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Soulspatch
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Posted - 2007.11.22 07:26:00 -
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My friend and fellow EVE mates wife is 100% colour blind, no colour at all. She is also light sensitive and short sighted. On her CRT she has everything set to large, infact she is classed a legally blind. When I brought my LCD monitor she was excited because she could see sharpness and define objects much more clearly than on her CRT. Might I recommend a good quality LCD monitor. My friend originally brought a 19inch LCD for his wife, but she cannot use it because of flicker and lack of sharpness. I use the Samsung 931 BW 19 inch widescreen and placed side by side with his standard 19 inch the contrast is significant, particularly with colours.
Hope this helps, fly safe.
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Bentula
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:23:00 -
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I think it would generally be a nice idea to allow basic modability of the interface. Nothing like the stuff in wow, but simple things like fonts, fontsizes, colors used, position and size of windows etc. Maybe something like a XML file, doesnt need to have a fancy interface or something.
Imagine gothic fonts for amarr chars and stuff like that  , would definitly add some flavour for roleplayers too. And disabled people could use the same mechanic to use colors which actually have contrast for them.
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Nathan Stahn
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nathan Stahn on 22/11/2007 21:45:42
Edited by: Nathan Stahn on 22/11/2007 21:44:35
Why don't you and your friend get your eyes fixed. You are probably going to be able to get them fixed before CCP were make the changes.
I just want to point out the game and CCP are not he problem, your broken eyes are the problem.
Do you ***** at the city when you get tickets for running red lights?
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Deiege
Minmatar
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.24 04:07:00 -
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I'm unable to use a keyboard and rely on the Microsoft On-Sreen Keyboard. It works great with EVE in windowed mode, except two things:
- If I get stuck in full-screen mode (for example after losing settings) I can't see the OSK and there's no way to open Settings using the mouse/trackball to switch to windowed mode, it requires hitting Escape. I had a trick to activate the settings window during client start up, before full-screen kicks in, but it's much harder to do with the Trinity client. An clickable settings button somewhere would solve all this.
- The shortcuts involving ctrl-alt-shift-something for some reason can't be activated via the OSK. Ctrl-alt-shift-e and t toggle effects and turrets and are important to reduce cliet-side lag in large battles, but can't be reconfigured from their default key combinations and so can't be toggled at all. Greater flexibility to redefine shortcut combinations would fix this easily.
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EvilSpork
Blackguard Brigade
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.25 07:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Valron Xizor
Man this is a tough one. TBH, I cant see how any game developer can build a game to suit every kind of disability.
on a side note, the no arms analogy is apples and oranges to having trouble distinguishing colors.
on topic: i would be nice to see perhaps some sort of prefs.ini hack to allow us to hack colors of some effects. ie: module activation. if i could make it activate with a white glow or something, maybe it would be easier to see. i have pretty much perfect vision and i have a heck of a time seeing if my stuff is on. but thats beside the point.
as for scrambling NPCs, i dont have my game effects turned on at all so i have no way of seeing the graphic AT ALL. you *MUST* learn enemy ship names for missions. you MUST. learn the npc ship types and kill the threats first.
here's a handy link that explains most ship naming schemes:
http://eve-survival.org/shiptypes.html
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Xzar Fyrarr
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Posted - 2007.11.25 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Alrich
can you see the effect of warp scramblers?
why dont you just kill all the small ones and be done with it?
the effects is hard to see for everyone and in pve you dont need them. kill all the small things and be able to warp again, tank and dont warp out or kill everything faster than they kill you... that is three ways of doing the thing you tried, all of them easier and your handicap wont matter
I fully agree.
In PvE I just assume that the frigs have warp scramblers on.
So I will just kill those first with drones and missle swhile turrets focus on bigger targets.
There is always plan B ---> you could of killed the scramblers for him since he was doing the mission wtih you--> to the op.
Or plan C----> kill the named frigs first and/or the one that have scramblers on them....
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.11.25 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: spambunker
5) "Game developers can't target every disability..." but they can acknowledge the fact that more than 1 in 10 of their players has this one and it is by far the simplest to design to. The hardware to allow you to play (glasses, orthopedic mouse, special keyboard) are firmly player-side issues, but there isn't anything a player can do about poor color design. The level of garbage rhetoric people invoked on this one was pathetic.
1 out of 10 males has a certain degree of color blindness. I'm one of those, but only to a mild degree. I don't need CCP to make any changes for me. So don't throw 1 out of 10 around as if it's a large amount of people, because of those 1 out of 10, there's probably a large amount that have little or no issues.
