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Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security	Posted - 2007.11.24 09:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Verx Interis on 24/11/2007 09:45:09 From the Eve chronicle "The Crystal Boulevard:" Quote: Any citizen with half a brain can understand that the freedoms that let us wear translucent clothing aren't exactly looked on favorably elsewhere Now, I'm sure anyone here can go make an Avatar for a Female Gallente character who appears to be wearing transparent plastic as a "shirt". Normally the Character Portrait doesn't go far enough to expose anything, but in Ambulation, with full body models... Yeah What is going to happen about that..? -----sig-starts-here------ I survived Armageddon Day. I'm just too lazy to put a picture of a nuke in here.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.24 09:47:00 - [2] They're only translucent at the shoulders... it becomes a full almish frock below that Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.11.24 09:50:00 - [3] Edited by: Arvald on 24/11/2007 09:50:03 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny They're only translucent at the shoulders... it becomes a full almish frock below that i dont see why it would because the body models show all that stuff --------------------------- Im in your forums derailing your threads
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.24 09:53:00 - [4] Arvy didn't get it.... Ba-ZING!!! Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.24 09:53:00 - [5] I think Gallente males are going to be hawt! --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Solant Minmatar Ventis Secundis R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:02:00 - [6] I think a more important question to ask is the amount of dog crap on the ground in gallente stations.
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:05:00 - [7] Edited by: Verx Interis on 24/11/2007 10:05:38 Originally by: Solant I think a more important question to ask is the amount of dog crap on the ground in gallente stations. ......SayTheWha...? This has what exactly to do with what in what way? -----sig-starts-here------ I survived Armageddon Day. I'm just too lazy to put a picture of a nuke in here.
Andre Ricard Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:20:00 - [8] As the WRITER of said Chronicle, I can actually provide something of an answer here. If you look at the Quafe ads in the Gallente pleasure stations or occasionally on the billboards, you'll notice that the "translucent" outfit choosable in character creation actually has strips that cover up the really naughty bits. So if the outfits make it into ambulation, they won't get the game an AO rating. That said, I believe Torfi mentioned that Fanfest that a lot of the costumes were being reworked by an actual costume designer, and he showed off a few concepts, including a Gallente woman, in something a little less ridiculous. So it's very possible the current perspex dresses may go the way of the dodo come Ambulation. ----- Character back under original management.
Danae Melios Azteca Transportation Unlimited	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Andre Ricard As the WRITER of said Chronicle, I can actually provide something of an answer here. If you look at the Quafe ads in the Gallente pleasure stations or occasionally on the billboards, you'll notice that the "translucent" outfit choosable in character creation actually has strips that cover up the really naughty bits. So if the outfits make it into ambulation, they won't get the game an AO rating. That said, I believe Torfi mentioned that Fanfest that a lot of the costumes were being reworked by an actual costume designer, and he showed off a few concepts, including a Gallente woman, in something a little less ridiculous. So it's very possible the current perspex dresses may go the way of the dodo come Ambulation. But...but...ambulation...my avatar...damn. CCP, don't pre-nerf my ambulator! Originally by: game box Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:42:00 - [10] I guess subscription will increase? Gallente vs night elves... not much of a competition really...
Horchan Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.24 11:24:00 - [11] /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? --- Originally by: VJ Maverick Jita is closed on Sundays. It's a holy day.
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security	Posted - 2007.11.24 11:24:00 - [12] Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? Exactly -----sig-starts-here------ I survived Armageddon Day. I'm just too lazy to put a picture of a nuke in here.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.24 11:27:00 - [13] Cuts arm and leg holes in a pod Originally by:* ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.11.24 11:30:00 - [14] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/11/2007 11:31:23 Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? I would be more concerned about your lack of arms. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.11.24 13:59:00 - [15] Edited by: N1fty on 24/11/2007 13:59:00 Originally by: Jowen Datloran Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/11/2007 11:31:23 Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? I would be more concerned about your lack of arms. AHAHAHA! I'm seriously hoping that Amarr get a bit less fugly, have you seen my guy? Brrr... ============================================
Snake Doctor MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.11.24 14:04:00 - [16] Originally by: N1fty Edited by: N1fty on 24/11/2007 13:59:00 Originally by: Jowen Datloran Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/11/2007 11:31:23 Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? I would be more concerned about your lack of arms. AHAHAHA! I'm seriously hoping that Amarr get a bit less fugly, have you seen my guy? Brrr... Your guy? Fugly's not the problem--- Have you seen Civire females? They all look alike Even moreso- look at the Achura females. God forbid they all start wearing the same clothes... Originally by: Paulo Damarr Join the worlds largest single server and fastest growing community of Unofficial and illegitimate EULA police! Join Macrointel!
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2007.11.24 14:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Andre Ricard As the WRITER of said Chronicle, I can actually provide something of an answer here. If you look at the Quafe ads in the Gallente pleasure stations or occasionally on the billboards, you'll notice that the "translucent" outfit choosable in character creation actually has strips that cover up the really naughty bits. So if the outfits make it into ambulation, they won't get the game an AO rating. That said, I believe Torfi mentioned that Fanfest that a lot of the costumes were being reworked by an actual costume designer, and he showed off a few concepts, including a Gallente woman, in something a little less ridiculous. So it's very possible the current perspex dresses may go the way of the dodo come Ambulation. I'm disappointed, in a cold cruel hard sci-fi MMO where the averager player is 20+ (according to devs), we're gonna get a kiddy cop out? It was having the balls to let eve be a elitist and brilliantly difficult game to get into that made me fall in love with it, it's flacid decisions and changes to boost playerbase irrespective of experience that are making me look about for another game :( I actually liked it when the tutorials dumped you in space and made you ask someone what the hell to do and how to do it A new tool in the fight for balance?
