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 SerpentBlade    |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:26:00 -
[1] As a protest to CCP and their comment to me about some undocumented changes they made that have cost me millions in invested stuff (we've all had it happen to us.. this has been the 3rd time for me.. so i'm mad), i'm proposing we have the Big Logoff... set a date and time for everybody in the EVE community to log off and watch the server count hit 0 as a protest to the crap CCP loves to pull on all of us. As stated by a GM who shall go nameless: We reserve the right to change anything at any time, without warning or compensation. (Read: We reserve the right to f*** over the player base without any consequence to our programmers that can't documents changes for s***). So I propose we make a change and all stop playing, and see how they react to no compensation for their work maintaining game and servers. Any suggestions on time and date so we can get this massive event underway? ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
 SerpentBlade Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:26:00 -
[2] As a protest to CCP and their comment to me about some undocumented changes they made that have cost me millions in invested stuff (we've all had it happen to us.. this has been the 3rd time for me.. so i'm mad), i'm proposing we have the Big Logoff... set a date and time for everybody in the EVE community to log off and watch the server count hit 0 as a protest to the crap CCP loves to pull on all of us. As stated by a GM who shall go nameless: We reserve the right to change anything at any time, without warning or compensation. (Read: We reserve the right to f*** over the player base without any consequence to our programmers that can't documents changes for s***). So I propose we make a change and all stop playing, and see how they react to no compensation for their work maintaining game and servers. Any suggestions on time and date so we can get this massive event underway? ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
 Airen Fortaine |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:50:00 -
[3] tbh I think its a bit harsh, but then, ive not had many problems with EVE. And for the most part, neither has alot of people. Take the "Yulai incident" everyone affected by it got their stuff back, and Zombie inc got their ban. Fair is fair. Maybe you'll get enough players on your side to slightly dint the server count, but as for leveling it, you have no chance.  Now excuse me while I get back to playing EVE Signed, one very satisfied EVE player  |
 Airen Fortaine Minmatar |
Posted - 2004.03.05 19:50:00 -
[4] tbh I think its a bit harsh, but then, ive not had many problems with EVE. And for the most part, neither has alot of people. Take the "Yulai incident" everyone affected by it got their stuff back, and Zombie inc got their ban. Fair is fair. Maybe you'll get enough players on your side to slightly dint the server count, but as for leveling it, you have no chance. Now excuse me while I get back to playing EVE Signed, one very satisfied EVE player |
 Asharee Intrefer |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:08:00 -
[5] Good idea, all the whiners log off, to save server resources for those who don't have anything to complain about.  |
 Asharee Intrefer Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:08:00 -
[6] Good idea, all the whiners log off, to save server resources for those who don't have anything to complain about. |
 Airen Fortaine |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:19:00 -
[7] Yup. |
Airen Fortaine Minmatar |
Posted - 2004.03.05 20:19:00 -
[8] Yup. |
SerpentBlade |
Posted - 2004.03.05 21:38:00 -
[9] Don't get me wrong, i LOVE EVE.. otherwise i'd have quit long ago... in fact.. the only thing i really hate is the little things the game leaves out (and has left out for very long periods of times)... and the insensitivity of GMs. The only reason you got to see those exploiters put in their place, and people reimbursed, was because it was well known to the entire player base. I can think a few times exploiters got me and my corpmates, and we were given the shaft by the GMs, and the cheaters are still roaming free. And to clarify: its not whining if its overwhelmingly justified that you've been cheated. Obviously you don't play the game to such a degree as others to say you've never had anything go wrong for you. ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
SerpentBlade Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2004.03.05 21:38:00 -
[10] Don't get me wrong, i LOVE EVE.. otherwise i'd have quit long ago... in fact.. the only thing i really hate is the little things the game leaves out (and has left out for very long periods of times)... and the insensitivity of GMs. The only reason you got to see those exploiters put in their place, and people reimbursed, was because it was well known to the entire player base. I can think a few times exploiters got me and my corpmates, and we were given the shaft by the GMs, and the cheaters are still roaming free. And to clarify: its not whining if its overwhelmingly justified that you've been cheated. Obviously you don't play the game to such a degree as others to say you've never had anything go wrong for you. ------------------------- I don't have a signature. |
