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xebian	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:30:00 - [1] Ok so why is it that most people on here hate wow? please can enyone give 10 good reasons why to hate wow i mean its a decent game in its self well i think so? so why all the wow haters?
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:31:00 - [2] Edited by: DubanFP on 02/11/2007 16:31:28 There's only 1 real reason, but it's a good one. Way too many people "not nessissarily all, but many" come to EVE expecting it to be WoW-like. Then come to the forums to whine when they get PWNT by someone more experienced. Day-in Day-out, Day-in Day-out. Wouldn't you start to hate them too? ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
duffmantt Dragonian Freelancers KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:31:00 - [3] Could you give me ten good reasons to play the game? no, i agree, eve and wow are completely different games, its like comparing a car to an aeroplane. everyone likes their own thing, i played wow and kindof enjoyed it, i think its a good game, it just doesnt have any longetivity or good pvp. What we do in Eve, Echoes in eternity...
Alz Shado Ever Flow	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:33:00 - [4] WOW is a brightly polished and smoothened turd. EVE is a fine gem with sharp edges. I like the edges.
Arctur Gestator	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:34:00 - [5] Why do i need 10 reasons to hate it ? I dont hate WoW i hate some players it produces. I dont like its graphics and game system. I dont play it so i dont judge it. _________________________ Adapt or STFU
Barbens	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:34:00 - [6] Because you can hop into WoW, and start smashing things, leveling, and what not without any real effort. This game requires some brain power, instead of just 'smashy smashy'. If you like that kind of game, then great, but if you want to use some brain power then this is your game. Not to mention the populace of WoW is generally 12 year olds, with little to no maturity. BaRbEnS
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:34:00 - [7] I think the main reason why a lot of ppl here dislike WOW is not so much for the game itself but for the audience it draws. Ppl here are generally a bit older and get tired really quick of l33t kiddies harrashing eachother.
xebian	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:36:00 - [8] Ya i do see ya points very well put across great.
Trent0r Caldari Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:40:00 - [9] I hate WoW because it destroys lives. Go to google and read about some of the massive addiction cases that WoW has produced. Kids these days aren't appreciating strong moral values, thus they turn to videogames and waste their lives away. EVE is a great example of a well balanced videogame, I have heard of addiction cases causing problems in lives, but not NEARLY to the extent that WoW has created. Not to mention whenever I say to someone that I play an MMO they IMMEDIATLY go, "omg you play world of lagcraft?". It has TAKEN over the MMO industry, and therefore it is the generic standard that everyone bases mmo's off of.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:40:00 - [10] The whole age thing is just numbers and "supposed". But, the bottom line is, EVE does some things better, WOW does other things better, EVE is fantasy, WOW is space-flight...no wait...anyway! Different worlds, and in the basis, it's the same MMO style in different wrapping. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Oron	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:49:00 - [11] Edited by: Oron on 02/11/2007 16:51:15 WoW had a degenerating effect on the MMORPG community. Before WoW we where relative few ppl, we had our fair shares of jerks, but it was generaly a very nice place to be. WoW flooded the MMORPG community with more ppl then we could assimilate. PPl who had no clue about our social conduct, ppl who where in general far younger than we are, ppl who where real noobs - MMORPG first-timers. Naturaly they missbehaved in many, many aspects of the social life in a MMORPG. Just think about all the need-before-greed rand on the early WoW boards and the running "Its for Hunters!" gag to get a very small clue. Because the first MMORPG you ever play somehow fix your expectations (nothing ever can beat the first few levels on your first character - everything looks shiny and magical) those massive ammount of ppl has and will continue to have a hugh, overhelming impact on the development of new games. Try go to one of the Beta Forums today and ask about Permadeath or other Hardcore challenges - you get just wtfpwned. (well you you got pwned at all times - but the wtf makes the different). I dont hate WoW because it is a bad game - in fact it is well done in many factors, and enjoyable to play for some levels (tho it get boring really fast if you play MMORPGs since UO like me). I do hate WoW because it - in my eyes - ruined the community wich was my virtual home.
