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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2182
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Posted - 2012.02.04 17:04:00 -
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Dimitri Jackal wrote: Ok, I ran the test - you CANNOT BOARD A SHIP if you have GCC. Damn.
unless this has been recently changed this is wrong |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2182
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Posted - 2012.02.04 17:05:00 -
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you can't board your own ships: you can board ones 'owned' by someone else
so, say, the eight thrashers your orca just ejected are fair game |

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2778
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Posted - 2012.02.04 17:38:00 -
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why would you eject thrashers? I can't see agricultural equipment being much use in space. Nuclear bombs, on the other hand, would fare a lot better
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2182
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Posted - 2012.02.04 17:51:00 -
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because a thrasher is basically a podseeking missile and 0wns for podding someone when you have a gcc |

GreasyCarl Semah
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.02.06 17:14:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:GreasyCarl Semah wrote:Am I the only one that finds it ironic that people criticize miners for doing something that makes little isk by engaging in an activity, IE ganking miners, that makes even less ISK per hour than the miners do? did you seriously just claim that isk/hour is what matters in ganking this is why we murder you
I have never mined a single m3 of ore. Why would I when I can make billions by logging in for minutes a day? Same goes for ganking, what a total waste of time unless you have a tiny little stump for manhood between your legs. I am terribly amused how anyone who dares to point out the ******** logic employed in this thread has to be a miner. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1468
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Posted - 2012.02.06 17:20:00 -
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Confirming that people that gank do so exclusively and certainly don't do it because this is a videogame and they find it entertaining. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

GreasyCarl Semah
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.02.06 17:39:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Confirming that people that gank do so exclusively and certainly don't do it because this is a videogame and they find it entertaining.
Oh I see, now we have arrived at "it is just a game" since someone pointed out the absurd logic. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1468
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Posted - 2012.02.06 17:42:00 -
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The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.
If you enjoy mining then more power to you. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Count Spank
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.02.06 19:19:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Confirming that people that gank do so exclusively and certainly don't do it because this is a videogame and they find it entertaining.
Yes. They do lady spank,
Please do some more research before talk this nonsense |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2012.02.07 00:46:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.
If you enjoy mining then more power to you.
However, by stating that you are deliberatley excluding certain professions as viable and so confirming the undervalued position of mining.
Maybe all miners should sue CCP for failed representation of how people are "supposed" to play the game?
This is in fact the very essence of your so called logical argument, the brokerage of fun, in that some fun has more value than others. Maybe then those that choose to be miners should get a reduced subscription rate as a result? And suicide gankers should have a higher rate accordingly? Not that it will stop the free plexing per afternoon, oh, until there are no more miners left to farm in this way?
See, I can also manipulate logic to the absurb. 
Anyway, I'm a paying EvE player who won't be prescribed to in this way and will fight for equality in the fun stock market. And CCP have the opportunity for accomodating numerous interests in this game, not just suicide gankers. Which funnily enough helps their buisness model.
The most stupidest point about your argument is that by reducing the industrials capabilites to earn, provides less targets for the Suicide ganker, so using a logical argument, you are removing the amount of pinatas available to you by being so over protective of your own little patch of EvE. |

GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.02.07 04:44:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.
If you enjoy mining then more power to you.
This is all well and good except I didn't make the case that ganking is profitable or a wise use of time, the simpletons in this thread were the ones making a pathetic attempt at that. Complain to them if you don't like my post.
As for mining, it is a complete waste of my talent, I made more in the last two days in Jita than a miner can make in a month. Although being a right and proper stock jobber, I'd be happy to buy their ore and ship it wherever my clients like for a handsome profit. |

TetraEtc
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
0
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Posted - 2012.02.07 08:52:00 -
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I really should learn how to trade... www.tetraetc.com-á
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Check it out womens. |

Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
158
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Posted - 2012.02.07 12:42:00 -
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GreasyCarl Semah wrote:Lady Spank wrote:The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.
If you enjoy mining then more power to you. This is all well and good except I didn't make the case that ganking is profitable or a wise use of time, the simpletons in this thread were the ones making a pathetic attempt at that. Complain to them if you don't like my post. As for mining, it is a complete waste of my talent, I made more in the last two days in Jita than a miner can make in a month. Although being a right and proper stock jobber, I'd be happy to buy their ore and ship it wherever my clients like for a handsome profit.
Yeah, so what? Making ISK via trade is dead easy. Personally, I think there needs to be a big increase in the transaction Tax - from 0.5% up to at least 10-15%. The question is, when you are sitting on hundreds of billions - what do you do with it, other than play for free via PLEX? Yeah, I could personally gank at a loss without any trouble. I even use that ISK to pay other TEARS members a 75M bounty - every time they kill a Mackinaw that hasn't paid tribute.
The point I was trying to make is you DONT have to gank at a loss. You can earn ISK doing it, and that makes the game of killing Exhumers affordable to FAR more players. And I want to see the maximum amount of participation from others as well....
I also noticed a tweet from CCP: apparently TEARS Alliance has killed the most hi-sec Exhumers in January with 169 down, with Smodab's crew posting in at 130 something. We hope to improve on that this month.
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.02.07 14:20:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Yeah, so what? Making ISK via trade is dead easy. Personally, I think there needs to be a big increase in the transaction Tax - from 0.5% up to at least 10-15%.
Personally, once WiS is up and running (no, walking in a closet-sized room doesn't count as WiS), I would love to shoot the players that are docked in station. Especially if I have to go all Splinter Cell on their ass. |

GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:14:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:
Yeah, so what? Making ISK via trade is dead easy. Personally, I think there needs to be a big increase in the transaction Tax - from 0.5% up to at least 10-15%. The question is, when you are sitting on hundreds of billions - what do you do with it, other than play for free via PLEX? Yeah, I could personally gank at a loss without any trouble. I even use that ISK to pay other TEARS members a 75M bounty - every time they kill a Mackinaw that hasn't paid tribute.
The point I was trying to make is you DONT have to gank at a loss. You can earn ISK doing it, and that makes the game of killing Exhumers affordable to FAR more players. And I want to see the maximum amount of participation from others as well....
I also noticed a tweet from CCP: apparently TEARS Alliance has killed the most hi-sec Exhumers in January with 169 down, with Smodab's crew posting in at 130 something. We hope to improve on that this month.
And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1486
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:40:00 -
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Hi,
I'm going to make a stupid off topic comment in this thread because im a massively sandy vag. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Spady Lank
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:13:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Hi,
I'm going to make a stupid off topic comment in this thread because im a massively sandy vag.
please don't again you are destroying the real purpose of the forums.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
158
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:25:00 -
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GreasyCarl Semah wrote: And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.
So, I am posting about how to gank miners, in a thread about how to gank miners.
You are posting off-topic about how space-rich you are, for what reason, I fail to grasp.
And I'm the one waving the e-peen?
Tard. |

Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
35
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:52:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:GreasyCarl Semah wrote: And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.
So, I am posting about how to gank miners, in a thread about how to gank miners. You are posting off-topic about how space-rich you are, for what reason, I fail to grasp. And I'm the one waving the e-peen? Tard.
He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect. |

GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.02.07 23:30:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:GreasyCarl Semah wrote: And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.
So, I am posting about how to gank miners, in a thread about how to gank miners. You are posting off-topic about how space-rich you are, for what reason, I fail to grasp. And I'm the one waving the e-peen? Tard.
I'm guessing that you fail to grasp quite a bit, sir. If you would have actually read the posts you would have seen that one of your little friends insisted that I must be a miner because I had the audacity to point out the flawed logic in this thread. Posts like that are painful to some on this board, just judging by the responses. That brought about my comment, which was why would I mine when I am already filthy space rich? Why would I soil myself in the fields with the peasantry griefer trash?
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GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.02.07 23:35:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect.
I apologize that you feel intimidated by someone who posts above the third grade level. With that in mind, I have a four year old here, I asked him to tell me what I should call you in response to your assertion that I am a "close minded moron".
He said you are a "stinky pants doo doo head". I hope that is on your level and we can have further dialogue.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
158
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Posted - 2012.02.08 00:08:00 -
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So, if you aren't a miner and you aren't a ganker, why are you even posting here? 
Its not 'how much' ISK you make - its HOW its made.
Some people like instapopping Hulks and Macks, and pulling ISK from their smoking wreckage - then selling those same miners brand new Hulks and Macks - then tracking and popping them again until they quit EVE.
Others like sitting in Jita and playing 0.01 ISK games all day long with the market bots.
Earning 120-150B+ via trade isn't particularly hard, or even worth bragging about. I know, because I've done it. It literally requires the brainpower of a chimp - so congrats. You are on par with a lower primate.
And ganking Exhumers doesn't require profit - only to generate tears and rage-quits. But earning some extra ISK in the bargain sure as hell doesn't hurt. |

Aggressive Nutmeg
111
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Posted - 2012.02.08 06:23:00 -
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GreasyCarl Semah wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect. I apologize that you feel intimidated by someone who posts above the third grade level. With that in mind, I have a four year old here, I asked him to tell me what I should call you in response to your assertion that I am a "close minded moron". He said you are a "stinky pants doo doo head". I hope that is on your level and we can have further dialogue. While you're busy exposing your child to the juvenile aspects of Eve, why don't you also teach him some decent swear words?  Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |

Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
35
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Posted - 2012.02.08 06:41:00 -
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GreasyCarl Semah wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect. I apologize that you feel intimidated by someone who posts above the third grade level. With that in mind, I have a four year old here, I asked him to tell me what I should call you in response to your assertion that I am a "close minded moron". He said you are a "stinky pants doo doo head". I hope that is on your level and we can have further dialogue.
Well, you understood that exactly like one would expect of someone with your condition.
Let me break it down for you. Notice that I said "convinced" and not just "of superior intellect". Convinced, for no other reason but that it's you and it's simply impossible for YOU not be awesome. I believe there is even a professional term for it... 
Also, nice discussions you have with your four year old 
In the end your posts are irrelevant to this thread. What does your alleged trading expertise have to do with ganking hulks? I'm sure you have a legitimate reason why we must know!  |

eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:14:00 -
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T1 fitted Alpha cane with insurance
job done |

Beggs
Gallente Shipyards
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:09:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:So, if you aren't a miner and you aren't a ganker, why are you even posting here?  Its not 'how much' ISK you make - its HOW its made. Some people like instapopping Hulks and Macks, and pulling ISK from their smoking wreckage - then selling those same miners brand new Hulks and Macks - then tracking and popping them again until they quit EVE. Others like sitting in Jita and playing 0.01 ISK games all day long with the market bots. Earning 120-150B+ via trade isn't particularly hard, or even worth bragging about. I know, because I've done it. It literally requires the brainpower of a chimp - so congrats. You are on par with a lower primate. And ganking Exhumers doesn't require profit - only to generate tears and rage-quits. But earning some extra ISK in the bargain sure as hell doesn't hurt.
"tracking and popping them again until they quit EVE"
Are you a sociopath in real life or is giving people a hard time in eve enough for you?
Beggs |

Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:18:00 -
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ganking miners may not be overly challenging but it sure as hell is a lot more thought and skill intensive than trying to gank a rock |

Alxea
The Army of The Ori
56
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Posted - 2012.02.09 03:20:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Hulks are a little tougher, but killing 3 per Tornado is not particularly difficult, especially if you know what their tank looks like.
This is UTTER BS. Show API verified kilmail or it's not real.......................... Oh, and YOU need better support after ganking my Mack last year and I was able to loot and salvage MY OWN MACK with Orca as they were way too slow or something.  I came out 5 Mill on the POSITIVE side after Insurance. BTW, the ONLY way you got me was hitting me while I was fighting rats and distracted. "Let's kill...even obvious Non-bots". Boy, you really bent over something that happened a long-ass time ago. a) not so difficult to loot your own Mack when the Orca is sitting right there. b) I recovered my own Tempest wreck, you don't have to lie about it again to make yourself feel better. c) coming out positive? nice try, nobody is going to believe that. Macks are expensive and have Retriever insurance. But thats all ancient history, back in the sucky, one kill at a time, insured-Tempest era. Oh, but if you don't think a Tornado can't wrack up multiple kills, you are an idiot.Buck Futz for month of January: http://y0ink.us/killboard/?a=home&y=2012&m=1Thats nearly 40 Billion in damage in about a month of on and off ganking. Only a few Typhoon SB and dessie kills mixed in, the vast majority are Tornado kills, generally in 0.7, and generally at a rate of between 2 and 3 Exhumers per Tornado. (I've gotten better as I've improved my tactics - also, Gallente ice belts have tanked Exhumers due to the recent Goon interdiction - I'm sure I could post an even better ratio in Caldari space. DAAAMMMMMN.......look at how stupid you are now, Krixtal Icefluxor. You are telling the true. I have seen it myself. It is quite impressive. Something I may enjoy doing as well like I use to do in the past a lot.
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Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
116
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Posted - 2012.02.09 03:26:00 -
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http://pwwn.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11450037 Look for the ones with loltastic tanks and its pretty easy, I almost had enough time to get this guys pod. |

Alxea
The Army of The Ori
56
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Posted - 2012.02.09 03:35:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:ganking miners may not be overly challenging but it sure as hell is a lot more thought and skill intensive than trying to gank a rock The whole reason to do it is several reasons. They are easy, people in highsec think they are safe, some people don't have a lot of time to roam for several hours to get some kills in 0.0, and most of the time it is just blobs online. The tears you get from ganking a miner can be better then most reactions. I have college so I can not be bothered to put several hours into a game in a fleet or to find somebody that doesn't want to die. Surprise kills are sometimes all we have time for.
Many times I have pirated, done 0.0, flown in gangs, gotten solo kills vs fleets. Sometimes you get tired of doing the same thing over again. Ever since the implants can now be seen in km's I have enjoyed that. Doesn't make me any more less skilled a few months ago when I use to solo people. Possibly a little more rusty at it. It just is not as fun anymore and I got tired of waiting all day just to find decent fights. Just because I have a page or 2 of just pods or somebody with several pages of exumer kills doesn't make them bad pilots. The point really is, a kill is a kill. If your good at it why stop if you don't like what they do?
Everybody is just objective because they don't like how somebody gets a kill. There is no wrong way in this game. Good luck stopping those sort of people who are above the law. I do it all, however and whenever I wish to play the game. Nobody tells me how to play a game to have fun. I just do what I feel like doing at the time and soon that will change too. |
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