 LiverpoolFC |
Posted - 2004.03.06 00:47:00 -
[11] I am sorry but i will not join a big log off. I lost millions when they removed zyd/mega from Tech II Ram/Rdb/Components etc. I bought mega/zyd when the prices where at their highest. I made 1000's of missiles just before they made them cheaper. But despite all this I still make lots of ISK and have a good time doing so. Maybe next time they change something I will make a few ISK, maybe I lose a bit. CCP say that game play can change with patches, and the game is so much better now that a few months agoo. I will sacrifce some ISK for better game play, I think your protest is doomed to fail. |
 LiverpoolFC |
Posted - 2004.03.06 00:47:00 -
[12] I am sorry but i will not join a big log off. I lost millions when they removed zyd/mega from Tech II Ram/Rdb/Components etc. I bought mega/zyd when the prices where at their highest. I made 1000's of missiles just before they made them cheaper. But despite all this I still make lots of ISK and have a good time doing so. Maybe next time they change something I will make a few ISK, maybe I lose a bit. CCP say that game play can change with patches, and the game is so much better now that a few months agoo. I will sacrifce some ISK for better game play, I think your protest is doomed to fail. |
 s4mp3r0r |
Posted - 2004.03.06 11:22:00 -
[13] Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 06/03/2004 11:23:35 Serpent, I'll join you. Why ? Not because EVE is a crappy game or I've been shafted by GM's but because I want to remind them who is important here. It's about the players, not them making cash. I also have had enuf of "hidden features" in patches for one thing. Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile ! |
 s4mp3r0r ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems |
Posted - 2004.03.06 11:22:00 -
[14] Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 06/03/2004 11:23:35 Serpent, I'll join you. Why ? Not because EVE is a crappy game or I've been shafted by GM's but because I want to remind them who is important here. It's about the players, not them making cash. I also have had enuf of "hidden features" in patches for one thing. |
 Macca |
Posted - 2004.03.07 00:58:00 -
[15] Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:59:38 Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:58:58
...No its not! Do you honestly think that CCP made this game to entertain you in the evenings? Face facts, do you work in your office or whatever the hell you do to make your boss or clients happy? NO! You do it to get money! Simple as that. I respect CCP for what they have done here. They have made an absolutly exellent game here and could of just left it at version 9xx. But we give them money every month for In-depth story lines, customer support (no matter how bad you think it is, it is still better than nothing, and a lot of them are volunteers), new in-game technology and better perfomance. Thank you CCP (not arse-licking, honest lol) |
 Macca Gallente |
Posted - 2004.03.07 00:58:00 -
[16] Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:59:38 Edited by: Macca on 07/03/2004 00:58:58
...No its not! Do you honestly think that CCP made this game to entertain you in the evenings? Face facts, do you work in your office or whatever the hell you do to make your boss or clients happy? NO! You do it to get money! Simple as that. I respect CCP for what they have done here. They have made an absolutly exellent game here and could of just left it at version 9xx. But we give them money every month for In-depth story lines, customer support (no matter how bad you think it is, it is still better than nothing, and a lot of them are volunteers), new in-game technology and better perfomance. Thank you CCP (not arse-licking, honest lol) |
 Nikolai Reidar |
Posted - 2004.03.07 01:15:00 -
[17] Haha, all the crybabies leave, allowing the rest of us to host uber-parties with less lag! :. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |
 Nikolai Reidar Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2004.03.07 01:15:00 -
[18] Haha, all the crybabies leave, allowing the rest of us to host uber-parties with less lag! :. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |
Haratu |
Posted - 2004.03.07 03:03:00 -
[19] If a GM has to deal with people who complain all the time I am not suprised people loose millions. I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
 Haratu Shinie Stuff Salvagers |
Posted - 2004.03.07 03:03:00 -
[20] If a GM has to deal with people who complain all the time I am not suprised people loose millions. I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Serilla |
Posted - 2004.03.07 04:21:00 -
[21] I would participate just to show them they cant just ignore people and get away with it 100% of the time. Ive been screwed many times to bugs in eve. And when castor came in eve wouldnt even run on my computer for 4 days. I have sent 4 emails to their customer service email. And never once have i gotten a reply to help resolve my situation. I have lost many ships due to bugs, all of them were denied by petitions. They say they dont have logs to prove stuff is really blown up. How did they prove the 100+ ships and items lost in yulai other day? I get evemails saying i was destroyed by "Eve System" in a .8 sec system. No replacement for crap. Seriously their customer ignorment service really ****ess me off! |
