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Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:17:00 - [1] ... a bit overpowered and imbalanced? I am asking fellow pilots of this honest and noble community because I feel command ships are overpowered and imbalanced. I have heard and seen most pilots who are successful in their combat engagements usually have better kill : death ratio when they are flying command ships. If they fly non-command ships then their death : kill ratio would be higher. What do you community think, are my observations accurate and precise? Please tell me your success stories with command ships. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:22:00 - [2] nope Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:22:00 - [3] troll
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:23:00 - [4] I fly a Sleipnir... I've gotten my ass handed to me plenty of times Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:24:00 - [5] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2007 10:29:16 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire ... a bit overpowered and imbalanced? I am asking fellow pilots of this honest and noble community because I feel command ships are overpowered and imbalanced. I have heard and seen most pilots who are successful in their combat engagements usually have better kill : death ratio when they are flying command ships. If they fly non-command ships then their death : kill ratio would be higher. What do you community think, are my observations accurate and precise? Please tell me your success stories with command ships. CCP feels the Eos is overpowered and must be brought back in line with the other command ships.. So by your opinion it will still be a wtfpwnmobile and needs further nerfing? stands back as the angry bloodthirsty mob of Eos pilots bumrush the thread Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:27:00 - [6] The Eos was fine, a solid opponent in which a fight I had lasted over 5 minutes... I won so no, the Eos is not overpowered... just because you fail at Eve life doesnt mean the game should be tailored to make you feel better Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Incantare Caldari Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Incantare on 25/11/2007 10:28:32 They can get out of some situations a battleship would die in, on the other hand they still have BC level cap and can't take as much neuting. Field command ships have great tanks but low dps. Where's the imbalance?
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:29:00 - [8] In the minds of the weak Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny The Eos was fine, a solid opponent in which a fight I had lasted over 5 minutes... I won so no, the Eos is not overpowered... just because you fail at Eve life doesnt mean the game should be tailored to make you feel better This thread is horrible flamebait, but I can't help but feel obligated to mention that the outcome of a single fight is not an indicator of balance.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:31:00 - [10] No Jesus. I am not saying it should be nerfed further. I am asking up to this patch, do people feel or notice their kill : death ratio is so much better when they fly command ships. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.

Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:33:00 - [11] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire No Jesus. I am not saying it should be nerfed further. I am asking up to this patch, do people feel or notice their kill : death ratio is so much better when they fly command ships. It's even better when they fly carriers and motherships. What's the point of this thread actually? Press alt+F4 to reduce lag
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire No Jesus. I am not saying it should be nerfed further. I am asking up to this patch, do people feel or notice their kill : death ratio is so much better when they fly command ships. Not much better than when I use a BS. Considering that that cost quite a lot more isks to replace, and are more skill-intensive, they're fine as they are (well, except the Eos that was overpowered, but it's brought back on line with the other Fleet CS). ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:34:00 - [13] Moghydin, read the last paragraph of original thread please. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Samuraki Ratuno	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:34:00 - [14] Yes it is better. ComShips are harder to kill, that`s the reason. In small engagments rarely Coms are called primary.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:35:00 - [15] That's all I fly unless I out in a jumpclone yarring about somewhere solo for fun It's a BS in a BC size ship that locks faster than a real BS Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:35:00 - [16] Hi Jenny, Heres some attention. Have a good day.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:38:00 - [17] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2007 10:38:50 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire No Jesus. I am not saying it should be nerfed further. I am asking up to this patch, do people feel or notice their kill : death ratio is so much better when they fly command ships. Sure.. Back before the nos nerf I regularly ran a bait drake and 2 gank fitted eos and had spectacular luck with the combo.. Awesome dps and great resists if the target(s) has big teeth = a higher kill-death ratio than if I was using gank brutixs.. So all is in order as far as thats concerned.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:40:00 - [18] If anything needs further nerfing it's that damn god-tank on the drake Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Scott Ryder Infestation. The Cosa Nostra	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:41:00 - [19] I like this. I really really do. When you need aprox a year to fly a commandship successfully, (all basic training, decent gunnery skills, good tank skills, and the commandship skill, And it is effective it is overpowered? WHAT is with this "I want every ship to be equally good" mentality that has been striking eve the last 18 months? At least get your facts before you nerf signatures, You just removed the picture of a dead Santa, and not the text where he was told to just pay the ransom, and THEN it was eve related
Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:42:00 - [20] They have better tank, harder to kill. That doesn't make them unbalanced. When you fly bigger ships with better tank, your k/d ratio is going up. They also cost quite a lot. I still fail to see the point here. Why use command ships. That can be said about any ship group, the bigger your ship, the better your K/D ratio (if you know what you are doing). When T2 battleships will come out, they will be even harder to kill and their pilots will have even better K/D ratio. And I was referring to your 2-nd paragraph: "I am asking fellow pilots of this honest and noble community because I feel command ships are overpowered and imbalanced." Jenny Spitfire But you failed to provide any evidence except that they are harder to kill than smaller/less tanked and much cheaper groups of ships. Press alt+F4 to reduce lag

Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:43:00 - [21] Scott, it is called balanced. A balanced game is a good game in my honest opinion. :) --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:43:00 - [22] Don't worry... soon ambulation will hit and all the little whiners that want Eve to = WoW will be doing that and leave the fighting aspect to us REAL players Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:44:00 - [23] Moghydin, there is a reason I am asking the community. If I know the answer, I wouldn't ask the community. :s --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Scott Ryder Infestation. The Cosa Nostra	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:45:00 - [24] Yes it is balanced as it is. Drake on the other hand as previously mentioned however is not balanced in line with the other battlecruisers At least get your facts before you nerf signatures, You just removed the picture of a dead Santa, and not the text where he was told to just pay the ransom, and THEN it was eve related
Rilder Caldari THC LTD	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:45:00 - [25] Edited by: Rilder on 25/11/2007 10:45:07 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny If anything needs further nerfing it's that damn god-tank on the drake Yeah it can tank, to bad it does aproximately the dps of a Drunk fish. Also boost Command ships <3
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Scott Ryder Yes it is balanced as it is. Drake on the other hand as previously mentioned however is not balanced in line with the other battlecruisers Then make the Drake into an armor tanking and missile spewing battlecruiser with a drone bay size matching other battlecruisers please. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Moghydin, there is a reason I am asking the community. If I know the answer, I wouldn't ask the community. :s So you want an answer? No, they are not overpowered. They are good as they are now, may be some ships should be tweaked here and there, but they are not overpowered as a class. Are HACs overpowered? Are dictors overpowered? You don't tell us why are you asking that question. Better K/D ratio? C'mmon is that even an argument? Those ships require a long skill training in order to just fly them and much longer to fly them reasonably good. Why they should be weak and easily killed? Press alt+F4 to reduce lag
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:51:00 - [28] New Jenny takes more crap than I do... and doesn't get into bitter arguements. I'm starting to like New Jenny, granted carebear as hell, but still Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:53:00 - [29] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 25/11/2007 10:53:25 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Scott Ryder Yes it is balanced as it is. Drake on the other hand as previously mentioned however is not balanced in line with the other battlecruisers Then make the Drake into an armor tanking and missile spewing battlecruiser with a drone bay size matching other battlecruisers please. Both of you stfu about the drake.. Tank:[=======================@=====] DPS:.[=====@=======================] Bal:..[==============@==============] Yup balance is right in the middle so lets forget about the drake.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Scott Ryder Infestation. The Cosa Nostra	Posted - 2007.11.25 10:59:00 - [30] Edited by: Scott Ryder on 25/11/2007 11:01:56 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Scott Ryder Yes it is balanced as it is. Drake on the other hand as previously mentioned however is not balanced in line with the other battlecruisers Then make the Drake into an armor tanking and missile spewing battlecruiser with a drone bay size matching other battlecruisers please. Hmmm you are somewhat full of crap. What i said was it should be nerfed further considering the godlike tank you can fit on it. And missiles aint got that bad dps. I feel that you are somewhat subjective when you make posts about nerfs and buffs here. Just a tad subjective. Edit: and by the full of crap thing, i dont mean you as a person, just youre views and crawing for attention. But you as a person im sure is a pretty nice guy or girl. At least get your facts before you nerf signatures, You just removed the picture of a dead Santa, and not the text where he was told to just pay the ransom, and THEN it was eve related



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