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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:27:00 -
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Goons have a new requirement in order to be able to join their fleets - They want FULL ASSET list. Is there really any good reason for this? The topper on all of this is the shame list for corporations that don't comply.
The following was sent out to all members of the CFC:
vCode needs to have a minimum access mask of 50725130 (following the link above will create a key with this mask) which is the following access
Private Information: AccountStatus Private Information: CharacterInfo Private Information: SkillQueue Private Information: SkillInTraining Private Information: CharacterSheet Private Information: AssetList Public Information: KillLog
Your vCode needs to list ALL characters on your account and by of type Character Your vCode needs to have no expiration date (make sure the No Expiry checkbox is checked)
Compliance numbers continue to climb with regards to the new vCode requirements, however there are still some alt corps that are not in compliance. There are also some member corps that aren't in compliance either, I've added these to the list.
To see the list of shame please visit: https://goonfleet.com/index.php?/topic/170093-required-corp-api-key-changes/
Please note that tomorrow we will be announcing fines for any corp not in compliance.
SHAME ON GOONS |
Steve Celeste
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:33:00 -
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You cannot hack accounts by using API keys.
Next. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:34:00 -
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You also should know beetter that goons do not recruit ingame.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:35:00 -
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Why is the EVE playerbase so fucking stupid?
You can't hack accounts via API. We require full-access corp-level APIs for every corp in the alliance for audit reasons. That requirement has existed for years. andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:36:00 -
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Not using the API to hack. Using the API to probe out the big fish. There are lots of other ways to hack an account. This method just lets whoever is doing the hacking figure out which account is worth the effort. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:37:00 -
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Because account hacking is a totally legitimate form of metagaming, right moron? You can't even see account details (username, e-mail) via API. andski for csm7~ |
Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:37:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Goons have a new requirement in order to be able to join their fleets - They want FULL ASSET list. Is there really any good reason for this? The topper on all of this is the shame list for corporations that don't comply. The following was sent out to all members of the CFC: vCode needs to have a minimum access mask of 50725130 (following the link above will create a key with this mask) which is the following access Private Information: AccountStatus Private Information: CharacterInfo Private Information: SkillQueue Private Information: SkillInTraining Private Information: CharacterSheet Private Information: AssetList Public Information: KillLog Your vCode needs to list ALL characters on your account and by of type Character Your vCode needs to have no expiration date (make sure the No Expiry checkbox is checked) Compliance numbers continue to climb with regards to the new vCode requirements, however there are still some alt corps that are not in compliance. There are also some member corps that aren't in compliance either, I've added these to the list. To see the list of shame please visit: https://goonfleet.com/index.php?/topic/170093-required-corp-api-key-changes/Please note that tomorrow we will be announcing fines for any corp not in compliance. SHAME ON GOONS
add yourself to the list of shame because you got no clue what the api allows and what not...
fyi: API allows only the reading of information. nothing can be stolen through the api... AND the api doesnt provide any information that could help with hacking someones account (ie accountname, password (lol)) |
ugh zug
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:38:00 -
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how exactly does this put you at risk of being hacked? i mean they already get your IP when you log into ventrilo or teamspeak, and it doesn't take much after that point to get into your system. Want me to shut up?-á Send me ISK and i'll stop giving suggestions to CCP that make sense. Remove content from my post, 15 bil Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil. |
Prince Kobol
176
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:38:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Not using the API to hack. Using the API to probe out the big fish. There are lots of other ways to hack an account. This method just lets whoever is doing the hacking figure out which account is worth the effort.
I swear to god people who play this game are getting dumber by the day.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:38:00 -
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No in order to join GSF coms you need to provide all this information. And anyways only reason to know complete asset list is to probe out the big fish and hack their account...or gank them...you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:41:00 -
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Why do goons need to see my assets? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:42:00 -
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Market intel before api used to be a very hard portfolio to put together but if you have anyone's portfolio you can easily ruin them with your wallet by hitting htier wallet.
EIther way you'd be an idiot trader trying to join goomswarm in this manner.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:42:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:No in order to join GSF coms you need to provide all this information. And anyways only reason to know complete asset list is to probe out the big fish and hack their account...or gank them...you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time?
what do they put in the water these days? goddamn andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:43:00 -
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Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:44:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Market intel before api used to be a very hard portfolio to put together but if you have anyone's portfolio you can easily ruin them with your wallet by hitting htier wallet.