 Serilla The Syndicate Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2004.03.07 04:21:00 -
[22] I would participate just to show them they cant just ignore people and get away with it 100% of the time. Ive been screwed many times to bugs in eve. And when castor came in eve wouldnt even run on my computer for 4 days. I have sent 4 emails to their customer service email. And never once have i gotten a reply to help resolve my situation. I have lost many ships due to bugs, all of them were denied by petitions. They say they dont have logs to prove stuff is really blown up. How did they prove the 100+ ships and items lost in yulai other day? I get evemails saying i was destroyed by "Eve System" in a .8 sec system. No replacement for crap. Seriously their customer ignorment service really ****ess me off! __________________ |
 Species 8472 |
Posted - 2004.03.07 11:24:00 -
[23] Geez guys stop whineing ive lost close to 300 mill easy due to bugs etc and have even lost bounty prizes and lost sec ive petitioned and sometimes they can replace other times they cant . So u get over it forget about it, you earn it back again try another way , whatever you do have fun its a game dont whine Enjoy the bloody game its great ive been playing since 2 weeks after beta and still love it and i enjoy the fact that they keep updateing it instead of leaveing in its orignal stage. Remember its a game have fun "The Weak Will Perish". |
 Species 8472 Minmatar Omniscient Order |
Posted - 2004.03.07 11:24:00 -
[24] Geez guys stop whineing ive lost close to 300 mill easy due to bugs etc and have even lost bounty prizes and lost sec ive petitioned and sometimes they can replace other times they cant . So u get over it forget about it, you earn it back again try another way , whatever you do have fun its a game dont whine Enjoy the bloody game its great ive been playing since 2 weeks after beta and still love it and i enjoy the fact that they keep updateing it instead of leaveing in its orignal stage. Remember its a game have fun "The Weak Will Perish". |
Styrmir |
Posted - 2004.03.07 16:01:00 -
[25]
Can you elaborate as to what happened to you? Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum |
 Styrmir Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2004.03.07 16:01:00 -
[26]
Can you elaborate as to what happened to you? Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum |
 s4mp3r0r |
Posted - 2004.03.09 00:13:00 -
[27] Stuff like the Yulai thing ****es me off. People find a way to circumvent getting shot down by Concord. They show that CCP hasn't made Concord strong enough to handle stuff. This is THEIR fault, not the people killing people and surviving Concord. I like the idea of people being able to join Concord to help stuff like this. Now they ban Zombie corp because they used this so called "exploit". It's not their fault game mechanics are screwed like that. I understand that is bad that newbies get shot in Yulai but come on. Newbies are already protected too much with the new 40% insurance. PS : if they got a warning not to do it during their action or before, i agree with the banning. Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile ! |
s4mp3r0r ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems |
Posted - 2004.03.09 00:13:00 -
[28] Stuff like the Yulai thing ****es me off. People find a way to circumvent getting shot down by Concord. They show that CCP hasn't made Concord strong enough to handle stuff. This is THEIR fault, not the people killing people and surviving Concord. I like the idea of people being able to join Concord to help stuff like this. Now they ban Zombie corp because they used this so called "exploit". It's not their fault game mechanics are screwed like that. I understand that is bad that newbies get shot in Yulai but come on. Newbies are already protected too much with the new 40% insurance. PS : if they got a warning not to do it during their action or before, i agree with the banning. |
 Thomas Epsilon |
Posted - 2004.03.09 09:07:00 -
[29] Edited by: Thomas Epsilon on 09/03/2004 09:16:26
Omg you turn everything upside down. You name Zombie Inc. the victim of flawed game mechanics. The Yulai incident is not a good example of CCP being a bad software company. Look how they compensated for losses and took action to prevent such exploit from happening again. All software has bugs, so exploits can be expected. Zombie Inc., who exploited the flawed game mechanic got what they deserved. They did it with the knowledge of exploiting and they knew they were cheating. No mercy for people who do that. Your reasoning can be compared with persons who rob a store and then say it wasn't their fault, because the lock was weak. All software has bugs, unfortunately EvE has alot of bugs. This is something I would indeed complain about and I certainly hope CCP will improve their reputation by making EvE alot more stable. -------- Ontopic: I agree with the topicstarter on the issue that it is very annoying if CCP does not document all changes. However I think your protest action will not have many supporters ;) |
 Thomas Epsilon Dominators |
Posted - 2004.03.09 09:07:00 -
[30] Edited by: Thomas Epsilon on 09/03/2004 09:16:26
