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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.03.06 12:29:00 -
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mhhhh, sounds bad, every miner/NPC hunter logs when he sees pirates in 0.0. so its hard to find some action until somebody comes up with 20BS
Wanna fly with me?
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DedGuy
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Posted - 2004.03.06 13:33:00 -
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Hmmmm, so the pirates are complaining that they can't take out defenceless people anymore?
Fun.
Try 'real' pirating, with risk involved ffs, challenges are better than anything no-risk.
Rumors of my clones death are greatly exaggerated. But I am still INACTIVE
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2004.03.06 13:45:00 -
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You can thank Zombies for this one
Not carebears
Not CCP
"GRie....er pirates"
Whine to them
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.06 13:46:00 -
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I don't pansily gate camp defenseless players, so I don't care about the change.
Also I don't think when someone logs out that it transports them to safety right away. It takes a little bit of time just as before when it'd take a little time to cloak. But instead of just cloaking, it seems that when you loggin you're in a safe zone and it auto warps you to where you were. So the "safe zone" instead of disappearing doesn't seem to be any difference to me with the logging out trick of trying to get away.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.06 14:14:00 -
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Anyways, guess what's up on the news? You all got your wish. A little late, but I guess you helped your fellow camping pirates eh?
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.03.06 14:19:00 -
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While gate camping isnt a good way to pirate alot of non pirates dont seem to realise that belt hunting in empire just doesnt work.
The local channel is more or less an early warning system for non pirate who will run to the nearest, station, planet/moon, or safe spot as soon as danger rears its head.
Give us some way to actually belt hunt effectivly in empire and you'll see alot less gate camping overall. The negative effect of doing that is thr unrecoverable sec hits that will keep empire rats out of the core systems.
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NeoChrome
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Posted - 2004.03.06 14:58:00 -
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I find it so utterly sad that the CCP once again bowed to the CAREBEAR community by implementing this completly ignorant change. This is beggining to resemble a teletubbie convention i'm afraid.....what is even more ignorant is that this will surely make the game become even more boring....
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PussyCat
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Posted - 2004.03.06 15:03:00 -
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OMG OMG tell me that u r kidding, Serious 150 km, How can u gank noobs in 0.4 space now. GOD I am quiting eve any1 want my stuff. 
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Morfhman
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Posted - 2004.03.06 15:05:00 -
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WOOOHOOO Pirets comlpaning  HAHAHAHAH Poor bastards 
I thinks its time we non-pirets got somting to better our lives this game CCP has been favoring pirets to long 
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.06 15:06:00 -
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You can thank Zombies for this one
Not carebears
Not CCP
"GRie....er pirates"
Whine to them
Oh? Yeah I can see how Zombine Inc tanking the sentry guns from under 10km away from the stargate in Yulai and using smartbombs (with a range of 5km) to destroy people was the motivating factor behind the sentry gun range increase.
/me puts down the Clue Bat, leaving the blindly fanatical Kaaii laying dazed and confused in revelation
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.06 15:09:00 -
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OMG OMG tell me that u r kidding, Serious 150 km, How can u gank noobs in 0.4 space now. GOD I am quiting eve any1 want my stuff.
Me me me.  
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.03.06 15:11:00 -
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this change was much needed, ganking people at 65km is boring and this forces pirates to come up with something new and exciting ways of making money.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2004.03.06 16:13:00 -
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as ppl have said alot of wellknown pirates cant hunt in the belts because ppl will see them in local and run so gate camping for a while brings a fleet to sort u out this is were the fun is, a bit of cat and mouse weve had some great battle with some good corps in the area of space we have picked to hunt. if ccp made a mod that made us not appear in local we would be very happy to hunt in belts and find ppl with the scanner. the problem with the sec hit that ppl get now is they have a batte with someone that there not at war with one night they get a massive sec hit so what do they do a do countless boring missions in the little space they can use or kill countless ncp for 10 months or become a full time pker or pirate.
then while there traped in no mans land ccp takes away there way of killing and hunting i know some dull assed carebears are going to like this but sort it out ccp
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2004.03.06 16:33:00 -
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side note: how much dmg do they do now?
second of all: you can still hunt belts/npc spawns/and also i believe you can reach rediculous optimal ranges with tracking computers... like over 200km :>
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.06 16:58:00 -
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WOOOHOOO Pirets comlpaning HAHAHAHAH Poor bastards
I thinks its time we non-pirets got somting to better our lives this game CCP has been favoring pirets to long
There has never been a patch that has favoured pirates. So I challenge you to pick one and back up your useless piece of drivel.
