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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:02:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:If they were using this solely to gank targets I say awesome....but room for accounts to be hacked is too great and is inappropriate Good thing, then, that no such room is offered by the API. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
319
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:02:00 -
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And I thought the vodka thread was bad. http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:04:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? I didn't know this.
Care to point me towards one?
this functionality would be really helpful to me but so far I have been subject to the asset list's 6 hours cache timer... |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:04:00 -
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If someone was actually to finish the sentence in a reasonable way...
"We need to know your complete list of assets because......."
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:05:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? I didn't know this. Care to point me towards one? this functionality would be really helpful to me but so far I have been subject to the asset list's 6 hours cache timer...
http://api.eve-dev.com/index.html
realtime asset tracking
So with API you will know where that jump freighter full of plexes is....more so you would also know persons ship fitting.... |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:07:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? I didn't know this. Care to point me towards one? this functionality would be really helpful to me but so far I have been subject to the asset list's 6 hours cache timer... http://api.eve-dev.com/index.htmlrealtime asset tracking reading comprehension...
you only can get fresh asset data via API once every 6 hours - every application that uses the API is subject to this limitation.
of course you can retrieve the outdated data again and again and again... but it should be pretty obvious that this is in no way "real-time"
real-time asset tracking is impossible using the EVE API. |
Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
789
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:08:00 -
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What I don't understand: If you distrust them so much...why the hell do you want to join them? -.- |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:09:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Centurion Utama wrote:Wow, people on the forums really are stupid, if you have a good password and sufficient security measures in place you'll be reasonably safe as well as if you change your password regularly and scan your computers for keyloggers regularly. Plus even a full API key won't let anyone hack your account since it only gives your character name not your account name, so unless you are a complete ****** and use your character name for your account name you will be just fine. You are clueless about how to hack an account - much easier then you think....API just lets you know what account is worth the effort.
my password I have used is so far... is 24 months running of a cracker still havent been broken and the computer tests about a million passwords an hour.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:09:00 -
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You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:11:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site Ok. GÇ£The above URL gives you output that is exactly what CCP gives youGÇ¥
I.e. subject to the 6h cache. Not real-time.
Quote:ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list You've already been given it: for the same reason everyone else asks for it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:12:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list I can assure you that I am right.
All that this caching proxy does is give me the old data again instead of returning a "try again in x hours" notice after the first try.
That's really useful when you have multiple applications that need to access an API page with long cache style (actually used a self-hosted API proxy for that reason when I still did trading) but it doesn't help at all with real-time tracking.
You can get fresh data once every 6 hours.
You are pushing the button to get the 0-6 hours old data again and again and again.... and tell yourself that the data you received is new and real-time.
But if you want to, go ahead and post a thread in technology lab - should clear the issue up fairly quickly. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:12:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list
We don't require members or allies to register for comms with their main characters. If anyone wants to use an alt on a different account, they're free to do so. andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:13:00 -
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I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list.
There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list.
PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED....STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:15:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list.
There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list.
PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED....STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT
Why the hell do you care? You're not in GSF or the CFC. andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:15:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list We don't require members or allies to register for comms with their main characters. If anyone wants to use an alt on a different account, they're free to do so.
this is a nonsense answer and is shady at best |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:16:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list.
There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list.
PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED....STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT Why the hell do you care? You're not in GSF or the CFC.
Carebears care...please stop trying to change subject...
and I am in the CFC what now?
Please provide valid reason why goons need complete list of my assets
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:17:00 -
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okay, if you're in the CFC just drop corp, nobody wants your pubbie ass around andski for csm7~ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:19:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list. Good for you. That doesn't change the fact that there are quite a few who's asking for it.
Quote:There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list. Sure there is. Your reluctance to give it up, alone, is a compelling reason.
Quote:PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED. For the same reason as everyone else. Oh, and as noted, it's not required in any meaningful way. That doesn't really answer the question: why do you care? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:20:00 -
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lulz....