Omg you turn everything upside down. You name Zombie Inc. the victim of flawed game mechanics. The Yulai incident is not a good example of CCP being a bad software company. Look how they compensated for losses and took action to prevent such exploit from happening again. All software has bugs, so exploits can be expected. Zombie Inc., who exploited the flawed game mechanic got what they deserved. They did it with the knowledge of exploiting and they knew they were cheating. No mercy for people who do that. Your reasoning can be compared with persons who rob a store and then say it wasn't their fault, because the lock was weak. All software has bugs, unfortunately EvE has alot of bugs. This is something I would indeed complain about and I certainly hope CCP will improve their reputation by making EvE alot more stable. -------- Ontopic: I agree with the topicstarter on the issue that it is very annoying if CCP does not document all changes. However I think your protest action will not have many supporters ;) _________________________ Thomas Epsilon ISS Navy Task Force http://www.borgirc.net |
a'll |
Posted - 2004.03.10 11:42:00 -
[31]
I suppose that's the difference between having a satisfied customer base, yeah those people who pay the bills, and having an unsatisfied customer base. The trick lies in the 80/20 rule. As long as 80% of your customers are happy, then you can follow the path you are on. If it goes up, you can grow, or change your business strategy. If it drops below 80% you loose customers until it's back at 80/20. Loosing customers requires you to shrink. Apparantly it was above 80%, since the last few months have shown a growing player base. Which is good for all of us. But from these posts, it seems CCP is not entirely happy that ISK can so easily be had. I don't understand why. The real blocking problem lies in skill training time, and having enough Trit/Pyerite to make battleships. I don't see why they had to introduce certain 'unrevealed' changes, such as the tech 2 reprocessing for mega/zyd. I can understand making npcs harder in belts in 0.0 etc to prevent afk mining. They really didn't do it because of people complaining about how the npcs are too easy in empire 0.0 But what has happened? People afk mine 0.5-1.0 and noobs are told during their tutorial to go mine xxx veldspar to arrive at a belt and see 20 secure cans, and no roids. FUN! (Which, btw, I consider as much griefing as gate campers.) In the end, I'm fairly certain that the reason for this thread, is to announce the fact that people are tired of seeing changes that aren't announced and being told after the fact, "You could have tested the patch on Chaos." YEAH RIGHT. EQ would not have as many players as they do, if they would reply to petitions with, "Sorry we can't help you. Goodbye." compounded by the fact that this game serves a VERY small market niche. Each customer you get should be valued because once you loose one, it'll be twice as hard to get a new one. Juicy graphics can only take a game so far. Anyhow, I do this event almost everyday, 5 minutes before D/T and I remain offline for several hours. :) -a'll |
 a'll |
Posted - 2004.03.10 11:42:00 -
[32]
I suppose that's the difference between having a satisfied customer base, yeah those people who pay the bills, and having an unsatisfied customer base. The trick lies in the 80/20 rule. As long as 80% of your customers are happy, then you can follow the path you are on. If it goes up, you can grow, or change your business strategy. If it drops below 80% you loose customers until it's back at 80/20. Loosing customers requires you to shrink. Apparantly it was above 80%, since the last few months have shown a growing player base. Which is good for all of us. But from these posts, it seems CCP is not entirely happy that ISK can so easily be had. I don't understand why. The real blocking problem lies in skill training time, and having enough Trit/Pyerite to make battleships. I don't see why they had to introduce certain 'unrevealed' changes, such as the tech 2 reprocessing for mega/zyd. I can understand making npcs harder in belts in 0.0 etc to prevent afk mining. They really didn't do it because of people complaining about how the npcs are too easy in empire 0.0 But what has happened? People afk mine 0.5-1.0 and noobs are told during their tutorial to go mine xxx veldspar to arrive at a belt and see 20 secure cans, and no roids. FUN! (Which, btw, I consider as much griefing as gate campers.) In the end, I'm fairly certain that the reason for this thread, is to announce the fact that people are tired of seeing changes that aren't announced and being told after the fact, "You could have tested the patch on Chaos." YEAH RIGHT. EQ would not have as many players as they do, if they would reply to petitions with, "Sorry we can't help you. Goodbye." compounded by the fact that this game serves a VERY small market niche. Each customer you get should be valued because once you loose one, it'll be twice as hard to get a new one. Juicy graphics can only take a game so far. Anyhow, I do this event almost everyday, 5 minutes before D/T and I remain offline for several hours. :) -a'll |
 Pychian Vanervi |
Posted - 2004.03.10 12:39:00 -
