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Jamze
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Posted - 2004.03.06 01:15:00 -
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I attempted to do a spot of gate camping tonight. And to my shock and horror i was engaged by sentry guns. I was at least 65k from the nearest gun. I hope this is only a bug. In case it is I have filed a bug report. If it is by design then I will have to say adios gring to ccp.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.03.06 01:20:00 -
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"I hope this is only a bug. In case it is I have filed a bug report. If it is by design then I will have to say adios gring to ccp."
... like already mentioned in every other forum section, the sentries range has been without warning increased to 150 km, by design.
so bye, i guess. o.o;
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Jamze
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Posted - 2004.03.06 01:26:00 -
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"I hope this is only a bug. In case it is I have filed a bug report. If it is by design then I will have to say adios gring to ccp."
... like already mentioned in every other forum section, the sentries range has been without warning increased to 150 km, by design.
so bye, i guess. o.o;
Where is this mentioned in forums?
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.06 01:29:00 -
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Kind of silly ...... CCP
Mongo speaks !!
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.03.06 01:31:00 -
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worse part is no more NPC convoy raids unless your willing to risk a tanked up battleship
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.03.06 01:33:00 -
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"Where is this mentioned in forums?"
There's threads about it in the General, Ships'n'Modules and Patch Review sections at least... that's the ones i can remember anyway, just browse for anything locked with 'sentries' in the subject. ^^;
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myggan
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Posted - 2004.03.06 02:27:00 -
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its sad to say that this game is turning into a mining simulation
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Nashal Couronne
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Posted - 2004.03.06 02:45:00 -
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Oh please. "This game is turning into a mining simulator" has been the melodramatic cry from every player who just wants easy kills right from the start of the game.
Question: Is there still lots of PvP in EVE?
Answer: YES
Question: Will there still be lots of PvP in EVE after the sentry changes?
Answer: YES
At least attempt to adapt and develop new stratagies before you begin your incessant whinging. ((I will conceed the point that this was poorly thought out in respects to informing the playerbase and also in regards too convoy hunters, but this will in no way kill off PvP))
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.03.06 02:46:00 -
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/me waits for a "cancelled" thread by players quiting.
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Natty Gan
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Posted - 2004.03.06 02:59:00 -
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Looks like you will have to use some skill now and hunt players within your own skill range. Instead of killing unwary noobs.
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Cineas
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Posted - 2004.03.06 03:04:00 -
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Gate camping aside, I just got blasted by a station gun at 90km. Why were we not told! An incredibly bad move not informing the player base!
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Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.03.06 03:47:00 -
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Gineas; I agree with that. It would've been good for CCP to post the sentry gun range increase to the news so that it'd be visible on log-in.
Still, as for the change -- pirates have been claiming that the fact that sentry ranges are 60km -means- that CCP wanted to allow gate-ganking; CCP has demonstrated that they don't approve of the tactic by changing the system to make it dangerous. This, however, does not eliminate PvP in .4-.0 Empire -- there are still no sentry guns in belts, after all, or at Points of Interest. So? Hunt the miners! They're the ones who very explicitly acknowledge the danger by trying to profit from the system's rating.
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.03.06 03:48:00 -
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Edited by: killswitch on 06/03/2004 03:50:47
you miners/traders should understand that gate camping isn't about ganking
"noobs" as you politely call them, its about catching one of the many miners/traders that transport bps and other goodies in low level frigs to avoid a good lock time. So stop getting behind the new players and using them as scapegoats to lash out at the pirates.
(note, this was to Natty Gan and others before this last post snuck in)
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myggan
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Posted - 2004.03.06 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: myggan on 06/03/2004 03:59:04
Oh please. "This game is turning into a mining simulator" has been the melodramatic cry from every player who just wants easy kills right from the start of the game.
Question: Is there still lots of PvP in EVE?
Answer: YES
Question: Will there still be lots of PvP in EVE after the sentry changes?
Answer: YES
At least attempt to adapt and develop new stratagies before you begin your incessant whinging. ((I will conceed the point that this was poorly thought out in respects to informing the playerbase and also in regards too convoy hunters, but this will in no way kill off PvP))
oh please mate i personaly dotn do pirating i am one of thosse as they call it carebears but if there wouldnt be any pirats in eve the market would chrash everysystem would be mined out within a mounth and even more bithing on eve for realising new things so lets face the truth pirats are needed in this game
or ami just deadly wrong about this
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Natty Gan
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Posted - 2004.03.06 04:05:00 -
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Killswitch you handsome devil you.
IÆm not against gate camping but the sad fact is a ton of noobs lost their first ships to this tactic. You really canÆt argue with this.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.06 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 06/03/2004 04:07:25
I dont gate camp in empire anymore, but i still think this is a really ****ty move made by ccp, when Im bored I like to knock off npc convoys in torrinos, oh well
This is nearly as a bad as the security gain, I aint killed any1 in empire for 3months now and I am at -4.2, will concord ever forget?