Lrrp Minmatar Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.11.24 14:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/11/2007 11:31:23 Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? I would be more concerned about your lack of arms. You actually noticed her arms? So what is the sauciest Gallente avatar possible?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.24 14:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/11/2007 11:31:23 Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? I would be more concerned about your lack of arms. Actually, she's just standing in a "military" style position with her arms behind her back. Quite simple to see My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Aindrias Amarr Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:50:00 - [20] Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? The purpetual question... Can you touch your elbows together behind your back?
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Aindrias Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? The purpetual question... Can you touch your elbows together behind your back? No, but when I tried it got rid of an annoying stiff spot in my back that I'd been trying to clear for an hour. Thanks. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Aion Amarra Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:33:00 - [22] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Aindrias The purpetual question... Can you touch your elbows together behind your back? No, but when I tried it got rid of an annoying stiff spot in my back that I'd been trying to clear for an hour. Thanks. Huh. I actually managed to do it on the second attempt. Without bigger problems, too.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:39:00 - [23] Anyone remember a couple of news stories from 2004/5 or so, featuring a Gallente gonzo journalist? One was about BPOs, and it described how he protested some changes by wearing a suit made of translucent blue BPOs, with a gap leaving his genitals exposed. So you never can tell with those crazy Gallente liberals. Logoffs
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.11.24 18:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Erim Solfara Originally by: Andre Ricard As the WRITER of said Chronicle, I can actually provide something of an answer here. If you look at the Quafe ads in the Gallente pleasure stations or occasionally on the billboards, you'll notice that the "translucent" outfit choosable in character creation actually has strips that cover up the really naughty bits. So if the outfits make it into ambulation, they won't get the game an AO rating. That said, I believe Torfi mentioned that Fanfest that a lot of the costumes were being reworked by an actual costume designer, and he showed off a few concepts, including a Gallente woman, in something a little less ridiculous. So it's very possible the current perspex dresses may go the way of the dodo come Ambulation. I'm disappointed, in a cold cruel hard sci-fi MMO where the averager player is 20+ (according to devs), we're gonna get a kiddy cop out? It was having the balls to let eve be a elitist and brilliantly difficult game to get into that made me fall in love with it, it's flacid decisions and changes to boost playerbase irrespective of experience that are making me look about for another game :( I actually liked it when the tutorials dumped you in space and made you ask someone what the hell to do and how to do it Reminds me of the time in local when a guy was complaining how absolutely crap Eve was when it took him two hours to fly from the gate to the station... he hadn't discovered how to warp yet. There are old soliders, and there are bold soliders. But there are very few old, bold soliders.
Danae Melios Azteca Transportation Unlimited	Posted - 2007.11.24 18:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Avernus Reminds me of the time in local when a guy was complaining how absolutely crap Eve was when it took him two hours to fly from the gate to the station... he hadn't discovered how to warp yet. Aye, the good old days where the noobs and the newbs were quickly separated by who purchased an account and who left after two days. Originally by: game box Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin.
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security	Posted - 2007.11.24 20:31:00 - [26] Originally by: N1fty Edited by: N1fty on 24/11/2007 13:59:00 Originally by: Jowen Datloran Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/11/2007 11:31:23 Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? I would be more concerned about your lack of arms. AHAHAHA! I'm seriously hoping that Amarr get a bit less fugly, have you seen my guy? Brrr... Hey! I'm not that ugly! I just.. crapped my pants... or something like that.. yeah.. -----sig-starts-here------ I survived Armageddon Day. I'm just too lazy to put a picture of a nuke in here.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2007.11.24 20:35:00 - [27] I'm still looking forward to seeing my Civire . And getting to rebuild their appearance . Say no to knee-jerk additions and nerfs, mmkay?
Thunderguts Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.11.24 20:49:00 - [28] I am looking forward to seeing some hot Minmatar girls in all that black leather and FM boots.
Yuna Higurashi	Posted - 2007.11.24 20:59:00 - [29] Caldari females DO NOT all look the same! >:(
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.11.24 21:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Snake Doctor Your guy? Fugly's not the problem--- Have you seen Civire females? They all look alike Even moreso- look at the Achura females. God forbid they all start wearing the same clothes... I tried very hard to break the mold when it came to designing a Civire female. I don't see many players choosing the "red" hair option for Civire women. Alas it still looks like we all "hail" from the same tribe of Amazons. Achura women are all clones...it would seem. Achura men all strike me as looking like "Dr. No" from the James Bond movie. Much more variation is needed with all the avatar options.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.24 22:59:00 - [31] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny They're only translucent at the shoulders... it becomes a full almish frock below that It was as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. --- Join BH-DL Skills
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.11.24 23:08:00 - [32] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I think Gallente males are going to be hawt! U know it baby! CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Kakita J Placid Reborn Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.11.24 23:12:00 - [33] But seriously, it would so own to have some more revealing clothing options being illegal/contraband in Amarr space and stations - all of the ugly baldies coming to our corner of space to get an eye full. Also, I sure hope the optional clothing designs have some sort of racial themes going, like the ships. -------------------------------------- "They better fix the bleep bleep bleep jump bleep gates before I bleepbleepbleep and then some."
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2007.11.25 00:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Val Vympel Originally by: Snake Doctor Your guy? Fugly's not the problem--- Have you seen Civire females? They all look alike Even moreso- look at the Achura females. God forbid they all start wearing the same clothes... I tried very hard to break the mold when it came to designing a Civire female. I don't see many players choosing the "red" hair option for Civire women. Alas it still looks like we all "hail" from the same tribe of Amazons. ... Much more variation is needed with all the avatar options. This. I'd personally love more options with the Civire, longer hairstyles would be a nice addition, among other things. I am afraid to see some of the outfits designed in Ambulation by the players, to be honest. Say no to knee-jerk additions and nerfs, mmkay?