[33] For gods sake its a game!!!! You pay a nominal sum of money to play for as long as you want a Month. There is a vast universe full of things to interact with and enjoy. If you are unhappy with a worth while problem then bring it up with the GMs. I am sure once they have sorted through the hundreds of repeat mails moaning about the loss of a shuttle to gate campers or roid rats and the small changes that have destroyed their millions of (VIRTUAL) money, they will get to reply to you. Just quit with the my isk my game Bull excrement! Its old and it bugs the crap out of me.Infact I may send a mail to CCP to see if they can do something about it. ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory! |
 Pychian Vanervi Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2004.03.10 12:39:00 -
[34] For gods sake its a game!!!! You pay a nominal sum of money to play for as long as you want a Month. There is a vast universe full of things to interact with and enjoy. If you are unhappy with a worth while problem then bring it up with the GMs. I am sure once they have sorted through the hundreds of repeat mails moaning about the loss of a shuttle to gate campers or roid rats and the small changes that have destroyed their millions of (VIRTUAL) money, they will get to reply to you. Just quit with the my isk my game Bull excrement! Its old and it bugs the crap out of me.Infact I may send a mail to CCP to see if they can do something about it. b]----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory![/b] [ |
PirateShampoo |
Posted - 2004.03.10 16:59:00 -
[35] Edited by: PirateShampoo on 12/03/2004 21:13:35 Well I dont think the GM's care.. Our credit cards are billed automatically at the end of each month.. But there is a way to change that  I recently sent in a peition that effected my gameplay greatly and i didnt hear ANYTHING for 4 days. CCP, Its time to start getting back to the basics of Customer service. Do you like movies about Gladiators? |
 PirateShampoo UK Corp Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2004.03.10 16:59:00 -
[36] Edited by: PirateShampoo on 12/03/2004 21:13:35 Well I dont think the GM's care.. Our credit cards are billed automatically at the end of each month.. But there is a way to change that I recently sent in a peition that effected my gameplay greatly and i didnt hear ANYTHING for 4 days. CCP, Its time to start getting back to the basics of Customer service. [img]http://ams.lotka.org/signature/PirateShampoo.jpg[img] |
Novamute |
Posted - 2004.03.10 17:52:00 -
[37]
Amen  Novamute |
 Novamute Gallente Four Horsemen |
Posted - 2004.03.10 17:52:00 -
[38]
Amen  |
eXe Galanodel |
Posted - 2004.03.13 01:43:00 -
[39] Excuse me while i giggle internally.......... Thanks.  designed by redfish |
 eXe Galanodel Minmatar |
Posted - 2004.03.13 01:43:00 -
[40] Excuse me while i giggle internally.......... Thanks. designed by redfish |
 SeverusSnape |
Posted - 2004.03.13 01:56:00 -
[41] Edited by: SeverusSnape on 13/03/2004 01:59:31 Worst....protest....ever. |
 SeverusSnape Caldari The Collective |
Posted - 2004.03.13 01:56:00 -
[42] Edited by: SeverusSnape on 13/03/2004 01:59:31 Worst....protest....ever. |
SwitchBl4d3 |
Posted - 2004.03.13 16:13:00 -
[43] sweet no lock yet. Ive always wanted to say in before the lock. but i cant now. I'll wait for another. also we good boycott there UK high st chain Iceland. "Teh lord of Nonni" |
 SwitchBl4d3 Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2004.03.13 16:13:00 -
[44] sweet no lock yet. Ive always wanted to say in before the lock. but i cant now. I'll wait for another. also we good boycott there UK high st chain Iceland.
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Synapse Archae |
Posted - 2004.03.13 18:54:00 -
[45] meh. I like the game and I like CCP. --------------------------------------------- [/IMG]http://millerfam.org/eve/synapse_logo.jpg[/IMG] Everyone deserves a chance to live. My job is to make sure they get it. |
 Synapse Archae Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries Pure. |
Posted - 2004.03.13 18:54:00 -
[46] meh. I like the game and I like CCP. - - -  These elite slaves are exceptionally well suited for physical labor. |
Rancid Mare |
Posted - 2004.03.19 12:10:00 -
[47]
lol  totaly agree with whats being said in this tread. ccp need to treat their customer base hell of a lot better than they do at the moment. the game is the reason i am here. ccp will be the reason i leave. Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals. Our Webby Recruitement Videos here |
 Rancid Mare Caldari RONA Corporation |
Posted - 2004.03.19 12:10:00 -
[48]
lol totaly agree with whats being said in this tread. ccp need to treat their customer base hell of a lot better than they do at the moment. the game is the reason i am here. ccp will be the reason i leave. Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals. Our Webby Recruitement Videos here |
Davlo Eh'Lar |
Posted - 2004.03.19 12:14:00 -
[49]
Lol. Farmfoods do much better deals on frozen stuff anyways. |
 Davlo Eh'Lar Aliastra |
Posted - 2004.03.19 12:14:00 -
[50]
Lol. Farmfoods do much better deals on frozen stuff anyways. |
 Harisdrop |
Posted - 2004.03.19 15:11:00 -
[51] I say logoff at 11:00 gmt any day. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |
 Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn |
Posted - 2004.03.19 15:11:00 -
[52] I say logoff at 11:00 gmt any day. New NPC NPC Market |
Vesper |
Posted - 2004.03.21 19:38:00 -
[53] Thats it I am now filing a petion...all the *****ing has made me fly into a sun thus costing me my ship. I am amazed with how complex the game is that it runs so well...I agree things happen and it sucks if peeps dont like it go play sims , i heard their customer support is good. Long live veldspar!!!!!!!!!! |