War Fairy	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:50:00 - [12] Why don't I like WoW? There's not a single piece of innovation in the game. For example the crafting and trait systems are 7-9 years old. They're identical to EQ and Diablo from the 90s. It looks shiny and plays well but there's nothing new in it. Also the fact that it installs a root kit bothers me. Why don't I like WoW players? Mainly because they come and whine about PvP. They're used to hiding behind their flag based system. They're used to being able to grind XP. All PvP all the time and no grind are what I like about this game.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Oron WoW had a degenerating effect on the MMORPG community. Before WoW we where relative few ppl, we had our fair shares of jerks, but it was generaly a very nice place to be. WoW flooded the MMORPG community with more ppl then we could assimilate. PPl who had no clue about our social conduct, ppl who where in general far younger than we are, ppl who where real noobs - MMORPG first-timers. Because the first MMORPG you ever play somehow fix your expectations (nothing ever can beat the first few levels on your first character - everything looks shiny and magical) those massive ammount of ppl has and will continue to have a hugh, overhelming impact on the development of new games. Try go to one of the Beta Forums today and ask about Permadeath or other Hardcore challenges - you get just wtfpwned. (well you you got pwned at all times - but the wtf makes the different). I dont hate WoW because it is a bad game - in fact it is well done in many factors, and enjoyable to play for some levels (tho it get boring really fast if you play MMORPGs since UO like me). I do hate WoW because it - in my eyes - ruined the community wich was my virtual home. Heh... kinda like AOL vs the internet. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
War Fairy	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:53:00 - [14] Edited by: War Fairy on 02/11/2007 16:54:27 Originally by: Trent0r I hate WoW because it destroys lives. Go to google and read about some of the massive addiction cases that WoW has produced. Kids these days aren't appreciating strong moral values, thus they turn to videogames and waste their lives away. You can find these stories for any MMPOG. Before MMPOGs people did it with MUDs. There are always unbalanced people in the world. What's the difference between spending 12 hours a day building train sets and 12 hours a day in EvE? The flavor of crazy. EDIT: Typo
Oron	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Malcanis Heh... kinda like AOL vs the internet. Yea, kinda! Good analogy!
Lacranora Gallente Pagan Rites Corp	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:59:00 - [16] my wife is addicted to WoW. She comes home from work, eats, then logs on....for the next 4 hours. M-F Then the weekend hits and she slams down 10 hour days on it, unless I start complaining she would put in more time if she could. Past that, WoW was fun for about a week....then it got old really fast. Always looking for new players, as we are a new player Corporation. Check out the site and let us know. http://paganrites.x10hosting.com
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:01:00 - [17] I dont hate WoW, I even played it for a bit because I wanted to see what leading raids was like. I do find it highly amusing when people come from WoW to eve and just cant handle it. For many people WoW was there first MMO and they expect them all to follow the same pattern, though it does get a bit annoying with all the "we need arenas!", "omg i got ganked in safe space", "pirates are skilless griefz0rz" threads ect... For me EVE harked back to the older MMO's infested with PK'ers, my sort of game. Hence I feel above the carebear masses playing there raiding games :)
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:02:00 - [18] Also, one BIG issue people have is... They think EVE is so much more innovative and "excellent" My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Umbra Lee	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:02:00 - [19] Clearly you have yet to see the lost commandments. Commandment 11 Thou shalt never speaketh the word lol in real life Commandment 12 Thou shalt bogart the doritoes Commandment 13 Thou shalt fear the sun Commandment 14 Thou shalt never play WoW Commandment 15 Thou shalt giveth your iskies to me
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:02:00 - [20] WoW does for pve what EVE does for pvp. in WoW there is an endless supply of questing and other fun NPC related activities. in EVE there is an endless supply of other people's ships to blow up, or if you arent a fighter there is cornering certain markets in the economy.(and yes in EVE i consider being an industrialist a form of pvp as the market can be nasty, and sometimes evolve into combat pvp) i should have pvped more when i played EVE full time, if i get back into EVE full time i think ill find an 0.0 corp that needs someone who understands back end logistics.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:03:00 - [21] WoW is for five year olds. ** your WoW you **ing ****. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:03:00 - [22] Simple eve player's are mostly 20+ WOW player's mostly 10-15 year old's and it just don't mix well. 10-15 year old's come and whine and cry that eve is to hard or people are mean to them and it drive's us all up the dam wall. wow player's are ok as long as they don't forget that wow stops once you leave there fourms/game sever's and that no one want's you to compair every other game to it. I am not a fan of wow my self i played it and i got bored in 10 mins it just seem to lack any deepth for me unlike eve. EVE is nice and dark a harsh mmo that follow's simple rule's like you make another player mad he will just war dec you and blow your ass away evey time he can find you. !
Beor0d Congregatio Solidus Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:04:00 - [23] Edited by: Beor0d on 02/11/2007 17:05:34 I played WoW for about 6 months excluding beta and it was quite a good game which made alot of fun until you reached lvl60 and had everything you want. EVE has a few big advantages among all other MMOs 1: the skill system, you can't get everything in a few weeks so it has a big long time factor. 2: the setting, its sci-fi space pew pew. Every popular MMO is based on Fantasy except EVE and that makes it unique. 3: The community, one the best AND i think most them are not under 16 like in WoW ^^ 4: Less powergaming 5: Huge world The game itself doesn't "end" like WoW does when you finished everything and the game itself is for free, all expansions are for free and even a GTC is cheaper than in WoW _______________________ hmmm....