Valea Wrath Of Khaine	Posted - 2007.11.25 00:22:00 - [35] There will be two distributions of ambulation. Players with older computers may choose to retain the boobless version of EVE Online, whereas new players will be offered an additional download which will run in the background, allowing players to download the boob version while simultaneously playing the boobless version. Unfortunately the boob version of ambulation will require shader model 4, to see if you computer supports shader model 4, please contact your manufacturer. --- signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected])
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 00:50:00 - [36] Originally by: Valea There will be two distributions of ambulation. Players with older computers may choose to retain the boobless version of EVE Online, whereas new players will be offered an additional download which will run in the background, allowing players to download the boob version while simultaneously playing the boobless version. Unfortunately the boob version of ambulation will require shader model 4, to see if you computer supports shader model 4, please contact your manufacturer. BOOBHEAD would approve of this Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Covert Oops	Posted - 2007.11.25 02:00:00 - [37] All I can say is the Gallente Females better have nice round rear ends or I'm canceling my sub.
Masahara	Posted - 2007.11.25 02:27:00 - [38] who needs translucent clothing when i have a translucent HEAD
Philopoemen Locke DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 06:53:00 - [39] Am i the only one looking forward to making a big fat male civire with a weird face?
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.25 07:12:00 - [40] Edited by: Plutoinum on 25/11/2007 07:15:21 Edited by: Plutoinum on 25/11/2007 07:13:07 Hmm, I'm rather interested ine the Vherikor (spelling ?) females. I've to alts of those, because I liked their look. Now I've used tri exporter and looked at those meshes in the current client and the Vherikor one is the only model with a very high polygon count and a beautiful upper body including well-designed boobs. The dev, who designed that 3d model, really took a look at the character attributes and invested a bit more work there, so that it fits to the high charsma attribute. edit: I've just begun with 3d modeling myself and my first learning project is a female head. Maybe I model the rest, too, if I like the head.
Jin Jura	Posted - 2007.11.25 08:25:00 - [41] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 25/11/2007 07:22:35 Hmm, I'm rather interested ine the Vherikor (spelling ?) females. I've two alts of those, because I liked their look. Now I've used tri-exporter and looked at those meshes in the current client and the Vherikor one is the only model with a very high polygon count and a beautiful upper body including well-designed boobs. The dev, who designed that 3d model, really invested a bit more work there, so that it fits to the high charisma attribute. edit: I've just begun with 3d modeling myself and my first learning project is a female head. Maybe I model the rest, too, if I like the head. We all know you are a good friend.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2007.11.25 11:17:00 - [42] You know, I'm afraid to see what kind of outfits Goon tailors will make in Ambulation ... Say no to knee-jerk additions and nerfs, mmkay?
Wideen Eon Project	Posted - 2007.11.25 11:22:00 - [43] I'm sexeh Originally by: F'nog Your math intrigues me, and I wish to subscribe to its newsletter.
Whoa Bundy hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.25 11:40:00 - [44] Originally by: Masahara who needs translucent clothing when i have a translucent HEAD Scariest man in eve... .................... Speed tank works very well... That's because your target can't hit you as your sorry butt tucks your tail between your legs while you wail out into the distance, sissy boy
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.25 12:34:00 - [45] Edited by: Reiisha on 25/11/2007 12:35:32 OK, people need to take a step back here. There's horrible stuff happening on the news, which even children watch sometimes. Reports about carbombs, hundreds of dead, meanwhile celebrating the fact that 'our guys' have bombed the evil dudes - Implicating how those dudes got their bodies ripped apart and strewn over miles. Reports about child soldiers, killing with impunety and being used by dictators. Reports about people dying in tsunamis, earthquakes and mudslides. People hungering to death, not having water. Reports about crime syndicates running under their noses, literally. Then there's today's animation. Avatar, very popular at the moment, is about fighting. Fighting a lot. Other stuff on nickolodeon regularly has exposed animated brains and animals killing each other in the most horrible ways. Other channels just show advertisements for the pokemon and yugioh card games (they're not series anymore, not by a long shot). Now, all those prudes and hypocrites come on here to complain about the beauty of the human body, and how we shouldn't show this to kids since it's so bad for them. GET A F*G GRIP I so seriously get ***ed off at this crap. What the hell is this world coming to, praising activities that destroy life* and placing a taboo on activities that actually create it. Oh yes, i'm sure some prude american mod will come and edit this out, not even close to understanding what i'm actually saying and only concentrating on my hidden profanity. To you, moderator, look at the big letters above and read them in order before you even think about doing anything. Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Please explain to me why violence is good and sex is bad. I'm sorry if i sound like a raving madman, but this kind of stuff just makes me go nuts. EVE History Wiki
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 12:38:00 - [46] Violence is good, nakedness and shinanigins are bad Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:00:00 - [47] Originally by: Reiisha very angry post There's no need to go mad on the mods. I'm pretty certain they wouldn't even touch your post were it not for the implied swearing, and they may not bother even then. Your message is valid, but your approach isn't. So, first step - calm down, and maybe edit your post slightly to lose all the angry. Step 2 - well, I agree with you, to a degree. Sex, sexuality and the human body are all far more wonderful things than the sort of stuff you typically find on kid's TV (violence, social backstabbing, and more). However, that's not to say it's automatically a good idea to completely uncensor everything sexual because it is automatically "better" to be exposed to sex than to violence. Unfortunately, people's lives are wrecked just as much by over-exposure to sexual themes as they are by over-exposure to violence. I originally hail from a part of the UK with quite a high rate of teenage pregnancy. These kids spent their entire lives growing up with the notion that sex=good and parenthood=good. So what do they do? Start sleeping around at the age of 14, become parents at 16, spend the rest of their lives in council housing working low-paid jobs just so they can afford to raise their kid, who will promptly, sixteen years later, go on to repeat the same mistakes. My point here is that there's a balancing act to be performed. As responsible adults, we have to consider what we can do to spread a mature mindset. Now, CCP's got a fairly easy gig in that regard - I believe that the average player age of EVE is something like 27, so the vast majority of the playerbase can be expected to have already matured to the point where some artistically transparent clothing isn't going to have a profound effect on them. However, there is presumably still a minority demographic of minors. I'm not going to use the word "protected" here, but kids do need mature guidance when it comes to sexual themes. The best place to be is the middle ground. EVE is a mature setting, with exotic dancers and suchlike, but at the end of the day if some changes need to be made in the interests of presenting human sexuality in a mature and sensitive manner (as opposed to "ZOMG BOOBS!!!1") then I'm all for it. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 25/11/2007 12:35:32 OK, people need to take a step back here. There's horrible stuff happening on the news, which even children watch sometimes. Reports about carbombs, hundreds of dead, meanwhile celebrating the fact that 'our guys' have bombed the evil dudes - Implicating how those dudes got their bodies ripped apart and strewn over miles. Reports about child soldiers, killing with impunety and being used by dictators. Reports about people dying in tsunamis, earthquakes and mudslides. People hungering to death, not having water. Reports about crime syndicates running under their noses, literally. Then there's today's animation. Avatar, very popular at the moment, is about fighting. Fighting a lot. Other stuff on nickolodeon regularly has exposed animated brains and animals killing each other in the most horrible ways. Other channels just show advertisements for the pokemon and yugioh card games (they're not series anymore, not by a long shot). Now, all those prudes and hypocrites come on here to complain about the beauty of the human body, and how we shouldn't show this to kids since it's so bad for them. GET A F*G GRIP I so seriously get ***ed off at this crap. What the hell is this world coming to, praising activities that destroy life* and placing a taboo on activities that actually create it. Oh yes, i'm sure some prude american mod will come and edit this out, not even close to understanding what i'm actually saying and only concentrating on my hidden profanity. To you, moderator, look at the big letters above and read them in order before you even think about doing anything. Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Please explain to me why violence is good and sex is bad. I'm sorry if i sound like a raving madman, but this kind of stuff just makes me go nuts. I agree completely. A new tool in the fight for balance?
Blih Nox Gallente For Great Justice	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:52:00 - [49] Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 25/11/2007 12:35:32 OK, people need to take a step back here. There's horrible stuff happening on the news, which even children watch sometimes. Reports about carbombs, hundreds of dead, meanwhile celebrating the fact that 'our guys' have bombed the evil dudes - Implicating how those dudes got their bodies ripped apart and strewn over miles. Reports about child soldiers, killing with impunety and being used by dictators. Reports about people dying in tsunamis, earthquakes and mudslides. People hungering to death, not having water. Reports about crime syndicates running under their noses, literally. Then there's today's animation. Avatar, very popular at the moment, is about fighting. Fighting a lot. Other stuff on nickolodeon regularly has exposed animated brains and animals killing each other in the most horrible ways. Other channels just show advertisements for the pokemon and yugioh card games (they're not series anymore, not by a long shot). Now, all those prudes and hypocrites come on here to complain about the beauty of the human body, and how we shouldn't show this to kids since it's so bad for them. GET A F*G GRIP I so seriously get ***ed off at this crap. What the hell is this world coming to, praising activities that destroy life* and placing a taboo on activities that actually create it. Oh yes, i'm sure some prude american mod will come and edit this out, not even close to understanding what i'm actually saying and only concentrating on my hidden profanity. To you, moderator, look at the big letters above and read them in order before you even think about doing anything. Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Please explain to me why violence is good and sex is bad. I'm sorry if i sound like a raving madman, but this kind of stuff just makes me go nuts. /signed furthermore ......B00BS!!!
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 25/11/2007 12:35:32 OK, people need to take a step back here. There's horrible stuff happening on the news, which even children watch sometimes. Reports about carbombs, hundreds of dead, meanwhile celebrating the fact that 'our guys' have bombed the evil dudes - Implicating how those dudes got their bodies ripped apart and strewn over miles. Reports about child soldiers, killing with impunety and being used by dictators. Reports about people dying in tsunamis, earthquakes and mudslides. People hungering to death, not having water. Reports about crime syndicates running under their noses, literally. Then there's today's animation. Avatar, very popular at the moment, is about fighting. Fighting a lot. Other stuff on nickolodeon regularly has exposed animated brains and animals killing each other in the most horrible ways. Other channels just show advertisements for the pokemon and yugioh card games (they're not series anymore, not by a long shot). Now, all those prudes and hypocrites come on here to complain about the beauty of the human body, and how we shouldn't show this to kids since it's so bad for them. GET A F*G GRIP I so seriously get ***ed off at this crap. What the hell is this world coming to, praising activities that destroy life* and placing a taboo on activities that actually create it. Oh yes, i'm sure some prude american mod will come and edit this out, not even close to understanding what i'm actually saying and only concentrating on my hidden profanity. To you, moderator, look at the big letters above and read them in order before you even think about doing anything. Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Please explain to me why violence is good and sex is bad. I'm sorry if i sound like a raving madman, but this kind of stuff just makes me go nuts. Welcome to America. . . Dismembered bodies? Fine. Ultra-violent games? Fine. Naughty bits? COVER JUNIOR'S EYES! Sorry, we're prudes here with regards to sex. You should have seen the field day we had over here after the Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction". Europe in the meantime is a bit crazy when it comes to violent entertainment. Yes, I play Half-Life and Halo 3. No, I'm not going to go murder people because of it. Topless women on magazines in public view? They don't care. Pick your insanity. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
INTACTized Gallente Spartan Hoplites Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:46:00 - [51] Originally by: Thunderguts I am looking forward to seeing some hot Minmatar girls in all that black leather and FM boots. I must resist the urge to start a new character. ---Sig--- Before I put some crap in here I rather write it above. Impressive: Here
Ash Benson	Posted - 2007.11.26 08:03:00 - [52] Oh yeah, I can't wait for this! - Sexeh Ash ^_^
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.26 08:10:00 - [53] A better question is would my face still look as....Frighting? Rawr.