 Vesper |
Posted - 2004.03.21 19:38:00 -
[54] Thats it I am now filing a petion...all the *****ing has made me fly into a sun thus costing me my ship. I am amazed with how complex the game is that it runs so well...I agree things happen and it sucks if peeps dont like it go play sims , i heard their customer support is good. Long live veldspar!!!!!!!!!! |
Skully |
Posted - 2004.03.22 08:56:00 -
[55] Better than your logging off to protest would be for you to stop playing this game and leave....would save you some money and us your stupid post |
 Skully Caldari Solo for UNCLE |
Posted - 2004.03.22 08:56:00 -
[56] Better than your logging off to protest would be for you to stop playing this game and leave....would save you some money and us your stupid post |
Maud Dib |
Posted - 2004.03.26 15:23:00 -
[57] This got tried by a handful of people a few months ago. They logged off and nobody noticed. The reason then is the same reason that it will fail now. Most people are really pleased with the game and it's going to take a lot to change that. |
 Maud Dib Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction |
Posted - 2004.03.26 15:23:00 -
[58] This got tried by a handful of people a few months ago. They logged off and nobody noticed. The reason then is the same reason that it will fail now. Most people are really pleased with the game and it's going to take a lot to change that. |
Matthew Xulian |
Posted - 2004.03.26 15:48:00 -
[59] I don't mean to flame, but, wouldn't be more effect to cancel your subscription then just log off at a set time? If you don't like the game/where its going, don't play. Just my opinion, good luck with your protest. |
 Matthew Xulian |
Posted - 2004.03.26 15:48:00 -
[60] I don't mean to flame, but, wouldn't be more effect to cancel your subscription then just log off at a set time? If you don't like the game/where its going, don't play. Just my opinion, good luck with your protest. |
Posmart |
Posted - 2004.03.26 20:51:00 -
[61] its because this game appeals to the "achiever" player type in that Bartle MUD taxonomy. what it needs (as everyone keeps saying) is more trivial but fun stuff you don't get paid for but don't mind not being paid for, and less emphasis on finding a little niche to exploit so that the player can dominate and "beat" the game by getting the max amount of money per unit of time spent logged on. However, the kind of "trivial but fun" things everyone has great ideas about in the ideas lab are hard to implement given the nature of the internet and bandwidth and all the rest of it. Don't you think CCP know what great things a game like this could do if the whole world could instantly send as much data as they liked over and back through the crappy copper wires or whatever the hell the internet is made of? for example, just changing those Concord news boards so that players can advertise their (mis)deeds sounds like a right pain in the arse I think most people start and continue in this game because they can see its potential. I'm quite happy to give it another 3-6 months (and keep on sliding the once-mighty dollar) for 50 quid. I'm glad your stupid little missile building or zydrine niche has been screwed - get over it. There is just so much whinging on these boards and it's the same thing every time. my favourite is "hey, since the last patch, are people still getting implant drops cos I'm not.....oh tell a lie 2 days later it's ok again" and ENDLESS speculation about bloody the Blueprint lottery and research points. Go and look up lottery in the dictionary, some people get lucky and some people get lucky twice or three times in a short space of time. Rant over (Just realised - this is a meta-whinge) |
 Posmart |
Posted - 2004.03.26 20:51:00 -
[62] its because this game appeals to the "achiever" player type in that Bartle MUD taxonomy. what it needs (as everyone keeps saying) is more trivial but fun stuff you don't get paid for but don't mind not being paid for, and less emphasis on finding a little niche to exploit so that the player can dominate and "beat" the game by getting the max amount of money per unit of time spent logged on. However, the kind of "trivial but fun" things everyone has great ideas about in the ideas lab are hard to implement given the nature of the internet and bandwidth and all the rest of it. Don't you think CCP know what great things a game like this could do if the whole world could instantly send as much data as they liked over and back through the crappy copper wires or whatever the hell the internet is made of? for example, just changing those Concord news boards so that players can advertise their (mis)deeds sounds like a right pain in the arse I think most people start and continue in this game because they can see its potential. I'm quite happy to give it another 3-6 months (and keep on sliding the once-mighty dollar) for 50 quid. I'm glad your stupid little missile building or zydrine niche has been screwed - get over it. There is just so much whinging on these boards and it's the same thing every time. my favourite is "hey, since the last patch, are people still getting implant drops cos I'm not.....oh tell a lie 2 days later it's ok again" and ENDLESS speculation about bloody the Blueprint lottery and research points. Go and look up lottery in the dictionary, some people get lucky and some people get lucky twice or three times in a short space of time. Rant over (Just realised - this is a meta-whinge) |
