Actually, I would argue that many highsec dwellers are passionate about the game. I've met many. Lack of representation of highsec is not due to the populations habits as much as it is to do with the lack of resources and cohesion.

But, even if highsec did have solidarity, how long do you believe it would be before nullsec starts buying votes with their moongoo?

It's all rather pointless to even consider the issue with highsec representation until CCP makes a more formal organization of it and its execution. Until then participation by highsec members is wasted effort as they could never control the amount of wealth that nullsec does. Any cooperative effort by highsec to pool resources to do so will only result in mass scamming.

I'm not at all convinced that there's less money in hi-sec hands than there is in moon goo.

I've been in the CSM twice and was a High Sec candidate. I still am a High Sec candidate. In fact I am trying to build a political party for High Sec candidates.

That worked out really well last time, I hear.

Well, just get someone with a Pro High-Sec campaign and see how many supporters/voters he/she gets.

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Yeah be voter participation to rebuild those npc corps for them to go back into.

be excellent to each other.



and yet i cant help feeling that a simple mechanic as you log in, eg:

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WE ARE CONSIDERING BALANCING INCURSIONS, DO YOU AGREE THAT WE SHOULD?

lots of info regarding reasons for and against goes here.

[ ] YES

[ ] NO

[ ] DONT CARE

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would work a million times better than some showcase free-holidayathon like the current situation.

Before you **** on my bonfire about this you should know I dont care either way im all EvEd out atm, just throwing stuff out there while im still around

I can't answer specifically to the point. However, I would say that while there might be more isk (which I doubt) overall in HS, how many hands hold that isk? This goes back to cohesion and the lack of it in HS. Individually, even in small groups hs cannot compete financially with individuals in null.

Because people who play in high sec and who aren't alts of any other group aren't as passionate about the game.
And being passionate about the game is needed to become a CSM representative.. it's additional stress and work besides playing this game, which even after you did it to the best of your knowledge and ability in 90% of the cases earns you mockery and verbal abuse. For people who are just playing casually this is not feasible.
So the only ones, who rally for CSM and take the downsides are those who get something out of it for their group.

It's funny though.. a very large group, composed of casual players has no voice because of the nature of it's members.

Direct democracy is a terrible idea, even in EVE, for anything beyond the most general consensus of direction.

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WE ARE CONSIDERING GIVING EVERYONE 1 BILLION ISK EVERY FRIDAY, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD?

[X] YES

[ ] NO

[X] LOL

i did not suggest direct democracy, i suggested a consultation excercise. Instead of consulting the csm (and their personal/corp/alliance agendas) over these ideas then working with the feedback you are consulting everyone that logs in over a certain period. These people also have agendas and block voting is still possible.

a form of government in which people vote on policy initiatives directly, as opposed to a representative democracy in which people vote for representatives who then vote on policy initiatives

I can't answer specifically to the point. However, I would say that while there might be more isk (which I doubt) overall in HS, how many hands hold that isk? This goes back to cohesion and the lack of it in HS. Individually, even in small groups hs cannot compete financially with individuals in null.

I'm reasonably sure that the richest individuals in the game mostly operate in hi-sec.

I've also yet to see a convincing argument (that means ones with evidence and causal chains that don't involve lizard-people beaming mind-rays from their moonbase) that in game wealth affects CSM elections.

lol - are you running for csm, an alt of someone running for csm, a current csm alt, or just plain trolling? I guess they are all the same thing.

the context of your counter argument makes no sense and only serves to radically move the context of the original idea, as was no doubt your intention.

i did not suggest direct democracy, i suggested a consultation excercise. Instead of consulting the csm (and their personal/corp/alliance agendas) over these ideas then working with the feedback you are consulting everyone that logs in over a certain period. These people also have agendas and block voting is still possible.

technology allows us to quickly survey the views of an entire playerbase of major issues - ticking a box would certainly beat pew-pewing a statue in jita in terms of press coverage.

an argument to preserve the status quo here is an argument to keep the powerbase the same and that says a lot more about you and your motives than it does about the good or badness of my suggestion.

please do get an answer together - make sure you multiple quote and retort, or maybe take a little bit and quote out of context - you could even just attack the person instead of the argument. Whatever it is, good luck with that.

Carebears are not famous. Like me. Hate being a carebear

i did not suggest direct democracy, i suggested a consultation excercise. Instead of consulting the csm (and their personal/corp/alliance agendas) over these ideas then working with the feedback you are consulting everyone that logs in over a certain period. These people also have agendas and block voting is still possible.