Eternal Hatred Amarr Pantsu Garu Limited Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.26 08:26:00 - [54] Violence is okay for kids. Naked human body is not for kids. Sex definetly is NOT for kids. Welcome to our society. You must understand human nature. We prefer destroying and killing rather than building and creating. Look at EVE f.ex. where pirating and scamming is more command and prefered view of life. You are more prone to destroy than build. It's just human nature. Those few of us who prefer later are boned __________________________________________ I'm a well known whorum warriors alt and my lucky number is 963409. It's great being an Amarr
Stephannus Calimben mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.26 09:05:00 - [55] Edited by: Stephannus Calimben on 26/11/2007 09:05:56 Originally by: Eternal Hatred Violence is okay for kids. Naked human body is not for kids. Sex definetly is NOT for kids. Welcome to our society. You must understand human nature. We prefer destroying and killing rather than building and creating. Look at EVE f.ex. where pirating and scamming is more command and prefered view of life. You are more prone to destroy than build. It's just human nature. Those few of us who prefer later are boned whether or not those prefering the latter get boned depends on which bits they've got. edit: oh and looking forward to reworking my avatar. saves me the 10 bucks to get a new portrait ______________ ...mmm fire... ______________
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.26 15:35:00 - [56] Originally by: Horchan /me looks at her avatar portrait. I wear clothes? I take it back. I'm all for ambulation :-o -- Let Us Avoid Systems Via Autopilot
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.11.26 15:55:00 - [57] Originally by: Jurgen Cartis Welcome to America. . . Dismembered bodies? Fine. Ultra-violent games? Fine. Naughty bits? COVER JUNIOR'S EYES! Quoted for truth. See also: "A man murdered someone! Oh, he owned a video game, that explains it." To be fair, the country was founded by people who thought that 17th-century England was too risque. __________________________________
Snake Doctor MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.11.26 15:57:00 - [58] I actually thought about doing a portrait swap... I had an old character that looks almost exactly like SD that I'd like to use. Join MacroIntel!
Slappy Happy	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:00:00 - [59] Originally by: Masahara who needs translucent clothing when i have a translucent HEAD This.
Iyanah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:18:00 - [60] Originally by: Verx Interis Edited by: Verx Interis on 24/11/2007 10:40:13 Edited by: Verx Interis on 24/11/2007 09:45:09 From the Eve chronicle "The Crystal Boulevard:" Quote: Any citizen with half a brain can understand that the freedoms that let us wear translucent clothing aren't exactly looked on favorably elsewhere Now, I'm sure anyone here can go make an Avatar for a Female Gallente character who appears to be wearing transparent plastic as a "shirt". Normally the Character Portrait doesn't go far enough to expose anything, but in Ambulation, with full body models... Yeah What is going to happen about that..? Edit: I use this character as an example. i'm sure the translucency will basicly result in an outfit that is 90% translucent, but with bits to cover one's modesty, as you will notice that the translucent outfits we can see seem to have varying degrees of translucency, there are bits that are more see-through and some bits that are pretty much opaque. Even at it's very worst I don't see this being any more revealing as the regular fantasy MMO staple that is the chainmail bikini, but with extra translucent bits over the top as well. ========================================== that's no moon... oh, wait, yes it is, the space station's out the other window.
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:04:00 - [61] Originally by: Verx Interis Edited by: Verx Interis on 24/11/2007 10:05:38 Originally by: Solant I think a more important question to ask is the amount of dog crap on the ground in gallente stations. ......SayTheWha...? This has what exactly to do with what in what way? snip Do not use your signature to troll or insult other EVE players snip - I somehow doubt Rauth put that :) Cortes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
Kharadran Sullath Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:18:00 - [62] Originally by: Jurgen Cartis Welcome to America. . . Dismembered bodies? Fine. Ultra-violent games? Fine. Naughty bits? COVER JUNIOR'S EYES! Sorry, we're prudes here with regards to sex. You should have seen the field day we had over here after the Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction". Europe in the meantime is a bit crazy when it comes to violent entertainment. Yes, I play Half-Life and Halo 3. No, I'm not going to go murder people because of it. Topless women on magazines in public view? They don't care. Pick your insanity. Jack Thompson. That is all. ------ Originally by: Graveyard Tan I call bull** and troll. If you are deaf**, how are you even able to read this or type replies?
Dirtee Girl Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:30:00 - [63] translucent clothing + dirtee = not work safe gameplay experience . be warned Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:16:00 - [64] I got it. I got it. Translucent clothing is going the way of tie-dye t-shirts and nylon shellsuits. ----- "Why can't you just be friends?" -- Oveur
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:21:00 - [65] I hope when they introduce walking in stations, you can changed the outfits you are wearing, perhaps buy clothing and such. signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected])
Harisdrop Gallente Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:39:00 - [66] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I think Gallente males are going to be hawt! You know it babe!