Ishihiro tanaka |
Posted - 2004.03.27 14:19:00 -
[63] Lol, logging off doesn't affect your monthly payment. Those who aim at nothing, will most certainly hit that! |
 Ishihiro tanaka Amarr Ascendancy Inc. |
Posted - 2004.03.27 14:19:00 -
[64] Lol, logging off doesn't affect your monthly payment. Those who aim at nothing, will most certainly hit that! |
Rex Mortalis |
Posted - 2004.03.28 17:25:00 -
[65] quote: '(and keep on sliding the once-mighty dollar) for 50 quid.' Interesting: hasn't eve not changed its billing currency from $ to euros? - much stronger than the dollar by about ú2 per month? I think that is cheeky - or am i wrong about the currency change? |
 Rex Mortalis Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2004.03.28 17:25:00 -
[66] quote: '(and keep on sliding the once-mighty dollar) for 50 quid.' Interesting: hasn't eve not changed its billing currency from $ to euros? - much stronger than the dollar by about ú2 per month? I think that is cheeky - or am i wrong about the currency change? |
Jerek Laz |
Posted - 2004.03.28 20:16:00 -
[67] Dearie me... Frankly, lets think about this; on average, you get how many players a day? 5K at least? Ok... now, since the majority are happy with the game (Or seem to be), lets say only a small amount petition each day, say 5%. That's still 250 people. Perhaps per day. How many support staff do you reckon they have? I doubt there'd be that many, given that they have to pay for publishing, advertising, merchandise, server engineers etc. So, limited staff + loads of whining peitions witha f ew valid points. Give them a break for goodness sake! You're trying to balance a game that has 7000+ INDIVIDUALS who all have their own ideas. Just like in a real economy, you're gonna get screwed if something goes the wrong way. Cut them some slack. For the most part, the game runs fine, and of course it'll be buggy. It's a very complex game. Trust, you didn't WANT to see it during beta... though that display at ECTS was quite nice... anyway, people are getting all high and mighty about how much they want the devs to do for THEM.... I don't hear much about the community. So, give them some slack.. four days! that's pretty good if they're sifitng thru a load of emails and petitions from new players who are pnicking or asking for help because they just got podded by some self-righteous peopl who want to universe crafted in their image. Ok, reading that last paragraph, i'm getting vitriolic... apologies, but really; these guys put in a lot of work for us, so whining about how you lost a few mil (When you pobably already have loads) will do nothing save probably discouraging them from releasing ANY new updates. Hey, if this was a Mircosoft product, it'd crash a lot more AND email your credit card details all over the shop... whilst not really letting you play because "DX has an error in windows: it doesn't like it..." Ok, thank you... now going to go back and play this rather good game... Jerek Laz -------------------------------------------- "I say that every prince must desire to be considered merciful and not cruel; nevertheless, he must take care not to misuse this mercy. Cesare Borgia was considered cruel; nonetheless his cruelty had brought ORDER to Romagna, united, restored it to PEACE and OBEDIENCE." -Machiavelli The Prince |
 Jerek Laz Amarr PIE Inc. |
Posted - 2004.03.28 20:16:00 -
[68] Dearie me... Frankly, lets think about this; on average, you get how many players a day? 5K at least? Ok... now, since the majority are happy with the game (Or seem to be), lets say only a small amount petition each day, say 5%. That's still 250 people. Perhaps per day. How many support staff do you reckon they have? I doubt there'd be that many, given that they have to pay for publishing, advertising, merchandise, server engineers etc. So, limited staff + loads of whining peitions witha f ew valid points. Give them a break for goodness sake! You're trying to balance a game that has 7000+ INDIVIDUALS who all have their own ideas. Just like in a real economy, you're gonna get screwed if something goes the wrong way. Cut them some slack. For the most part, the game runs fine, and of course it'll be buggy. It's a very complex game. Trust, you didn't WANT to see it during beta... though that display at ECTS was quite nice... anyway, people are getting all high and mighty about how much they want the devs to do for THEM.... I don't hear much about the community. So, give them some slack.. four days! that's pretty good if they're sifitng thru a load of emails and petitions from new players who are pnicking or asking for help because they just got podded by some self-righteous peopl who want to universe crafted in their image. Ok, reading that last paragraph, i'm getting vitriolic... apologies, but really; these guys put in a lot of work for us, so whining about how you lost a few mil (When you pobably already have loads) will do nothing save probably discouraging them from releasing ANY new updates. Hey, if this was a Mircosoft product, it'd crash a lot more AND email your credit card details all over the shop... whilst not really letting you play because "DX has an error in windows: it doesn't like it..." Ok, thank you... now going to go back and play this rather good game... Jerek Laz -------------------------------------------- Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor |
