would really like it if CPP introduced optional 'first person perspective' and 'landing on planets' in EVE.
However ...
Quote:
How long will the development last ? When are you planning to release it ?
The official release date is "when it's done". The beta might start in 2008, but it's just a rough estimation due to the fact we are working on it in our spare time.
... I'm kind of skeptical about how much they can achieve.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 12:48:00 -
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actually, I want the abillity to turn OFF ships and fancy effects on the fly. Sure it runs silky smooth when mission running, ratting and the like but in the few times I've been in space with 50 or so ships engaged in anything resembling combat, my system slows to a CRAWL. It isn't like my sytem is a slouch (Dual Core processor, 2x Gefore 7900's in SLI 3 GB ram) - eve just seems to chew up more resources than it's presentation would imply. Increasing that dramitically seems that it would exacerbate the current issue. But then again, I don't know how it well it will run - can't ever seem to get singularity to work.
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.28 12:52:00 -
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infinity looks cool but they don't seem to have any commercial sense, so it might flop not from being a bad game but from being poorly marketed
That'd be a shame as it looks like the devs there put in a lot of effort and enthusiasm, but could see it happening
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Stitcher
Caldari
legion of qui
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.28 13:05:00 -
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You know, people keep bringing up Infinity, as if it's some golden magical King of all Space Games that's going to blow EVE out of the sky.
It's not. It's a different game, aimed at a slightly different market. I just can't work up the enthusiasm for Infinity that I have maintained over EVE for the past two years.
So, pretty though it may be.... is it really necessary to bring it in here?
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.10.28 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: HandSoLow
Thing is though, that CAN NOT be Earth as Saturn is too close. Although, it could be Tiamat, a watery planet with some land, 5 times bigger than Earth and its close to Saturn, but then Tiamat got blown up 2,000 years ago LOL.
No such thing as Tiamat mate :) Its a made up planet.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.10.28 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cytech
Quote:
Please tell me how a pirate-harboring, combat-encouraging, goldminer infested hell hole is better than Infinity.
its it just me or didnt he just list some of eves finest points?
No, its not just you.
-Karl
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:39:00 -
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I tried to be slightly more productive than our friend iios and started a "diplomatic" thread here. I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
Originally by: MotherMoon
the company doesn't exist anymore, they will never make the game.
the only thing they have is the engine, and that is up for sale.
lets hope someone buys it.
You're thinking about another game, The Jupiter Project or something.
wait WTF!!!
they OP changed the videos to a different GAME!!!!!!!
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DunamethaToutoPoiein
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.10.28 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
I tried to be slightly more productive than our friend iios and started a "diplomatic" thread here. I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
Nice one.
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Arii Smith
Caldari
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.10.28 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: shupaco yaloo
looks good but will it be playable?
the eve graphics update will slaughter that game before it comes out because at the moment thats the only strong point going for it
any new games will have more bugs than eve and in that time eve can adjust itself to counter any other games strong points
That is pretty optimistic. I have played plenty of new games with less annoying bugs, glitches, and flaws than EVE. EVE is popular because there is no other spaceship MMO. I for one have no brand loyalty thanks to all the subpar service CCP has given me, and will switch as soon as something else as good comes out (and the bar is not high).
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Gamesguy
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.29 00:01:00 -
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Infinity is a carebear/solo player's dream. Infinite universe means you will never have to fight if you don't want to, and there's always more of the same territory for you to build on.
IMO it will be like playing sim city, IE get boring very fast. Its pretty to look at, but nothing you do has any real consequence. Somebody conquered your npc empire that you built by yourself(rofl at being able to do that)? No problem! Just fly for 10 minutes in a random direction and start a new one! It'll be a bunch of solo players or small groups of players carebearing to their heart's content. There will be runaway inflation because there are no real money sinks in that game and it will be farmer infested.
All that will matter is how much money you have in your wallet(which I'm sure 2 weeks after it comes out you can buy on ebay) and nothing else. Its the ultimate carebear land.
I for one see that as an extremely boring game. What good is building a giant empire with thousands of players(like people do in eve) if it has no impact whatsoever? People will simply run to some other part of the universe far away and enjoy the same benefits as you do even with all your teamwork and dedication.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.10.29 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
I tried to be slightly more productive than our friend iios and started a "diplomatic" thread here. I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
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Posted - 2007.10.29 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
So, would you REALLY want EVE to play like this ?