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.11.26 19:55:00 - [67] Originally by: Andre Ricard As the WRITER of said Chronicle, I can actually provide something of an answer here. If you look at the Quafe ads in the Gallente pleasure stations or occasionally on the billboards, you'll notice that the "translucent" outfit choosable in character creation actually has strips that cover up the really naughty bits. So if the outfits make it into ambulation, they won't get the game an AO rating. That said, I believe Torfi mentioned that Fanfest that a lot of the costumes were being reworked by an actual costume designer, and he showed off a few concepts, including a Gallente woman, in something a little less ridiculous. So it's very possible the current perspex dresses may go the way of the dodo come Ambulation. Pity, I was kinda looking forward to Areolas Online.
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.26 20:24:00 - [68] I have plans for Nachshon's clothing - a Caldari Navy uniform, only all the insignia have been replaced with Republic Fleet insignia. And a sword - a nice wakizashi. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.26 21:45:00 - [69] Translucent != transparent, anyway. Hints of naughty bits, not "technically covered" naughty bits.
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.26 21:47:00 - [70] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Violence is good, nakedness and shinanigins are bad Shenanigans?
Korran Minare Gallente Spaced Cowboys	Posted - 2007.11.26 21:49:00 - [71] Edited by: Korran Minare on 26/11/2007 21:49:12 depends on the type of shenanigans Originally by: Korran Minare what would you put on space pizza anyway????
The Hand Amarr Rebellion Fleet Shipyards	Posted - 2007.11.26 22:25:00 - [72] Why do i have this realy bad image of backdoor badit walking round in a Translucent bikini in my head now ;(
Aertaka Jarkerska	Posted - 2007.11.26 23:55:00 - [73] Originally by: Stitcher Unfortunately, people's lives are wrecked just as much by over-exposure to sexual themes as they are by over-exposure to violence. I originally hail from a part of the UK with quite a high rate of teenage pregnancy. These kids spent their entire lives growing up with the notion that sex=good and parenthood=good. So what do they do? Start sleeping around at the age of 14, become parents at 16, spend the rest of their lives in council housing working low-paid jobs just so they can afford to raise their kid, who will promptly, sixteen years later, go on to repeat the same mistakes. I live in the US, in Massachusetts, and I know a cop in Fall River, who got called to investigate a case of civil violence. It was a medium-sized house, with 5 generations living in it, and the oldest person was a 65-year-old guy . . .
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.27 00:38:00 - [74] Edited by: Stitcher on 27/11/2007 00:39:04 Originally by: Aertaka Jarkerska I live in the US, in Massachusetts, and I know a cop in Fall River, who got called to investigate a case of civil violence. It was a medium-sized house, with 5 generations living in it, and the oldest person was a 65-year-old guy . . . ...Implying that the average age of parenthood in that family was 13 yeah, that's just not right. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2007.11.27 00:43:00 - [75] Originally by: Korran Minare Edited by: Korran Minare on 26/11/2007 21:49:12 depends on the type of shag-nanigans fixed to get more twards the point ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Icy Z Superstars from Outer Space	Posted - 2007.11.27 01:15:00 - [76] Originally by: Yuna Higurashi Caldari females DO NOT all look the same! >:( O'course they do honey. And me lubs me translucent cloths... keeps me all comfy. Much ♥ to ya'll, and take it Icy Z
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security	Posted - 2007.11.27 03:16:00 - [77] Originally by: Icy Z Originally by: Yuna Higurashi Caldari females DO NOT all look the same! >:( O'course they do honey. And me lubs me translucent cloths... keeps me all comfy. Wow... Yours are an extremity.. It doesn't even look like you're wearing anything from the small forum icon -----sig-starts-here------ I survived Armageddon Day. I'm just too lazy to put a picture of a nuke in here.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.11.27 03:23:00 - [78] Edited by: voogru on 27/11/2007 03:22:54 Originally by: Verx Interis Originally by: Icy Z Originally by: Yuna Higurashi Caldari females DO NOT all look the same! >:( O'course they do honey. And me lubs me translucent cloths... keeps me all comfy. Wow... Yours are an extremity.. It doesn't even look like you're wearing anything from the small forum icon The bra surrounds everything. Now that's the way gallente is supposed to be. Except the boobs. Hate Farmers? Click Here
Aleria Angelis Strix Armaments and Defence Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.11.27 03:24:00 - [79] When ambulation hits, Gallente gals will once again have the title of hotest babes in EVE (A title stolen from them when those Achura tarts waltzed in)
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security	Posted - 2007.11.27 03:33:00 - [80] Edited by: Verx Interis on 27/11/2007 03:35:48 Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 27/11/2007 03:22:54 Originally by: Verx Interis Originally by: Icy Z Originally by: Yuna Higurashi Caldari females DO NOT all look the same! >:( O'course they do honey. And me lubs me translucent cloths... keeps me all comfy. Wow... Yours are an extremity.. It doesn't even look like you're wearing anything from the small forum icon The bra surrounds everything. Now that's the way gallente is supposed to be. Except the boobs. (It killed my post.. wtf?) I thought the bra was made to support the boobs... Those crazy Gallente.. -----sig-starts-here------ Ok I need a new sig so...