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.03.06 04:30:00 -
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thats true, and your dead wrong,
im not handsome at all
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.03.06 04:39:00 -
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Quote:
I attempted to do a spot of gate camping tonight. And to my shock and horror i was engaged by sentry guns. I was at least 65k from the nearest gun. I hope this is only a bug. In case it is I have filed a bug report. If it is by design then I will have to say adios gring to ccp.
Be a good little camper and go complain about something on the forums!
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.03.06 05:47:00 -
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"(Race name here) Sentry Gun" Range about 48K
"(Race name here) Sentry Gun I" Range about 60K ...
etc...
I know this as the buggers were shooting me all last night.
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Darodem
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Posted - 2004.03.06 06:43:00 -
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Did someone turn out the lights and start a pirate whining topic?
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.03.06 08:19:00 -
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Did someone turn out the lights and start a pirate whining topic?
stfu. how about sentrys in belts , protecting the roids?
happy mining, then.
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M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2004.03.06 08:40:00 -
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I'm not a pirate, but i have to agree with them that the range increase is a bit draconian. A warning would have been fair.
Maybe it should only have been applied to sentry guns in .5 and above perhaps, dunno, as I have said in many other threads about many other subjects, its hard to find a good balance, maybe they will change it again soonÖ
It may even be a tactic on CCP's part to make peeps use the deployable warp disrupters, (are they out yet)?
I for one would miss pirates at gates as it adds a bit of spice to the game.
Noo sig comming SOONÖ
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2004.03.06 08:53:00 -
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its not just about gate camping if i kill a ship and he runs to the station in his pod i can no longer chase him to finish the job. if we think of ways around this we get banned !! and now i here if u log off u auto warp to a safe spot so when u see a pirate or pk'ers in local u just log off. i also understand there just about to nerf the ew and warp jamming so if u find someone in a belt they still have a 95 percent chance of getting away.
looks like ccp are a bunch of tree hugging hippies who love dull miners paying for the drinks at the pink flamingo.
our corp and our allies are looking for a new game that allows pvp and does what it says on the description and suggestions!!!!
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Bobbeh
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Posted - 2004.03.06 09:14:00 -
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Lots of pvp oppurtunities? not really, actually there isnt.
i camp in one of the busiest 0.0 systems and tbh you hardly ever see an indy/ battleship go past. In a 0.1 system however, you do. This is people in all kinds of ships carrying decent stuff. If miners or npc'ers see us in system they just run, now they have another safe haven, by stargates. so actually combat in belts is very very hard to find. imo they might aswell put police in 0.1-0.4 because there is very little you can do as far as pirating/pvp goes nowadays.
Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking. |
Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.06 10:15:00 -
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I just say stop nurfing us pirates
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Thrawn Armidious
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:08:00 -
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I just say stop nurfing us pirates
Oh man, you guys are crazy. It is so frustrating to read the forums.
I recently lost a very nicely fitted Black Bird to gate camping. Some guy was in a BS 70km out and blew me up before I made it to the gate. Had I returned fire the sentry guns would have destroyed me. There was nothing I could do. It was the second ship I had lost in 4 hours and I was out of money. Had to burrow a bunch to get back on my feet.
I didn't complain though, the way I figured it, it was my fault for not paying enough attention and not having a MWD equipped.
But for the camper, it was a no risk situation. Worst case senario would have been the victum getting away.
So what does this mean for eve? Absolutly nothing. You guys are freaking out because now you don't have a no risk way to kill players. Now it is harder to kill players in empire space. So what?
Is that indy's latest omber hual really that important to you? Go out to 0.0 space where real pvp happens.
On a side note, Convoys should have NPC escorts, not 150km sentry guns protecting them.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:12:00 -
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Hmmm does this mean convoy hunting is no longer possible?
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FINDER
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:42:00 -
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To all you pirates , WHAAAA to bad. LOOSERS have a nice day
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Bobbeh
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:44:00 -
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losers? lol. stick to what you do best carebear. stop posting.
Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking. |
Arius Jordani
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:56:00 -
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Well I happened across the info by accident in EVE Guardian. I agree the way it was communicated, and its impact on convoy raiding are both wrong, and seem poorly thought through. Maybe its a precursor to removing some or all of the guns from 0.1/0.2, or a reduction in their power, or making them destroyable in low sec ... Otherwise, tough luck on the pirates, it wasn't your turn this time 
Pirates (ship self-destruct delay) 1 - 1 Carebears (150km sentries)
I'd call that a draw for this week, for which you can thank-the-TANK
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