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My Honest opinion,
take it or leave it, boot out me out of the alliance if you will, but here is my say

ISS is full of freeloaders, who want the good times but when the bad times come around are no where to be seen, except on the market hiking the prices

I see in gangs the same very few faces time and time again (you know who you are, your reading this , those who dont participate are not reading this because they dont care).

I joined ISS because I took a break from the game, and when I came back I got a new character and saw a recruitment post from a old adversary that I respected, I thought i was joining a well run, motivated and organised corps/allaince

My corps (TKB) is dedicated and well run and totally focused, and that is why I stay, ISS as an alliance needs to get its act together. I am thinking about changing corps, TKB are great, but unless we as an alliance start working together, we are going no where.

I wuld much prefer a 200 man dedicated alliance, than what we have now, a 1500 man alliance with 1300 taking no real part and showing no dedication

Whatever happens in this war ISS will be a loser, BOB has their own interests to protect, and ISS are not among their proirities (we had to give up our stations, and BOB has shown they cannot protect us, look at the RISE situation). We should be looking at what is in ISS interests, no one elses. It looks to me as a simple member that we are being dragged along by BOB when we should be looking at what is best for us
You want a proposal?
here is a realistic one:
1.drop the dead weight in the alliance
2.drop out of the war
3.go back to empire and rebuild a solid base
4.rebuild on a PVP base, forget the isk for now, become a real fighting force first
5.ISS stay out of all politics in future, set our own aims and ambitions and screw everyone else


Now shoot me down in flames or boot me outta the alliance,

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I completely acknowledge that falling outs of who owns which constellation will often lead to war, or when one alliance moves harshly against another then things will turn ugly from there.

Deaell Portt your very quick to jump in and say that this is the first ISS wardec, and that its a great tactical decision the count has made. Okay great based on what.

We are a smaller force spread out over many systems so there is no advantage there.....

We are not gaining any systems or resources in this war no advantage there.....
Many are recovering from substantial losses in recent Battles and using the time between now and the 20th to recover ships and isk, wardec doesnt help with that so again no advantage.

Well after thinking about it the only people who really get an advantage from this is hmmmm IAC as they dont need to fly to fountain any more to run cowadly hit and run ops when they can now do this throughout empire.

One last point, Any alliance is made up of the collective time and efforts of all those people within it, me myself am new to the alliance but have spent all of my time and isk on ships and materials to move to fountain to defend the Alliances first claimed home, how many CEO's where consulted and asked if now was the right time to be committed to a war.
Velox

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The Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] is being removed from the alliance for the foreseeable future.

Kaisair and I will continue to pursue our own ambitions. The other members of the corporation will be dissolved, and will be looking for new homes themselves, inside or outside ISS as they please.

Decisions were made. This is not a volentary departure, and it is not on good terms. Nothing more needs to be said.

We had some great times with the alliance. Feel free to drop us a message from time to time. We might get lonely out there in space.

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ISSO is returning all IPO capital. The dividend paid today will be the final dividend paid. Shareholders owning more than 200 shares can contact Stins for direct repayment.
ISSO will maintain a buy order on RESX to buy back all other shares.
Ionia also volunteered to buy back the ISSO shares. Get in touch with her to transfer your shares to isk.

Ionia is offering to take your ISSO shares in exchange for his bonds which will pay 6%. Contact Ionia to obtain these 6% bonds.

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Originally by: Italian Wedding

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So what is this thread REALLY about?

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Originally by: Kaaii

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No one cares what one alt-corp member thinks about global issues...

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Originally by: dev1lwoman

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ISS are kicking long term corps out of the alliance, the IPO is being scrapped and the members are rebelling against BOB

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Originally by: dev1lwoman

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Edited by: dev1lwoman on 08/11/2007 23:39:01

Originally by: Kaaii

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No one cares what one alt-corp member thinks about global issues...

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I dont care what you think about what I think, however the facts that ISS are are kicking long term corps out of the alliance, the IPO is being scrapped and the members are rebelling against BOB is not what i think, it is what they are saying.. and that is worthy of comment..

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Originally by: Italian Wedding

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Originally by: dev1lwoman

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ISS are kicking long term corps out of the alliance, the IPO is being scrapped and the members are rebelling against BOB

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Aaahaha. THAT's what this thread is about. Why didn't you just say so?

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Originally by: dev1lwoman

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I wuld much prefer a 200 man dedicated alliance, than what we have now, a 1500 man alliance with 1300 taking no real part and showing no dedication

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Edited by: dev1lwoman on 08/11/2007 23:47:23
BTW Count is on holiday.. so if the mothership is seen in space I would suspect that some one has borrowed it without permission

because obviously arranging for someone else to fly it if needed on counts account would be against the EULA, so that wont happen will it
Never mind NYE I am sure your alt will be able to fly one legitamtly soon

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Originally by: Impretinent

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What happens on the 20th?

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Originally by: Antion

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Originally by: dev1lwoman

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Edited by: dev1lwoman on 08/11/2007 23:47:23
BTW Count is on holiday.. so if the mothership is seen in space I would suspect that some one has borrowed it without permission

because obviously arranging for someone else to fly it if needed on counts account would be against the EULA, so that wont happen will it
Never mind NYE I am sure your alt will be able to fly one legitamtly soon

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He might of handed it over you know. It is an ALLIANCE asset, not necessarily just his.

As for the rest of the OP, tell me honestly, do any of you goons and such really care about ISS? in the big scheme of things, we are rather small

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Originally by: laotse

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pleaese dev get alive and grow up is funy you are the only one thingking this kind of post is stil necesary ?? nobody wants them and nobody reads them its just carbage

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Originally by: laotse

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pleaese dev get alive and grow up is funy you are the only one thingking this kind of post is stil necesary ?? nobody wants them and nobody reads them its just carbage

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Originally by: Impretinent

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What happens on the 20th?

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Originally by: nye 2k

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i only have a mothership? Intresting

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Originally by: Crimson Ghostly

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i always confuse iss with fix anyone else do that?

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Originally by: Moon Kitten

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Sometimes you bet on the wrong horse.

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