Fager |
Posted - 2004.03.28 21:40:00 -
[69] Ok... I just want to say that CCP has the best and fastest custummor support ever... The reson you dont get what you happen to lose to buggs many times is due to no hard evidence... IF CCP would give back everything everyone complained about.. that could EASILY be used to get more back then you lost... that would be the worst exploit in eve... understand that logs over 7k peops cant be that detailed so everything can be showned... and the yulai thingy was due to it was on such a big scale so i guess they loosend the strings a little.. thats how i ssee it and i cant think of any better way for CCP to handle it.... So just face the facts... **** HAPPENS  ... live with it.."I can predict the movement of the stars but not the madness of men" Xel'Naga Forums (ingame to register):http://www.spiderweb.se/xnc |
 Fager Caldari Xel'Naga Corp |
Posted - 2004.03.28 21:40:00 -
[70] Ok... I just want to say that CCP has the best and fastest custummor support ever... The reson you dont get what you happen to lose to buggs many times is due to no hard evidence... IF CCP would give back everything everyone complained about.. that could EASILY be used to get more back then you lost... that would be the worst exploit in eve... understand that logs over 7k peops cant be that detailed so everything can be showned... and the yulai thingy was due to it was on such a big scale so i guess they loosend the strings a little.. thats how i ssee it and i cant think of any better way for CCP to handle it.... So just face the facts... **** HAPPENS ... live with it.."I can predict the movement of the stars but not the madness of men" |
Zed Nash |
Posted - 2004.03.31 04:58:00 -
[71] So you want everyone to log off in protest of the fact that you lost money on an undocumented update? CCP's game, not yours. They can make any changes to any thing they want, at any time. And at no point do they need to consult, or even inform you. Read your EULA, it's very enlightening. Regardless, if an undocumented update made you millions of ISK instead of losing it, you wouldn't be here complaining or trying to stage a protest. So keep crying...................  |
 Zed Nash |
Posted - 2004.03.31 04:58:00 -
[72] So you want everyone to log off in protest of the fact that you lost money on an undocumented update? CCP's game, not yours. They can make any changes to any thing they want, at any time. And at no point do they need to consult, or even inform you. Read your EULA, it's very enlightening. Regardless, if an undocumented update made you millions of ISK instead of losing it, you wouldn't be here complaining or trying to stage a protest. So keep crying................... "Maya Rkell is my online stalker." |
Trent Cooper |
Posted - 2004.03.31 05:12:00 -
[73] Great idea! YOU log off. 8000 other players stay online and have a good time. Heartfelt sympathy. I've also had my whole gaming strategy turned upside down by a patch or two. Adapt Diversify Roll with the punches |
 Trent Cooper |
Posted - 2004.03.31 05:12:00 -
[74] Great idea! YOU log off. 8000 other players stay online and have a good time. Heartfelt sympathy. I've also had my whole gaming strategy turned upside down by a patch or two. Adapt Diversify Roll with the punches |
 Viront Sniggerdly |
Posted - 2007.01.21 14:41:00 -
[75] Edited by: Viront on 21/01/2007 14:37:29 ahhhh old thread oops |
 Bigby angels of darkness LTD Interstellar Starbase Syndicate |
Posted - 2007.01.29 12:32:00 -
[76] that's one helluva necro |
 Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo. |
Posted - 2007.01.29 21:37:00 -
[77]
Half Assed Rhymage |
 chuckus |
Posted - 2007.01.30 03:05:00 -
[78] Hi, Im going to add my $.02 because this kind of complaining is rather annoying. In the soon to be 3 years I have been playing EVE.. I have only had one Petition submitted not resolved in the manner I would have prefered. Every ship loss due to either getting dropped by the server or a realy prolonged lag spike has been compensated. If you do happen to suffer a loss and have to file a petition, you may want to wait a bit, calm down and not flame the nice gm's who have to read them. That and providing as much information as possible, ie killmails to nail down specific times.. logs if you save them etc. As for your logging off.. be my guest, reduces lag for the rest of us. This is not a 'Fast' game, it never has been, EVE is a long term investment and if that is not realy what you are looking for you might want to find something else to spend your money on that will give you the instant gratification you seek. Cheers :) Chuckus |
 Banedon Runestar Gallente Blue Star Enterprises |
Posted - 2007.01.30 20:16:00 -
[79] The powers of the NecroThreader are strong in this one I see... ----- Blue Star Enterprises |
 Santiago Cortes Caldari Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department  |
Posted - 2007.01.31 01:08:00 -
[80] *Locked* I'm afraid it's time for this thread to join the big log-off in the sky. [center]Email Us | http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/forumrules.asp[b][red][u |
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