Meiko Akumari	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:13:00 - [24] This comes from a hardcore wow'er. I played wow for almost 2 years, thinking i enjoyed every minute of it. but in the end when push came to shove and i lookedback i hadnt done diddle doo and still felt like i didnt get jack done. wow is a game designed to be majorly addictive with a rewards based system. so you always want to get whats better then there average joe. at least on here within about a week or so you can be pretty decent at what your doing as long as you chose the right skills to train and have more then 2 brains cells to operate on. another thing i distaste about wow is their customer/tech support. blizzard has got to be one of the worst companies in the world they might as well switch to dell tech support in india at least i would understand why im not getting much help from them. another then is that wow is 100% gear based and not skill based. so who ever raids more and has the most l33t gear is the baddest mofo around. last but not least there is about 20000 little kids in that game that sound like little girls and cry like babies over the dumbest of things. i can go on for days for reasons why i dont like wow.
Amuko Amarr Happy Little Roid Huggers	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:14:00 - [25] Mods should sticky one wow vs eve thread, because these pop up way too often. Even if you didn't mean to start such a thread, it will end in one.
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:41:00 - [26] Originally by: Meiko Akumari This comes from a hardcore wow'er. I played wow for almost 2 years, thinking i enjoyed every minute of it. but in the end when push came to shove and i lookedback i hadnt done diddle doo and still felt like i didnt get jack done. wow is a game designed to be majorly addictive with a rewards based system. so you always want to get whats better then there average joe. at least on here within about a week or so you can be pretty decent at what your doing as long as you chose the right skills to train and have more then 2 brains cells to operate on. another thing i distaste about wow is their customer/tech support. blizzard has got to be one of the worst companies in the world they might as well switch to dell tech support in india at least i would understand why im not getting much help from them. another then is that wow is 100% gear based and not skill based. so who ever raids more and has the most l33t gear is the baddest mofo around. last but not least there is about 20000 little kids in that game that sound like little girls and cry like babies over the dumbest of things. i can go on for days for reasons why i dont like wow. Oh yea, blizzard blows. ----------------- Friends Forever Kill. BoB. Dead.
Anwylyd Al'Vos Minmatar LightSpeed Industries	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:50:00 - [27] Originally by: xebian Ok so why is it that most people on here hate wow? please can enyone give 10 good reasons why to hate wow i mean its a decent game in its self well i think so? so why all the wow haters? 1- too easy (maxed a toon in 5 weeks) 2- no skill involved (bought me some gold and got 1337) 3- boring (beat end game stuff once and its all been done) 4- cartoon (cheese looks, EQ2 much prettier) 5- juvenile player base 6- juvenile player base 7- juvenile player base 8- juvenile player base 9- juvenile player base 10- and last but not least... juvenile player base (eve attracts more mentally mature players -save for the goon/bob situation- and requires thought, tactics, and real world like options for excelling) _ . - Justice, Mercy, and Faith My soul has horizons further away than those of early mornings, deeper darkness than the night
Sweetpain Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:52:00 - [28] people dont hate wow, even if they say it. What they really hate is the linear game type wow represent compared to eve. in wow there is a start and for many an end (highest level) then after the end the real game starts, player domination (pvp) or Raiding (high end content) Eve is different, In Eve there is a start then emidiately the end game starts. Eve have no restrictions you can partisipate in the raids ( fleet battles ) on day 1 if you want to and no game mechanics would prevent you from doing so (level restrictions) It's like comparing darkness to light.
Dretzle Omega Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Lacranora my wife is addicted to WoW. She comes home from work, eats, then logs on....for the next 4 hours. M-F Then the weekend hits and she slams down 10 hour days on it, unless I start complaining she would put in more time if she could. Past that, WoW was fun for about a week....then it got old really fast. Heh, almost sounds like my addiction to Eve. :) Though my wife and I have something of an agreement: when she's awake and at home, I don't play Eve (unless she's also doing one of her addictions :) ).
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:58:00 - [30] About the "kid" situation: Millions of players in WOW. 30k in EVE. About... So the 500 kids we got in EVE, are about in the same amount of the playerbase, equally spread, as we have here. Except for one thing. EVE players say they are more mature, when infact they think they are supreme, yet act like little children. Doesn't apply to all, as does not the wow-kids comparison. WOW is, without a doubt, highly succesful, good in it's own genre of MMO. And EVE, as the sole adversary really, in this genre of MMO, is good. I wouldn't want Blizzard to make a space MMO to compete against EVE, as you might notice soon enough that it would "roxor the boxor". My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

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