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Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:32:00 - [1] Amarr ships should not be brown. You know what I am talking about. Nearly everything else is about them is great. They look "armored" with the plating over the black sections. They have great details. The Absolution and the Paladin could use a little less red, but its not a big deal, and the Crusader might use a bit more. The Redeemer, and Zealot are hot, hot, hot hot, hot. Really hot. The 8th turret hardpoint on the Armageddon model is making me speculate all over my pants. But Amarr ships should not be brown. Gold is not brown. Amarr ships are gold. Please CCP, tweak the colors of the Amarr ships so they are gold and not brown. Then they will be perfect.
Acinonyx Jubatus Minmatar International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:36:00 - [2] They look mainly yellow to me... Geddon looks a lil...funky, think it's due to the front and the fact it's now yellow and not actual golden. <3 the lil swirly symbols on the crucifier hulls and that vengence(didn't see if they were on anything else yet)
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:42:00 - [3] Hold on, I can read Minmitar Slave.... "This... is the.... weak... spot.... SHOOT HERE!" Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "Villains always have antidotes... They're funny that way." ~The Tick
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:49:00 - [4] It might just be a lighting issue and/or DX8 wackiness? --- Join BH-DL Skills
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:51:00 - [5] Originally by: cal nereus It might just be a lighting issue and/or DX8 wackiness? Nope, DX8 wackiness wont make the ships brown instead of gold, they will make them less shiney and less shaderey, but it wont make them brown instead of gold. Yes, that is the word i wanted to use
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:01:00 - [6] issue of lighting in-station/system? Tried another system? - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:02:00 - [7] To be honest, from what I've seen, they look like a dirty rusty bronze color, which is not brown, but then again not quite gold. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:07:00 - [8] Edited by: Goumindong on 28/11/2007 04:06:46 Tan is a type of brown, i havent seen them looking "rusty bronze" unless you are talking about the current colors on sisi, which might be that, but is in fact gold.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:14:00 - [9] E.G. Old Geddon, Proper Color, or close enough to it New Geddon, Brown, Not Gold
Acinonyx Jubatus Minmatar International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:38:00 - [10] you do notice that the geddon's ina dark system, and you can see the reflection of the blue and such from the system, right? I think the problem now is the ships take traits from their surroundings, the systems and such, more so than they used to, so that plays a major part in what the ship will look like. In other words, like they said, the ships are more reflective in places to show the materials in which they're made from. Also when you think about gold, is there honestly that much gold in the galaxy to slap it on a ships surface? There's like 2-3 panals atleast on most amarr ships that are actually gold. You have to take scale into thought aswell, how much gold would say a whole rev take?

Maraude Fury Minmatar Shadow Of The Light	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:46:00 - [11] Thing is, they look like that in station, which SHOULD have neutral colors, as they are form artificial lights in the docking bay. They STILL look like a tan color, and not a gold color. Maraude Fury CEO: Shadow Of The Light .SOL. ]
Acinonyx Jubatus Minmatar International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Maraude Fury Thing is, they look like that in station, which SHOULD have neutral colors, as they are form artificial lights in the docking bay. They STILL look like a tan color, and not a gold color. Actually, there's an apocalypse screen somewhere, too many of them floating around now ): but it's in a green station and you can detect a hint of green reflecting off the gold on the top. which makes me wonder WHY IS THE ZEALOT GREEN D:
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:50:00 - [13] Edited by: Goumindong on 28/11/2007 04:50:50 Originally by: Acinonyx Jubatus Originally by: Maraude Fury Thing is, they look like that in station, which SHOULD have neutral colors, as they are form artificial lights in the docking bay. They STILL look like a tan color, and not a gold color. Actually, there's an apocalypse screen somewhere, too many of them floating around now ): but it's in a green station and you can detect a hint of green reflecting off the gold on the top. which makes me wonder WHY IS THE ZEALOT GREEN D: Zealots t2 color is green. This is fine and good. Here is a picture of the Omen. Notice the trim. There are two colors, a silver trim, and a gold trim. Omen The Amarr ships should be the gold trim colour, and if they need trim, it should be that cool silver, or the light tan. Then the "undercarrage" would be black to represent the "unarmored" sections.