For reference, on the color test on page 3 I saw:
Left/Right:
25/29
spots/56
spots/spots
On the bottom one I see no numbers at all.
In game I use a Domi with sentries and 425mm railguns. I make distance before engaging in missions. I never see the warp scramble effect, because frigs are dead before they're in range to activate their scrambler.
Quote:
Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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sukio
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Posted - 2007.11.25 12:00:00 -
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I say join the club
I know people that cannot play eve because of physical handycaps and cannot respond effectivly to pirates in hi sec
they were forced to go to a game where they wernt harassed.
EVE PVP is out of control and is hurting EVE and CCP |
Lothros Andastar
Gallente
Imperium Forces
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.25 12:20:00 -
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No disrespect but it simply isnt CCP's job to cater to every possible handicap imaginable.
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sukio
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Posted - 2007.11.25 13:16:00 -
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I agree there are certain things which a game maker shouldnt be expected to address.
I do think that, where reasonable game makers should try to make an effort to make allowances for the impared
being able to adjust or modify certain hud colors or text size for instance,, having some visual as well as sound for certain things maby having an icon showing if your ship is webed or scrambled
the ship scanner and targeting layout is quite poor ive even seen people shoot friends that were trying to armor rep them.
EVE PVP is out of control and is hurting EVE and CCP |
Kittamaru
Gallente
Ceptacemia
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.11.25 14:49:00 -
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How would you recommend CCP fix this? Make a Black and White eve? Make an EvE with NO blue or Green?
There is no real way to fix this... you want a fix? Alter the damned overview... CCP gave you the tools to fix it the best they could, now do it.
Scrammed? Shoot the small ships. Better yet, use a mission list to see what, if anything, might scram, and shoot those names.
No offense mate... I hear your plight... but really, adapt. It's what being human is all about.
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DeODokktor
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2007.11.25 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kittamaru
How would you recommend CCP fix this? Make a Black and White eve? Make an EvE with NO blue or Green?
There is no real way to fix this... you want a fix? Alter the damned overview... CCP gave you the tools to fix it the best they could, now do it.
Scrammed? Shoot the small ships. Better yet, use a mission list to see what, if anything, might scram, and shoot those names.
No offense mate... I hear your plight... but really, adapt. It's what being human is all about.
Having a INF File where someone can set a config for the colors of effects doesnt seem like a lot to ask for tbh.
Having (as said before, I say agin, and someone else will say after me no dobt) the overview (or a icon on the ship itself) show who's webbing/warpjamming/using EW would instantly Fix this.
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TimMc
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.25 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: TimMc on 25/11/2007 20:07:47
Originally by: DeODokktor
Originally by: TimMc
As horrible as a disability colourblindness or any disability is, CCP at the end of the day are a capital company - meaning they go where the money is. If enough people with similar disabilities wanted to play eve then I'm sure they would invest in the feature. Most games, however, do not feature many if any disability options.
I'm fairly sure there is some way through graphics drivers or windows to replace colours tho, is it?
People seem to think that "online" disabilitys seem to include no legs, lack of pecker, or inability to **** on demand.... (not pointing at you TimMc)...
But yea, ccp's in it for profit, allowing someone to change the default colors on a few items tho (to help capture some of the R/G colorblind market) seems like something that should be easy to do :/..
Graphic Drivers/Windows to do that, not really, But you can filter a lot of it, and shift colors around a lot.. You cant easily shift say, Red to Blue, or Green to Yelow.. (there's a lot of combos people can be color blind to, I just used red/green as it's one of the most common)..
WoW actually has a (I think Unofficial patch) for colorblind people.
I mean, I'll go back to what I said earlier, If it's just a simple color selection change, CCP should do it, the few extra customers they pick up by doing it would probably pay for the effort!
My father is colourblind to some shades of brown, so I know a little of where you are coming from. Disabilities that need to be combated on the computer are blindness (impossible to help with Eve), deafness (most people play muted anyway but teamspeak is a problem) and colourblind (the main problem).
Then again, the scrambler effect on npc rats doesn't appear for me alot of the time, and when it does it isn't noticeable easily. So I would just advise your friend to kill the frigate rats.
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Deiege
Minmatar
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.04 07:10:00 -
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Both things I mentioned on the last page are fixed in Trinity. I assume it was happening anyway, but much thanks either way 
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