Eternal Hatred Amarr Pantsu Garu Limited Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.27 07:05:00 - [81] Originally by: Aleria Angelis When ambulation hits, Gallente gals will once again have the title of hotest babes in EVE (A title stolen from them when those Achura tarts waltzed in) I didn't receive that memo and good because it would have been fake one. No way those skinny clones can beat good ol' european breed __________________________________________ I'm a well known whorum warriors alt and my lucky number is 825706. It's great being an Amarr
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:34:00 - [82] Originally by: The Hand Why do i have this realy bad image of backdoor badit walking round in a Translucent bikini in my head now ;( Quoting for lulz -- Let Us Avoid Systems Via Autopilot
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Daikoku Fleet Shipyards	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:49:00 - [83] Originally by: Erim Solfara Originally by: Andre Ricard it's flacid decisions And therein lies the objection? ~Ryoji Tanakama Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
Syri Taneka Gallente Decimus Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.27 14:21:00 - [84] Edited by: Syri Taneka on 27/11/2007 14:25:43 Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 25/11/2007 12:35:32 OK, people need to take a step back here. There's horrible stuff happening on the news, which even children watch sometimes. Reports about carbombs, hundreds of dead, meanwhile celebrating the fact that 'our guys' have bombed the evil dudes - Implicating how those dudes got their bodies ripped apart and strewn over miles. Reports about child soldiers, killing with impunety and being used by dictators. Reports about people dying in tsunamis, earthquakes and mudslides. People hungering to death, not having water. Reports about crime syndicates running under their noses, literally. Then there's today's animation. Avatar, very popular at the moment, is about fighting. Fighting a lot. Other stuff on nickolodeon regularly has exposed animated brains and animals killing each other in the most horrible ways. Other channels just show advertisements for the pokemon and yugioh card games (they're not series anymore, not by a long shot). Now, all those prudes and hypocrites come on here to complain about the beauty of the human body, and how we shouldn't show this to kids since it's so bad for them. GET A F*G GRIP I so seriously get ***ed off at this crap. What the hell is this world coming to, praising activities that destroy life* and placing a taboo on activities that actually create it. Oh yes, i'm sure some prude american mod will come and edit this out, not even close to understanding what i'm actually saying and only concentrating on my hidden profanity. To you, moderator, look at the big letters above and read them in order before you even think about doing anything. Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Please explain to me why violence is good and sex is bad. I'm sorry if i sound like a raving madman, but this kind of stuff just makes me go nuts. **ography stops being ography when it's universally accepted to view it. They say we're being desensitized to violence by games, the media, and the real-life spillover. Frankly, we'd probably be a little better off if we were desensitized to sex and sexuality instead. I mean, here's a bunch of people getting worked up over 3D animated boobs. Would they care as much if it was more normal to see ***** everywhere? Personally, I feel that the implied mystery of covering one's skin is more arousing than showing it, but that is just me. Tight, "little left to the imagination" clothing > nothing left to imagine. And for the record, Caldari chicks are hotter than Gallente. /me prefers the violent ones to the sleepers. -------------------------------------- Bishop Endarr > christ, the church is a massive smack machine
Vladimir Antlerkov GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:13:00 - [85] Edited by: Vladimir Antlerkov on 27/11/2007 15:16:41 I had better be able to give my Deteis a neckbeard. Or at least more facial hair than this goatee. edit: And my Jin-Mei empire alt had better remain a disembodied head, or else I will be displeased. But not displeased enough to stop using him.
Der Komissar	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:50:00 - [86] Nudity in games is serious business. Think about this scenario in real life. The alarm clock rings, it is 8am and you get ready to go to work. You drink a cup of coffee made by an overly expensive cappuchino machine you got from your auntie. Then you go take a shower (it gets disturbing here, rated r) and from the mirror you might see a pair of boobies or your trusty meat mallet. This scenario makes me SICK.. SICK YOU HEAR ME. Mutilated bodies in 4pm news? Bring it on, I've been in the library! Anyway, translucent pvc-clothing in ambulation would be a reason to actually walk in those damned stations. PS. Any gallente women that would like to perform in my bar/night club?
James Damar Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:13:00 - [87] At Fanfest the question was brought up at the dev panel. The answer is, in your own captain quarters you will be naked, because you get out of the pod naked. But you can't go outside without clothing on. I was kinda suprised by this in a good way, since it is realism but there are parts of the world where it's not as normal or at least accepted that there is such a thing as the nude human body. Hope CCP doesn't change their mind about it in the year or so it's taking to come out.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:25:00 - [88] Edited by: Stitcher on 27/11/2007 16:25:56 Originally by: James Damar At Fanfest the question was brought up at the dev panel. The answer is, in your own captain quarters you will be naked, because you get out of the pod naked. But you can't go outside without clothing on. I was kinda suprised by this in a good way, since it is realism but there are parts of the world where it's not as normal or at least accepted that there is such a thing as the nude human body. Hope CCP doesn't change their mind about it in the year or so it's taking to come out. Interesting. I hadn't heard of this one. I guess this ties in to the morphing body - fat, skinny, muscly etc - of a player. It'd be nice if we could do some exercise in the quiet of our private quarters, perhaps, to help burn off fat, bulk up, or just work out the kinks and limber up after a term spent inside the capsule. ...after showering and throwing on a pair of shorts first, of course. I'm not terribly interested in staring at bare, pale Civire buttocks while Stitcher here does some pushups - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:53:00 - [89] People here are confusing nudity with sex. Both are completely different concepts. Ambulation should allow for the Gallente 'style' of clothing simply for that reason. EVE History Wiki
Syri Taneka Gallente Decimus Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:03:00 - [90] Of course we'll need personal gym equipments. All POD pilots do in space is sit in their pod, and get fed probably through an intravenous or esophogal tube, and unless you're wicked with tweaks, the metabolism quickly slows and the poor podder gets incredibly fat. Since gravity isn't a problem in the middle of a small egg-shaped pod filled with shock-absorbing gel, there's no risk to body function from all the adipose tissue. The most likely side effect of this fact is that people will want to keep a special "jump clone" on station they can transfer to that will be in good shape and appear like a normal being, instead of a blob. =P -------------------------------------- Bishop Endarr > christ, the church is a massive smack machine
Siresa Talesi	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:42:00 - [91] Originally by: Reiisha stuff (edited for length) Someone needs to take their own advice and get a grip. It's nice to see that you are so concerend about depictions of violence in the media, yet continue to play a game in which a major objective is to blow others up. I think it's also great how in denouncing such depictions in American media, you cite such unique and original American works as Avatar, Pokemon, and Yu-gi-oh. (sarcasm folks, just in case anyone doesn't know, these are Japanese in origin, and by far some of the more tame bits of animation to come from Japan) Don't get me wrong, I definetely agree that there are problems with kids' exposure to violence. But I also think you're going way overboard on this. What goes on in the rest of the media and our opinions of it is not the issue here, we are specifically discussing what occurs within this game. The game has a Teen rating for a reason: yes it has violence, more than young kids should be involved with, but it's not so graphic as to warrant a Mature or Adults Only rating. Adding full nudity to the game would definetely require a reevaluation of that rating. Some of us have no problem with a limited amount of fictional violence (apparently, you are among this group, as you play this game). That doesn't mean that we are in favor of massive and graphic violence, either for our own experience or that of children. I don't see how you can call us hypocrites if we also oppose nudity. Just because there is violence in the media does not make true the idea that those who oppose nudity also support violence, that's just a logical fallacy. So, yell and scream all you want, it doesn't do any good, and it doesn't make you right. Frankly, the only hypocrisy I see here is your own.