I mean, seriously, WOULD you ?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't want to have EVE handling like a bastard child of X-Wing and Descent.
maybe for flying frigs and cruisers 
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TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.29 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
So, would you REALLY want EVE to play like this ?
I mean, seriously, WOULD you ?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't want to have EVE handling like a bastard child of X-Wing and Descent.
Dude, I never would have guessed that my little video of the game would make it to the forums. 
As for my opinion on the game, I think it has potential. I find the combat prototype to be quite fun to get on and start blasting people, but I haven't played in quite some time. It is certainly an ambitious project, but last I checked it seems that only a handful of people are working on the game, which kinda makes me doubt that we will ever see it past the combat prototype stage anytime soon. The biggest worry of mine though is how would such gameplay lag in larger combat situations. Most games I have played have been about 5v5 at most and it plays pretty well, but I don't know how a 100 man fleet battle would be.
Also, as for the combat style being only proper for interceptors, I was flying an interceptor in that video. :)
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Posted - 2007.10.29 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 29/10/2007 03:03:19
Don't get me wrong, I LOVED both Descent and X-Wing, but that style is "wrong" for EVE.
I wouldn't even like EVE's interceptors to handle like that.
I mean, come on, with such controls, in EVE, an interceptor could actually (and almost always) take down pretty much any EVE ship
Infinity definetely has potential, but as a completely different gameplay style from EVE.
EVE is strategic gaming (a lot more emphasis on planning), Infinity is tactical gaming (a lot more emphasis on player skill).
Well, not quite like that, but you get the idea.
Those two don't mix well 
If/when Infinity comes out, I'll definetely play it too, for a quick match, or just enjoying the scenery.
However, my main focus will remain EVE. You know, where you think your moves days or months in advance, not a split second sooner. Heh.
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Posted - 2007.10.30 00:18:00 -
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Many of you that have answered have proably not even gone throughmost of the development and gameplay forum area. The game engine is almost complete (i think) and the dev team is about to start work on gameplay. Beta is supposed to start in late 08 (i think, not 100% sure). Those of you who say that its going to be a carebear land, isnt eve? you have highsec to mine to your earts cnsent with no worries of getting bown up. In infinity, if you go way out into the edge of the galaxy...fine, but pirates can hunt you down, and you have to pay for fuel to go back and forth to cre worlds and the tme (probably hours) going back and forth. And there probably will be no lag issues. Those that commented on the lag issues did not read much of the foums. Read this: The whole galaxy is PROCEDURALY GENERATED. That means all of the objects, besides ships and stations will not be a load on the server. So that leaves more room for larger fleet battles. The game i promising, even if the dev team is small, I believe it WILL take time. Infinity is not just a game of pretty scenery and a giant carebear lagfest. And remember that eve isnt perfect either, its got lots (tons) of problems too.
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Posted - 2007.10.30 13:10:00 -
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That is a pretty demo video, and the seamless flight from space to orbit to planet side was nicely done. I'd love to see more of what they have planned and wish them good luck in getting the game completed. They have a long road in front of them.
It will be nice to have another Sci-fi title in the MMO market. There are so many fantasy MMOs available, Sci-fi tends to be relegated to the background. Another title will bring more awareness to this little corner of the genre.
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Posted - 2007.10.30 13:22:00 -
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When's that coming out, i may take a peak.
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Posted - 2007.10.30 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Saint Luka
When's that coming out, i may take a peak.
I'd say never TBH
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Posted - 2007.10.30 14:03:00 -
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I'm also willing to test any other space-ship game around...
At worst it will make Eve better. Competition will force the devs to change things, and other games are an good source of inspiration for improvement.
Let's hope it goes gold someday...
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Posted - 2007.10.30 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
That is a pretty demo video.....*demonic voice* BUT WE WILL CRUSH YOU! *end voice* Good luck!
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Asestorian
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.10.30 14:26:00 -
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This game will be rubbish if it's released because they don't want vertical ships.
NO VERTICAL = FAIL 
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Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.30 23:10:00 -
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Sorry to quote myself, but regarding this:
Originally by: DunamethaToutoPoiein
Quote:
[infinity faq:]
How long will the development last ? When are you planning to release it ?
The official release date is "when it's done". The beta might start in 2008, but it's just a rough estimation due to the fact we are working on it in our spare time.
