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Ozstar
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 11:07:00 -
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The amusing thing about this thread is that we dont really know ourselves . ---
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.12 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii Next up the ladder? I dont get this, what pvp alliance has TRI fought that shows that they are good?
They went down south with rest of the north, got rocked by bob and withdrew from the war before any other alliance did.
then they were basically handed Deklein, and the fights they did get were against industrialists.
Then all those industrialists went and joined youwhat and TRI attacked them again.
and they refused to go into Mpire and fatal space because they never won.
I just dont see why they have a reputation for being good pvp'rs when they only fight carebear alliances.
Go fight against them for a while. I have no problem with saying that collectively and on average, Tri members are very good PvPers. You won't find many alliances with a higher skill level. A year ago, they were hit-and-run gankers; now they're a whole different deal.
PS LOL at KOS calling anyone a "carebear alliance".
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.12 11:16:00 -
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I would suggest you shoot Dave.
Sextus or jarack know where Dave is, ask them.
Plim: I was driven to absolute idiocy by CCP Plim: Screw you Kinsy, I was already an idiot before i started playing eve. |
Sacul
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy I would suggest you shoot Dave.
Sextus or jarack know where Dave is, ask them.
Dave left, he got shoot too much.
Attleast i now know that sex is wack; allways had my eye on sex as the snitch
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 11:26:00 -
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I still say we go for the hit chicks next.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.12 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Edited by: Sokratesz on 12/11/2007 11:26:44
I still say we go for the hot chicks.
hot chicks are over rated.
fat is where its at.
d solo.
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Gralg Merglen
Minmatar Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.11.12 11:47:00 -
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Any hole's a goal amirite?
ontopic: anyone Questioning TRI's pvp ability should probably shut up and go see for themself, but that's probably far too much logic for CAOD
Originally by: Graalum
I can also confirm that the guristas pirates have a titan. We tried to kill it but unfortunately it mwded away at 5k/second and smacked us in local.
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Spaced Skunk
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii Next up the ladder? I dont get this, what pvp alliance has TRI fought that shows that they are good?
Question of perspective, our targets were the targets that we living in the areas we wanted. Whether or not they were good, its irrelevant.
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They went down south with rest of the north, got rocked by bob and withdrew from the war before any other alliance did.
We left because it was boring. No fun = pointless.
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then they were basically handed Deklein, and the fights they did get were against industrialists.
Then all those industrialists went and joined youwhat and TRI attacked them again.
Our targets did have a clue, they werent useless, if you can hold space as big as Deklien, I am sure the internal people in them alliances had confidence they could hold it. Also refer to what I said on your first question.
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and they refused to go into Mpire and fatal space because they never won.
I dunno about this, I was inactive during this campaign.
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I just dont see why they have a reputation for being good pvp'rs when they only fight carebear alliances.
Tri started out with nothing and now look where we are, we've followed and continue to complete our goals. We've recieved help but we havent napped people larger than us to get there, unless in the case of RAZOR/MM fights, that was merely to be involved.
Your statement, clearly hypothetical and out of jealousy can be thrown in the COAD bin.
To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:48:00 -
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Make no mistake.... Tri are DAMNED good at what they do. Not to mention, they are really fun to fight. Very little smacky, smacky, whole lotta shooty, shooty. ------------------------------------------
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 12/11/2007 13:01:56
Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Vladic Ka What are your reasons for us doing that?
The challenge against a really good enemy. The challenge to face one of 'the big' guys. Triumvirated surely showed that they are capable of killing medium alliances. But is that enough to them? I don't think so.
I think that every top quality alliances tries to face the next challenge. To go for the top. To be one of the best.
No Alliance in eve tries to face the next challenge.
Unless they are forced into it by Sov chalenges they like large fights they are pretty sure they can win against an enemy which they view as being generally inferior.
Which space holding alliance has ever started a war against an enemy that they did not think they could comfortably beat?
I honestly am struggling to come up with a single instance of someone taking on someone else they privately viewed as their equal or better. Can you think of one?
