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 SerpentBlade    |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:26:00 -
[1] As a protest to CCP and their comment to me about some undocumented changes they made that have cost me millions in invested stuff (we've all had it happen to us.. this has been the 3rd time for me.. so i'm mad), i'm proposing we have the Big Logoff... set a date and time for everybody in the EVE community to log off and watch the server count hit 0 as a protest to the crap CCP loves to pull on all of us. As stated by a GM who shall go nameless: We reserve the right to change anything at any time, without warning or compensation. (Read: We reserve the right to f*** over the player base without any consequence to our programmers that can't documents changes for s***). So I propose we make a change and all stop playing, and see how they react to no compensation for their work maintaining game and servers. Any suggestions on time and date so we can get this massive event underway? ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
 SerpentBlade Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:26:00 -
[2] As a protest to CCP and their comment to me about some undocumented changes they made that have cost me millions in invested stuff (we've all had it happen to us.. this has been the 3rd time for me.. so i'm mad), i'm proposing we have the Big Logoff... set a date and time for everybody in the EVE community to log off and watch the server count hit 0 as a protest to the crap CCP loves to pull on all of us. As stated by a GM who shall go nameless: We reserve the right to change anything at any time, without warning or compensation. (Read: We reserve the right to f*** over the player base without any consequence to our programmers that can't documents changes for s***). So I propose we make a change and all stop playing, and see how they react to no compensation for their work maintaining game and servers. Any suggestions on time and date so we can get this massive event underway? ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
 Airen Fortaine |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:50:00 -
[3] tbh I think its a bit harsh, but then, ive not had many problems with EVE. And for the most part, neither has alot of people. Take the "Yulai incident" everyone affected by it got their stuff back, and Zombie inc got their ban. Fair is fair. Maybe you'll get enough players on your side to slightly dint the server count, but as for leveling it, you have no chance.  Now excuse me while I get back to playing EVE Signed, one very satisfied EVE player  |
 Airen Fortaine Minmatar |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:50:00 -
[4] tbh I think its a bit harsh, but then, ive not had many problems with EVE. And for the most part, neither has alot of people. Take the "Yulai incident" everyone affected by it got their stuff back, and Zombie inc got their ban. Fair is fair. Maybe you'll get enough players on your side to slightly dint the server count, but as for leveling it, you have no chance. Now excuse me while I get back to playing EVE Signed, one very satisfied EVE player |
 Asharee Intrefer |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:08:00 -
[5] Good idea, all the whiners log off, to save server resources for those who don't have anything to complain about.  |
 Asharee Intrefer Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:08:00 -
[6] Good idea, all the whiners log off, to save server resources for those who don't have anything to complain about. |
 Airen Fortaine |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:19:00 -
[7] Yup. |
Airen Fortaine Minmatar |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:19:00 -
[8] Yup. |
 SerpentBlade |
Posted - 2004.03.05 21:38:00 -
[9] Don't get me wrong, i LOVE EVE.. otherwise i'd have quit long ago... in fact.. the only thing i really hate is the little things the game leaves out (and has left out for very long periods of times)... and the insensitivity of GMs. The only reason you got to see those exploiters put in their place, and people reimbursed, was because it was well known to the entire player base. I can think a few times exploiters got me and my corpmates, and we were given the shaft by the GMs, and the cheaters are still roaming free. And to clarify: its not whining if its overwhelmingly justified that you've been cheated. Obviously you don't play the game to such a degree as others to say you've never had anything go wrong for you. ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
SerpentBlade Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2004.03.05 21:38:00 -
[10] Don't get me wrong, i LOVE EVE.. otherwise i'd have quit long ago... in fact.. the only thing i really hate is the little things the game leaves out (and has left out for very long periods of times)... and the insensitivity of GMs. The only reason you got to see those exploiters put in their place, and people reimbursed, was because it was well known to the entire player base. I can think a few times exploiters got me and my corpmates, and we were given the shaft by the GMs, and the cheaters are still roaming free. And to clarify: its not whining if its overwhelmingly justified that you've been cheated. Obviously you don't play the game to such a degree as others to say you've never had anything go wrong for you. ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
LiverpoolFC |
Posted - 2004.03.06 00:47:00 -