... I'm kind of skeptical about how much they can achieve. Strangely, they are currently not looking for additional programmers.
I've been told that 'our spare time' means 40+ hours a week, which I find quite encouraging !
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Posted - 2007.10.30 23:18:00 -
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Quote:
Please tell me how a pirate-harboring, combat-encouraging, goldminer infested hell hole is better than Infinity.
Posts like that remind me why I like EVE. Sucks to be those people who cant handle it.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:34:00 -
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This thread looks like a thinly veiled advertisement for an independent MMO project posted on a forum for likely player candidates.
Let me also add that the game looks like junk.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy Blue on 31/10/2007 00:41:48
EVE is focused much more on pvp, whether the devs wanted it that way or not, it is. Infinity is trying to be focused on a much broader area. Of course I have a feeling tht pvp will be the dominate force in Infinity.
And how do you know if the game will never come out? I think the game engine is almost done, and if thats finshed I highly doubt the game will wimper out if they only need to implement the gameplay.
The main programmer doesnt want any more help, because he needs to spend the time updating the new programmer on ALL that hes done so the new programmer ca get aquianted with the engine. And he has to check onhim to make sure hes not straying off the "path".
The one thing that EVE has as an advantage over Infinity is that EVE will have walking in station implemented. (Right?) This will probably be balanced by landing on planets in Infinity though.
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Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Tarminic
I tried to be slightly more productive than our friend iios and started a "diplomatic" thread here. I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
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Agif
Templar Republic
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:16:00 -
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Well with all the stupid nerfs lately i for one have been tracking INFINITY for a long time now and have also joined the beta testing. If CCP dont sort them selves out i will be switching over to play infinity as its everything EVE lacks.
+ The fact it will be free and also its player designed which means we get the choice on what gets developed. Not a rant just pointing out a few things maybe CCP shud be looking at...
Also that combat video was a beta and i can tell you alot has changed since.
just my 2C
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Malik Justiciar
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:21:00 -
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Where is the love?
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:23:00 -
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I fully support unleashing tarmy on other forums
we can call it Tarmigeddon
I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Agif
...also its player designed which means we get the choice on what gets developed.
Oh God, and I thought the whines on these forums were bad.
You know what's worse than not having a direct say in what gets developed?
Thinking you have a say in what's going to happen, then being out-whined by another group who wants it their way, then them getting their way with every decision.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Agif
Well with all the stupid nerfs lately i for one have been tracking INFINITY for a long time now and have also joined the beta testing. If CCP dont sort them selves out i will be switching over to play infinity as its everything EVE lacks.
+ The fact it will be free and also its player designed which means we get the choice on what gets developed. Not a rant just pointing out a few things maybe CCP shud be looking at...
Also that combat video was a beta and i can tell you alot has changed since.
just my 2C
First of all you are not signed up for a beta, beta testing wont start until at least next year. You are playing the combat prototype. And the game will NOT be free, dont try to get everyone's hopes up.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Infinity is a carebear/solo player's dream. Infinite universe means you will never have to fight if you don't want to, and there's always more of the same territory for you to build on.
IMO it will be like playing sim city, IE get boring very fast. Its pretty to look at, but nothing you do has any real consequence. Somebody conquered your npc empire that you built by yourself(rofl at being able to do that)? No problem! Just fly for 10 minutes in a random direction and start a new one! It'll be a bunch of solo players or small groups of players carebearing to their heart's content. There will be runaway inflation because there are no real money sinks in that game and it will be farmer infested.
All that will matter is how much money you have in your wallet(which I'm sure 2 weeks after it comes out you can buy on ebay) and nothing else. Its the ultimate carebear land.