I expect that Tri will either step up raids on the newly enlarged IRON or on SMASHKILL as two nearby fairly large entities that will give them a decent fight without (I think) going for Sov challenges on their home systems. .
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s3v3n7
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 14:14:00 -
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Next invasion?
Random webcam rooms. Until we get banned.
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Vladic Ka
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: s3v3n7 Next invasion?
Random webcam rooms. Until we get banned.
SANTA!!!!!!!!
Cig in ear please.
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Vladic Ka
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Vladic Ka on 12/11/2007 14:48:18
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Sokratesz Edited by: Sokratesz on 12/11/2007 11:26:44
I still say we go for the hot chicks.
hot chicks are over rated.
fat is where its at.
d solo.
Fat chicks are like mopeds. Fun to ride but you wouldnt let your mates see you on one.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.12 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
I honestly am struggling to come up with a single instance of someone taking on someone else they privately viewed as their equal or better. Can you think of one?
Sup.
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.12 15:39:00 -
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If anything Tri will lock down their borders and kill anything that look hostile.
Possibly doing roaming gangs into near by 0.0 space with enemies.
Maybe they will come down to HLW area and kill COW and Aftermant more since they now live in NPC station in Curse.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii Next up the ladder? I dont get this, what pvp alliance has TRI fought that shows that they are good?
They went down south with rest of the north, got rocked by bob and withdrew from the war before any other alliance did.
then they were basically handed Deklein, and the fights they did get were against industrialists.
Then all those industrialists went and joined youwhat and TRI attacked them again.
and they refused to go into Mpire and fatal space because they never won.
I just dont see why they have a reputation for being good pvp'rs when they only fight carebear alliances.
They attacked and defeated YouWhat. Say what you want about how quickly they went down, but I don't think anyone would have predicted that before the fight started. You might have assumed TRI would win eventually, but not that quickly. YW was a large power, lots of stations, lots of capitals and Sovereignty 4 in at least one constellation. YW was how much larger that TRI?
TRI can't help it if they attack entities their own size or larger and they fold like wet paper bags. They are just exposing these entities for what they are--- non-space-holding.
Personally, I don't fault them for fighting what gets put in front of them. They are not responsible for the fight others choose to give them. All they can do is bring their "A" game and hope their targets do the same.
The mechanics and commitment (both industrial and military) needed to hold 0.0 space has changed a great deal in the past year. More and more, space-holding entities are finding out that this commitment is more than they want to make. I think for a lot of people, it becomes a question of "why go broke when we can withdraw and pop up somewhere else?" This is especially true if one doesn't have a very strong esprit d'corps within one's alliance and isn't particularly attached to or have much history in the region in which one happens to reside.
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
Brunswick2
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:32:00 -
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YW didn't have Sov 4. They did have 3 stations in a constellation in CR, but they were all conquerable stations.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:46:00 -
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I'm still saying they crave that titan killmail, Ev0ke would be the natural next step.
These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade! |
Sextus Licinius
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie Whom is going to attack Triumvirate next? I don't think they can stand still but that they want some nice action instead. Further I believe that they won't backstab Razor or Morsus Mihi.
So I believe that they are going for Red Alliance as next huge challenge!
That would be only logical. Go to the next big enemy up the ladder and test your own skills against them. If you win, great! If you lose, so what? You still have your own regions, and you have gained lots more experience. What do you think?
I'll have some of what the OP is smoking. The only way to backstab RZR/MM is by NOT shooting them and maybe propose some nap stuff so we can all mine that veldspar and/or ask for plagioclase crystals in local. NO, backstabing them into a NAP is unnaceptable.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |
Sextus Licinius
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sacul
Originally by: Kinsy I would suggest you shoot Dave.
Sextus or jarack know where Dave is, ask them.
Dave left, he got shoot too much.
Attleast i now know that sex is wack; allways had my eye on sex as the snitch
Now this image will haunt me for the rest of my life
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2 YW didn't have Sov 4. They did have 3 stations in a constellation in CR, but they were all conquerable stations.