Yerik Locke Caldari The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2007.11.28 05:56:00 - [14] I like the new colors more. Gold is too gawdy and ugly and hard to look at. One example is the new retribution... it's just too much, it looks too fake. It's over the top. It still looks GOOD, I just like it less than say, the colors on the bestower.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:09:00 - [15] Edited by: Goumindong on 28/11/2007 06:09:30 Its not about them looking good, they will look good with either color, and look good now, its about brown not being "amarr"
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:11:00 - [16] So we lost even our "moar golden hulls" rule? :( I want gold + red stripes abso not dark red one :(
Princess 02	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:17:00 - [17] Edited by: Princess 02 on 28/11/2007 06:22:44 ... NOR should they resemble flying used tampons: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=645669 Check it out.. proof included
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:24:00 - [18] That is just your overactive imagination. The "lots of red" isnt a huge issue, its a t2 color scheme. A little less would be preferable, but eh, not worth worrying over.
Lisento Slaven Amarr Capitalism Amuck	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:34:00 - [19] The ultimate Amarr Nerf...turn gold to lead. --- Put in space whales!
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:38:00 - [20] Originally by: Goumindong That is just your overactive imagination. The "lots of red" isnt a huge issue, its a t2 color scheme. A little less would be preferable, but eh, not worth worrying over. Oh yes its VERY worrying to someone who flies mostly absolution from amarr t2 ships. I actally liked "fat tribal warpaint pigeon". Now its "fat -i had a period- pigeon".

Princess 02	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:38:00 - [21] Edited by: Princess 02 on 28/11/2007 06:38:20 Originally by: Goumindong That is just your overactive imagination. The "lots of red" isnt a huge issue, its a t2 color scheme. A little less would be preferable, but eh, not worth worrying over. True.. I would not want blood red and brown either.. however I love my Carthum ships... sigh not anymore... YES to REAL and more gold plates on my favourite ships
Simian Specter Tsurokigaarai APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:46:00 - [22] Maybe you are seeing something I'm not. I haven't seen this 8th turret hardpoint on the Geddon you speak of. Then again, I haven't seen any pics of it from top or bottom, so I've prolly just missed it. If it's getting an 8th turret.... twitch glee! But I have to agree with the colors a bit. They look a bit more like a dusty yellow than the gold that is evidently possible in that pic of the Omen. ______________ Eloquence belongs to the conqueror.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 07:39:00 - [23] Count the number of hardpoints on the model. 5 on the side, 3 on the top ridge. Its not getting an 8th turret.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.28 08:16:00 - [24] Oh, you're right. The Amarr ships do appear to have a basic brown trim. Odd. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Perry Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.11.28 08:23:00 - [25] The Armageddon does NOT have 8 turret mounts. They (ccp) just missplaced the 7th turret so that the 7th mount stays visible empty if fully fittet. This is just lazyness on ccp's part, not a "omg 8th turret soon" conspiracy.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.28 08:27:00 - [26] Just how is The Brown Fleet meant to strike fear into its enemies? This lack of gold is nothing but another Amarr nerf! MOAR GOLD! Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Kurogauna	Posted - 2007.11.28 09:40:00 - [27] It could be worse ! It could be ... Baby blue ... But yes, some ships are ... enough said ... disgusted Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.28 09:54:00 - [28] Hey, the empire doesn't have that much gold to spare anymore. With the EMP-eror gone, and no new EMPress on the way, we just can't spare so much resources on our "fleet". And the old ships are just so worn out. Quite fits the story if you ask me. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Disco Flint Caldari Disco Corp.	Posted - 2007.11.28 09:56:00 - [29] They're indeed brownish, not the proud gold anymore... and jeebus, what happened to the Absolution? o.O
Kransthow AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.28 10:05:00 - [30] The khaki imperial fleet At least its not baby blue

TCP	Posted - 2007.11.28 10:29:00 - [31] And the Viator is now a dull brown and has lost the headlights how can they do that to that lovely shiny green finish? And orange and brown mining vessels yuk! it's pretty boring looking at them at the best of times, at least make mining ships a little more pleasent/easier on the eye. And boy I didn't think the Raven could get uglier! The Retribution! I love it totally OOT, how an Amarr ship should be. Unlike the tatood Anathema that is just silly from what was a cool black finish. But overall I love the new look, just needs some tweaking on some ship models.
Mr Reeth Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.11.28 10:33:00 - [32] So... extra plates... extra windows... odd colors... what's the point? They don't really look better. They don't function better. I would rather CCP have spent the time unnerfing Amarr, or just getting rid of Amarr and giving us a respec.