Pirates have been hampered:
Sentry guns added to 0.4 and below.
Jump in points got done away with.
Anchorable warp inhibitors.
Sentry Guns increased.
None of the above affects me, or has ever affected me beacause before castor I always camped gates and not jips and since castor I have found a new home in deep space. The one thing that has affected some of my friends, alot of bounty hunters and myslef is the security status situation. Why the **** do we no longer have the decline any more?
So Morfhman, who do you think has gained over the life of EvE?
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Cpt Azrael
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Posted - 2004.03.06 17:01:00 -
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Superb!! score one for the proper players of eve, enjoy your endless warping to belts looking for that nonexistant miner 
I for one welcome the sentrys as i was one of those who fell to zombie in yulai, they didnt care about fair play, picking on new players cos they think its funny. I can assure you that a number of new players to the game (as in a few hours/Days) wont be back because of that (all to similar to counterstrikes griefing idiots) Own goal pirate scum, own goal
Enjoy the &rse end of space outcasts, the proper players will be enjoying the comfort of commerce and trade with the ever watchful eye of concord as our wingmen |
Br0ke
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Posted - 2004.03.06 17:02:00 -
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If one truly desires to fight pilots >150k from gates, it is still their prerogative. Albeit with a bit more teamwork and different ships/equipment.
But this is no skill at arms, and has always been frowned upon by enlightened pilots. Only the weak of mind engage in such skilless conflict.
Has already mentioned, true, personal combat is very much alive throughout the empire. Just last night we were able to unburden a great number of pilots from their cumbersome material possessions.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.06 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 06/03/2004 17:06:39
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But this is no skill at arms, and has always been frowned upon by enlightened pilots. Only the weak of mind engage in such skilless conflict.
Are you not reffering to mining scordite, no skill, no risk and any fool can do it.
Gate camping is risky, takes a bit of skill (not much), only people with some balls can do it
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Roger Welco
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Posted - 2004.03.06 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Roger Welco on 06/03/2004 17:52:54
maybe what is needed here is some logical thought.... 150km, is needed to protect the pilots in safe empire space.. so let that setting be for safe empire space..
.4 and below set the range back.. after all i always viewed the sentry guns around a low sec, as protecting the gate, not so much there customers. This will make the pirates happy, but will also mean they cant do it in policed space, with as much ease.....
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Sally B
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Posted - 2004.03.06 17:54:00 -
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Little by little, CCCP nerfs PvP. Eventually they'll nerf it so much so it will be one of many dead muds that nerfed it too much. Everquest in space, how horrible.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.03.06 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 06/03/2004 18:01:01
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losers? lol. stick to what you do best carebear. stop posting.
Silly carebear, don't you know that the forums are only for pirates and THEIR opinions? Quit clogging up the forums with opinions that a MMORPG should be about teamwork and strategy instead of "point and click style fighting" like a FPS.
Really, it's sad to see that none of the real pirates post to things like this to shut down their whining cohorts.
The gate-camping community won't be happy until there is a guaranteed kill in 1.0 space every time they decide they want to ruin someone's day.
You guys need to understand something. The people you gank while gate camping have spent a LOT of time and energy gathering whatever you just took from them in 30 seconds. It's much easier for you to adapt to a new situation (such as increased sentry ranges) than it is for those people to rebuild whatever they lost.
Now let's say you actually went hunting and found people in belts to gank... Well, they have a fighting chance first of all, secondly they are doing something profitable in an area where they know the risks and thirdly you guys are almost guaranteed that the kill will be worth it. The chances of someone with no money and no ships actually spending time working in low security space are much smaller than that same player passing through low security space using the gates.
I really think you guys are just griefers. The reason I say this is that I talk to pirates on a routine basis who would LOVE to actually PvP someone in 0.0 space. But you guys don't GO THERE TO FIGHT THEM. Instead you sit at gates and shoot the helpless. Any progress CCP can make towards separating the real pirates from you wanna-bes is well placed. Real pirates still make money, real pirates still have territories and real pirates are STILL A THREAT TO ALLIANCES. Gate camp 0.0 territory if you are hell-bent on gate camping. You guys who are complaining are simply low-skilled and uncreative if you can't find ways OTHER THAN GATE CAMPING EMPIRE SPACE to kill people in industrials or strong ships with mining setups.