EIther way you'd be an idiot trader trying to join goomswarm in this manner.
too bad nobody has access to view my market orders, heh, or even my assets andski for csm7~ |
Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:45:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense.
I don't quite understand how, but you got me good bro. I actually had a proper rage post written out and everything.
9/10. I'm docking 1 point for unoriginality because you used GoonSwarm as your example. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:46:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense.
why do you care andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:48:00 -
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Let me spell this out a bit more simply because GOONS AND ALTS seem to like to try and cloud the issue.
Anyone who wants to join mumble has to provide this information in order to get on - that includes allies....so no no just goons....
Once the api is provided assets can be tracked in real time
you are either going to be ganked by goon alt or information will be used to hack your account...yes you cant use api to hack account but there are other ways for it to be done...not including the usual goons social engineering tactics. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:48:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nova Fox wrote:Market intel before api used to be a very hard portfolio to put together but if you have anyone's portfolio you can easily ruin them with your wallet by hitting htier wallet.
EIther way you'd be an idiot trader trying to join goomswarm in this manner. too bad nobody has access to view my market orders, heh, or even my assets
Spam Agent finder.
buy random items from market
Check journal to see who you bought items from
passive targeters
and
cargo hold scanner.
This would only give a partial porfolio but after two three weeks youll have more than enough of an idea about a persons buying and selling habbits if they are serious traders to ruin them if they dont coin flip thier entire stratagey.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:49:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Let me spell this out a bit more simply because GOONS AND ALTS seem to like to try and cloud the issue.
Anyone who wants to join mumble has to provide this information in order to get on - that includes allies....so no not just goons....
Once the api is provided assets can be tracked in real time
you are either going to be ganked by goon alt or information will be used to hack your account...yes you cant use api to hack account but there are other ways for it to be done...not including the usual goons social engineering tactics.
Good sir, I can gaurantee goonswarm would be able to disown me of having any alts in thier corproation, I am not part of thier petting zoo.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:52:00 -
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Stay on topic TBH you look like you are just trying to help bury the truth. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:54:00 -
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Fox knows no truths, only realities.
The one you twisted into existince is rather.... horribly distorted.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:55:00 -
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I have seen these sort of thing happen in the former northern coalition...round up all the noobs with more isk then brains...and one by one all their accounts get hacked....so reality right now? no.... but experience can see where this is going... |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:55:00 -
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"Guys guys I have no evidence for any of the pubbie nonsense i'm about to parrot over and over but ~THE GOONIES~ require asset list access on their APIs just like literally everyone else and they are CLEARLY using this to probe targets for account hacking and there can't be any other reason at all" andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:57:00 -
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There is no reason you need to see anyones assets.
NO other alliance wants to know assets. LIES |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:59:00 -
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I say its a proper redistribution of wealth based on intelligence and cunning factor, of this service I approve.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:00:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:NO other alliance wants to know assets. LIES RiiightGǪ
Yes they do. In fact, a fair amount of them will want to know a whole lot more. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Centurion Utama
Tradesman Connection Centrum of Trade Taurus Quantum Dynamics
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:00:00 -
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Wow, people on the forums really are stupid, if you have a good password and sufficient security measures in place you'll be reasonably safe as well as if you change your password regularly and scan your computers for keyloggers regularly. Plus even a full API key won't let anyone hack your account since it only gives your character name not your account name, so unless you are a complete ****** and use your character name for your account name you will be just fine. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:01:00 -
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If they were using this solely to gank targets I say awesome....but room for accounts to be hacked is too great and is inappropriate |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:01:00 -
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Centurion Utama wrote:Wow, people on the forums really are stupid, if you have a good password and sufficient security measures in place you'll be reasonably safe as well as if you change your password regularly and scan your computers for keyloggers regularly. Plus even a full API key won't let anyone hack your account since it only gives your character name not your account name, so unless you are a complete ****** and use your character name for your account name you will be just fine.
You are clueless about how to hack an account - much easier then you think....API just lets you know what account is worth the effort. |
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