Please provide answer as to why goons needs anyones complete asset list...also please provide answer as to why resorting to grade school shaming techniques |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:22:00 -
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there is no reason you should be asking the question. you dont need to know where my set of alliance tourney ships are sitting...you dont need to know where my jump freighter full of stuff is...you dont need to know my ship fitting....i have never been part of any alliance that has wanted complete asset list...stop trying to change subject
please provide valid reason why you need to know list of all my assets...
if this is no big deal and you dont need it then why do you keep asking for it....
alliance do not need to know my assets
totally shady |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:25:00 -
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One I can think of off the top of my head is to track theft and/or corp sponsored production.
Not that it really matters. The only relevant point in this conversation is this.
Some alliances ask for this, others don't. That is their business and no one else's... it's their corp/alliance.
If you don't like it, don't join. Pretty simple. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:25:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Please provide answer as to why goons needs anyones complete asset list. Done.
Quote:there is no reason you should be asking the question. you dont need to know where my set of alliance tourney ships are sitting...you dont need to know where my jump freighter full of stuff is...you dont need to know my ship fitting. Sure there is. Perhaps not if you have such irrelevant assets, but how will they know without checking?
Quote:i have never been part of any alliance that has wanted complete asset list. Irrelevant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:27:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:I have seen these sort of thing happen in the former northern coalition...round up all the noobs with more isk then brains...and one by one all their accounts get hacked....so reality right now? no.... but experience can see where this is going...
Oh, before I forget... no you didn't. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Finanche
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:28:00 -
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Oh my, you are quite the worry. As a recruiter I always get a full account wide API. Perhaps when you were joining you pubbie corps this was not an issue you came across but in larger more established corps it is the first port of call to checking the ligitamacy of a candidate.
"We require your full API Because...." -It allows us to see everything across your account spai. "We require your full API Because...." - It is an immediate indicator if a candidate has somthing to hide. "We require your full API Because...." - It allows us to see that your main income comes from ratting etc etc. "We require your full API Because...." - It enalbes us to see that you are as wealthy as you have stated. "We require your full API Because...." - ... You get the picture.
As someone who has provided this information to goons and who is likely far more wealthy than you will ever be in EVE as it appears your terrible at eve, I say this is not an issue at all.
If you want to be part of a major alliance, and it does not require you full API. Then I doubt you will find what your looking for. Lastly, it does not help someone to hack your account, and you have also been drinking too much and should probably stop listening to Alex Jones paranoia.
PS I am also terrible at EVE, but even I can see the sense in a Full, never expires API.
Regards |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:28:00 -
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You do know the things you have are liabilities right?
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Prince Kobol
176
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:29:00 -
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Why do you give a **** what the goons do.
The goons can do whatever the hell they like in their within their own alliance. It does not effect you in anyway unless you are one of those persons who is required to give their full API is unhappy about it but too scared to speak up on your main.
Either way get a grip
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:29:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I have seen these sort of thing happen in the former northern coalition...round up all the noobs with more isk then brains...and one by one all their accounts get hacked....so reality right now? no.... but experience can see where this is going... Oh, before I forget... no you didn't.
Oh goons...please stop trying to to change the subject....no answer has been given...
Corp theft is not valid reason...other corps do it is not valid...and because i said so is not a valid reason...
these are all childish reasons at best....please try again |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:30:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Why do you give a **** what the goons do.
The goons can do whatever the hell they like in their within their own alliance. It does not effect you in anyway unless you are one of those persons who is required to give their full API is unhappy about it but too scared to speak up on your main.
Either way get a grip
Hacking accounts or selling the information to someone who will hack the account is a valid inter alliance tactic? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:30:00 -
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Finanche wrote: "We require your full API Because...." - ... Shut up and comply, this is a dictatorship, comply or get out
andski for csm7~ |
Glarealot
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:30:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense. why do you care
Wait, that's your answer? 0_o I was waiting for you to bust out with some super reasonable response to put him in his place... instead you've just been acting super shady about the whole thing.
I used to hear some terribad rumors about goons back in my NC days. Surely you guys don't actually set up ambushes using alts for plex haulers in your own alliance... do you? >_> |
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