I for one see that as an extremely boring game. What good is building a giant empire with thousands of players(like people do in eve) if it has no impact whatsoever? People will simply run to some other part of the universe far away and enjoy the same benefits as you do even with all your teamwork and dedication.
spot on
great summary there bloke
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy Blue on 31/10/2007 02:24:03
Originally by: Lupus Andari
Many of you that have answered have proably not even gone throughmost of the development and gameplay forum area. The game engine is almost complete (i think) and the dev team is about to start work on gameplay. Beta is supposed to start in late 08 (i think, not 100% sure). Those of you who say that its going to be a carebear land, isnt eve? you have highsec to mine to your earts cnsent with no worries of getting bown up. In infinity, if you go way out into the edge of the galaxy...fine, but pirates can hunt you down, and you have to pay for fuel to go back and forth to cre worlds and the tme (probably hours) going back and forth. And there probably will be no lag issues. Those that commented on the lag issues did not read much of the foums. Read this: The whole galaxy is PROCEDURALY GENERATED. That means all of the objects, besides ships and stations will not be a load on the server. So that leaves more room for larger fleet battles. The game i promising, even if the dev team is small, I believe it WILL take time. Infinity is not just a game of pretty scenery and a giant carebear lagfest. And remember that eve isnt perfect either, its got lots (tons) of problems too.
It will not just depend on how much money you have. So what if you buy a flamberge (dreadnought)? You get in it, seee its pretty awsome fit guns on it get some fighters, and go kill people.
2 things will either happen:
1. You die because of lack of skills (personal skills. You were the idiot that tried to buy his way into the game.
2. You are not a complete noob, you survive and kill people. Nextday you are in debt because of shhip/crew/fuel costs. YES THEY HAVE COSTS TO OWN A SHIP.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
So, would you REALLY want EVE to play like this ?
I mean, seriously, WOULD you ?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't want to have EVE handling like a bastard child of X-Wing and Descent.
i dont think anyone said anything about wanting their combat engine, perhaps you should stfu once in a while?
Id prefer the graphics engine of infinity over the current eve one, tbh. So you, stfu with your "is this what you want"-induced whines....
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:04:00 -
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Agreed.If we could integrate Infinity's engine into EVE, Infinity would have trouble keeping up with EVE. It would then be a twitch vs. point + click style of gsameplay that people have to choose between. I personally would go for Infinity.
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Cavtrooper
Caldari
Greenspring
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:42:00 -
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Wow that was a pretty sweet video!
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Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:43:00 -
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That Infinity Combat thing reminds me of Vendetta Online.
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Baleur
Miners In Barges
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Baleur on 31/10/2007 05:19:24
Originally by: CCP kieron
That is a pretty demo video, and the seamless flight from space to orbit to planet side was nicely done. I'd love to see more of what they have planned and wish them good luck in getting the game completed. They have a long road in front of them.
It will be nice to have another Sci-fi title in the MMO market. There are so many fantasy MMOs available, Sci-fi tends to be relegated to the background. Another title will bring more awareness to this little corner of the genre.
Its never gonna be released, and its certainly never gonna go gold as in be shipped by a publisher to thousands of customers.. And even if it does, its certainly never gonna have the neccecary funds/help to get the huge server hardware needed, or even simple mainteance and stuff.
Its 1 dude working on it.. Yeah thats right, 1 guy.. Because he didnt want other people to "interfere" with his "vision for the game" or something.. Idiotic in my opinion.
CCP need not worry.
And secondly, the guy has only worked on the engine, for years now, almost nothing else has happened. There is no game what so ever, except for the Combat Prototype.
He like works on procedurally generated planets that you can land on, and its looking great. But then he discovers DX10, so then he has to try some dx10 stuff and add some HDR and stuff. And then he figures, hey the planets could be a bit more detailed, hey what about overhanging cliffs?!
And so ****in on! By the time he has finished with one engine-feature, such long time has passed that its already obsolete, and he starts doing it all over again.
Ive been following that game for 2 years, and NOTHING has happened lol.
There are no items, no interface, no functional stuff what so ever.
Look at EVE, it has thousands and thousands of items, functional enviroments (harvestable moons and asteroids, refinable ore etc etc etc manufacturing blueprints etc).
If that guy would sell his idea/thing to a company, i dunno, like THQ, Bioware (makers of mass effect), Egosoft (makers of x3 reunion) or whatever, this game could actually become a reality.
Because even tough i know nothing of game development, i still understand that if you have a 200 man team things that could take 10 years for 1 guy can be done in 1, and at a much better end result.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:04:00 -
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He is not the only person working on the game. He is the main programmer and there are 7-10 other devs working on it. At one point he will say, enough is enough, and leave the game engine and work on the gameplay features. When they finish the game, he will probably then go back and update the game engine.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Infinity is a carebear/solo player's dream. Infinite universe means you will never have to fight if you don't want to, and there's always more of the same territory for you to build on.