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys Monkey Religion	Posted - 2007.11.28 11:40:00 - [33] They look ugly, removing one of the last advantages we had. I don't think anyone complained about the golden hulls before, why change it then? ---------------- Originally by: "Cyberus" cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
Lola Mushroom	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:40:00 - [34] Edited by: Lola Mushroom on 28/11/2007 13:41:10 Originally by: Mr Reeth I would rather CCP have spent the time unnerfing Amarr, or just getting rid of Amarr and giving us a respec. People could also state you could spend your time rather skilling amarr and learning to fly them properly than whining about them, cause they are some seriously nice ships. Except maybe the recons, they got hit too hard. On the golden color, the new color lacks shineyness, the old colour was far to comic-gold-like, something in between would be perfect.
Missy X	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:53:00 - [35] Has anyone seen the Prorator yet? Is it still awesome?
Dammar Amarr Ephorate	Posted - 2007.11.28 14:37:00 - [36] ...........ot
adriaans Amarr Advanced Capital Ship Designs	Posted - 2007.11.28 16:14:00 - [37] /signed and more SHINY red! (i do love the green on the zealot btw ) -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr! (Or make Amarr the only race able to deal EM damage from turrets).
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 16:36:00 - [38] Originally by: Mr Reeth So... extra plates... extra windows... odd colors... what's the point? They don't really look better. They don't function better. I would rather CCP have spent the time unnerfing Amarr, or just getting rid of Amarr and giving us a respec. No, pretty much everything about them is fine and good except the ship color.
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys Monkey Religion	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:25:00 - [39] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Mr Reeth So... extra plates... extra windows... odd colors... what's the point? They don't really look better. They don't function better. I would rather CCP have spent the time unnerfing Amarr, or just getting rid of Amarr and giving us a respec. No, pretty much everything about them is fine and good except the ship color. Agreed. ---------------- Originally by: "Cyberus" cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
Yakov Draken Minmatar Tides Of War	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:33:00 - [40] Brown? Brown? Somebody just shat on the Amarr. Give the slavers back their gold - it suits their pretensions.

Voshj	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:45:00 - [41] Please make the Amarr pretty and shiny gold again _ Its one of the defining characteristics of the faction, and as a female player I am unfortunately dies drawn to the shiny.
John Quicksilver Caldari The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:09:00 - [42] Golden not brown plz. Do not like flying 'crap' ships
Rawr Cristina Caldari Cult of Rawr	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:18:00 - [43] Some of the new ships seem to have lost their flair with the new models Abso, Brutix, Raven and some other ships now look very monotonic colour-wise. -----
Kurogauna	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:42:00 - [44] Who is the artist director in eve ? He is a living failure... - Real men tank hull.
Vengarioth Skullshanks Minmatar Victims of Confusion Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.12.01 13:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Kurogauna Who is the artist director in eve ? He is a living failure... Yeah sure .... STFU muppet ---
Jonny JoJo Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.12.01 13:39:00 - [46] Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 01/12/2007 13:45:15 Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 01/12/2007 13:39:35 Yeah, the reason why Amarr ships are a bit more brown is because the Artist relised that Amarr ships should follow their in-game competitiveness, and therefore the Artist worked from this model / CCP fix for Amarr is in EVE Trinity - The Trinity of training either Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar!
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.12.01 13:46:00 - [47] Originally by: Dammar ...........ot What's that? >>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
Tyr Vaantau Amarr Peregrin Avionics	Posted - 2007.12.01 14:02:00 - [48] Anyone who says the Amarr look rubbish are either out of their mind or have no proper sense of style whatsoever. Yeah, I know, someone's going to come along and say "it's personal perspective you evil troll!". No. There is a difference between saying something "looks rubbish/bad/like poo" and "I don't like it". SOmething can look good or bad in terms of quality, whether you like it is up to you - but it changes nothing in terms of quality. Also, there isn't a single "brown" Amarrian ship - and certainly not **** coloured ones either. The default is more like a beige/cream. Saying that they are brown is a complete overexaggeration of the truth. Secondly, they look good as they are. They look BETTER than the old ones. The quality is higher - the style is better! And in fact, plastering the Amarrian ships in pure gold WAS done - if you look at WIP Trinity screenshots - and I can tell you, it doesn't look as good as what they do now, trust me. ------
Seteshi Amarr Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.02 04:03:00 - [49] I like the new look of the Amarrian ships alot myself. The old gold was neat, but realistically didn't make too much sense, at least at the scale we saw it. The Amarr Empire is huge, and old. They have countless ships, some of which have been in service for what, centuries? These are old, reliable warhorses that have seen action. On top of this, the vastness of the Empire (and the huge number of ships it would need to produce to police and protect it) means that the ships are not going to be elaborately decorated, especially not gilded bow to stern. The new look screams "utilitarian" while at the same time is stylish enough to hint that there is something more to them than simple efficiency. I think its a good compromise.