[11] I am sorry but i will not join a big log off. I lost millions when they removed zyd/mega from Tech II Ram/Rdb/Components etc. I bought mega/zyd when the prices where at their highest. I made 1000's of missiles just before they made them cheaper. But despite all this I still make lots of ISK and have a good time doing so. Maybe next time they change something I will make a few ISK, maybe I lose a bit. CCP say that game play can change with patches, and the game is so much better now that a few months agoo. I will sacrifce some ISK for better game play, I think your protest is doomed to fail. |
 LiverpoolFC |
Posted - 2004.03.06 00:47:00 -
[12] I am sorry but i will not join a big log off. I lost millions when they removed zyd/mega from Tech II Ram/Rdb/Components etc. I bought mega/zyd when the prices where at their highest. I made 1000's of missiles just before they made them cheaper. But despite all this I still make lots of ISK and have a good time doing so. Maybe next time they change something I will make a few ISK, maybe I lose a bit. CCP say that game play can change with patches, and the game is so much better now that a few months agoo. I will sacrifce some ISK for better game play, I think your protest is doomed to fail. |
 s4mp3r0r |
Posted - 2004.03.06 11:22:00 -
[13] Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 06/03/2004 11:23:35 Serpent, I'll join you. Why ? Not because EVE is a crappy game or I've been shafted by GM's but because I want to remind them who is important here. It's about the players, not them making cash. I also have had enuf of "hidden features" in patches for one thing. Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile ! |
 s4mp3r0r ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems |
Posted - 2004.03.06 11:22:00 -
[14] Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 06/03/2004 11:23:35 Serpent, I'll join you. Why ? Not because EVE is a crappy game or I've been shafted by GM's but because I want to remind them who is important here. It's about the players, not them making cash. I also have had enuf of "hidden features" in patches for one thing. |
 Macca |
Posted - 2004.03.07 00:58:00 -
[15] Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:59:38 Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:58:58
...No its not! Do you honestly think that CCP made this game to entertain you in the evenings? Face facts, do you work in your office or whatever the hell you do to make your boss or clients happy? NO! You do it to get money! Simple as that. I respect CCP for what they have done here. They have made an absolutly exellent game here and could of just left it at version 9xx. But we give them money every month for In-depth story lines, customer support (no matter how bad you think it is, it is still better than nothing, and a lot of them are volunteers), new in-game technology and better perfomance. Thank you CCP (not arse-licking, honest lol) |
 Macca Gallente |
Posted - 2004.03.07 00:58:00 -
[16] Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:59:38 Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:58:58
...No its not! Do you honestly think that CCP made this game to entertain you in the evenings? Face facts, do you work in your office or whatever the hell you do to make your boss or clients happy? NO! You do it to get money! Simple as that. I respect CCP for what they have done here. They have made an absolutly exellent game here and could of just left it at version 9xx. But we give them money every month for In-depth story lines, customer support (no matter how bad you think it is, it is still better than nothing, and a lot of them are volunteers), new in-game technology and better perfomance. Thank you CCP (not arse-licking, honest lol) |
 Nikolai Reidar |
Posted - 2004.03.07 01:15:00 -
[17] Haha, all the crybabies leave, allowing the rest of us to host uber-parties with less lag! :. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |
 Nikolai Reidar Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2004.03.07 01:15:00 -
[18] Haha, all the crybabies leave, allowing the rest of us to host uber-parties with less lag! :. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |
Haratu |
Posted - 2004.03.07 03:03:00 -
[19] If a GM has to deal with people who complain all the time I am not suprised people loose millions. I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
 Haratu Shinie Stuff Salvagers |
Posted - 2004.03.07 03:03:00 -
[20] If a GM has to deal with people who complain all the time I am not suprised people loose millions. I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
 Serilla |
Posted - 2004.03.07 04:21:00 -
[21] I would participate just to show them they cant just ignore people and get away with it 100% of the time. Ive been screwed many times to bugs in eve. And when castor came in eve wouldnt even run on my computer for 4 days. I have sent 4 emails to their customer service email. And never once have i gotten a reply to help resolve my situation. I have lost many ships due to bugs, all of them were denied by petitions. They say they dont have logs to prove stuff is really blown up. How did they prove the 100+ ships and items lost in yulai other day? I get evemails saying i was destroyed by "Eve System" in a .8 sec system. No replacement for crap. Seriously their customer ignorment service really ****ess me off! |
 Serilla The Syndicate Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2004.03.07 04:21:00 -
[22] I would participate just to show them they cant just ignore people and get away with it 100% of the time. Ive been screwed many times to bugs in eve. And when castor came in eve wouldnt even run on my computer for 4 days. I have sent 4 emails to their customer service email. And never once have i gotten a reply to help resolve my situation. I have lost many ships due to bugs, all of them were denied by petitions. They say they dont have logs to prove stuff is really blown up. How did they prove the 100+ ships and items lost in yulai other day? I get evemails saying i was destroyed by "Eve System" in a .8 sec system. No replacement for crap. Seriously their customer ignorment service really ****ess me off! __________________ |