I stand corrected. I only remembered they showed up as having it at one point on some map. I didn't pay much attention otherwise.
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
I honestly am struggling to come up with a single instance of someone taking on someone else they privately viewed as their equal or better. Can you think of one?
Sup.
I did think about referring to that but I didnĘt want to refer to the bob/rsf conflict for fear of triggering an avalanche of alt posts.
Goons donĘt really have a normal approach to eve and so are more the exception that proves the rule
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Pnuka
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.12 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
I honestly am struggling to come up with a single instance of someone taking on someone else they privately viewed as their equal or better. Can you think of one?
Sup.
I did think about referring to that but I didnĘt want to refer to the bob/rsf conflict for fear of triggering an avalanche of alt posts.
Goons donĘt really have a normal approach to eve and so are more the exception that proves the rule
Watching YW engage in e-honor fleet fights and losing horrendously, acknowledge their only chance against Tri was a Pos war and fail/chicken out of that, then to sulk off to empire was pretty entertaining for most goons.
I'm glad they took the normal approach.
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Helen
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.12 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
I honestly am struggling to come up with a single instance of someone taking on someone else they privately viewed as their equal or better. Can you think of one?
Sup.
I'll admit this made lol.
First pod pilot to lose a Mothership in EvE... err woo |
Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.12 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Nizar you fail
or post with a char that we can all take seriously.
Haha, that is funny!
What did you predict in the past correctly? Tell me one thing.
Read up my previous posts. I correctly predicted that D2 will fall (gave the reasons, but no one listened and I got yelled down at the forums). I predicted that BoB overextended themselves when they attacked 9-9. I predicted that RA/Goons will take BoB space. I said that YouWhat would fall against Tri unless they would fight harder. I correctly wrote that MC would retract from the current war. I didn't think that BoB would that easily give away most of their regions, I didn't predict their evacuation plan - which I think is not a good idea. So I guessed some development correctly (and wrote posts about it BEFORE it happened) and some things I didn't see comming. But that is no shame.
And now I think that Tri is going to fight RA in a bit. Read this post in 2-3 months and we will see if I was right or wrong. I gave some reasons why this would make sense and why this could be a reasonable development. Now give me YOUR reasons why this is not likely to happen or STFU.
TRI's got alot of X IRON guys, or others that were aligned with G waay back when. Most of us have a healthy revulsion to BoB, and even the appearance of aligning with them (by fighting RA) would be pretty smelly to us. But, who knows, winds how they be. ----------------- Friends Forever
Kill. BoB. Dead. |
fly2007
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Posted - 2007.11.12 20:26:00 -
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i think the next logical step for you lot is to go for the big boys and it has to be bob and goons or ra
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saangocaste
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: saangocaste on 13/11/2007 01:24:44 I believe that the OP here misunderstands tri as a lot of people in game do. Triumvirate is not a normal alliance, in that they are loosely bound group of pvp corporations. They work together well under war time conditions but most of the time the corporations themselves do their own thing. Many corps do not even live in Deklein and can be found in Fountain, Curse, Venal, and many other places around the map.
I dont see the alliance of Triumvirate as more as a mutual NAP between pvp corps, that when needed can get thing done together since they have agreeded upon central leadership inside the alliance. The corporations do what they want, when they want...and as far as triumvirate having pets goes, they sell people space them set them to neutral (since they want targets). Theres nothing more to understand than pvp, pvp, and pvp.
From fighting against them and with them under northern assaults, they seem to set temporary naps if its believed they can get an "epic" fight out of it (such examples as a week or so in BKG and the assault on Sparta.) However after helping you they will turn around and kill you.
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50freefly
Caldari Aonyma United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.13 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Akromar It's Caturday!
Best. Sig. Ever.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Boom ChickaBoom
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Posted - 2007.11.15 21:47:00 -
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*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Valorem ([email protected])
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AlvynNevins
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.15 21:52:00 -
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Shoe on head!!!!11111
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