How are you fitting these Hulks that keep getting blown up? Post the fit. I bet the problem is there.

I dont really think anyone has anythign against afk mining, what you are talking about is people ganking miners. Its always happened, its always going to happen. Its what some people enjoy, dont really see it as interesteing tbh, but thats their game.
I afk mine in hisec alot on an alt and I have never once been ganked, ever. Just down to luck I guess. I tend to afk mine when im home with the kids, watching movies etc. Nothing wrong with it as longas you are doing it yourself as other have said.
I am dead against bots and like to see them exploded, then watch their pods carrying on the same cycle...

EVE is a sandbox. Many different ways to play converge in blissful chaos providing fun, terror, and abject boredom.

If I see you acting brain dead on the street holding tasty lollipops and I have a bat, I'm gonna club you to death and take watcha got for my satisfaction. If you are not paying attention and playing your best defense, it's your fault. Some of the best fun in EVE can be had by running away at a crucial time and saving your bacon.

I've lost about 5 hulks to that and have never made a profit on any hulk I've bought. Again long ago and not bitter....much. No my problem is why do people have a problem with afk miners in general? You play the game how you want to and I'll play it how I want to

During one of the hulkageddons (i'd neglected to pay attention to the forums) my alt got ganked in her hulk by a swarm of thrashers. i was a mite annoyed, and the perpetrators thought it was terribly amusing.

Now, hulkageddon usually brings out the kinds of people who you wouldn't usually associate with suicide ganking, you know, mission runners, some bored anti pirates and whatnot. so, i waited a week or so, tracked their movements, discovered that all of them were pretty much carebears who liked to run missions in their pimped out CNR's and golems all day, every day.

So, i ganked every single one of them in their missions, got quite a bit of nice loot as well. navy launchers, gist XL shield boosters, you know the types of things you find on pimped up mission ships.

I must say, they were NOT amused, they flamed me, threatened to wardec me (they didn't) and all that, their tears were delicious, i must say.

the moral of the story: Don't get mad, get even

But if people have a problem with afk in general then whats next to go? Afk hauling? Afk Station sitting?

AFK hauling is already "gone" by some measure. I think people scan ships that pass by and decide if they want to gank em or not (you also get loot, have a friend help with that).

AFK station sitting not likely unless we can shoot people who are docked.

So, i ganked every single one of them in their missions, got quite a bit of nice loot as well. navy launchers, gist XL shield boosters, you know the types of things you find on pimped up mission ships.

I must say, they were NOT amused, they flamed me, threatened to wardec me (they didn't) and all that, their tears were delicious, i must say.

the moral of the story: Don't get mad, get even

You make your own game as do all the other subscribers (except the little bees who are too stupid to do anything but what they are told to do).

Well I think once can fit a tank to the mining barge, but it reduces your ability to hold ore to a specific threshold (no cargo expanders).

During one of the hulkageddons (i'd neglected to pay attention to the forums) my alt got ganked in her hulk by a swarm of thrashers. i was a mite annoyed, and the perpetrators thought it was terribly amusing.

Now, hulkageddon usually brings out the kinds of people who you wouldn't usually associate with suicide ganking, you know, mission runners, some bored anti pirates and whatnot. so, i waited a week or so, tracked their movements, discovered that all of them were pretty much carebears who liked to run missions in their pimped out CNR's and golems all day, every day.

So, i ganked every single one of them in their missions, got quite a bit of nice loot as well. navy launchers, gist XL shield boosters, you know the types of things you find on pimped up mission ships.

I must say, they were NOT amused, they flamed me, threatened to wardec me (they didn't) and all that, their tears were delicious, i must say.

the moral of the story: Don't get mad, get even

Yay well done. I congrats you. That's one for the miners. I may take a leaf out of your book then. I'm a firm believer in making people pay for their actions. I don't care about being wardec at the moment. I'm in a dead corp and leaving it tomorrow to go back to newb corp. been a solo flyer for many years and find that corps are more trouble than their worth

Hopefully the gankers gpu can't handle the awesomeness of my disintegration and his box melts down.....

NO! Don't go back to an NPC corp, I beg of you sir. The packing of NPC corp warehouses with player pods is one of the main reasons that miners have such a poor voice in Eve. While in one you are incapable of creating flourishing industrial mechanisms since the corp is unable to support it. They encourage solo play and take advantage of the typical industrialists tendency to simply dual box and "play with themselves" instead of others. Take you voice and put it into a player corp or create one. NPC corps in my opinion are one of the cancers that keep HiSec from being as vital and dynamic as it could be.

It may be a little off the original topic but: the problem with industry, and industrial players is that when they are fairly new, they lack the skillset to fight anyone who wardecs them, or griefs them. i've seen them try, and often with spirit, but it usually ends up with them losing ships, implants, and the 'griefers' having a laugh at their expense.

Wardecs by smaller 'pvp' corps against larger 'industrial' corps are simply a way for the 'elite pvpers' to pad their killboards, and it doesn't suprise me in the least when players go back to NPC corps.

Indi ships are also terribly weak, now, while people might balk at this, i've recently been playing pirates of te burning sea (quite fun) and a 'merchant' ship (indiaman) in that game can be a handful for almost any pure military ship. if indi ships coud fight back, or were tougher, or SOMETHING, industrialsts wouldn't be such soft targets

In order to turn the tables, you need to have experience yourself, i'm fortunate in that the thing i wanted to do most when i started was to be a pirate, and i was quite good at it, i then decided to be a mercenary, i was quite good at that too. nullsec, been there, done that, now i'm branching into industry, trading and all that. its very interesting, but i'm in the very fortunate position that my alt and i can take care of ourselves.

I'm also looking for a nice friendly indi corp to take me under their wing, mail me in game

All good points I would agree with. I do think most mining ships need a buff as to take several alphas before succumbing. They are supposed to be for deep space work so you would think they would be built to do so. This is turn would force more pirate/griefer cooperation.

I think most players however have no clue to begin with which is why I think NPC corps should be learning corps from which players migrate to player corporations. They gain experience from those players who run the corps. They gain defenses from those mercs hired to fight their wardecs, etc... The more I look at NPC corps the more they seem to be a speed bump in players getting a full Eve experience.

Hulks can take a tempests alpha.

If you are at your keyboard, then you are not AFK.

Doesn't change if you chat or browse interwebs at same time as playing. People do all that at the same time as any other activities in game.

Yes, the Hulk can be a beast. I would propose however buffing the lower tier mining ships a bit so that it's a tad bit harder to pick off the low lying fruit or giving them a boost if in fleets, sort of a work/gang bonus. I am partial to the idea of packs of pirates instead of the lone terrors that we saw so much of during the Ice Interdiction.