IMO it will be like playing sim city, IE get boring very fast. Its pretty to look at, but nothing you do has any real consequence. Somebody conquered your npc empire that you built by yourself(rofl at being able to do that)? No problem! Just fly for 10 minutes in a random direction and start a new one! It'll be a bunch of solo players or small groups of players carebearing to their heart's content. There will be runaway inflation because there are no real money sinks in that game and it will be farmer infested.
All that will matter is how much money you have in your wallet(which I'm sure 2 weeks after it comes out you can buy on ebay) and nothing else. Its the ultimate carebear land.
I for one see that as an extremely boring game. What good is building a giant empire with thousands of players(like people do in eve) if it has no impact whatsoever? People will simply run to some other part of the universe far away and enjoy the same benefits as you do even with all your teamwork and dedication.
You can't know that. Areas in the Galaxy are not created equal, and if you own a good one, the next comparable spot might be hundreds of light years away. Plus you actually have to find it first, which will be a challenge in its own right. Once you found it, it's vulnerable.
Running is an option in Eve too - you will always find a new alliance or can rent space, or join new or old allies. In Eve, you can go anywhere in 0.0 and expect to be able to support your corp or alliance. In Infinity, you have no idea where the Crokite is.
The logistical train in Infinity is somewhat different to Eve, namely that all ships have running costs and need fuel. If you don't find an area for your new empire that a) pays the bills and b) is close enough to the core you have to go to "empire" all the same. Go too far out, and you will waste your time with hauling your crap out there, and not doing anything else. Chances are you will also have to go through somebody else's space.
Where everything depends on money, you need to think much more economically. You won't find pirates with bounties in every belt to give you ready money, you won't even find resources in every belt. It's pure supply and demand, and money sinks like running costs, crew wages etc., are planned.
This is not carebear central. For example, no high sec will exist in Infinity, it's all lowsec or 0.0. The possible exceptions are the immediate environs of newbie starting points. In other words, 3 or 4 solar systems out of 200 billion. Pirates will be able get into "empires", gank the carebears and fly out into "0.0", with the destruction of the pirate not at all guaranteed. It will be pretty difficult though in more secure systems. There will be no safety. Nowhere. For good pilots, it's ganker's delight. If you accept the consequences.
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Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
I fully support unleashing tarmy on other forums
we can call it Tarmigeddon
Win. I'm sigifying this.
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we can call it Tarmigeddon
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
So, would you REALLY want EVE to play like this ?
I mean, seriously, WOULD you ?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't want to have EVE handling like a bastard child of X-Wing and Descent.
For a BS.. Not so much. But for an inty/Frig, that might be fun :)
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Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:31:00 -
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Am I the only one who thought that, though the reflections were sorta cool, that those videos were pretty bad looking? The art design seemed terrible. So no, I would not want EVE to look like that.
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northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Originally by: Caiman Graystock
If it reaches gold, if it lives up to its own hype, if it gets hundreds of thousands of subscriptions and tens of thousands of players on the server at once, fantastic. Will someone eve mail me when that happens?
No, because by the time that game is released EVE will have long since died after many, many years of service.
NOOO dont say that! YOU MADE ME ANGRY!!! EVE WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!
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Caldari
Moonlight Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:55:00 -
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If im not mistaken thats a mod for freelancer. Its been in development for a long time.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:21:00 -
[96]
You are mistaken. Read Infinity's forum before posting please. That goes for everyone that posts here.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:26:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
I fully support unleashing tarmy on other forums
we can call it Tarmigeddon
Win. I'm sigifying this.
My hero
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Efernal
Caldari
Moonlight Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.02 16:27:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Tommy Blue
You are mistaken. Read Infinity's forum before posting please. That goes for everyone that posts here.
No need to be a jerk. There was a mod for freelancer 2 years ago that was in development with the same name. It also looked very good but havent herd anything about it since that time.
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Tommy Blue
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Posted - 2007.11.06 02:16:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Efernal
Originally by: Tommy Blue
You are mistaken. Read Infinity's forum before posting please. That goes for everyone that posts here.
No need to be a jerk. There was a mod for freelancer 2 years ago that was in development with the same name. It also looked very good but havent herd anything about it since that time.
How was I being a jerk. I told you that Infinity was not a mod for freelancer, and made sure that people read their forums so they didnt have to post here. Wasted space.
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