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.02 04:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Dammar ...........ot i want this ship right now and i want it to be a gunboat instead of some pansy missile spammer khanid blue/black hull + 8x railguns or 8x blasters or 8x blue (gamma) lasers = everyone stops playing due to pants-creaming, i win. __________________________________

Lock out Bald Industrial Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.02 04:39:00 - [51] Originally by: Dammar ...........ot ... ... I want. Now.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.12.02 04:47:00 - [52] Originally by: Dammar ...........ot One, prz, with extra missiles and pepperoni. I suppose since CCP nerfed my gold chrome fleet, I'll have to switch over to a black fleet. Khanid ships possess too much awesome to be subject to visual nerfs.
Missy X	Posted - 2007.12.02 04:58:00 - [53] Edited by: Missy X on 02/12/2007 05:00:38 Since it came straight after my post I'm assuming that the ship in question is the new Prorator (which means no guns and pepperoni fo the pew-pew brigade). If so I'm glad that the Prorator is the sexiest ship in the game. But even if the Prorator looks the same as it always did, it's still better looking than just about every other ship out there. Sexy transport ships is the whole reason why I became a hauler. Even the Minmatar ones look good.
Luigi Thirty Caldari 19th Star Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.02 05:00:00 - [54] Well, when I think of Amarr ships, I think of the color brown. ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:((((
Baleur Miners In Barges Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.12.02 06:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Tyr Vaantau Anyone who says the Amarr look rubbish are either out of their mind or have no proper sense of style whatsoever. Yeah, I know, someone's going to come along and say "it's personal perspective you evil troll!". No. There is a difference between saying something "looks rubbish/bad/like poo" and "I don't like it". SOmething can look good or bad in terms of quality, whether you like it is up to you - but it changes nothing in terms of quality. Also, there isn't a single "brown" Amarrian ship - and certainly not **** coloured ones either. The default is more like a beige/cream. Saying that they are brown is a complete overexaggeration of the truth. Secondly, they look good as they are. They look BETTER than the old ones. The quality is higher - the style is better! And in fact, plastering the Amarrian ships in pure gold WAS done - if you look at WIP Trinity screenshots - and I can tell you, it doesn't look as good as what they do now, trust me. Finally someone with a sense of style and art. Those whiney kids make me so sick.. Every damn ship looks tons better than before, YES even the gallente ships. Because they are not pink, its the reflection, idiots. As for the amarr ships, i dont see how they could possibly look better. If you are so damn desperate for shiny omg gloow, just put on Bloom ffs!! ------------------------- This post represents my entire alliance views and opinions. Not.. ;(
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2007.12.02 08:29:00 - [56] seriously come on guys, amarr has some of the coolest looking ships in the game, i think the whole "we don't have cap to fit a proper tank and power our turrets" has undoubtedly gone to your heads. and it's true that you guys need the cap boost thingie.. but this whole rant.. is not full of win. the whole spectrum of ships of all races have been changed and imo they all look great, they just don't look the way they used to look, but by all means if u want things to just stay exactly the same, then just run the old version of the graphics. no harm no foul. the ships you got now look amazing, and u'll get balanced with the fitting thing if it fits with the overall balance sooner or later, which it just might. but go out and enjoy your ships, especially when trinity launches the 5th, well actually the 6th to be entirely accurate, dt and all that. and quit this nonsense. you probably haven't even been out of the system you got moveme'd to in trinity on sisi yet, to see the variations either in different systems. seriously, you'll appreciate it.
Pitt Bull Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.02 09:08:00 - [57] Originally by: Goumindong E.G. Old Geddon, Proper Color, or close enough to it New Geddon, Brown, Not Gold Old one looks like a **** stain. New one looks... better.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.02 20:58:00 - [58] agreed with goum the bestower is not the only ship that looks worse in trinity just because they are armoured does not mean that amarr don't install bright and shiny plates on top of that armour ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem


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