Species 8472 |
Posted - 2004.03.07 11:24:00 -
[23] Geez guys stop whineing ive lost close to 300 mill easy due to bugs etc and have even lost bounty prizes and lost sec ive petitioned and sometimes they can replace other times they cant . So u get over it forget about it, you earn it back again try another way , whatever you do have fun its a game dont whine Enjoy the bloody game its great ive been playing since 2 weeks after beta and still love it and i enjoy the fact that they keep updateing it instead of leaveing in its orignal stage. Remember its a game have fun "The Weak Will Perish". |
 Species 8472 Minmatar Omniscient Order |
Posted - 2004.03.07 11:24:00 -
[24] Geez guys stop whineing ive lost close to 300 mill easy due to bugs etc and have even lost bounty prizes and lost sec ive petitioned and sometimes they can replace other times they cant . So u get over it forget about it, you earn it back again try another way , whatever you do have fun its a game dont whine Enjoy the bloody game its great ive been playing since 2 weeks after beta and still love it and i enjoy the fact that they keep updateing it instead of leaveing in its orignal stage. Remember its a game have fun "The Weak Will Perish". |
Styrmir |
Posted - 2004.03.07 16:01:00 -
[25]
Can you elaborate as to what happened to you? Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum |
 Styrmir Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2004.03.07 16:01:00 -
[26]
Can you elaborate as to what happened to you? Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum |
 s4mp3r0r |
Posted - 2004.03.09 00:13:00 -
[27] Stuff like the Yulai thing ****es me off. People find a way to circumvent getting shot down by Concord. They show that CCP hasn't made Concord strong enough to handle stuff. This is THEIR fault, not the people killing people and surviving Concord. I like the idea of people being able to join Concord to help stuff like this. Now they ban Zombie corp because they used this so called "exploit". It's not their fault game mechanics are screwed like that. I understand that is bad that newbies get shot in Yulai but come on. Newbies are already protected too much with the new 40% insurance. PS : if they got a warning not to do it during their action or before, i agree with the banning. Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile ! |
s4mp3r0r ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems |
Posted - 2004.03.09 00:13:00 -
[28] Stuff like the Yulai thing ****es me off. People find a way to circumvent getting shot down by Concord. They show that CCP hasn't made Concord strong enough to handle stuff. This is THEIR fault, not the people killing people and surviving Concord. I like the idea of people being able to join Concord to help stuff like this. Now they ban Zombie corp because they used this so called "exploit". It's not their fault game mechanics are screwed like that. I understand that is bad that newbies get shot in Yulai but come on. Newbies are already protected too much with the new 40% insurance. PS : if they got a warning not to do it during their action or before, i agree with the banning. |
Thomas Epsilon |
Posted - 2004.03.09 09:07:00 -
[29] Edited by: Thomas Epsilon on 09/03/2004 09:16:26
Omg you turn everything upside down. You name Zombie Inc. the victim of flawed game mechanics. The Yulai incident is not a good example of CCP being a bad software company. Look how they compensated for losses and took action to prevent such exploit from happening again. All software has bugs, so exploits can be expected. Zombie Inc., who exploited the flawed game mechanic got what they deserved. They did it with the knowledge of exploiting and they knew they were cheating. No mercy for people who do that. Your reasoning can be compared with persons who rob a store and then say it wasn't their fault, because the lock was weak. All software has bugs, unfortunately EvE has alot of bugs. This is something I would indeed complain about and I certainly hope CCP will improve their reputation by making EvE alot more stable. -------- Ontopic: I agree with the topicstarter on the issue that it is very annoying if CCP does not document all changes. However I think your protest action will not have many supporters ;) |
 Thomas Epsilon Dominators |
Posted - 2004.03.09 09:07:00 -
[30] Edited by: Thomas Epsilon on 09/03/2004 09:16:26
Omg you turn everything upside down. You name Zombie Inc. the victim of flawed game mechanics. The Yulai incident is not a good example of CCP being a bad software company. Look how they compensated for losses and took action to prevent such exploit from happening again. All software has bugs, so exploits can be expected. Zombie Inc., who exploited the flawed game mechanic got what they deserved. They did it with the knowledge of exploiting and they knew they were cheating. No mercy for people who do that. Your reasoning can be compared with persons who rob a store and then say it wasn't their fault, because the lock was weak. All software has bugs, unfortunately EvE has alot of bugs. This is something I would indeed complain about and I certainly hope CCP will improve their reputation by making EvE alot more stable. -------- Ontopic: I agree with the topicstarter on the issue that it is very annoying if CCP does not document all changes. However I think your protest action will not have many supporters ;) _________________________ Thomas Epsilon ISS Navy Task Force http://www.borgirc.net |
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