Finally... gate camping is NOT PvP. I don't see ANY changes CCP has made to actual PvP that will keep you from fighting another willing and prepared individual. You guys hide behind the banner that you want better PvP when in reality you want less risk for yourself when in general you are ALREADY SHOOTING HELPLESS PLAYERS.
Edit: typo :\
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Sally B
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Posted - 2004.03.06 18:03:00 -
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PC Pirates
1) Pirates can't say their opinions
2) Pirates can't write petitions
3) Pirates can't grid exploit
Carebears
1) Carebears can rant and troll their whining unlimited
2) Carebears can write twentysix thousand friviolus petitions and CCP caves in
3) Carebears can mine arkonor in industrials
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2004.03.06 18:07:00 -
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OMG OMG tell me that u r kidding, Serious 150 km, How can u gank noobs in 0.4 space now. GOD I am quiting eve any1 want my stuff.
OMGOMG, people can no longer ruin some rookie's EVE experience. What is it with all pirates (almost all, anyway) whining about how they no longer can whack people without any risk whatsoever.
That, unfortunately, merely goes to prove that most pirates are lazy, cowardly, and don't really care whether their actions mean anything to other players at all.
Seriously, you guys whining about it are sad...
"Oh no, I can no longer, in a risk-free way kill off random players by playing on the fact that if they return fire, they'll get killed by the sentry guns, I'm gonna quit this stupid game now!"
...*Sighs*
Then quit, or shut up. Or both. Really.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2004.03.06 18:12:00 -
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Little by little, CCCP nerfs PvP. Eventually they'll nerf it so much so it will be one of many dead muds that nerfed it too much. Everquest in space, how horrible.
Isn't PvP about fighting?
What you're complaining about is your loss of risk-free ganking ships that are weaker than you, not your ability to *fight* people. But then again, do you ever choose a battle over a one-sided slaughter?
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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Dekar
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Posted - 2004.03.06 18:47:00 -
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As far as pvp goes, this change separates the mice from the men. Looks like we got a lot of mice :)
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.06 18:59:00 -
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OMG OMG tell me that u r kidding, Serious 150 km, How can u gank noobs in 0.4 space now. GOD I am quiting eve any1 want my stuff.
OMGOMG, people can no longer ruin some rookie's EVE experience. What is it with all pirates (almost all, anyway) whining about how they no longer can whack people without any risk whatsoever.
That, unfortunately, merely goes to prove that most pirates are lazy, cowardly, and don't really care whether their actions mean anything to other players at all.
Seriously, you guys whining about it are sad...
"Oh no, I can no longer, in a risk-free way kill off random players by playing on the fact that if they return fire, they'll get killed by the sentry guns, I'm gonna quit this stupid game now!"
...*Sighs*
Then quit, or shut up. Or both. Really.
What's a 'rookie' doing in low sec space? And is it really an issue of stupid game mechanics that send them there? Lvl 1 agents sending peole into low sec space is an issue of game mechanics.
The 'rookie' choosing to go there is not an issue of game mechanics.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.03.06 19:10:00 -
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You'll get no disagreement from me on that particular point Jash. But it doesn't make the people who would choose to gate camp gates where they KNOW the majority of people are newbies any less lame.
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.03.06 19:33:00 -
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I haven't read teh whole topic so I may be repeating someone, but how about gate guns have 150km range if gate camping is so evil and stations have 65 again? I don't want to mine ever again and convoys were gonna be my main source of income now I have no chance of doing this, why not just remove from the game CCP? All they do now is cause my framerate to drop.
And way to go fro telling us about this change! Could've used that info on the front page yesterday right before my unisnurd caracal exploded in my face, I've petionted it and I suggest anyone else who has been royally ****** over by the game in this way to do so too.
/me sells all ships and weapons and gets a thorax and some mining lasers. woot.
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Death Ranger
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Posted - 2004.03.06 19:35:00 -
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{OMG OMG tell me that u r kidding, Serious 150 km, How can u gank noobs in 0.4 space now. GOD I am quiting eve any1 want my stuff.} ill take it convo me in-game your stuff will be put to better use then any carebear could use it. Also The CCp needs to think over their protection of carebears. First some people get banned because ccp is too lazy to fix concord and police and now 150km sentry guns. What next cops in 0.0 space. Hearing what i just said ccp will probably find my idea genius and implement it so if anyone in ccp reads this cops in 0.0 space is NOT a good idea.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.03.06 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Zarks on 06/03/2004 20:42:02
Why? because gate ganking will die from it, and thats a good thing.
In other words, declare war or go look for your prey.
Pirate life should be hard in empire space anyway.
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