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:16:00 - [92] Originally by: Jurgen Cartis Pick your insanity. Perhaps you should have said, "Pick your SIN". NUDITY is not immoral. SEX is not immoral. LUST for either NUDITY or SEX is immoral. A question to those of you who are lobbying for a more "revealing" form of ambulation. What constructive purpose for the enhancement of gameplay is achieved by having more "virtual nudity" added to ambulation?(I would appreciate an intelligent adult response) Cheers
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:52:00 - [93] Originally by: Siresa Talesi Originally by: Reiisha stuff (edited for length) Someone needs to take their own advice and get a grip. It's nice to see that you are so concerend about depictions of violence in the media, yet continue to play a game in which a major objective is to blow others up. I think it's also great how in denouncing such depictions in American media, you cite such unique and original American works as Avatar, Pokemon, and Yu-gi-oh. (sarcasm folks, just in case anyone doesn't know, these are Japanese in origin, and by far some of the more tame bits of animation to come from Japan) Don't get me wrong, I definetely agree that there are problems with kids' exposure to violence. But I also think you're going way overboard on this. What goes on in the rest of the media and our opinions of it is not the issue here, we are specifically discussing what occurs within this game. The game has a Teen rating for a reason: yes it has violence, more than young kids should be involved with, but it's not so graphic as to warrant a Mature or Adults Only rating. Adding full nudity to the game would definetely require a reevaluation of that rating. Some of us have no problem with a limited amount of fictional violence (apparently, you are among this group, as you play this game). That doesn't mean that we are in favor of massive and graphic violence, either for our own experience or that of children. I don't see how you can call us hypocrites if we also oppose nudity. Just because there is violence in the media does not make true the idea that those who oppose nudity also support violence, that's just a logical fallacy. So, yell and scream all you want, it doesn't do any good, and it doesn't make you right. Frankly, the only hypocrisy I see here is your own. I'm not against violence in games and television shows etc. I'm against the hypocricy of calling sex bad and violence good. EVE History Wiki
Cybarite Gallente Aristotle Enterprises Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:57:00 - [94] Originally by: Siresa Talesi Originally by: Reiisha stuff (edited for length) Someone needs to take their own advice and get a grip. It's nice to see that you are so concerend about depictions of violence in the media, yet continue to play a game in which a major objective is to blow others up. I think it's also great how in denouncing such depictions in American media, you cite such unique and original American works as Avatar, Pokemon, and Yu-gi-oh. (sarcasm folks, just in case anyone doesn't know, these are Japanese in origin, and by far some of the more tame bits of animation to come from Japan) Don't get me wrong, I definetely agree that there are problems with kids' exposure to violence. But I also think you're going way overboard on this. What goes on in the rest of the media and our opinions of it is not the issue here, we are specifically discussing what occurs within this game. The game has a Teen rating for a reason: yes it has violence, more than young kids should be involved with, but it's not so graphic as to warrant a Mature or Adults Only rating. Adding full nudity to the game would definetely require a reevaluation of that rating. Some of us have no problem with a limited amount of fictional violence (apparently, you are among this group, as you play this game). That doesn't mean that we are in favor of massive and graphic violence, either for our own experience or that of children. I don't see how you can call us hypocrites if we also oppose nudity. Just because there is violence in the media does not make true the idea that those who oppose nudity also support violence, that's just a logical fallacy. So, yell and scream all you want, it doesn't do any good, and it doesn't make you right. Frankly, the only hypocrisy I see here is your own. actually only avatar is an american production, you can find fansubs of the others on youtube. god why anyone would want to waste their time translating that stupid BS is beyond me. (note: not all anime is BS, just most of the stuff to hit US television in the last couple of years) ... Why do I PvP? Because I love the feeling I get when I see the pretty lights and know that someone somewhere is screaming incoherently at their computer screen.
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:48:00 - [95] Originally by: Syri Taneka **ography stops being ography when it's universally accepted to view it. Ummm....? /scratches head in an attempt to discover the truth and logic in this statement The properties of ography don't change. ography is ography irregardless of it's acceptance or denial. If the population of the world universally viewed gravity with denial,rest assured that the properties of gravity would not change or cease to function. **ography ceases to be IMMORAL,when the truth concerning it,is individually rejected by the free will of said individual. Cheers "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

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